Quote: (09-10-2013 07:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:18 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

I don't deny that, but at what point does it become ridiculous? Saying you think men and women are different? Saying you're proud of being a man? Is that "loose lips?" Saying "dongle?" It's a pretty slippery slope.

Haha. Are you sure that's ALL he tweeted? Let's not be disingenuous now.

Do you think a man deserves to get fired for saying the N-word outside of work?

It comes down to whether a private life (one outside of work) exists anymore. If you say he should get fired, then you've given your life to your employer, have you not?

Maybe his tweets were a cry for help in that he wanted to be fired. It doesn't seem like he's too upset by it.

This is a huge problem in our world- the destruction of privacy.

^ this has been destroyed since 2000! Come on now. System is broken. Obviously there should be separation but it's over people. Reality.

Also I wanted to say that almost all the pushback from his firing on Twitter has come from our corner of the web. The MRAs are silent, the MGTOWs are silent. We're the only ones who resist.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:28 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:18 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

I don't deny that, but at what point does it become ridiculous? Saying you think men and women are different? Saying you're proud of being a man? Is that "loose lips?" Saying "dongle?" It's a pretty slippery slope.

Haha. Are you sure that's ALL he tweeted? Let's not be disingenuous now.

I don't mean to be disingenuous, as Tuthmosis already said the guy's behavior wasn't exactly ideal.

But as long as we're defending termination based on loose lips lets define some parameters. One guy already got fired earlier this year for making a dongle joke.

Paula Deen, a southerner who came of age in an America much different than today, lost major corporate sponsorships and saw the end of her brand - even in spite of profuse apologies - for admitting under oath in court that she had used the "N-word" decades ago (one instance was recounting to her husband the story of her being robbed by a black man at gunpoint); this was a lawsuit brought against her from a white woman who basically claimed being a victim of racial discrimination just from bearing witness (the suit was swiftly dismissed by the judge).

Even in spite of that shenanigan, where even the Rev. Jesse Jackson publicly came forth in defense of Paula Deen, her reputation and business empire was thoroughly and irreparably tarnished.

Contrast that story with this Dickinson clown who works for a modern business and technology news site founded by Ivy League yuppies in NYC and that only launched in 2009. This CTO recklessly espoused his personal views via twitter in the most flagrant and unapologetic of terms.

"Jesus got raped by a pack of N*ggers." Slippery slope? No, that's a man who is about to be without a job. No excuses.

Ha, okay so it's even less people.

Not really surprising. Don't be dumb guys. If you're smart play the system into your favor as much as you can then really fuck over the gov't when you move out assets that can move part of a poor country's GDP. Ha.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:18 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

I don't deny that, but at what point does it become ridiculous? Saying you think men and women are different? Saying you're proud of being a man? Is that "loose lips?" Saying "dongle?" It's a pretty slippery slope.

Haha. Are you sure that's ALL he tweeted? Let's not be disingenuous now.

Do you think a man deserves to get fired for saying the N-word outside of work?

It comes down to whether a private life (one outside of work) exists anymore. If you say he should get fired, then you've given your life to your employer, have you not?

Maybe his tweets were a cry for help in that he wanted to be fired. It doesn't seem like he's too upset by it.

I think a C-level exec is already a slave to the man. You don't make it that far up in the corporate world without selling your soul to the system.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:44 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

"Jesus got raped by a pack of N*ggers." Slippery slope? No, that's a man who is about to be without a job. No excuses.

That was over three years ago and a clear play on the Mel Gibson affair at the time. No one cared then, no one cares now. The whole thing is very much not about that tweet.

Quote: (09-10-2013 04:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Oh yes, I love the new buzzword being thrown around.

"Social consequences"

Social consequence is nothing more than a euphemism for tyranny of the majority. Pathetic.

Let's call it what it is. 'Social Consequences' is simply 'Blacklisting' for the Cognitively-Dissonant.

@HC yep.

This comment is going to go over most people's heads. But you guys are hating on the wrong system anyway.

He will get a job, he will be fine and that is exactly why we will never win.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:44 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:28 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:18 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

I don't deny that, but at what point does it become ridiculous? Saying you think men and women are different? Saying you're proud of being a man? Is that "loose lips?" Saying "dongle?" It's a pretty slippery slope.

Haha. Are you sure that's ALL he tweeted? Let's not be disingenuous now.

I don't mean to be disingenuous, as Tuthmosis already said the guy's behavior wasn't exactly ideal.

But as long as we're defending termination based on loose lips lets define some parameters. One guy already got fired earlier this year for making a dongle joke.

