How do you respond to "Purple or white grape juice?" as a reply to the dinner and grape juice opener?
Any thoughts on manners, chivalry on first dates?
Any thoughts on manners, chivalry on first dates?
Quote: (04-10-2011 10:55 PM)auroramor Wrote:
Quote: (04-10-2011 05:58 PM)mtwersk22 Wrote:
Any thoughts on manners, chivalry on first dates?
^^ Kind of off topic, but Very Good question...especially if you are trying for the ONS right off the bat with a POF/OKC girl. Thoughts?..
Quote: (04-10-2011 11:00 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
Quote: (04-10-2011 10:55 PM)auroramor Wrote:
Quote: (04-10-2011 05:58 PM)mtwersk22 Wrote:
Any thoughts on manners, chivalry on first dates?
^^ Kind of off topic, but Very Good question...especially if you are trying for the ONS right off the bat with a POF/OKC girl. Thoughts?..
I'm far from an expert, but a ONS from an online girl would be very difficult I would imagine. Most have it so imbedded in their mind that they arent going to do that, if only because they said they wont (which most do), that the situation would have to be very right in order for it to work.
I think your best bet would be regular game and try to get her to a bar where you lose the "this is an interview" feel of an online setup first date. Booze always helps as well.
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How do you respond to "Purple or white grape juice?" as a reply to the dinner and grape juice opener?
Any thoughts on manners, chivalry on first dates?
Quote: (04-10-2011 10:53 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
Here's something that, throughout my entire online dating career, has always been an issue. I dont know what it is, or if its just the crazy women around DC, but online dating seems to be filled with "sports girls"
My problem is that I'm not a sports guy. The one sport I watch is soccer, though At least one out of two profiles the girl goes on about how big a sports nut she is, and "must love sports" "must love (this team)"
Is there a good angle of approach for these girls, or are they just lost causes?
Also, model girls. I see these every so often too. You'll come across a full blown profile of a girl who's a hard nine, lots of pics, usually the same club/bar girl attitude on all of the, very holier then thou.
Doesnt seem to matter what you say the situation is always the same, usually immediate deletion. I'm fairly certain they're just on the site for kicks, but has anyone had any experience cracking one of these girls open?
Quote: (04-10-2011 11:00 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
I'm far from an expert, but a ONS from an online girl would be very difficult I would imagine. Most have it so imbedded in their mind that they arent going to do that, if only because they said they wont (which most do), that the situation would have to be very right in order for it to work.
I think your best bet would be regular game and try to get her to a bar where you lose the "this is an interview" feel of an online setup first date. Booze always helps as well.
Quote: (04-10-2011 10:53 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
My problem is that I'm not a sports guy. The one sport I watch is soccer, though At least one out of two profiles the girl goes on about how big a sports nut she is, and "must love sports" "must love (this team)"
Quote: (04-11-2011 03:58 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
One thing I gotta ask though, what kind of pictures are you guys rolling with that you're getting this many responses?
Quote: (04-11-2011 04:42 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
Number of responses does not really matter - it is very possible to get a huge pile of responses (with a fake profile and fake pictures), which will lead to zero lays. Only the number of lays you got out of it which matters. If you just want a bunch of penpals you'd share how you spent your day with, use Facebook.
Quote: (04-11-2011 03:58 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
Thats why I come here, I wouldnt have simplified it to "its a first date, treat it like one"
One thing I gotta ask though, what kind of pictures are you guys rolling with that you're getting this many responses? I noticed once I got into shape and put some better pics I got more responses, but I still have never gotten more then 1 out of maybe 15 to reply, and its usually the lowest scoring girl I messaged.
I've been told no shirtless, I've been told yes to shirtless to show off your body (if its good enough to be shown off)
I've been told head shots, full body shots, social shots, alone shots, I cant seem to find a winning combo that peaks interest.
Or am I completely off basis and is it more about the initial message? PoF can be hard to get a handle on because there's that stupid "dont let someone know I viewed them" option so if you send a message out you have no idea if she's looked at your profile.
Quote: (04-11-2011 04:46 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
Quote: (04-11-2011 04:42 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
Number of responses does not really matter - it is very possible to get a huge pile of responses (with a fake profile and fake pictures), which will lead to zero lays. Only the number of lays you got out of it which matters. If you just want a bunch of penpals you'd share how you spent your day with, use Facebook.
That makes sense, but getting zero replies back also leads to zero lays. I'm trying to start at the bottom and build up. I want to get the infrastructure of my online game solid so that I can then begin to work on getting to the next level.
Also, maybe I should clarify, when I say responses I mean initial contact. I send message number one, I rarely get a reply back from that so the rapport ended before it began, and thats my biggest issue right now.
Quote: (04-11-2011 04:50 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
Alright, maybe I just need to keep hittin the gym and get the last bit of cheese scrapped off my ass and then try that attempt. Seems like rolling with just provocative shots acts like a filter to keep the "LTR" clingers away. I approve of this.
"And I agree with NeverGymLess - I'm no bodybuilder but there are ways to show yourself shirtless that don't look douchey (aka in front of a mirror)"
What about the "flexing" picture? Is that just a little to much, or is it good to "show off" a bit?
A player friend of mine from years back suggested doing a "candid" self shot, his breakdown consisted of set a camera timer, grab a towel and make it look like you just got down showering. (granted this was in response to pics to send a girl that you're texting already)
Quote: (04-11-2011 04:57 PM)Gmac Wrote:
Quote: (04-11-2011 04:50 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:
Alright, maybe I just need to keep hittin the gym and get the last bit of cheese scrapped off my ass and then try that attempt. Seems like rolling with just provocative shots acts like a filter to keep the "LTR" clingers away. I approve of this.
"And I agree with NeverGymLess - I'm no bodybuilder but there are ways to show yourself shirtless that don't look douchey (aka in front of a mirror)"
What about the "flexing" picture? Is that just a little to much, or is it good to "show off" a bit?
A player friend of mine from years back suggested doing a "candid" self shot, his breakdown consisted of set a camera timer, grab a towel and make it look like you just got down showering. (granted this was in response to pics to send a girl that you're texting already)
No flexing pictures unless you are basically a calvin klein model. That shower pic just sounds gay. Stick to adventure/party pics and you won't go wrong.
Gym, is the girl hot? Pump and dump... And after reading the gag reflex bit and beyond... bitch is already talking about sex, definitely go for it.
...Just make sure it's at her place and she doesn't get your last name.
Quote: (03-27-2011 03:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:
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