Hi guys,
I thought I have taken too much advantage of this site & ROK without giving back, so here's my take on what's happening in Helsinki. I will try to be 'to the point' and concise; if you have any questions or would like me to elaborate on any particular aspects, just ask.
Culture:
When sober
People usually keep to themselves and are very individualistic. They have an acute sense of personal space and upon arrival might seem upset all the time (which is not necessarily true, but it's just they don't put up a 'im happy'/neutral face that you'd see in so many other european cities when people walk around). This is especially hilarious when they hop on a bus and there are no pair of seats free and they need to sit next to someone they don't know. The HORROR in their faces is priceless. It is also quite fun that if you ask 'how are you', they will usually be honest in their answers as in: 'Not so good lately, this and that happened...'
If you ask them for help while walking around the city, they will stop, listen and try to assist you to the best of their capacity. They are very reliable people, just quite difficult to get to know. When they are drunk (2 times a week on average I would say for people in the 18-28 age bracket), all the above falls flat.
When drunk
Women approach men, there is no social stigma with that. If you are at least average looking and well groomed you are going to get hit on from a girl at a bar/club every now and then (not saying you will like her, but you might get hit on). Don't count on it, in my experience numbers' game trumps all.
IF a chick is into you, the hurdles she is going to put in your path are not going to be very difficult to get over. Look out for the classic question of 'Where do you live' early in the interaction. Don't ask me why, but talking with a few locals they mention that the thought process in their heads is that if you live very close they get turned on by thinking you could be banging in a few minutes time.
The 'competition'
Local guys are regularly clueless. They pile up in the bars getting shitfaced and when they are borderline comatose they approach any girl and ask 'do you wanna fuck' as an opener. I have heard it works, but I have never seen it happen.
The way it usually goes down is caveman game on the dance floor, chick sends obvious IOIs to the guy overtly smiling, getting closer, etc. they start grinding and it's done. That or the guy approaches and it works out pretty much as above or he gets blown off instantly. When the guy is happy with her they will lift her up full weight in the middle of the dancefloor (no kidding). They regularly start throwing glasses of beer to the floor around 2am and get encouraged by other people doing the same (with the hugely inflated price of alcohol, might as well burn euro bills in flames)
The venues
I will focus on those venues in the center near the Kamppi mall, where pretty much everything nightlife-related goes down. For dive bars, go to Kallio (Sörnainen metro station), although I particularly don't enjoy the people there -mostly super old folk/alcoholics into metal getting shitfaced-. Maybe a couple of bars are worth it (Pacifico comes to mind), but otherwise avoid as your main venue for the night.
HYBRID BAR/DISCOS
Aussie bar (3e)
Nice and cozy for the beginning of the night, but I haven't been there frequently because it's just not big enough to have enough sets to talk to and not burn through the venue in half an hour.
Expect a nice mix of locals and foreigners.
Aussie bar club (6e)
Usual age group: 18-22 (with older people 24-32 sooner in the evening that eventually leave).
A small bar section and a bigger dancefloor than the previous venue (it's a spinoff of that one). Music is rather commercial, but I've spent quite some time in it, I dig the bar section that is not too open and has a few twists and turns.
Le bonq (10e + 3 cloak room)
Usual age group: 18-24
I really like this place, it has 3 floors in the summer with the terrace and 2 the rest of the year. 1st floor has a respectable-sized dancefloor, 2nd is a bar with some sofas. Chicks are pretty hot here.
Bakers (3e)
Probably my favorite venue in the whole city... when the night is right. Sometimes the crowd is downright horrible (I advise going there on a Saturday, Fridays are usually packed with too old of a crowd.
Cuba (10-12e)
Really good towards the summer on Wednesdays -all the chicks from business studies go there because the entrance is free for students of their faculty-. Depending on the night the music can vary a lot from salsa to hip hop or commercial.
Milliklubi (3-8e depending on the night)
Not recommended if you are black, there were some investigations/reports of them being very racist when it comes to letting black people (see http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-12...60139.html in Finnish).
This is Roosh's no.1 easiest place to get laid. It certainly is nice with several different areas, but the couple of times I've been there I didn't like the people so much. By all means, give it a try and decide for yourself
STRICTLY DISCOS:
Namu (6-12e)
During the summer it's filled with rich kids dressed like surfers from the 80s and during the year mostly packed with suited up crowd. Also has a nice set of tables for the rich crowd. Usually quite high-'class' people in there, everything there is unbelievably expensive.
