Quote: (12-04-2013 06:17 PM)soup Wrote:  

This guy is a complete narcicisst. He probably believes that he was destined for some great magical thing, and the whole world will be his witness etc.

OR

Maybe the whole shit is made up and he is a genius mastermind who is getting hit up by many many girls who have read his story and jumped on the wagon. Fame game dressed up as beta game.

Meh, the narcissism thing gets overplayed. Nothing here but run-of-the-mill no game/no options behavior, IMO.

Quote: (12-04-2013 07:41 PM)soup Wrote:  

Comparison:

This guy is chasing after a 6 that he met once.. all around the world.

Meanwhile, Tuthmosis is being hunted by by 15 8s. None of them even know what he looks like.

What does that say about the game?

You know what the really depressing thing about all this is.... and hopefully it will be good for this guy and will wake him up to the power of the Red Pill....

He may well find her if this thing gets publicity, and you know what 2 things she will say?


1. "Eew.. that's creepy."

2. "Oh yeah, I... think I remember him."

I hope he does find her, and gets brutally, horribly rejected to the point of tears. Then finds this forum, and becomes alpha.

That'd be a decent movie.

He obviously hasn't met any other women or gone on dates with them during that year. If he had, no way he'd be this thirsty.

Looks like Bill Maher.

Quote: (12-05-2013 02:34 AM)Zebra_Cakes Wrote:  



Looks like Bill Maher.

The dude or the chick?

Quote: (12-04-2013 11:53 PM)Ryre Wrote:  

Quote: (12-04-2013 06:17 PM)soup Wrote:  

This guy is a complete narcicisst. He probably believes that he was destined for some great magical thing, and the whole world will be his witness etc.

OR

Maybe the whole shit is made up and he is a genius mastermind who is getting hit up by many many girls who have read his story and jumped on the wagon. Fame game dressed up as beta game.

Meh, the narcissism thing gets overplayed. Nothing here but run-of-the-mill no game/no options behavior, IMO.

Not overplayed. This guy has taken to the internet to tell the whole world his pathetic story.

She probably saw the Facebook page already and deleted her profile.

All the DC-5 and 6 are famous for the impressive number of people who have taken a ride.

Quote: (12-05-2013 02:46 AM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (12-04-2013 11:53 PM)Ryre Wrote:  

Quote: (12-04-2013 06:17 PM)soup Wrote:  

This guy is a complete narcicisst. He probably believes that he was destined for some great magical thing, and the whole world will be his witness etc.

OR

Maybe the whole shit is made up and he is a genius mastermind who is getting hit up by many many girls who have read his story and jumped on the wagon. Fame game dressed up as beta game.

Meh, the narcissism thing gets overplayed. Nothing here but run-of-the-mill no game/no options behavior, IMO.

Not overplayed. This guy has taken to the internet to tell the whole world his pathetic story.

Bingo.

What does this guy know about this woman? Next to nothing. Almost a year later, dude is prostrating himself before the Internet, begging to meet this woman.

Think about this story. Every story has an beginning and an ending. Use his words. He met this girl randomly on NYE and apparently drank with her over course of the night. She leaves him no contact information and he treats this night as "life-altering?"

Nope, not buying it. To him, she is a fetishized object. I have no idea what the fetish is - saving a hurt woman? - but whatever it is, his mind has fixated on her. It hasn't been a year of change, but one that has spent way too much time obsessing over this night. He still has a picture of this woman?

Sure, it's thirst. But its thirst aimed at erecting false goals about getting external approval -- this girl's "love" or public approval for his obsession with her. Aw, Christmastime is SO romantic. Get me a fucking drink.

Women should find this man creepy because bullshit like this comes from repressed stalkers a.k.a. men with narcissistic tendencies who don't have the ability to discern their wants from others. As already has been said, any man with any real experience with women - women in real life, not porno images or creations in their head - knows that women will make an effort to get/give information so you can hang out in the future. Really, that applies to most anybody. I can't imagine drinking with anybody all night, greatly enjoying it and not at least exchanging Facebook info.

The "find me" was a friendly way of admitting she enjoyed your company but not the point where she wants further contact. A healthy dude recognizes that and moves on. A month later, she is nothing but a fond memory of a good time on NYE. 11 months later, dude is still on her jock. You can says it is thirst and that is true, but what it really is pure objectification of her. In his mind, she represents an aspirational goal, one that will never end well. He has already set up a defense against his failure, citing the "incredible odds." Nice, bro. You already have a great defense is she doesn't respond, fails after one date or the marriage fails. You can always blame the sheer improbability of "fate" for your lack of true perspective.

