This is my trip report of my three week in Southern Africa (South Africa, Namibia, Zambia and Botswana) trip back in late October. I was going to write this as soon as I got back but never got around to doing it until now. Hopefully, this report will be of use for those playas and macks who want to get their Safari game on.

This is the longest flight I ever taken. A direct flight from JFK to Johannesburg is about a 16 hours long and it would set you back anywhere from $1,000 to 1,300 bucks. Cape Town is another two hour flight from JNB airport. My first impression of the place was that it was very clean, safe and very modern. I stayed in this Hostel called "Long Street Backpackers" on Long St. Long St is basically one of their main bar drag. Night life was ok, my boy and I hit up a couple of bars close to the hostel. The local guys were not aggressive at all but the quality of girls were not up to standards. I chatted up a couple of chicks from Norway but nothing came out of it. I did not even bothered talking to any of the Afrikaans women because they were not that good looking and most of them looked just like ironing boards plus they were not friendly at all. It was cold and raining most of the time I was there so I spent some time chilling at the local malls. Again a lot of mediocre looking Black and White women everywhere. I did not even tried to day game since so many of those chicks looked so unapproachable. I was starting to get a little demoralized but fuck it, the show most go on.

Four days after arrival I took a flight to Whalbys Bay, Namibia en route to Swakomond. For those of you not familiar with Namibia, this country used to be a German colony and then came under South African rule. So, a lot of the racial nonsense that went on in South Africa went on inhere as well. I already wrote on another thread my little experience with swakomond so I wont repeat myself. After I ran away from that place I went to the capital, Windoek. Windoek is very similar looking to Cape Town but the weather was nicer. however, I could not help but wonder about safety. All homes were heavily fortified and everyone had electrical fence. Also, everything, I mean everything closed at 6pm which means night life was pretty much non existent. on the positive note, this city had a abnormal proportion of beautiful black women as compared to other places i have been to. These girls were very pretty, beautiful complexion, flat stomach, nice firm asses and C cups tits. However, at least to me these chicks were not easy. I tried everything in my toolbox to get with some of these Nubian princesses but nothing worked. I met local and he told me the chicks play a lot of games so the only thing that works is persistence until you wear them down.

After a 20 hours bus ride I arrived in Livingstone, Zambia which is the border town that borders the Victora falls and Zimbabwe. This is what most people think off when they think of an African city. Dusty, dirty, livestock roaming around and shit everywhere. However, this is the place where I had the most fun. The local population was warm and inviting. I stayed at Jollyboys hostel. Its by far one of the betters hostel I stayed in. There's a plethora of shit to do and the weather is beautiful. The "Devils pool" was so worth it. The local women were not that good looking but there's a steady stream of fuckable friendly gringas everywhere. I ended up hooking up with a Scottish chick I met at an after party for booze cruise. First time, I ever fucked or as a matter of fact been inside a camping tent. I could have hooked up with her much prettier Swedish friend who had the tent next to her but I was too tired at that point. What sealed the deal was when I confronted her friend for attempting to cock block me thus, not respecting the rules of the game. I was spitting by best "going back to Africa" game, when this bitch kept bumping in and taking my target to the bathroom. I was like "look, why are you cock blocking me? I am trying to get to know your friend , and your making it difficult for a brotha." Embarrassed, she apologized and left. The moral of the story, like an earlier Roosh posting, don't tolerate disrespect from anyone specially cock blockers.

in sum, Africa is great in terms of tours, landscape, animals, etc. but this place is not really conducive for Gaming. So if you go there expecting a pussy buffet you are going to be disappointed. If you want fuck something other than hostel girls, you kinda have to know a local that can show you the ropes because local girls do not talk to strangers. Also, public transportation outside South Africa is horrible because the middle class is not sizable enough to support regularly schedule bus service. For example, I had to hitchhike for 7 hours from the border of Zambia to Garbone, Botswana. Lodging is another nightmare, a lot of cities only have either the luxurious lodges that charge $200 a night or rooms in Townships Aka "the Hood" for $5 with no working bathrooms. Then there is the elephant in the room, some of these places up 40% of the adult population has the monster, so raw dog action is a big no no, a triple no if you are uncut. The best advice I can give is to join a travel group. They are basically "land Cruises," you travel with a group of 10-15 in a converted truck and camp on different point of interest for about a month. This takes care of your lodging, food and park fees. Also, most of the groups had 1 or 2 guys the rest of the people in the group were young women. At every point of interest there are usually 4 or more groups that converge and they throw parties and get shit faced. I can only imagined the amount of debauchery that goes on. The local drivers/tour guides of these group were cleaning out, I used to see them making out with two or three of these whores at the time.. I hope the sucker who marries one of these chicks back in Europe gets her tested before running up in her raw

Great trip report. You've now got me thinking about stuff. That HIV rate though is beyond comprehension.

What was the food and water situation like? Is it reasonably easy to get access to safe food that won't put you in the hospital?