Vatican (7e)
Depending on the night, you can find hot chicks here, but some nights it's a total bust. If you can't see it from the entrance, ask the bouncer or propose to check out the place and come back and pay the fee if it's good. Usually that attitude works and you save some money.
Tiger (3 to 10-15e depending on the time/day...)
For me it's the most expendable club in the whole city. Usually filled with a lot of attention-seekers and tables for vips. Funny thing is I haven't seen many hot girls there. Expect attitude.
Maxine
One floor underneath Tiger, haven't been, one time I checked out the queue and it seemed to be packed with rather older crowd (28+). Not completely sure it's a disco, could be a lounge, during the day its a restaurant.
Tivoli (8-12e)
The natural evolution from Tiger, also has tables, but chicks are generally hotter and the venue is much bigger than Tiger.
DOM
In front of Tivoli, never been.
Apollo (15e)
Avoid at all costs, mostly burnt out crowd 30+. Don't remember ever seeing more than one or two hot girls per night.
Disco vs Bar
I am a bar person myself. While I like to dance, dancefloor game here is pretty much: approach a girl and say 'hey'. If she says 'ei'/no you're pretty much done, if she gives an answer/say nothing and looks at you, ask her whatever stupid simple thing that comes to mind and start dancing with her. From then on, escalate, isolate and do your thing.
Optimal game for me: meet her by the bar, talk about something that ends up mentioning dancing, take her to the dancefloor and take it from there.
Alcohol
Drinking is an expensive vice up here. I don't drink because otherwise I would be broke and it just doesn't do it for me. I run game sober the whole night and have a bottle of something at home to invite a lucky one for an 'afterparty'. Then I take a couple of shots, but otherwise, it's just too pricey.
Overall
I would say it's a nice city, small enough you can pretty much walk around if you're changing venues or pulling back home if you live somewhere in the center. Girls are mostly OK, except that they are much more fatter than the rest of countries in Europe I have been to (UK notwithstanding). If she's wearing black it doesn't sound too promising, check for arm diameter just to be sure. If you're into blonds this is probably not a bad place to be.
Cheers,
I thought I have taken too much advantage of this site & ROK without giving back, so here's my take on what's happening in Helsinki. I will try to be 'to the point' and concise; if you have any questions or would like me to elaborate on any particular aspects, just ask.
Culture:
When sober
People usually keep to themselves and are very individualistic. They have an acute sense of personal space and upon arrival might seem upset all the time (which is not necessarily true, but it's just they don't put up a 'im happy'/neutral face that you'd see in so many other european cities when people walk around). This is especially hilarious when they hop on a bus and there are no pair of seats free and they need to sit next to someone they don't know. The HORROR in their faces is priceless. It is also quite fun that if you ask 'how are you', they will usually be honest in their answers as in: 'Not so good lately, this and that happened...'
If you ask them for help while walking around the city, they will stop, listen and try to assist you to the best of their capacity. They are very reliable people, just quite difficult to get to know. When they are drunk (2 times a week on average I would say for people in the 18-28 age bracket), all the above falls flat.
When drunk
Women approach men, there is no social stigma with that. If you are at least average looking and well groomed you are going to get hit on from a girl at a bar/club every now and then (not saying you will like her, but you might get hit on). Don't count on it, in my experience numbers' game trumps all.
IF a chick is into you, the hurdles she is going to put in your path are not going to be very difficult to get over. Look out for the classic question of 'Where do you live' early in the interaction. Don't ask me why, but talking with a few locals they mention that the thought process in their heads is that if you live very close they get turned on by thinking you could be banging in a few minutes time.
The 'competition'
Local guys are regularly clueless. They pile up in the bars getting shitfaced and when they are borderline comatose they approach any girl and ask 'do you wanna fuck' as an opener. I have heard it works, but I have never seen it happen.
The way it usually goes down is caveman game on the dance floor, chick sends obvious IOIs to the guy overtly smiling, getting closer, etc. they start grinding and it's done. That or the guy approaches and it works out pretty much as above or he gets blown off instantly. When the guy is happy with her they will lift her up full weight in the middle of the dancefloor (no kidding). They regularly start throwing glasses of beer to the floor around 2am and get encouraged by other people doing the same (with the hugely inflated price of alcohol, might as well burn euro bills in flames)
The venues
I will focus on those venues in the center near the Kamppi mall, where pretty much everything nightlife-related goes down. For dive bars, go to Kallio (Sörnainen metro station), although I particularly don't enjoy the people there -mostly super old folk/alcoholics into metal getting shitfaced-. Maybe a couple of bars are worth it (Pacifico comes to mind), but otherwise avoid as your main venue for the night.
