To say that white Americans have no identity is wrong. Many white Americans subscribe to a pan-european ideology which is understandable considering the cultural ties between European countries. And of course Americans, have a rich history of European immigration, the founding stock of this country. Culture and race unite people.

Quote: (06-19-2013 08:54 AM)bacon Wrote:  

I think white people in America can have questions about what their culture is which is logical because they are usually a mix of several backrounds be it Irish, German, Italian, etc. with generations between them and their family from Europe. I dont know how much a white student group would help in that effort to try and figure out white culture in America is but obviously some people feel like they need it. Personally I am slightly envious of my Italian cousins in Italy because they never have to question what culture they are or come from because they have lived in the same place as their family before them for hundreds of years. To be white in America is to have no clear cut culture as we are melting pot of many different European cultures and while there are many benefits to this but I can see why it could create an cultural identity issue for some white Americans.

Tell me about it. Im Mexican American and we too suffer from an identity crisis like any other American. I was born and raised in Chicago to Mexican parents. White Americans just see me as a Mexican who just swam across the Rio Grande and when I go to Mexico people look at me like an outsider, or an American or a "pocho" as they call it. Even when I was in Mexico a guy asked me "So, how does it feel not having an identity?" I cant really say Im Mexican because it will be incorrect since Im not from Mexico and Mexican is a nationality not a race.

The same can be said about Black Americans. A lot of them were brought here as slaves and got their culture taken from them and were told that they were the worst, like black was associated with being a criminal, a thug, a gangster, poor, and thats it. A lot of black Americans feel they lack a culture of their own based on documentaries ive seen.

I think every American of any race or color, being it white, black, Hispanic or Asian or whatever has some sort of identity issue that they deal with. I guess its the own country's fault for placing people into sub-groups instead of just being one people. Sadly, its institutionalized racism at its best.

Quote: (06-22-2013 10:33 AM)Don Juan Tenorio Wrote:  

Quote: (06-20-2013 06:38 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  

Quote: (06-20-2013 12:03 PM)Don Juan Tenorio Wrote:  

[...]

Now let's take three guys, from working class background, a redneck, a hispanic guy from LA, and a black guy from Atlanta with a similar economical background: unemployment, alcohol and drugs abuse, gangs; who do you think will have easier way to college, guess who will not get any social wellfare, access to university, scholarships, affirmative action, etc...
[...]

guess who will get pulled over/harassed/shaken down/beaten/killed by the cops ???

As far as I know (from the media) USA city, police, and fed police departments are multirratial [...]

tokens.

the Wehrmacht had tokens as well, just like this guy:

It's not about the distant past. Last summer I got pulled over two Saturdays in a row while pulling out of the gas station near my house. I live in white neighborhood, it was early in the morning, I looked out of place with the car I was driving. Neither time did I get a ticket or even told what I got pulled over for. The officer did get pissed when I asked though.

I was an officer for awhile. Half the reason I left is because its a culture of going serpico or turning a blind eye to a lot of shit.

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It's not about the distant past. Last summer I got pulled over two Saturdays in a row while pulling out of the gas station near my house. I live in white neighborhood, it was early in the morning, I looked out of place with the car I was driving. Neither time did I get a ticket or even told what I got pulled over for. The officer did get pissed when I asked though.

I love when that happens to me. NYPD assume I'm up to something and act all aggressive till they run my paper and wow! Nothing happens! I just sit there with a huge smirk and ask why they stopped me. It's great having hand with the pigs.

I wish they would hit me tbh: easy six-figure lawsuit.

Quote: (06-22-2013 10:33 AM)Don Juan Tenorio Wrote:  

Quote: (06-20-2013 06:38 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  

Quote: (06-20-2013 12:03 PM)Don Juan Tenorio Wrote:  

[...]

Now let's take three guys, from working class background, a redneck, a hispanic guy from LA, and a black guy from Atlanta with a similar economical background: unemployment, alcohol and drugs abuse, gangs; who do you think will have easier way to college, guess who will not get any social wellfare, access to university, scholarships, affirmative action, etc...
[...]

guess who will get pulled over/harassed/shaken down/beaten/killed by the cops ???

As far as I know (from the media) USA city, police, and fed police departments are multirratial and there are whites, blacks, latinos, and so on both sides, getting pulled over/harrassed/shaken down/beaten/killed and pulling over/harrassing/shaking down/beating/killing and pullin.