"It was cold and raining most of the time"

I was going to ask about the cape town beaches, but it sounds like you didn't roll.

Were you in heavy off season?

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Great trip report. You've now got me thinking about stuff. That HIV rate though is beyond comprehension.

What was the food and water situation like? Is it reasonably easy to get access to safe food that won't put you in the hospital?

Thanks, I was highly impressed by their infrastructure. For example, you can flush toilet paper after taking a shit. You can't do that in a lot countries in Latin America without having a mess on the floor. I had the preconceived notion that the media propagates with regards to Africa, as a place full of people with grass skirts with flies flying everywhere and living in huts. That's only the case in very far away rural villages. Everything you expect to find in NYC, you going to find there except if you go camping deep in the bush.

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I was going to ask about the cape town beaches, but it sounds like you didn't roll.

Were you in heavy off season?

I went in October, I am guessing the summer over there must be in January and February. But from what I heard the water is only warm on the Indian Ocean side of the country. The Atlantic side gets currents from Antarctica so the water is cold year round. Also, I heard the beaches of Monzanbique matches everything the beaches in the Caribbean and the Pacific have to offer.

Funny report.

Sometimes I wonder about the white woman's fascination with Africa. Maybe a subconscious desire for the black snake, I don't know.

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The moral of the story, like an earlier Roosh posting, don't tolerate disrespect from anyone specially cock blockers.

I'm getting feedback from guys that are calling out cockblocking. The beginning of the end, perhaps.

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This is the longest flight I ever taken. A direct flight from JFK to Johannesburg is about a 16 hours long and it would set you back anywhere from $1,000 to 1,300 bucks. Cape Town is another two hour flight from JNB airport. My first impression of the place was that it was very clean, safe and very modern. I stayed in this Hostel called "Long Street Backpackers" on Long St. Long St is basically one of their main bar drag. Night life was ok, my boy and I hit up a couple of bars close to the hostel. The local guys were not aggressive at all but the quality of girls were not up to standards. I chatted up a couple of chicks from Norway but nothing came out of it. I did not even bothered talking to any of the Afrikaans women because they were not that good looking and most of them looked just like ironing boards plus they were not friendly at all. It was cold and raining most of the time I was there so I spent some time chilling at the local malls. Again a lot of mediocre looking Black and White women everywhere. I did not even tried to day game since so many of those chicks looked so unapproachable. I was starting to get a little demoralized but fuck it, the show most go on.

Dude, you came in October. That's kinda towards the end of the rainy season. If you're coming to Cape Town, the best time to come is in summer (middle nov. to end of feb). I would suggest mid Feb since most of the tourists are gone and the Universities start up. Lots of RAG parties my man. I kinda agree with you that the public transport is craploads of shit though.

I kinda think that you just looked in the wrong places. Cape Town is consistently voted the City with the most beautiful woman in South Africa. I should know it's my hometown. The thing with Cape Town is that it's a city with two faces. Yeah, you see all the glitzy shit on the tube but most Capetonians just don't roll like that. That shit is touristy for a reason cause it's kak expensive! To really get to see the beauty of the Cape and it's nightlife you gotta do some homework or know a local. Like for instance, did you hit up the Galaxy? It's kinda an institution in Cape Town, especially among us coloureds. Also, when you arrive tune into the local radio station Good Hope FM. They constantly advertise gigs and shit and it's mostly in english.

Most importantly, cum in summer. Winter is rainy and shit!

Later

Roosh, it has a white population of over 4 million people. Was over 7 million at one stage, although many have left for greener pastures as the country slowly erodes into a banana republic. Those whites have been there for generations, many since the middle 1600's.

White South African women are spoiled stuck up children. But they are hot, you were just looking in the wrong places. They are conservative to the extreme. Good luck approaching randomly. You gonna need it with that lot. Your best bet is in clubs and bars or maybe on the beach. Their guard is down. Rent a porsche for day game. That gets the panties wet.

Its a dangerous place though, and while parts of cape town are safe the majority of South Africa is not the kind of place you want to tour unless you have had some guidance from a local or you are with a local. As for the shock regarding infrastructure, I dont quite see why people are surprised when they go to South Africa. A large, highly educated middle and upper class ran the country for years. The highway systems in Johannesburg will rival anything you see in the first world. You can drink the water straight out the tap and its sewage systems were used as case studies around the world. Its not fuckin Zambia or Ghana folks. Its a developing country, but the infrastructure in place is better than anything you will see in South America. Hell, even parts of Western Europe.

South African cities are first world cities surrounded by 3rd world poverty in the townships. Its like Brazil in that regard. So its a poor country, but there is a lot of money there and there are a lot of educated people there. There is a lot of business being done there too. The standard of living for the middle and upper class is very high by international standards.

Dont go to SA to game women. You are wasting your time as they are conservative and defensive. The African women will be easier because they are poorer, but HIV rates are over 25% in some areas, clocking 40% in Natal.