Sometimes people get on my case about constantly mentioning narcissism and they would be right. It is my current preoccupation and hopefully within a couple years I will have overcome my issues. Still, it is incredibly important to see how this issues play out in real life. This guy has already rigged the story no matter what happens. I said initially that the story is of preeminent importance, but the ending is 99% of the situation.

People who don't have real, concrete goals (an ending) have a very tough time in life. They expend energy on nothingness, mental masturbation and procrastination. People have finite emotional energies and it will get expended. You can't ignore emotions. This guy has spent the past year spending his finite emotional resources on a girl he met for one night who didn't bother to disclose her full name to him. Think about that. He has basically been mentally masturbating over this woman for a year. He could have hit the gym and gone from chubby to lean/cut in one year. He could have established a solid foundation in game, a foreign language or even just read serious non-fiction works to better his mind.

What did he do? He obsessed over one woman he barely knew. You think he actually did shit this past year? Everything was about pursuing this woman's approval, so he didn't do any real, substantive change. He didn't even engage in superficial changes like putting on muscle to impress her or accumulating a mad roll to trick it out with her. He has nothing to show for this past year and you know how I know that? If he did any substantive it would be in the fucking article.

He wants this objects approval. If he did anything he thought would help garner her approval it would have been one of the first things out his damn mouth. It is a throw-away statement at the end. Look at the story, analyze the words. Change is completely secondary to his movie reel of a sensitive, loving man chasing an unattainable woman. Get me another fucking gin & tonic.

You think the media lied here? They reported his words. If he had done something epic - made a massive billboard that proclaimed his love for her, that shit drives media revenue. I mean Christ, if you are going to do thirst, do it right and do something remotely epic and the media will be on that shit. All this dude did was whine about how a woman who refused to give him her contact info is his obsession/love. No fucking wonder she didn't dipshit, women can smell thirst a mile away. You creeped her the fuck out. You took advantage of an emotionally vulnerable woman and thought this was your chance to gain an object and score some pussy.

This guy is contemptible, but guys like this need the forum. I doubt he will change, but everybody has the capacity. He is in his mid-20's, the narcissism I critiqued is quite common at that age and a good bit of people burn it off and have healthier relationships. I do doubt he will do it, though.

Sadly, the ending for this man is not going to pleasant. The worst is a George Sodini type of mass murder of women (I mean 0.001% chance, relax). The best? A life of exhaustingly banal choices framed as true change, a divorce or two and a clutch of fucked up kids. Think Lester from "America Beauty" sans the death.

You could say I am over-reading the situation, but once you gaze into the abyss and see it for what it is, you can't ignore it.

Anyone who has travelled will have had countless similar encounters, passing transient moments with people that you soon forget.

It's quite likely that she hasn't thought of him once since that night. What a shock she'll get if she ever sees this.

Quote: (12-04-2013 11:45 PM)Only One Man Wrote:  

Some girl on that Facebook page wrote a long post about how he needs to be honest about hurting women in the past and leading on more than one girl at once and shit like that. If I had to bet, I'd say this is a troll job.

I'll take those odds with you.

After all he's just a kid, he's probably still watching Disney movies, he'll have time to grow up.

Betas get slammed for tricking women into unhaaaappy marriages every day, so someone hating on him for "leading women on" is not necessarily a sign of Alpha.

2Wycked's breakdown nailed it.

Quote:Reese McKee Wrote:

Wow. Just wow.

Facebook

He's adopted the lingo of Tuth's social justice gang.

Let's not be pessimists here...

Maybe it IS Fate.

Nah, I'm just fucking with you guys.

I made out with a 18 year old chick on spring break in Rosarito Beach right after high school, and I never got to fuck her.

Facebook?

All I see here is a massive opportunity to troll the media in the future.

Bait and switch is the way to go.

Quote: (12-05-2013 12:15 AM)Rotisserie Wrote:  

I hope he does find her, and gets brutally, horribly rejected to the point of tears. Then finds this forum, and becomes alpha.

That'd be a decent movie.