Who do you think cops would go for, this guy:



Or this one:



This one:



or these ones:



In the end it all comes down to one colour, the colour of money.

But minorities can continue telling stories about the past, using emotional blackmail and victim speech like women do as long as society allow them to profit from it, I guess I'd do the same if I were in their shoes.

Kind of a shitty example, I shouldn't be suited up at all times just so the police wouldn't fuck with me. You are trying to imply that all things being equal, a White guy has the same chance of being "getting pulled over/harrassed/shaken down/beaten/killed" as a Black guy. This is just not true.

Also, Police Departments in the US aren't "Multi cultural." In fact, in aggregate, Police Departments and federal law enforcement agencies in the US are overwhelmingly white. This doesn't necessarily mean they are all racist, but law enforcement do tend to attract people who are to the right of the political spectrum who believe in HBD, racial purity and the threat of genetic annihilation. Wether those beliefs "leak" over to their professional lives when dealing with Black or Brown citizens that's a post for another day. There's a really long and bitter history between Blacks and the police that predates the explosion in Black crime that started after the crack era.

Even in police departments that have a sizable contingent of minority cops, the supervisors and management teams are almost always all White. Most Black and Latin cops are strictly there as tokens and they screen for candidates who aren't going to rock the boat racially. Take a look at Chris Doner manifesto or listen to KRS-One "Black Cop" to see what I am talking about. As a matter of fact, I actually rather be pulled over by 2 white cops than a black cop working alongside a White cop for this same reason.

I like how every white nationalist movement is about separation and/or self determination. While every Non-White "Civil Rights" group is about having privileged access to political, economic, and social institutions, and access to more white produced wealth. Just an interesting juxtaposition. These groups can whine all they want about "white privilege", but the fact is they can't, and don't want to live without us carrying them along for the ride.

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:34 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

I like how every white nationalist movement is about separation and/or self determination. While every Non-White "Civil Rights" is about having privileged access to political, economic, and social institutions, and access to more white produced wealth. Just an interesting juxtaposition. These groups can whine all they want about "white privilege", but the fact is they can't, and don't want to live without us carrying them along for the ride.

The blacks were self-reliant for a long time until the Great Society by Lyndon Johnson was put in place. After that the black nuclear family was destroyed and dysgenics kicked in.

As for Hispanics, we have the most retarded immigration policy in the world. We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

There are a lot of talented, intelligent men of all colors in this world. But America (specifically the democrats) don't want any of them. Instead they want dumb, dependent sheep who will continue to elect them into power.

A sensible immigration policy would get rid of every illegal immigrant, and then allow people come work and live in America provided they could prove to contribute some kind of value.

Quote: (06-19-2013 05:11 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Quote: (06-19-2013 08:54 AM)bacon Wrote:  

I think white people in America can have questions about what their culture is which is logical because they are usually a mix of several backrounds be it Irish, German, Italian, etc. with generations between them and their family from Europe. I dont know how much a white student group would help in that effort to try and figure out white culture in America is but obviously some people feel like they need it. Personally I am slightly envious of my Italian cousins in Italy because they never have to question what culture they are or come from because they have lived in the same place as their family before them for hundreds of years. To be white in America is to have no clear cut culture as we are melting pot of many different European cultures and while there are many benefits to this but I can see why it could create an cultural identity issue for some white Americans.

I'm a white American and the last of my ancestors came to the US before the Civil War. They were mainly British and German. At this point I have zero connection to either of those places. I don't seek to identify with those cultures. I already have a culture that I identify with. My culture: American culture. I don't question where I'm from. I already know the answer. I don't need some hyphenated title to make me feel unique and special.

What is American Culture? It seems like an anti-culture more than anything else. It seems based on hyper-individualism more so than a collective identity. How can you have a cohesive identity as a people when one of the supposed premises of the nation is every man for himself?

Quote: (06-19-2013 05:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (06-19-2013 05:43 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:  

Stop talking about culture. This has nothing to do with culture.

It is a very simple issue:

Minorities organizing on the basis of race = socially conscious and progressive. YAY!!!!

White people organizing on the basis of race = Ku Klux Klan as a previous poster neatly put it. BOOO!!!

It's because we have no history of whites organizing around their race without it being hate driven. Blacks organized around their race and it produced Martin Luther King. Whites organized around their race and it produced Hitler.