Quote: (01-09-2010 04:19 PM)Whoremonger Wrote:  

Dont go to SA to game women. You are wasting your time as they are conservative and defensive. The African women will be easier because they are poorer, but HIV rates are over 25% in some areas, clocking 40% in Natal.

You're right about the HIV rate in South Africa, but I have to say that I really think that Africa and African women get a VERY unfair rap because of the whole HIV thing--it's this horrible stereotype that people just assume is true and applies to all of Africa, and they don't even bother to check it out to see what the deal is (note: I'm not African, I'm white and from Texas, but I like black girls so I got curious about this a while ago and did a bit of research).

For example, I heard good things about the chicks in Ghana, and of course one of the first things that came to mind was "AIDS!", but I checked with the CIA World Fact Book (my preferred country research tool--I normally like Wikipedia for most stuff, but for getting research on specific countries I prefer the CIA's WFB better because EVERY single country is organized identically with all the same information, unlike wikipedia, which makes finding the info you want SO much easier) and saw that the HIV rate for Ghana was only 1.9% (look under "People" and scroll down)--this is VERY low, relatively speaking, for Africa (it's 0.6% in the U.S., for comparison). Kenya is only about 3%, Niger is even lower at 0.8%, and Lebanon is at an astounding 0.1%, amongst the lowest in the world.

Of course, there are countries in Africa that have alarmingly high HIV rates like Swaziland (the highest in the world at 26.1%) and South Africa (#4 worldwide at 18.1%). Plus, the majority of HIV cases, regardless of country, are isolated in the rural areas, not the cities (typically).

Point is that you need to do your homework before you make any decisions. Just thought I'd throw that out there, especially for you guys who like darker ladies

You can see the CIA WFB's list of countries ordered by HIV rate from highest to lowest here if you're interested: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications...5rank.html

^I have to add that you gotta put that HIV rate into perspective. While no Don Juan, yet, I get laid pretty regularly and I'm still negative-o! The hardest hit areas infection wise are in the townships and I don't think you wanna be gaming there.

As for the white girls. English speaking ones are usually easier to game than the afrikaans ones. You should also note that race is still a big thing in SA so expect more work if you're not a white boy especially with the afrikaans ones. Other than that woman are woman and if your pimp hand is strong, well, you'll survive.

Oh, and on the crime, just use common sense and you'll be a'aight.

Cheers

I think its important to mention that a lot of the stats are based on government stats, which means that reporting on HIV is hardly accurate in the CIA factbook. HIV is a political issue in Africa and the numbers ARE cooked. AIDS related deaths are often reported as tuberculosis or pneumonia for example. HIV will affect poorer communities which is going to be predominantly black. Southern Africa has higher reported HIV rates than sub saharan, but that by no means should suggest that HIV is indeed lower. It could just be the way they are reporting on the virus. Anyone fucking around in Africa is playing with a loaded gun.

Race is an issue in SA and will always be an issue. South Africa is a melting pot, but its still a conservative country where race is an issue for the people. Thats for white and black. The people have been exposed to levels of violence and racial prejudice on both ends (both whites and blacks have suffered because of it) that there is tension as a result. That wont subside for a long time no matter how archaic some people think it may be.

I always found the Afrikaans girls much easier to talk too. They are more feminine and most are actually pretty good in bed. They believe they need to be whores in the bedroom. Its a wife's duty to keep her husband happy in that department. So they dont have many inhibitions the Afrikaans girls. They are just not easy at all and their parents tend to disapprove off relationships they have with non afrikaans men.

Its the english speaking South African white girl I have zero time for. They are stuck up, spoiled, materialistic and they dont look after themselves. You can keep that shit. They are good for a hate fuck and that is about it.

^^^You can't assume ALL AIDS figures for Africa are cooked just because the country happens to reside in Africa. AIDS rates DO vary widely across the continent. Even in places like Mali, Islam is the religion and women are kept on lockdown. In some countries they even sew women's labia closed so they won't have sex. I take it HIV is pretty low in a place like that.

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You're right about the HIV rate in South Africa, but I have to say that I really think that Africa and African women get a VERY unfair rap because of the whole HIV thing--it's this horrible stereotype that people just assume is true and applies to all of Africa, and they don't even bother to check it out to see what the deal is (note: I'm not African, I'm white and from Texas, but I like black girls so I got curious about this a while ago and did a bit of research).

Not to mention a lot of African countries inflate their HIV statistics in order to get more money from Western countries. I read an aritcle that state that HIV rates was misstated as much as 50%. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/world/20aids.html) It can be even argued that the high HIV rate makes sex even safer since people will tend to be more consistent with condom use because chances are they lost someone close to them to the disease. In the US, on the other hand, there is alot of rawdog action going on as if it was still the 1960's. It still amazes me how many girls will let you hit it raw after the first date and how almost all of them will want you to hit it raw after the third time fucking them. This is true in my case across all races and demographics. They all do it the same way. They start giving you head and then they just sit on it and start ridding it. It takes a lot of will power to get them off. To be honest, I am more worried about some bitch getting 19% of my shit for 21 years than I do from the monster. I am not a wealthy guy by any means but I am better off than a lot of Brothers in my age group.

