http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/28/...t-suicide/

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The man who created Canada’s only shelter dedicated solely to male victims of domestic violence died on Friday of an apparent suicide.

The day after he packed up his recently sold home — also the site of the Men’s Alternative Safe House — Earl Silverman was found hanging in his garage.

Mr. Silverman closed his shelter last month, saying he could no longer afford its upkeep. He long sought funding from provincial and federal governments to help run his hybrid shelter and home, but believed he was always refused because the space was dedicated to helping male victims and their children. He said he was unable to pay for heat and grocery bills.

typical, if it was a woman, the government would be all over trying to help her and her bitches

Quote: (05-01-2013 09:39 AM)ZeroHedge Wrote:  

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/28/...t-suicide/

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The man who created Canada’s only shelter dedicated solely to male victims of domestic violence died on Friday of an apparent suicide.

The day after he packed up his recently sold home — also the site of the Men’s Alternative Safe House — Earl Silverman was found hanging in his garage.

Mr. Silverman closed his shelter last month, saying he could no longer afford its upkeep. He long sought funding from provincial and federal governments to help run his hybrid shelter and home, but believed he was always refused because the space was dedicated to helping male victims and their children. He said he was unable to pay for heat and grocery bills.

This is why it's pointless to be an MRA

20 fucking years and he couldn't get one dime from the Canadian gov. Why fight a war you cannot win? Gotta go elsewhere.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:08 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

20 fucking years and he couldn't get one dime from the Canadian gov. Why fight a war you cannot win? Gotta go elsewhere.

What the MRAs are trying to do is, left wing fuckwittery, Men's HUMAN RIGHTS movement?, Are you fucking kidding me?
They're up against the Vladimir Kitschiko of whining and bitching, Femcunts have mastered this art to perfection, No, until and unless they are stabbed in their backs by their own cupcakes, the White Knights won't fucking listen.

There's only one thing left to do, get PUA material out there to as many men as possible, even if it's 10-15% of the male population, that's good enough.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:30 AM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

There's only one thing left to do, get PUA material out there to as many men as possible, even if it's 10-15% of the male population, that's good enough.

Why? So the bars are sausage fests?

What men really need is a kick in the ass - forgo marriage and kids, get your shit together, and GTFO America. Far more important than PUA.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:30 AM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

There's only one thing left to do, get PUA material out there to as many men as possible, even if it's 10-15% of the male population, that's good enough.

Why? So the bars are sausage fests?

What men really need is a kick in the ass - forgo marriage and kids, get your shit together, and GTFO America. Far more important than PUA.

I know what you mean, but, I think there are still some states that can be salvaged.
I know of this pan secessionist movement that is in its infancy,
||AllNationsparty||
Get out of America, where, might I ask?, this flesh eating bacterial infection will infest every corner of this planet.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:39 AM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:30 AM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

There's only one thing left to do, get PUA material out there to as many men as possible, even if it's 10-15% of the male population, that's good enough.

Why? So the bars are sausage fests?

What men really need is a kick in the ass - forgo marriage and kids, get your shit together, and GTFO America. Far more important than PUA.

I know what you mean, but, I think there are still some states that can be salvaged.
I know of this pan secessionist movement that is in its infancy,
||AllNationsparty||
Get out of America, where, might I ask?, this flesh eating bacterial infection will infest every corner of this planet.

Maybe, maybe not. Eventually this place is going bankrupt. And the #1 way to speed up the process is to prevent more men from being child-support slaves, alimony slaves, office monkey slaves to women in corporations who exploit men's labor, or boss's who employ women and end up becoming slaves to them in fear of being hit up with a lawsuit.

Gotta get more men to disengage as much as possible.

How does a man become a victim of domestic violence? I'm confused.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:46 AM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

How does a man become a victim of domestic violence? I'm confused.

You've been married to a woman for ten years and you've got two kids, she's hating on you all the time because you're not the alpha she married, and one day she comes at you with attacks accusing you of random shit.