"Jesus got raped by a pack of N*ggers." Slippery slope? No, that's a man who is about to be without a job. No excuses.

He didn't get fired over that. He got fired because he made light of rape and trashed feminism. The PC whiner brigade of social justice warriors responded and that's why he got fired.

The man didn't just criticize feminists or use the N-word.

I've read through his Twitter feed. He's a fan of the white nationalist site Alt Right. He's hinted at a coming race war. He's basically another Gucci Little Piggy, who he's friends with.

I know a lot of you guys agree with this stuff, and that's fine, but here's the bottom line:

It's weird to complain about Indian people hating on him because he's white when he clearly returns their hatred.

It's a bit like a Nation of Islam member crying racism while talking about white devils, except the roles are reversed. You reap what you sow.

Fuck them both. I only wish this had been a case of mutually assured destruction and the couple that got him fired were also let go.

It's not so much that I want to defend someone like this, it's more that I want to attack these PC whiners who target people professionally in the name of tolerance.

Quote: (09-10-2013 08:15 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

The man didn't just criticize feminists or use the N-word.

I've read through his Twitter feed. He's a fan of the white nationalist site Alt Right. He's hinted at a coming race war. He's basically another Gucci Little Piggy, who he's friends with.

Wow. Go figure. Where's there's smoke, there's fire. Going forward, we should do our due diligence next time we debate some random guy's character.

Quote: (09-10-2013 06:50 PM)JDSalinger Wrote:  

Having some social awareness equates being a house slave? Give me a fucking break. If you are part of the senior management of a company and want to go off and shoot whatever shit you have on your mind out on social media be my guest. I'll give the guy credit for sticking to his guns, but he still comes across as a tool.

No one is saying, "Wow, this is shocking that he got fired!"

We are saying that it's bullshit that you slaves don't have any problem with having your employer own you 24/7.

I'll be a good field slave and work for my mastah during working hours. That's only fair. He's paying me while I'm on the clock.

But it takes a true house slave to not even know he has a mastah who control everything he does outside of work.

Quote: (09-10-2013 08:15 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

It's a bit like a Nation of Islam member crying racism while talking about white devils, except the roles are reversed. You reap what you sow.

Have any of us ever tried getting a Nation of Islam member fired?

Nope. Unlike people on the left, we're able to "live and let live."

So long as you do your job a work, be an asshole or reprobate off the clock. That's your right as a free citizen.

I am shocked that so many men here don't have a problem being owned by mastah 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:49 PM)thatGuy Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:44 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

"Jesus got raped by a pack of N*ggers." Slippery slope? No, that's a man who is about to be without a job. No excuses.

That was over three years ago and a clear play on the Mel Gibson affair at the time. No one cared then, no one cares now. The whole thing is very much not about that tweet.

This.

People are making a big deal out of the N'gga comment when HE WROTE THAT TO MOCK MEL GIBSON!!!

He wasn't being racist... he was making fun of one. He made the tweet three and a half years ago for fucks sake, back when Mel Gibson was going through his divorce and yelled at his wife which got leaked in a racist phone call:

"I am shocked that so many men here don't have a problem being owned by mastah 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

It's like trying to explain to white knights about Game. Their head is stuck in the sand of mediocrity they simply can't understand, until they get sideswiped with the following:

-Divorce raped
-Terminated after 19 years working hard and consistent only to NOT receive your retirement package and a fake gold pen to say 'Thanks for your service. Now go fuck off'.

If you're not putting some energy into becoming independent of employers than I feel sorry for you.

If I would have stayed working more corporate jobs I would have more stability I'm sure; however I value the fuck out of this little thing called: Freedom, so I do what I want, when I want and answer to no man, employer or white knighting bitchass 'boss' of my destiny.

Quote: (09-10-2013 08:34 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 08:15 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

It's a bit like a Nation of Islam member crying racism while talking about white devils, except the roles are reversed. You reap what you sow.

Have any of us ever tried getting a Nation of Islam member fired?

Nope. Unlike people on the left, we're able to "live and let live."

So long as you do your job a work, be an asshole or reprobate off the clock. That's your right as a free citizen.

I am shocked that so many men here don't have a problem being owned by mastah 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

You mean you're shocked that there are consequences to your actions?

Really?

This sort of thing will only get worst. The Internet speeds our movement towards the hive mind an keeps a running tally of all of our public and semi-public utterings.

At the same time, people's inability to live an socialize outside of strict rules is only increasing. We see what helicopter parenting and the self-esteem movement has done to a whole generation of kids. Instead of ignoring people you don't like or trying to work out your differences through one-on-one interactions, now the default response is to run to an authority figure and demand "justice."