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White South African women are spoiled stuck up children. But they are hot, you were just looking in the wrong places. They are conservative to the extreme. Good luck approaching randomly. You gonna need it with that lot. Your best bet is in clubs and bars or maybe on the beach. Their guard is down. Rent a porsche for day game. That gets the panties wet.

Perhaps I was looking at the wrong places, I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that one. Also, the weather was a little shitty so I hung out in malls alot. However, I still stand by my words, I saw lots of chicks in the mall and the overwhelming majority were just o.k.(in the 4 to 6 range) I saw very few hot women at least in comparison to the amount of talent you are going to see in a mall in Medellin, Buenos Aires, Rio and even NY. We both agree on the same thing though, Don't go to SA for the ass.

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As for the white girls. English speaking ones are usually easier to game than the afrikaans ones. You should also note that race is still a big thing in SA so expect more work if you're not a white boy especially with the afrikaans ones.

If you are not white I think is impossible to get with Afrikaan women. I did not saw interracial couples there at all. Actually I'll take that back, even during the height of slavery in the American South, there were Brothers that were balls deep into some White poon. There must be method to it. unfortunately i wasn't there too long.

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If you are not white I think is impossible to get with Afrikaan women. I did not saw interracial couples there at all. Actually I'll take that back, even during the height of slavery in the American South, there were Brothers that were balls deep into some White poon. There must be method to it. unfortunately i wasn't there too long.

Nothing is impossible. I'm coloured, from Cape Town and live in Pretoria, the heartland of afrikanerdom, and I've done it. It's a shitload of work but it is possible.

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Not to mention a lot of African countries inflate their HIV statistics in order to get more money from Western countries. I read an aritcle that state that HIV rates was misstated as much as 50%. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/world/20aids.html)

Never thought about that but it makes sense. Because with some of these HIV figures I hear, I have to wonder why these countries aren't completely vacant by now.

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In the US, on the other hand, there is alot of rawdog action going on as if it was still the 1960's. It still amazes me how many girls will let you hit it raw after the first date and how almost all of them will want you to hit it raw after the third time fucking them.

Yeah, crazy huh? What do they think? That if you have HIV, they will somehow be immune to it just because they've spent a little more time with you? One time a girl said it was okay for me to take the condom off and that she's on the pill. This was the first time we'd done it, and the 2nd date I think. What do these girls think? That because you don't have purple lesions on your body that you're clean? Needless to say, even though I banged her for about 6 months, I never went in bare. Hell no, I value my health too much.

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Actually I'll take that back, even during the height of slavery in the American South, there were Brothers that were balls deep into some White poon.

I'm sure that was extremely rare. Because if anybody found out, the dude would be hanging from a tree the next day. However white men were screwing slave women like crazy, which is why there are so many light-skin blacks in America versus Africa.

Quote: (01-11-2010 11:53 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

^^^You can't assume ALL AIDS figures for Africa are cooked just because the country happens to reside in Africa. AIDS rates DO vary widely across the continent. Even in places like Mali, Islam is the religion and women are kept on lockdown. In some countries they even sew women's labia closed so they won't have sex. I take it HIV is pretty low in a place like that.

Dude, this is not the USA. Stats are fudged in Africa constantly, and they are difficult to keep because of large migrating populations and poor infrastructure. Administration in these places is 300 years behind everyone else. No one is going to deny that there are some countries where the HIV rate is not going to be that high, but in general, HIV rates across Africa are through the roof. There are parts of South Africa where its estimated to be almost 40% for example.

As a foreigner touring through Africa in general, casual sex with the poor locals comes with a high element of risk.

Quote: (01-04-2010 03:15 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

Four days after arrival I took a flight to Whalbys Bay, Namibia en route to Swakomond. For those of you not familiar with Namibia, this country used to be a German colony and then came under South African rule. So, a lot of the racial nonsense that went on in South Africa went on inhere as well. I already wrote on another thread my little experience with swakomond so I wont repeat myself. After I ran away from that place I went to the capital, Windoek. Windoek is very similar looking to Cape Town but the weather was nicer. however, I could not help but wonder about safety. All homes were heavily fortified and everyone had electrical fence. Also, everything, I mean everything closed at 6pm which means night life was pretty much non existent. on the positive note, this city had a abnormal proportion of beautiful black women as compared to other places i have been to. These girls were very pretty, beautiful complexion, flat stomach, nice firm asses and C cups tits. However, at least to me these chicks were not easy. I tried everything in my toolbox to get with some of these Nubian princesses but nothing worked. I met local and he told me the chicks play a lot of games so the only thing that works is persistence until you wear them down.