Until there are visible examples of whites organizing around their race that is entirely divorced from neo-nazism then it will continue to be stigmatized. Thank the Klan and Nazis for giving white racial consciousness/organization a bad name.

LOL. Even if I were to accept the mainstream narrative of history that you posit, suggesting that every white person who advocates for the collective advancement and protection of his race's interests is a National Socialist is absurd.

Quote: (06-20-2013 03:19 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Dude, the fat chick is creepy as fuck. I can't stand looking at these fools. Make me wanna vomit and here's why:

First of all, wtf?

Second, who the fuck are these kids to decide anything?

Thirdly, this is such minutia that it is mind-numbing. These motherfuckers need to deploy to a foreign land where everyone who is not you is trying to fucking kill you... All this bullshit goes right out the window!

You think you need a "White Students' Union"? Are you jacking me off? Fucking first-world problems, Man! Wait until you're about to get your ass handed to you and (god forbid) a black guy saves you by dragging you to safety or an Asian covers your six while you advance under fire... What do you do when a Muslim American saves your life in combat? Oh Boy, there goes my whole ideology...

These fucking candy-ass faggots are making a mockery of 200 years of people way better than they will ever be, dying to protect the very thing they are desecrating and damaging, for no real reason at all.

Maybe Towson needs to upgrade their curriculum to occupy their student's free-time, because when I am in Afghanistan putting my balls on the line--I assure you--it's not for some bitch-ass college students to stir up controversy with these kind of bullshit antics. Where's your pride??? For fuck's sake, if anything why the fuck would you want to emulate minority groups just because you can? Makes no fucking sense. I get it--there are Black Student Unions, Muslim Student Unions, Whateverthefuck--so, you're telling me, in order to demonstrate that you are equal/better than them, you have to form a union, too???

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

You aren't putting your balls on the line for anyone other than some old dudes in back rooms at various DOD, CIA, Defense Contractor, and Lobbyist HQs. You aren't protecting American citizens.

Quote: (06-22-2013 10:33 AM)Don Juan Tenorio Wrote:  

guess who will get pulled over/harassed/shaken down/beaten/killed by the cops ???

Who do you think cops would go for, this guy:

   

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

What makes you think Europeans are looking to come here in droves? Economic motivation is the driving force behind most immigration. You don't see many Americans immigrating to Europe nor vice-versa, as you would expect, because these are first-world places. In addition to that, why the hell would they give up their generous cradle-to-grave welfare system and national healthcare to come to America where it's every man for himself? These days most European countries have more liberties than America. Clubs stay open late, you can drink a beer on the beach, won't be thrown in prison for smoking a joint, not at war with anyone, etc. Why would Europeans want to come here in large numbers? It would be a downgrade in lifestyle.

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:25 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

Kind of a shitty example, I shouldn't be suited up at all times just so the police wouldn't fuck with me. You are trying to imply that all things being equal, a White guy has the same chance of being "getting pulled over/harrassed/shaken down/beaten/killed" as a Black guy. This is just not true.

Also, Police Departments in the US aren't "Multi cultural." In fact, in aggregate, Police Departments and federal law enforcement agencies in the US are overwhelmingly white. This doesn't necessarily mean they are all racist, but law enforcement do tend to attract people who are to the right of the political spectrum who believe in HBD, racial purity and the threat of genetic annihilation. Wether those beliefs "leak" over to their professional lives when dealing with Black or Brown citizens that's a post for another day. There's a really long and bitter history between Blacks and the police that predates the explosion in Black crime that started after the crack era.

Even in police departments that have a sizable contingent of minority cops, the supervisors and management teams are almost always all White. Most Black and Latin cops are strictly there as tokens and they screen for candidates who aren't going to rock the boat racially. Take a look at Chris Doner manifesto or listen to KRS-One "Black Cop" to see what I am talking about. As a matter of fact, I actually rather be pulled over by 2 white cops than a black cop working alongside a White cop for this same reason.

To add to what Playa with a Passport said, blacks are more likely to be stopped by the cops, even though whites are actually more likely to have contraband on them. Tim Wise has been hammering this point for years now:

http://rt.com/usa/stop-frisk-whites-drugs-weapons-667/

Quote: (06-19-2013 08:20 AM)Captain Ahab Wrote:  

There is already a white people's organization. It is called the Ku Klux Klan.