Now you can either defend yourself and go to jail, because if you hit her she'll tell the police you abused her, or you can just take the abuse and wait for her temper to subside by appeasing her. But if you take the abuse, because women hate weakness, she'll just keep coming back at you with more and more violence in an effort to get a reaction from you.

Additionally some women take abuse out on their kids in an effort to get a reaction from their men. I've seen it happen within my extended family, and I've seen it happen in other people's families (I did social work for two years).

The only real solution is for men to leave the home, but if all of their assets are tied up in a house and they can't afford a divorce, what are their options? They become prisoners in their own house.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:46 AM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

How does a man become a victim of domestic violence? I'm confused.

Some men are wimps and can't stand up to their wives.

Some men want to call the police, but are worried that the police won't believe their story and will end up arresting them instead.

Men shouldn't "need" the same violence shelters that women need.

Is it unfair? Yes, but if i was ever attacked by my wife i would use my strength to grab her arms and keep her from doing damage to herself.

Men should take the dignified path. Tell the woman to kindly go fuck herself, and get a hotel room. You'll be at the bottom rung, but at least it's out of the pissy situation.

Granted, if ones marriage devolved to this point he has more problems as a man than i can help with.

But if a woman ever tries to attack you, you as a man have more strength than her. Use it to subdue her and tell her to get the hell out of the house.

No need for men shelters.

My ex-wife once attacked me -- she was pretty strong, smashed both her fists on my neck, I grabbed her, and then she kicked me in the shins.

Women can be violently physical. And as a man? You cannot strike her. Under no circumstances.

This is the way of modern society, and it is no use complaining about it.

Wow. Crazy. Its a cold world.

I didn't even know there was such a thing as men's shelters for domestic abuse victims.

I don't agree but I understand now. Crazy times we live in.

As a man there are ways to man handle and let your strength known without leaving a mark or injury thus avoiding jail.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:57 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Men shouldn't "need" the same violence shelters that women need.

. . .

No need for men shelters.

Right. The only room you'll be getting is a free ticket to the crowbar hotel if you so much as defend yourself.

What I don't understand is that you acknowledge that if the marriage got so far as the wife using physical violence against you, then there's no help for you, yet you're saying that there's no need for men's shelters.

Why shouldn't the wife take the dignified path of not being a bitch? Men pay the majority of the taxes, so why no men's shelters? Why hold men to a higher standard of conduct in the first place when so many of them are getting fucked over in the courtrooms?

Men are easy to throw under the bus when it comes to things like this, but getting fucked over in a court of law is pretty damn common as a man. I don't understand how you, as a married man, couldn't see why this would be necessary for some of the population.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:45 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:39 AM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:30 AM)Quintus Flaminius Wrote:  

There's only one thing left to do, get PUA material out there to as many men as possible, even if it's 10-15% of the male population, that's good enough.

Why? So the bars are sausage fests?

What men really need is a kick in the ass - forgo marriage and kids, get your shit together, and GTFO America. Far more important than PUA.

I know what you mean, but, I think there are still some states that can be salvaged.
I know of this pan secessionist movement that is in its infancy,
||AllNationsparty||
Get out of America, where, might I ask?, this flesh eating bacterial infection will infest every corner of this planet.

Maybe, maybe not. Eventually this place is going bankrupt. And the #1 way to speed up the process is to prevent more men from being child-support slaves, alimony slaves, office monkey slaves to women in corporations who exploit men's labor, or boss's who employ women and end up becoming slaves to them in fear of being hit up with a lawsuit.

Gotta get more men to disengage as much as possible.

Everybody know that, the question, HOW?
And will we make it, Sam, Japan is >50% Zeta/MGTOW, but it doesn't look like their govt wants to do away with feminist dumbfuckery right now.

And because the White Knight is an inseparable part of western culture ,it'll take much, much longer for this brand of counter feminism to go mainstream, and here's the thing, the Femcunts will STILL blame the men for the collapse, this is what they've been doing for the past 50 fucking years.
We need to secure a future for those that seek smaller govt.
You really need to take a look at this YT channel.
The US is DONE, the time to secede was yesterday.

There's also another way to stop men from feeding into the system.