Can't believe someone for this forum was in my country (Namibia), Firstly I'm a white African born & raised. Sorry about your time in Swakopmund, it is actually a great place, the treatment you received was what I would call German hospitality, not all Germans are like that but most of them, their just full of shit, walking like they own the fucking town. Walvis bay & Swakopmund are places you have to visit in our summer time (November, December & January) that's when thousands of people including South Africans flock to our beaches.
Now Windhoek, yes at six most of the places close down. Now our night life, If I knew you were here I would have given you something to remember. Party time here is usually from Wednesday to Sunday. Here our night life starts at 10pm - 12am and ends when you want it to. We usually start off at home chilling with a barbacue (or braai as we call it) or hanging out parking lots or bars. From there we move onto the clubs or lounges. Most of the weekends we have Street Drags (we love Japanese cars) or Speed & Sound competitions. Or barbacue at the Dam(Lake). One of the best places to chill out is outside our hottest club in town "La Dee Da's". Where you'll see a whole street full of cars and people. Its the only place I've heard where you can chill outside a club and police don't bother you.
We're one of the safest countries in Africa, we have city police, who are always driving around. If not there's neighbourhood watch.
Women, you'll find any type you want, white, black, brown and even Chinese. We have beautiful women here all you have to do is go to the right places to find them. There's a town out side Windhoek called Rehoboth, it a small town but its hard to believe the quality of women you'll find there. If you looking for a African Queen then the North of the country is where you have to go. In the south of the country there are a mix of German & African women, some look like Bollywood stars. Might sound weird for a country in African, the world has a fucked up view of Africa, let me put it straight now.... WE MODERNIZED!!!, we have Wi-Fi, blu-ray, ps3, Wii even Shrek ever After we have everything the western world have just on a smaller scale expect Strip Clubs

One more thing if your 18, you can drink and go into any club.

Once again man in Cape Town, man there are so many other places you could have gone to.

Beautiful women in Africa is like learning a new word, once you know it you see it everywhere. Once you find one you'll usually find more.

I was a little surprised by this report because I've been to South Africa several times and it is easily one of the EASIEST places to pick up chicks. At times it's actually a bit overwhelming. I remember once I met this cute girl and she wanted to go home and smash after an hour of dancing or so and I told her I can't because I wanted to stay at the party till the end because I had a friend who was DJing. My friend who was with me was like "fuck that, I'll smash her!" Of course being smarter than me, he just went to the car, smashed the chick, sent her home and came back 20 minutes later to find me in an argument with two other chicks over which one I was going to take home. One girl was actually crying. So ridiculous. Of course being smarter than me he said "fuck that, enough talking, I'll smash the one you don't want and everyone will be happy." So we took the chicks home, he smashed one of them on the bathroom sink, I smashed the other chick in the bedroom. We sent them home and stayed up eating leftover KFC and watched the Kardashians.

Literally the next day we were at this other spot drinking shots of Jack and I met this dope white stylist chick from Capetown with all of her designer friends partying for Fashion Week. We bounced after an hour or so and when we got to her car I told her it was too early to go home just yet so we hooked up for a while and while she's about to start giving me head there's a knock on the car window. I look out and it's one of her gay designer friends. I roll down the window and he throws two condoms in the car and yells at her "girrrllll, you better make it fast, we gotta go home and get ready for the show tomorrow". I laughed and told her to just call me tomorrow so we can smash after her show. She agreed, although I could never understand why if he was in a hurry he would give me two condoms. But I digress. On the way from her car back to the club I meet this other beautiful chick with an amazing rack who is almost as drunk as I am. Almost. She said her phone battery is dead and wanted to use my phone. I told her my cell was at home (which it really was) so she would have to wait until I was ready to go home and then she could come over and use my phone. She agrees. Retard. So we get back inside keep drinking Jack and my friend has got the most ridiculous cocktail waitress totally obsessed with him. This girl was out of this world kind of hot. So we all decide to go back to the crib. On the way there this one chick starts yelling that we have to stop and go to the gas station because it's an emergency. She won't say why and my friend is pissed that we're wasting so much time but we stop and she goes inside and comes back a few minutes later with two bags of Skittles. WTF! This chick was a freak. So we get back home and I'm smashing this chick on my suitcase in the hallway (the cocktail waitress definitely deserved the bed that night) and the whole time I'm smashing this chick this freak is trying to feed me Skittles! There's always something wrong with these chicks.

Two more weeks and I'll be back for World Cup. I can't imagine the crazy shit that's going down this time. Gooooooooooaaaallll.

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I was a little surprised by this report because I've been to South Africa several times and it is easily one of the EASIEST places to pick up chicks. At times it's actually a bit overwhelming. I remember once I met this cute girl and she wanted to go home and smash after an hour of dancing or so and I told her I can't because I wanted to stay at the party till the end because I had a friend who was DJing. My friend who was with me was like "fuck that, I'll smash her!" Of course being smarter than me, he just went to the car, smashed the chick, sent her home and came back 20 minutes later to find me in an argument with two other chicks over which one I was going to take home. One girl was actually crying. So ridiculous. Of course being smarter than me he said "fuck that, enough talking, I'll smash the one you don't want and everyone will be happy." So we took the chicks home, he smashed one of them on the bathroom sink, I smashed the other chick in the bedroom. We sent them home and stayed up eating leftover KFC and watched the Kardashians.