That's retarded, those guys don't represent me. I have no interest in joining a white group, but if I did, why should the only groups available to me be ones that want to kill niggers?

Oh shit.

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:34 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

I like how every white nationalist movement is about separation and/or self determination. While every Non-White "Civil Rights" is about having privileged access to political, economic, and social institutions, and access to more white produced wealth. Just an interesting juxtaposition. These groups can whine all they want about "white privilege", but the fact is they can't, and don't want to live without us carrying them along for the ride.

The blacks were self-reliant for a long time until the Great Society by Lyndon Johnson was put in place. After that the black nuclear family was destroyed and dysgenics kicked in.

As for Hispanics, we have the most retarded immigration policy in the world. We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

There are a lot of talented, intelligent men of all colors in this world. But America (specifically the democrats) don't want any of them. Instead they want dumb, dependent sheep who will continue to elect them into power.

A sensible immigration policy would get rid of every illegal immigrant, and then allow people come work and live in America provided they could prove to contribute some kind of value.

This. America needs to copy Canada's policy. Bring migrants seasonally, focus on asian immigration.Most Asians vote left for social status reasons, but if there wasn't enough sheep voting for handouts, the Democrats (and Republicans, to some degree). Plus, Asians assimilate, that's the key to successful immigration. I'm tired of this whole "nation of immigrants" meme that fails to stress the importance of assimilation. Jews, Italians and Germans weren't given government forms in their native languages.

People's true colors are really coming out on this thread. It's sad that people still use derogatory names toward other ethnicities.

Quote: (06-23-2013 04:14 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

guess who will get pulled over/harassed/shaken down/beaten/killed by the cops ???

Who do you think cops would go for, this guy:

Obviously, to steal his suit.

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:44 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

What is American Culture? It seems like an anti-culture more than anything else. It seems based on hyper-individualism more so than a collective identity. How can you have a cohesive identity as a people when one of the supposed premises of the nation is every man for himself?

After a few centuries, there is definitely a culture, although culture is a necessarily vague term.

Galnuc's complaint about the "every man for himself" ethos is somewhat overstated-- that ethos, while present, is the other edge of the double-edged sword-- which is: "every man free to create".

Leon Day said "The goal of capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus." This is true, but people need to have the hope their work will be rewarded, and to maintain a future orientation rather than the ghetto orientation of getting yours now at all costs.

There are some great things about this place that I only realized in middle age, when I had traveled to several other countries and realized what I was missing.

One basic mechanical advantage is our size. If America decides on something good, it can enforce it. (The same can go for bad, again, a double edged sword.)

When I traveled overseas I realized with pride that the whole world GPS system was designed, established and is paid for by America, and the service granted free to everyone in the world. It works. We set the standard. The whole world is better off. Imagine the millions of person-hours, and probably lives saved, with people not getting lost all over the world-- if they have a GPS. The same with internet protocol.

Russia, China, and India all later developed their own systems. We got it working first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

(This gives rise to the bizarre image of Afghani Taliban insurgents driving through the desert in a Japanese designed Toyota pickup truck carrying Russian designed Kalishnokovs with an American tech based GPS received on their dashboard hunting Americans occupiers. They, in return, have nothing to offer but blind faith in a thousand year old mystical document from a glorified self-styled "'prophet"/warlord. Who has the culture here? )

A real explorer is necessarily alone because no one believes at first in what he is seeking. Because they have never seen it. This creates a feeling of loneliness in America, one feels people are sort of only interested in your money.

The good side is people will not typically exert a lot of effort to STOP you from exploring. It would be interesting to see if an evil femi-nazi has actually contacted Roosh's Web host to try to force his blog off the air. In any event, if they did, it hasn't worked.

Also, advanced capitalism, both here and in other 1st world countries, has a cold edge to it. People accept wealth as a baseline and want nothing to do with people who pull them down from their level .

As far as arts culture, for one thing, there was no Jazz before America. Jazz is the foundation of American pop music creativity, and reflects our uniqueness because it combines the vital, primal energy of the music of Africa with the technology and advanced craftsmanship of Europe-- in the form of more advanced harmony (BeBop) and more advanced musical instrument technology (Saxophones, and now electronics).