I've said this before, but feminism is only part of the problem. The other part of the problem is paternalism and the infantilization of our society. The whole world is slowly being child-proofed.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:22 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Lol you can't change the ratio.

@HC I agree it's very similar to the dumbass Asian guy from try celery.

The game is rigged done. I don't have time for bullshit about this ship turning around. We lost 20 years ago. The correct solution is keep your good contacts close and play the game to the top of the food chain.

I don't have time to debate bullshit about fixing white knights. I have tried to fix members of my own family and they end up trying to throw you under the bus as well.

There is no fix, get yours get out. That's reality people. Real life.

I believe both tuth and samseau both have articles explaining you can't change the ratio (betas like the pain etc etc). And it's true. That's why the best solution is laid out in my posts above. Debating it = mental masturbation.

The RVF is probably the largest community of legit people and it's got maybe a few hundred who truly get it. Now go over to yahoo comments and get ready for the bottom feeding retards and tell me you can't run the numskies. Ratio ain't good. I don't sell dreams.

No one is debating what the practical course of action is. We all know that America is burning and we need to get the hell out of here.

However, it still does not make it right now does it mean we shouldn't oppose such actions, even if we must do it anonymously.

Also, you seriously do not think America will not go bankrupt in the next 30 years or so? We're basically in the same spot Japan was 15 years ago.

Quote: (09-10-2013 07:50 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 04:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Oh yes, I love the new buzzword being thrown around.

"Social consequences"

Social consequence is nothing more than a euphemism for tyranny of the majority. Pathetic.

Let's call it what it is. 'Social Consequences' is simply 'Blacklisting' for the Cognitively-Dissonant.

Call it "socialist consequences".

Quote: (09-10-2013 08:41 PM)Damedius Wrote:  

You mean you're shocked that there are consequences to your actions?

Really?

No that's not what he said, you appear to have a very difficult time comprehending the message.

He said he understands a sacking is the consequences in todays age.

What he is shocked about that is society has (d)evolved where sackings have become the consequences.

It hasn't always been the consequences, and his concern is that such consequences do one great injustice, it supresses freedom of speech.

Why he calls you houses slaves is because you are here defending sackings as a justifiable consequence, and in this consequence is placing hurt feelings above freedom of speech.

Principles have shifted, and it is for the worse. Defending that shifting of principles isn't a good look, particularly for what we view as the type of men that patron RVF.

Quote: (09-10-2013 08:40 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

People are making a big deal out of the N'gga comment when HE WROTE THAT TO MOCK MEL GIBSON!!!

He wasn't being racist... he was making fun of one. He made the tweet three and a half years ago for fucks sake, back when Mel Gibson was going through his divorce and yelled at his wife which got leaked in a racist phone call:

Color me shocked. Out-of-context quoting is easily the most common dishonest manipulation tactic used to instigate witch-hunts.

Yeah I already stated on here I have opposed it anonymously and sent it via email to "red pill" guys I know with "don't you forget you're on the clock 24/7".

No I don't think the USA will go bankrupt in 15-30 years. As soon as something becomes consensus information I know it is no longer useful. Hell the debt load decreased in July. Predicting the macro is playing god and no offense to anyone who does this but I don't care about their opinions at all. I have seen this for many years and even guys I respect and know are smart never get it right so there is no reason to debate it. I don't think about it I worry about me and find a solution. So in terms of the economy it officially doesn't matter for me anymore. I'm hedged out. If you know the practical course of action which no one can debate you just spread your assets across to the country you will move to. Done and done.

If the USA gets cut in half I lose some, if it doesn't I win, and if the country I will leave to gets cut in half, I just doubled my buying power when I move. You lock in your FX rate and set up all your accounts for a smooth 0% tax rate to the good OLE USA and set it up to pay taxes in your country of expatriation. The biggest F-you possible to the USA.

Anyway back on topic, I really don't see a need for a philosophical debate on this guy. Fact is you are owned on the clock 24/7 and only a few hundred guys will ever have your back. 850 according to his twitter feed.

I got no reason to make a move like that, do the practical thing. Make as much as you can, hedge out, leave. I like solutions not what if scenarios and unicorns + rainbows.

Quote: (09-10-2013 06:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Comparing getting banned from a forum run by me and getting fired from an executive job because Indian people hate you is silly.

You're right of course. I was just trying to highlight difference between social consequences that can be blamed on one's own actions versus social consequences that can be blamed on a 3rd party agitator.