Literally the next day we were at this other spot drinking shots of Jack and I met this dope white stylist chick from Capetown with all of her designer friends partying for Fashion Week. We bounced after an hour or so and when we got to her car I told her it was too early to go home just yet so we hooked up for a while and while she's about to start giving me head there's a knock on the car window. I look out and it's one of her gay designer friends. I roll down the window and he throws two condoms in the car and yells at her "girrrllll, you better make it fast, we gotta go home and get ready for the show tomorrow". I laughed and told her to just call me tomorrow so we can smash after her show. She agreed, although I could never understand why if he was in a hurry he would give me two condoms. But I digress. On the way from her car back to the club I meet this other beautiful chick with an amazing rack who is almost as drunk as I am. Almost. She said her phone battery is dead and wanted to use my phone. I told her my cell was at home (which it really was) so she would have to wait until I was ready to go home and then she could come over and use my phone. She agrees. Retard. So we get back inside keep drinking Jack and my friend has got the most ridiculous cocktail waitress totally obsessed with him. This girl was out of this world kind of hot. So we all decide to go back to the crib. On the way there this one chick starts yelling that we have to stop and go to the gas station because it's an emergency. She won't say why and my friend is pissed that we're wasting so much time but we stop and she goes inside and comes back a few minutes later with two bags of Skittles. WTF! This chick was a freak. So we get back home and I'm smashing this chick on my suitcase in the hallway (the cocktail waitress definitely deserved the bed that night) and the whole time I'm smashing this chick this freak is trying to feed me Skittles! There's always something wrong with these chicks.

Two more weeks and I'll be back for World Cup. I can't imagine the crazy shit that's going down this time. Gooooooooooaaaallll.

Wow, This was the complete opposite of my experience in South Africa. I found people to be very cold and impersonal (Blacks and Whites) Also, they had annoying habits like they wouldn't make eye contact when being spoken to and service everywhere sucked. I know it wasn't just in my head because my boy who is lighter skinned and I consider him way better looking(no homo!!) did not get any love either. White people did not acknowledge my presence, I might as well had been invisible. I wasn't in SA for long maybe that makes a difference. I don't doubt your story, but you should do a more a detailed data sheet about it(how longs you stayed and hotels, you know anybody there before hand, which clubs you went to, strategies, etc...). I would appreciate the info...


@overdose, Thanks for the tips. You and Dakota make me want to go back and try again. The difference between Windhoek and Swakopmund was literally night and day. Any tips on Namibian women? Like I said before the dark skinned ones can really compete with Brazilians on the looks department. They didn't seem to being open to being cold approached at all.

Cape town has some of the hottest girls in the world. But they are not easy. I have friends with good game and model looks and they don't necessarily get laid a lot. You definitly need to know a local in order to find out which spots are still good etc. The beaches are some of the best in the world and you will see smoking hot models tanning topless left, right and centre.

The problem is lots of the girls are clicky and conservative. It is also quite a small scene so whenever I go out I will usually see lots of people I know. It's easiest to bang through social circle and warm approaches.

After coming back from the Philippines where I felt like a complete 10 it's quite a change. There are lots of good looking, wealthy guys here with lots of game so competition is high.

Conclusion: If you just want to bang girls go to asia or maybe SAmerica. Cape town isn't that easy for just swooping in and out.

Quote: (01-04-2010 03:15 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

in sum, Africa is great in terms of tours, landscape, animals, etc. but Then there is the elephant in the room, some of these places up 40% of the adult population has the monster, so raw dog action is a big no no, a triple no if you are uncut.

Excuse my naivety but are you saying that the chances of catching shyt is higher if one is uncircumcised?

Bumping this because I'm looking into a Motherland trip this year. Never been to southern Africa, only east and north. How much time will I need to hit SA, Mozambique, and Namibia? Also, is Botswana worth it? What up about the trek up to Victoria Falls? I hear it actually has good infrastructure and is one of the developed African economies, though a very expensive place. What's the deal with those "groups" where you camp and move around? That sounds like it could be a lot of fun. Which companies do you arrange that with?

How are flights within the region? What's the most efficient and cost-effective way to get around? I think this is where it can get really pricey. What's crazy to me is that flying to Johannesburg from DC is cheaper than flying from Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires, yet takes twice as long. It's only 9 hour flight from the latter cities to SA. DC is 16-18 hours with a stop. It's even cheaper than flying from within African countries or Europe.

Not sure how much South Africa would offer on the game tip though my boy did say he cleaned up in Durban with Indian chicks. Like nonstop action. This is a brother from Atlanta who travels the world on the upscale tip and I've seen him operate in other places, so I take his word for it.

Quote: (01-04-2010 04:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"It was cold and raining most of the time"

I was going to ask about the cape town beaches, but it sounds like you didn't roll.