@The more financially literate members on this forum.
How do you circumnavigate your taxes?

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Men shouldn't "need" the same violence shelters that women need.

Is it unfair? Yes, but if i was ever attacked by my wife i would use my strength to grab her arms and keep her from doing damage to herself.

Men should take the dignified path. Tell the woman to kindly go fuck herself, and get a hotel room. You'll be at the bottom rung, but at least it's out of the pissy situation.

Granted, if ones marriage devolved to this point he has more problems as a man than i can help with.

But if a woman ever tries to attack you, you as a man have more strength than her. Use it to subdue her and tell her to get the hell out of the house.

No need for men shelters.

This isn't lezebel, asshat.

Quote: (05-01-2013 11:36 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:57 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Men shouldn't "need" the same violence shelters that women need.

. . .

No need for men shelters.

Right. The only room you'll be getting is a free ticket to the crowbar hotel if you so much as defend yourself.

What I don't understand is that you acknowledge that if the marriage got so far as the wife using physical violence against you, then there's no help for you, yet you're saying that there's no need for men's shelters.

Why shouldn't the wife take the dignified path of not being a bitch? Men pay the majority of the taxes, so why no men's shelters? Why hold men to a higher standard of conduct in the first place when so many of them are getting fucked over in the courtrooms?

Men are easy to throw under the bus when it comes to things like this, but getting fucked over in a court of law is pretty damn common as a man. I don't understand how you, as a married man, couldn't see why this would be necessary for some of the population.

I was saying that it's acceptable to grab the lady's hands and keep her from moving around. When i was younger, my mother tried to slap me. I threw up my left hand to block her hand.

I've been in a couple altercations with women before. I'll never hit them (chris brown vs rhianna) but i see no problem putting up and arm to block them. This is especially comical when a woman tries to slap you.

I'm not married either but i agree women are definitely part of the problem. Hence why i filter a significant quantity of scuzzies out of the equation prior to finding the good ones. Scuzzy women shouldn't even get married and their beta husbands should have been smarter to know the trap they were falling in.

Alas, part of my lessons learned in swallowing the red pill are learning how to hedge my bets against the scuzzy women of america. I can't change that, but i can shield myself from it.

I still feel pretty bad for the guy. Shit like that is unacceptable. Didn't mean to flame you guys up either with the men shelter comment. I've always been able to take a shitty situation and make something workable out of it. Even if my wife kicked the shit out of me, i wouldn't see the need for a shelter. I'd have enough resources to get a hotel room.

Even if you are somehow able to perfectly restrain a woman from hitting you without any scrapes or bruises, there's nothing stopping her from beating her head against a wall and claiming you did it.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:51 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:46 AM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

How does a man become a victim of domestic violence? I'm confused.

You've been married to a woman for ten years and you've got two kids, she's hating on you all the time because you're not the alpha she married, and one day she comes at you with attacks accusing you of random shit.

Now you can either defend yourself and go to jail, because if you hit her she'll tell the police you abused her, or you can just take the abuse and wait for her temper to subside by appeasing her. But if you take the abuse, because women hate weakness, she'll just keep coming back at you with more and more violence in an effort to get a reaction from you.

Additionally some women take abuse out on their kids in an effort to get a reaction from their men. I've seen it happen within my extended family, and I've seen it happen in other people's families (I did social work for two years).

The only real solution is for men to leave the home, but if all of their assets are tied up in a house and they can't afford a divorce, what are their options? They become prisoners in their own house.

I knew a guy when I was a teenager who was my age now and he married a girl young. Thing is she was batshit crazy. She would attack him with household items, punch him verbally abuse him slash his tires etc. Took him months of trying to get a restraining order no one really took him seriously. she attacked him on the street one day and since he was always taught to never hit a woman he just held his hands up in defence. I think someone called the cops and she got arrested for violating the restraining order.

The abuse does happen and its not because the dude isnt 'alpha' enough or because he's a pussy for not defending himself. It gets out of control based on what we've been taught in regard to hitting women (in this case self defence) and the shame that comes with seeking help. It went on for months before he told his parents because he was scared of people thinking he wasn't a man.

