I've been thinking lately that approaching is much like lifting weights, where repetition, consistency, and intensity of effort produce gains. Obviously, we don't tell people to work out "when they're in the mood" or "when it's convenient" when they're trying to get fit. We recommend a certain schedule of training that must be adhered to rigidly. In that spirit I thought it would be helpful if we decided on a healthy "routine" for people starting out or who want to increase their numbers. Setting numbered goals is a lot easier to follow and encourages action.

So what do you think is a good routine or goal to set for people trying to improve their game?

For me I've been making it a point to get out of the house atleast three days a week. Even if its just to Starbucks to chill. I figure being there gives me literally infinitely more possibilities then being at home. I like the idea of talking to strangers too. Its not as foreboding as approaching a girl you want to bang, but using your metaphor, its would be like doing warmup reps with half the weight to get the muscles ready.

Hmmm. I think Roosh said it best. Game is like a job. You've got to put your hours in.

Stop giving a shit. Go to a high target bar or spot, and chill. Just let it happen. If you're and A or just faking it, girls will put themselves in your area so you'll talk to them.

If she has her back to you, then OPEN HER. Touch her, get close, pull back, repeat. Be sure to listen and not just run your mouth.

As far as day game goes, I think the last post is accurate. Just practice striking up a conversation. Walk up to a girl and just talk. As long it's not world of warcraft then you'll do ok.

I would say approach at least 5-10 girls a week. BUT you should let 5-10 girls a week put themselves in your reach. The rest is up to you.

Peace be with you.

Starting to approach consitently is something I am still not doing. Is one new girl a month a reasonable number to aim for? If so, and if one's success rate is 5% (which I gather is an average success rate) you need to approach 20 girls a month (or 5 a week). Math could be wrong - had a few.

Approaching 5 girls a week could easily be achieved in night game alone, including the odd day game approach.

If you're starting off... 25 approaches a week minimum.

By the end of the second month you will definitely notice new muscle mass in the mirror.

Solo: at one approach a month you will never get good. I do one approach while taking a dump.

Quote: (05-01-2011 05:05 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

If you're starting off... 25 approaches a week minimum.

By the end of the second month you will definitely notice new muscle mass in the mirror.

Solo: at one approach a month you will never get good. I do one approach while taking a dump.

Lol. I was a bit unclear - I meant one bang a month (and with a 5% success rate, 20 approaches a month or 5 a week are neccessary to get one bang a month). Still, appreciate the advice. Gonna pick up Bang for more of that. I need to break the state of paralysis and passivity that I still sometimes enter when I should be approaching. As of now I'm only approaching now and then. Perhaps having a set number will help to approach more systematically.

How did you determine the 5% success rate number?

Just my highly unscientific estimation, mostly based on what I've read here on the forum. I created a thread about it http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-3937.html

There are other threads about this but Mixx and others recommended 2 approaches per day. I started doing this in December (I think, its all been a blur) and my game went up big time. I like the training analogy, it really is like that. You'll just get better and better and it happens quickly. 2 approaches a day is doable and after awhile, I don't know what it is that changes, but you won't HAVE to approach so much. The pussy will just come to you in mysterious ways.

"Solo: at one approach a month you will never get good. I do one approach while taking a dump".

I spit out my coffee at this!

solo: I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but if you're a game newbie then 1 out of 20 is wholly unrealistic. 5% bang conversion from approaches is actually quite good. Since 20 approaches a week is easy, that would mean 52 bangs a year at that percentage. How many guys get that many bangs a year? Most guys don't get that number in their entire lives.

Starting off you'll be lucky to get 0.5-1% conversion.

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I spit out my coffee at this!

"The Tuthmosis Method"--if I can give it name like that with straight face--is a little different than some of the others on the board. I aim to start the day out with one or two "warm-up approaches." This means an older broad, semi-fatty, or less-than-ideal prospect. That gets my social, conversational juices flowing and loosens me up nicely.

Then, I strive to do another approach or two that are the "real thing." I see better conversion rates this way. Of course, things don't always work out the way you want them to. I could see a hot chick in the line for my morning coffee, and then there's no "warm-up." All told, I do 1-3 additional approaches a day when I'm putting in the work the way I should.

I don't shoot for a number, I approach whenever I see an opprotunity

Quote: (05-01-2011 05:05 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

If you're starting off... 25 approaches a week minimum.

By the end of the second month you will definitely notice new muscle mass in the mirror.

Solo: at one approach a month you will never get good. I do one approach while taking a dump.

Funny you mention it, sometimes I take the down time in the bathroom to do 10 or so "approaches" online.

I guess there's nothing else to do but to suck it up and take it as a challenge, inspite of the odds. It's not as if I have a choice anyway, I refuse to rely solely on my social circle for girls (it never yielded much in any case).
I hope the technique of approaching a girl while taking a dump is described in Bang