HYBRID BAR/DISCOS
Aussie bar (3e)
Nice and cozy for the beginning of the night, but I haven't been there frequently because it's just not big enough to have enough sets to talk to and not burn through the venue in half an hour.
Expect a nice mix of locals and foreigners.
Aussie bar club (6e)
Usual age group: 18-22 (with older people 24-32 sooner in the evening that eventually leave).
A small bar section and a bigger dancefloor than the previous venue (it's a spinoff of that one). Music is rather commercial, but I've spent quite some time in it, I dig the bar section that is not too open and has a few twists and turns.
Le bonq (10e + 3 cloak room)
Usual age group: 18-24
I really like this place, it has 3 floors in the summer with the terrace and 2 the rest of the year. 1st floor has a respectable-sized dancefloor, 2nd is a bar with some sofas. Chicks are pretty hot here.
Bakers (3e)
Probably my favorite venue in the whole city... when the night is right. Sometimes the crowd is downright horrible (I advise going there on a Saturday, Fridays are usually packed with too old of a crowd.
Cuba (10-12e)
Really good towards the summer on Wednesdays -all the chicks from business studies go there because the entrance is free for students of their faculty-. Depending on the night the music can vary a lot from salsa to hip hop or commercial.
Milliklubi (3-8e depending on the night)
Not recommended if you are black, there were some investigations/reports of them being very racist when it comes to letting black people (see http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-12...60139.html in Finnish).
This is Roosh's no.1 easiest place to get laid. It certainly is nice with several different areas, but the couple of times I've been there I didn't like the people so much. By all means, give it a try and decide for yourself
STRICTLY DISCOS:
Namu (6-12e)
During the summer it's filled with rich kids dressed like surfers from the 80s and during the year mostly packed with suited up crowd. Also has a nice set of tables for the rich crowd. Usually quite high-'class' people in there, everything there is unbelievably expensive.
Vatican (7e)
Depending on the night, you can find hot chicks here, but some nights it's a total bust. If you can't see it from the entrance, ask the bouncer or propose to check out the place and come back and pay the fee if it's good. Usually that attitude works and you save some money.
Tiger (3 to 10-15e depending on the time/day...)
For me it's the most expendable club in the whole city. Usually filled with a lot of attention-seekers and tables for vips. Funny thing is I haven't seen many hot girls there. Expect attitude.
Maxine
One floor underneath Tiger, haven't been, one time I checked out the queue and it seemed to be packed with rather older crowd (28+). Not completely sure it's a disco, could be a lounge, during the day its a restaurant.
Tivoli (8-12e)
The natural evolution from Tiger, also has tables, but chicks are generally hotter and the venue is much bigger than Tiger.
DOM
In front of Tivoli, never been.
Apollo (15e)
Avoid at all costs, mostly burnt out crowd 30+. Don't remember ever seeing more than one or two hot girls per night.
Disco vs Bar
I am a bar person myself. While I like to dance, dancefloor game here is pretty much: approach a girl and say 'hey'. If she says 'ei'/no you're pretty much done, if she gives an answer/say nothing and looks at you, ask her whatever stupid simple thing that comes to mind and start dancing with her. From then on, escalate, isolate and do your thing.
Optimal game for me: meet her by the bar, talk about something that ends up mentioning dancing, take her to the dancefloor and take it from there.
Alcohol
Drinking is an expensive vice up here. I don't drink because otherwise I would be broke and it just doesn't do it for me. I run game sober the whole night and have a bottle of something at home to invite a lucky one for an 'afterparty'. Then I take a couple of shots, but otherwise, it's just too pricey.
Overall
I would say it's a nice city, small enough you can pretty much walk around if you're changing venues or pulling back home if you live somewhere in the center. Girls are mostly OK, except that they are much more fatter than the rest of countries in Europe I have been to (UK notwithstanding). If she's wearing black it doesn't sound too promising, check for arm diameter just to be sure. If you're into blonds this is probably not a bad place to be.
Cheers,