Well the big problem is your not allowed to defend yourself, since they will arrest you. Also there should be a shelter if your divorce raped, since you won't have money.

Average woman with a weapon is more dangerous the average man with weapon, just because a woman will act upon emotions more easily then a man would.

Shitty flea market Motels have been de-facto "Men's Shelters" or.. well... Jail.

The fact that he could not get a dime in support shoes you first hand how lopsided this fight is. I am sure at each turn he tried to get approval some over reaching femicunt voided his proposal. The fact that some how men don't have issues or need help is the biggest thing that peeves me off about "gender relations" each side has its shit to deal with, some how women think by getting a buzz cut and pretending to have a deep voice they can emulate all that's good and dandy about being a Man. But they are haters because they still have their female shit to deal with and still have the proper avenues to deal with them in.

I feel for this guy because I come from a background of helping people and I will tell you its fuking sucks when your in a situation when you know you can do so much but just cant.

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:56 AM)ZeroHedge Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:46 AM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

How does a man become a victim of domestic violence? I'm confused.

Some men are wimps and can't stand up to their wives.

Some men want to call the police, but are worried that the police won't believe their story and will end up arresting them instead.

Wimps?

Plenty of these wimps went 180 on the abusive wives and killed them with no problems whatsoever when they decided too. A lot of stories out there.

Women are essentially toddlers when it boils down to physical traits.

If these men went physical the wife will only need to make a sob story up over the phone and he is done for. Job is gone, kids are gone and the judge will see to it about the house.

Wimps? More like trapped animals who made the mistake of being in love with a psycho.

Quote: (05-01-2013 12:26 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 11:36 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2013 10:57 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Men shouldn't "need" the same violence shelters that women need.

. . .

No need for men shelters.

Right. The only room you'll be getting is a free ticket to the crowbar hotel if you so much as defend yourself.

What I don't understand is that you acknowledge that if the marriage got so far as the wife using physical violence against you, then there's no help for you, yet you're saying that there's no need for men's shelters.

Why shouldn't the wife take the dignified path of not being a bitch? Men pay the majority of the taxes, so why no men's shelters? Why hold men to a higher standard of conduct in the first place when so many of them are getting fucked over in the courtrooms?

Men are easy to throw under the bus when it comes to things like this, but getting fucked over in a court of law is pretty damn common as a man. I don't understand how you, as a married man, couldn't see why this would be necessary for some of the population.

I was saying that it's acceptable to grab the lady's hands and keep her from moving around. When i was younger, my mother tried to slap me. I threw up my left hand to block her hand.

I've been in a couple altercations with women before. I'll never hit them (chris brown vs rhianna) but i see no problem putting up and arm to block them. This is especially comical when a woman tries to slap you.

I'm not married either but i agree women are definitely part of the problem. Hence why i filter a significant quantity of scuzzies out of the equation prior to finding the good ones. Scuzzy women shouldn't even get married and their beta husbands should have been smarter to know the trap they were falling in.

Alas, part of my lessons learned in swallowing the red pill are learning how to hedge my bets against the scuzzy women of america. I can't change that, but i can shield myself from it.

I still feel pretty bad for the guy. Shit like that is unacceptable. Didn't mean to flame you guys up either with the men shelter comment. I've always been able to take a shitty situation and make something workable out of it. Even if my wife kicked the shit out of me, i wouldn't see the need for a shelter. I'd have enough resources to get a hotel room.

You are naive man.

Some wives are alcoholics. What do you do when your wife sits home all day drinking and comes at you with a knife?

What do you do when she's destroying the house?

What do you do when she tries to set things on fire?

What do you do when she injures herself and threatens to call the cops on you?

What do you do when she starts hitting the kids?

Some guys on here have NO IDEA how bad women can get. Women don't start out this way... they are all innocent doe-eyed babes. But they grow old, and some of them become totally fucked up. Out of a population of hundreds of millions, it's bound to happen that some women are totally fucked in the head. It's probably no more than 2-5% of the population, but these psycho bitches exist.