Am I the only one that wants this to happen, but he never finds the forum and becomes "alpha", he just keeps being a chump for the rest of his life?

I have way less sympathy for these guys than many forum members. I couldn't care less about helping guys like this out. Why is that you think? Maybe it's because I didn't start out like these guys, so I have no sympathy for them? Or maybe I'm an asshole?

Quote: (12-05-2013 05:31 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Quote: (12-05-2013 12:15 AM)Rotisserie Wrote:  

I hope he does find her, and gets brutally, horribly rejected to the point of tears. Then finds this forum, and becomes alpha.

That'd be a decent movie.

Am I the only one that wants this to happen, but he never finds the forum and becomes "alpha", he just keeps being a chump for the rest of his life?

I have way less sympathy for these guys than many forum members. I couldn't care less about helping guys like this out. Why is that you think? Maybe it's because I didn't start out like these guys, so I have no sympathy for them? Or maybe I'm an asshole?

Your lack of sympathy and assholery (?) is self respect and standards. Therefore you assume and judge people by the same standards you have for yourself.

Quote: (12-05-2013 05:50 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

Quote: (12-05-2013 05:31 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Quote: (12-05-2013 12:15 AM)Rotisserie Wrote:  

I hope he does find her, and gets brutally, horribly rejected to the point of tears. Then finds this forum, and becomes alpha.

That'd be a decent movie.

Am I the only one that wants this to happen, but he never finds the forum and becomes "alpha", he just keeps being a chump for the rest of his life?

I have way less sympathy for these guys than many forum members. I couldn't care less about helping guys like this out. Why is that you think? Maybe it's because I didn't start out like these guys, so I have no sympathy for them? Or maybe I'm an asshole?

Your lack of sympathy and assholery (?) is self respect and standards. Therefore you assume and judge people by the same standards you have for yourself.

This makes sense, assuming I understand you correctly.

I have a certain level of disdain for guys like this. I even feel this way towards one of my best friends who is about to marry a chick who is out of her fucking mind and does terrible shit that he just takes from her. I've lost so much respect for him, and it's one of my oldest friendships. The fact that he is still with this chick, and going to marry her, after all shes done is fucking mind blowing to me and I can't see him in the same light as I did in the past.

I feel the same way about my cousin who refuses to do anything masculine, and just brushes it off with condescending jokes. He is borderline suicidal and many of his problems could be fixed by not being a fucking chump bitch and just taking charge of his life.

I love them both, but my respect for them is reaching very low levels.

Quote: (12-05-2013 05:31 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Quote: (12-05-2013 12:15 AM)Rotisserie Wrote:  

I hope he does find her, and gets brutally, horribly rejected to the point of tears. Then finds this forum, and becomes alpha.

That'd be a decent movie.

Am I the only one that wants this to happen, but he never finds the forum and becomes "alpha", he just keeps being a chump for the rest of his life?

I have way less sympathy for these guys than many forum members. I couldn't care less about helping guys like this out. Why is that you think? Maybe it's because I didn't start out like these guys, so I have no sympathy for them? Or maybe I'm an asshole?

I also have no sympathy for him. I was Beta many years ago, but more of an invisible-to-women Beta, not a cringeworthy one. I've never done even remotely stupid shit like this.

Quote: (12-05-2013 05:58 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This makes sense, assuming I understand you correctly.

I have a certain level of disdain for guys like this. I even feel this way towards one of my best friends who is about to marry a chick who is out of her fucking mind and does terrible shit that he just takes from her. I've lost so much respect for him, and it's one of my oldest friendships. The fact that he is still with this chick, and going to marry her, after all shes done is fucking mind blowing to me and I can't see him in the same light as I did in the past.

I feel the same way about my cousin who refuses to do anything masculine, and just brushes it off with condescending jokes. He is borderline suicidal and many of his problems could be fixed by not being a fucking chump bitch and just taking charge of his life.

I love them both, but my respect for them is reaching very low levels.

Yep know how you feel. One of my friends from high school recently got married to a fat chick he met on the internet after about 2 weeks of knowing her. She is 27 (older than him by 6 years) already got 2 kids 8 & 6 and now a born again christian. I was appalled when I heard the news as were my other friends but he was deaf to our vocal concerns. I really can’t see him in the same light now but then again he was never a red pill guy during high school.
A few weeks ago I heard that his wife is now pregnant.