(Although the Saxophone was invented in Belgium; the world's most famous sax players, Bird and Coltrane, were African-American.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxophone

In another area that seems related, invention is more admired here than anywhere and mass production, most vaccines, and the Internet were all invented here. As well as nuclear weapons.

We are to a greater extent than any other a nation of innovators and risk takers. In many other places to start a business and fail is viewed as folly. Here it can be admired.

In no other place is there as much drive to, and acceptance of, the edict:

Try something new! It might work!

In most places, in contrast, people think to some degree more like "Do what has already been shown to work."

This is often a good strategy from an individual's point of view, but it also stunts overall societal progress. A good example is the intra-clan marrying of closely-related cousins in some financially inferior middle eastern countries. Although the Amish have problems with inbreeding because of their limited gene-pool ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder_effect) this is an exception and rarity in America.

Finally, perhaps the greatest stroke of genius on the part of the Founders after millenia of morons like the Taliban ( i.e. the Inquisition) persecuting people, is the enforcement of a secular state.

America is an Enlightenment driven state, not perhaps to the point France is, the ban hijab I believe, but still separation of church and state is a huge advantage. Claims of transcendental knowledge (religions generally claim "special" knowledge superior to other brands of religion) are neither persecuted or granted credibility. There is virtually no religious violence here.

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:25 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

Even in police departments that have a sizable contingent of minority cops, the supervisors and management teams are almost always all White. Most Black and Latin cops are strictly there as tokens and they screen for candidates who aren't going to rock the boat racially. Take a look at Chris Doner manifesto or listen to KRS-One "Black Cop" to see what I am talking about. As a matter of fact, I actually rather be pulled over by 2 white cops than a black cop working alongside a White cop for this same reason.

There's definitely unfair discrimination in the USA. These things take, literally, centuries to get over. I would hope that it's less now, especially in the South than 50 years ago.

I, a white male, was passed over in a job interview just a couple weeks ago for a women with far less experience. The department where I would have worked, a very desirable government area, now has 100% female full time employees, 14, out of 14. They hire for docility, and probably don't even realize they're discriminating against men.

I'm sure it's nothing like what a black person deals with daily, but the important part is to focus on your own goals, and picking your battles so as to benefit yourself, unless you consciously want to commit to politics, which is also your right.

Anger only hurts the person being angry, and I don't want to be that person. I want to be the person that gets what he wants (without victimizing someone else lol).

Quote: (06-19-2013 02:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Quote: (06-19-2013 02:08 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Racial minority groups in the U.S. find it very unsettling when white people demonstrate racial consciousness. If white people begin to see themselves as a homogenous ethnic and cultural group the way that Jews, American blacks and Mexicans do, the fear is that whites will re-awaken their largely dormant racist feelings. In a society that has become as multicultural and ethnically diverse as the modern United States, any such resurgence of white racial animosity towards minority groups would obviously have the potential to be enormously disruptive to the status quo.

This is the reason that white racial identity is essentially a taboo in American culture, while racial minority groups are encouraged to identify ethnically and form support networks base on their racial background.

The idea is that white people do not need any ethnic or racial solidarity, because they are already the dominant racial group in the country, while other ethnic groups, having smaller numbers and being more vulnerable to discrimination from the white majority have the necessity of falling back on racial and ethnic support.

The fear of white racial consciousness by minority groups is somewhat understandable given the history of the past century and further back into the slave era (After all, the last time a white nation became animated with racial consciousness it took practically the entirety of Europe as well as two superpowers to put them down).

However, just because it is understandable doesn't mean whites will tolerate it forever. I predict the next few decades will see a resurgence of white racial consciousness, as more whites in both the U.S. and Europe wake up to the realization that they are being displaced from their own country by fast-breeding immigrants. When that happens, you'll have decades' worth of simmering racial resentment boiling over all at once. It won't be pretty.

American blacks are not all the same. I don't buy into this thing that all white Americans are the same. My cousins in the states have little in common with African-Americans and aren't delusional in thinking they are the same.

White American culture that was the norm in the old days when America was 90% white is long gone and marginalized to rural and generally poorer parts of the country. SWPLs want nothing to do with it as its low class so instead perpetuate a 'white American' meme they can't define.

Jewish Americas for instance can clearly define cultural and ethnic quirks, rituals, religon, symbols, and stylings that persist within the culture. African-American can still do this as well even though many of the classic thugs have been run into the ground.