Were you in heavy off season?

I can tell you that the beaches in Cape Town are great.
Clifton 3,4 and Camps Bay especially. Lots and lots of hot white South African girls. Classy and tanned blonde girls.

Camps bay has some nice bars including Cafe Caprice.
Tiger Tiger is good for hooking up (but is further), haven't been to much more besides Caprice, Club 31 and some karaokebar. Intel about Tigertiger is from my brother who lived there a while.
Especially in the student cities (Pretoria, Stellenbosch), keep in mind that the rugby players kind of feel that they own the bars and everything.
Two important groups of guys are rugbyplayers and surfers.

Quote: (01-20-2014 06:17 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Bumping this because I'm looking into a Motherland trip this year. Never been to southern Africa, only east and north. How much time will I need to hit SA, Mozambique, and Namibia? Also, is Botswana worth it? What up about the trek up to Victoria Falls? I hear it actually has good infrastructure and is one of the developed African economies, though a very expensive place. What's the deal with those "groups" where you camp and move around? That sounds like it could be a lot of fun. Which companies do you arrange that with?

How are flights within the region? What's the most efficient and cost-effective way to get around? I think this is where it can get really pricey. What's crazy to me is that flying to Johannesburg from DC is cheaper than flying from Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires, yet takes twice as long. It's only 9 hour flight from the latter cities to SA. DC is 16-18 hours with a stop. It's even cheaper than flying from within African countries or Europe.

Not sure how much South Africa would offer on the game tip though my boy did say he cleaned up in Durban with Indian chicks. Like nonstop action. This is a brother from Atlanta who travels the world on the upscale tip and I've seen him operate in other places, so I take his word for it.

You should go. Period. Go when it is summer in South Africa which is winter time in the US. I went during their winter and the beaches were cold. Durban is always warm though and JBurg seemed okay. S. Africa is really easy to travel around. They have a nice bus system and low cost airlines. It's easier traveling there than in the US and they even have backpackers who literally go straight from the airport to their hostel then take backpacker vans all over to the next party hostel, never actually seeing any of the country.

South Africa is worth it but it's not the real Africa. It feels almost like your in Europe or the US. Botswanna is good for Chube (sp?) and Maun. The first is national park, but all African countries almost have safari type stuff. Botswana is pretty developed and rich so its not a bad option. It's a bit more pricey.

Zimbabwe is actually pretty awesome. I spent a lot of time in Vic Falls and it was fun. Tons of chicks traveling around there from all over the world. There's one really cool hostel with a bar, forget the name, but everyone ends up there. The rest of the country is pretty interesting, it actually use to be one of the richest in Africa so the infrastructure isn't really horrible and the capital, Harare, is actually pretty nice.

I wouldn't recommend those camping tours. It's all scared backpacker types who don't want to do the real Africa. You literally get bused around from place to place. The staff even set up your tents and cook you food. You don't do a damn thing on your own. You'll just be around a bunch of mostly white kids. No point really especially in southern Africa as most places aren't horrible to travel to and from. Also, those tours are pricey especially considering you are camping. If you add it up you are paying a ton of money just to be bused around.

Flights suck ass in Africa. No question, except in South Africa they have some low cost carriers. I think one flies to southern Mozambique and also Harare. I'd recommend Mozambique, nice beaches and some party towns but stick to the south. The North isn't very developed and it has the more horrible roads on Earth. You can easily microbus to Mozambique from Durban via Swaziland.

As for the Indian chicks in Durban, god damn I never saw such beasts in my life and they were pretty bitchy. Overall South Africa has some hideous chicks, whether you're talking about black, white, or Indian. It was pretty bad and there is some epic racial tension that makes America look good. The hottest chicks in southern Africa are suppose to be in Swaziland. I spent a couple days there and it looked nice. Just remember they have like a 60% HIV rate. I also saw some decent girls in Namibia but that place is backwards as fuck and racist so I would not recommend.

Overall, don't go to hit on chicks. Just go for the experience. As a bonus though, just remember that almost any backpacker or NGO chick you see is probably down for fucking. Only an adventurous chick would end up in most parts of Africa.

Nomadicdude - Fantastic post. This is exactly the context I need to really understand how to arrange the trip logistically. I was going to give you a rep point but I already did a long time ago!

It's looking like the best way to organize it is to fly low-cost within the country and Zim if I can. Then microbus it to Swazi and Mozam using Jo'burg as my base of operations.

Sounds legit. I know what you mean about the adventurous American chicks that go to Africa. A lot of them actually wind up in DC doing NGO/policy/humanitarian work. I've shagged a few of them. No stunners of course but a 6 or even a 7 sometimes can be found.

How much time do you think each place or the whole trip requires? I'd also probably dedicate a full day for checking out Kruger National Park.

Quote: (01-21-2014 01:06 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Nomadicdude - Fantastic post. This is exactly the context I need to really understand how to arrange the trip logistically. I was going to give you a rep point but I already did a long time ago!

