Quote: (11-16-2013 01:21 AM)Agastya Wrote:
Quote: (11-15-2013 02:12 AM)Hades Wrote:
Hit the military press, bench, deadlift, and squat hard (actually in that order - military press takes a long ass time to grow, get to where you can heave bodyweight overhead and your shoulders should be bigger than just about anybody's). Deadlifts and squats are great and whatever but anybody can get their squat or deadlift to 350 inside of two or three months, getting military press or bench anywhere that's halfways impressive can take two or three years. Upper body is most important aesthetically but unfortunately most difficult to grow.
Also, for rounding everything out, do plenty of chinups, dips, and arm curls (if you're into that).
Yeah, but don't think that squats should be neglected. Just devote one day per week to chest, shoulders, back, and legs. Your quads are your biggest and most important muscle, and the squat is all around one of the best workouts you can do for yourself. Hades' advice is sound in everything but this--legs should be given just as much priority as your other muscles, if not more.
It goes without saying that you shouldn't lift for aesthetics. Doing that gave me a decent upper body, but it also left me with twig legs, making me far worse at my current sport than I should be. Don't spend more than one or two workouts per month on your arms. Few creatures on this earth are as despised as the curlbro, a degenerate whose sole aim in life is to attract teenage girls with his disproportionate biceps. Do curls and tricep extensions every now and then, since they do help out with benching and deadlifting, but don't devote more time to them than you absolutely have to.
Also, make sure to keep up your cardio. Sure, coming out of high school a potential bodybuilder is well and good, but be sure that your cardiovascular health is in good shape. Running following lifting will keep you extremely toned and healthy. Also check out sports like rowing crew and boxing. The former will give you legs of steel and whip you into the best shape of your life. The latter will do something similar; it'll also give you the ability to kick most dudes' asses.
I discovered this site and the red pill in the my final semester of high school. To quote Truth Teller, I lived more in those four months that I did in the previous four years. The road ahead will be challenging, but it will also transform your confidence, your physique, and your ability to deal with women. Good luck, keep us posted on how stuff goes.
I'm bottom heavy and trying to get my press up to bodyweight. It's a slow grind. In the last few months I have been hitting delts and arms at least somewhat every day and the difference in attention is intriguing. I didn't start lifting for vain reasons but I'm going to continue doing so at least somewhat for vanity's sake.
Two points - lower body responds very quickly to training. Building a good military press, on the other hand, takes a lot of time.
From a time economics standpoint, neglecting upper body in favor of lower body makes no sense. Four years (or less, whatever) in high school is enough time to get a very good press, incline bench, and weighted chin. Four months is enough to get a very good squat.
I'd say give less priority to lower body just because the upper body requires more babysitting. You can do two sessions of 20 rep squats a week indefinitely (thats it) and have huge legs. Very quick, pretty taxing workout.
Not to mention that nobody cares if you have big legs. A guy with big legs and skinny arms is neither considered strong nor an athlete. Nobody is going to ask you "Do you even lift?" and motion you to pull up your pant leg and show some quad.
Why bother hating on the gym "curlbro" when he makes a very good point? Other people know that "he lifts".
If lifting made you physically uglier, would you still lift for the "health benefits"? If not, then are you really committed to lifting for health benefits or are you just saying that to diss on the abbreviated, arm-centric routines of curlbros?
Sure, I won't dispute that the squat is a great exercise, and every day is leg day in my little gym (I love working legs), but hating on vanity lifters and neglecting their preferred lifts is basically the same thing as
saying that lifting should afford nobody an advantage in terms of male attractiveness. That mindset is anti-game at it's core. It's compensatory narcissism. It's like being an average Joe but laughing at the pussy-slaying guy in the club because he's wearing eyeliner and dressed like a faggot. Why should average Joe have any reason whatsoever to feel superior to the pussy-slaying faggot?
Girls like huge, ripped backs, large biceps, and big forearms. They want a man with delts. They enjoy being seduced by a man who radiates physical power.
One might as well recognize that he lifts at least partly for vain reasons, because he enjoys the female attention, the ego boosting, the confidence, respect from other men, and the lays that inevitably come from muscle game. As long as you lift, so what?
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). My experience has been that the most aggressive women I've dealt with have been older (above 40). Some older women have the same sex drives as young people but don't have the limitation that comes with the fear from having kids (cause they're too old and/or have already had them and keep on top of their birth control). Just something to keep in mind as you get out there.