This is no dominate cohesive White American culture. There is a classic Ameican culture that was white but that has largey disappeard.

At my school there are to many groups. But a good chunk of them do a good job and basically hold the group to projecting and teaching thier cultural styles and keeping a open pipeline for networking which IMO is the best part of it. The Filipino groups big thing is holding cooking classes to teach people about thier cuisines with the end thing being a big pot luck supper and party. The Black student group since its so large and full of folks from evrey corner where you have anybody whom identifys as Black simply focus on development and networking. Keeping a pipeline of successfully black students in the Rolodex to help out the new crop of students. They just have pub nights and parties they leave culture out of it all because there is really no point in doing so.

This can work in Canada because your expected to keep your cultural quirks instead of leaving them at the door in America (this is a good thing and bad thing in Canada, far from perfect). I have a hard time believing many could give a detailed list of uniquely 'White American' culture.

Americans struggle to pick race and culture apart like that though. You couldn't have either of those groups i detailed be successful in America since Americnans are barley better with race then a toddler in shock from seeing a person of colour for the first time.

"White American culture that was the norm in the old days when America was 90% white is long gone and marginalized to rural and generally poorer parts of the country. SWPLs want nothing to do with it as its low class so instead perpetuate a 'white American' meme they can't define."

Actually, the SWPL crowd says they want nothing to do with it, but are the first ones to move into all-white enclaves or if they don't do that, send their kids to private schools. I've seen this with my "Ivy-educated" brothers. They wear anti-Bush/Cheney shirts, spout the liberal party line, and go on and on about prejudice. But when push comes to shove, they're the ones that live away from minority areas and send their kids to private schools that are nearly 100 percent white! This includes very expensive private pre-schools, by the way.

We are what we do, not what we say we are. I have respect for SWPLs who walk it like they talk it. But a lot of them don't. When assessing these types, instead of listening to them, look at the demographics in their zip codes and note where they send their kids to school. Because that's who they really are.

Quote: (06-23-2013 09:21 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

........They wear anti-Bush/Cheney shirts, spout the liberal party line, and go on and on about prejudice. But when push comes to shove, they're the ones that live away from minority areas and send their kids to private schools that are nearly 100 percent white! This includes very expensive private pre-schools, by the way.

I've worked for years in health care in miserable dirt-poor areas.

I'd rather see my tax dollars go to help educate the underclass than to bomb
Afghanis so Lockheed stockholders make a mint.

Neither of those means I have a moral obligation to live in a ghetto or minority area. That is my personal lifestyle choice. There is no hypocrisy here.

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (06-23-2013 03:34 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

I like how every white nationalist movement is about separation and/or self determination. While every Non-White "Civil Rights" is about having privileged access to political, economic, and social institutions, and access to more white produced wealth. Just an interesting juxtaposition. These groups can whine all they want about "white privilege", but the fact is they can't, and don't want to live without us carrying them along for the ride.

The blacks were self-reliant for a long time until the Great Society by Lyndon Johnson was put in place. After that the black nuclear family was destroyed and dysgenics kicked in.

As for Hispanics, we have the most retarded immigration policy in the world. We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

There are a lot of talented, intelligent men of all colors in this world. But America (specifically the democrats) don't want any of them. Instead they want dumb, dependent sheep who will continue to elect them into power.

A sensible immigration policy would get rid of every illegal immigrant, and then allow people come work and live in America provided they could prove to contribute some kind of value.

Samseau, the immigration bill that is currently being debated in Congress is going to greatly expand the H-1B visa program, and most of the people who will be brought under this program are going to be Asian and Indian.

As for the illegal immigrant issue, the illegals aren't going to get kicked out...ever. In fact, illegal immigrants are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The Democrats have made this a sticking point of any immigration reform.

Quote: (06-23-2013 09:52 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

As for the illegal immigrant issue, the illegals aren't going to get kicked out...ever. In fact, illegal immigrants are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The Democrats have made this a sticking point of any immigration reform.

All true, and the Republicans, when they realized they can't win shit because the Hispanic vote is already too large, immediately changed their platform .

All politicians want the same thing: power at any cost.

Hey, we annexed a lot of the west from Mexico, it's not that unfair that a bunch of them came and stayed. They seem pretty nice to me, not a toxic culture at all except for the few gangsters.