It's looking like the best way to organize it is to fly low-cost within the country and Zim if I can. Then microbus it to Swazi and Mozam using Jo'burg as my base of operations.

Sounds legit. I know what you mean about the adventurous American chicks that go to Africa. A lot of them actually wind up in DC doing NGO/policy/humanitarian work. I've shagged a few of them. No stunners of course but a 6 or even a 7 sometimes can be found.

How much time do you think each place or the whole trip requires? I'd also probably dedicate a full day for checking out Kruger National Park.

(DISCLAIMER FOR WHAT FOLLOWS: My game is still pretty beginner. So don't take my thoughts too seriously.)

Problem is, that intercity transport is pretty decent, but once you're inside of a city you are stuck without a car. Without a car you're stuck using the pathetic inner city bus system (not designed for tourists, rather for workers coming to and for in mornings and evenings) or the ghetto minibus system (I wouldn't recommend it without a guide.) I hear Cape Town has a decent rail transport system these days, but I haven't visited in a while so I can't comment. Cape Town is too expensive for me, I'll leave it to the foreigners who find it cheap due to currency rates. Johannesburg and Pretoria are building up bus systems, but they are still rudimentary and are unlikely to get your where you need to go if you want to game.

For Kruger Park, I've not been there in a long time, but general consensus is that one day is not enough for it. The people that love Kruger Park the most are the ones that camp inside of it or stay in chalet villages. You can wake up to watch animals moving about right next to the camp site. Apparently it's quiet something. I'm not really an animal-watching person myself, so I'll let that pass.

There are lots of decent, even great-looking women in South Africa, but many chicks are genuinely scared of violence and prefer to go out in packs at night with some beta orbiter protectors. Day game works better. Car culture is a bit of cock blocker because you can't offer a chick a ride home, most of the time she's got her own car (and if not, she's likely ghetto), and having her follow you or you following her is too obvious for the average hamster. If you want to day game, stick to the universities, and the grocery stores/apartment areas near them, during school seasons (avoid July and December - these are low-season months in the university world).

If you have an apartment near a club scene, you could probably night game as well. If you rent an apartment in Hatfield in Pretoria, you can basically walk a girl over direct from the club. University towns tend to have apartments near the university, and clubs near the apartments. I was seriously considering buying an apartment in Hatfield just for the ideal logistics, but financially I decided I couldn't afford the hit (properties in Hatfield are currently way overpriced, IMO).

I hate Johanesburg with a passion. It's a dirty, grimy, traffic-clogged city with aggressive, bitchy people. That said, all the model agencies are based either in Johannesburg or Cape Town, so if you want TOP talent, that's where you got to go.

Some racial profiling (from the perspective of a white male):
- White Afrikaans girls: pleasant attitudes (outside of racism) and they tend believe in the patriarchy. They expect men to be big, brutish, and protective. Some of them occasionally date black men, at risk of ostracism. They are the most desired demographic among all men in South Africa, the holy grail of dating, and they are difficult to game as a result. It's not uncommon for me to see busted dudes - handsome rugged looking white guys with fat dumpy Afrikaner chicks. The opposite almost never happens - white beautiful Afrikaner chicks tend to always date handsome guys. The exception is the young farm girl with daddy issues, who is looking for a big tough (and ugly) middle-aged farmer to take her away to a rural farm and breed babies. Most are heavily christian, and will require some heavy artillery game to break down resistance. My game, sad to say, hardly makes a dent.
- White English-speaking girls: Western attitude, but less aggressive compared to western women when faced with patriarchy. As long as you are not too intense in your patriarchal ways, most will back down rather than confront you. Remember, women in South Africa still look to men for protection in a violent society. That said, they tend to be too feminist, and require training. They are easier to date than Afrikaner women.
- Black girls: we can divide these into ghetto chicks, middle-class, upper-class. Very materialistic and will gladly suck you dry of all your resources if you don't have a strong upper hand. Middle-class is the most pleasant in personality and hygiene, I'd stay away from ghetto chicks. I've worked in ghetto hospitals and I can say that the stuff they carry between their legs is nasty. It helps to be playfully racist, no black woman respects a white man who is not proud of being white. Just don't shove racism too far down her face and don't make it a personal attack against her.
- Indian girls: Cliquish. Very family orientated. Arranged marriages are common. Casual dating is thus a challenge. I've noticed there is a trend in Durban of white guys dating indian chicks. I've never managed to date an indian girl myself, but where I stay there aren't many to begin with. The few I've hit on tended to either give me a cold shoulder or I stupidly failed to close.
- Coloured girls: the term 'coloured' in South Africa refers to mixed race people, especially those of mixed asian-white-black ancestry. I have little experience with hitting on them because there are so few where I live, they tend to cluster around Cape Town.

Obesity is unfortunately a growing problem in South Africa, but not to the extent of the USA, looking at the statistics. Also, obesity seems to be mainly affecting the poorer, ghetto girls, which you shouldn't be gaming anyway, IMO.