Guys, just need to get this off my chest with some guys who know game and women.

As I've mentioned before, I was dating a girl for a while, she said I loved you and I held back because I was uncertain about the whole thing.

A couple of weeks ago we spoke on Skype, and she was in tears and making absolutely no sense. On the one hand, she wanted a break because she felt pressure (yet she was the one pushing for more commitment), on the other, she wanted to continue to see me. I was really just flabbergasted because it made no sense, so I tried to work through the conversation to figure out what was really going on. A small alarm went off in my head, but I didn't heed it. We ended up agreeing to do what I do. Which was to take it easy.

Well... this morning I had an idea. I guessed her hotmail password and snooped around. Nothing. Then I tried Facebook. Different password. Damn.

Then I discovered her old dating profile (she no longer uses it). I had the login info resent. Tried it on Facebook. PRESTO!!!

Lo and behold...

I found some correspondence with an inappropriate amount of flirting and date proposals.

I'm still trying to keep my composure. I've really demonstrated super-human grace this time around, not once has she seen me angry, but I'm furious and very hurt, of course. I'll be fine, but I just wanted to rant. Thanks for reading.

Quote: (12-06-2012 04:58 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Guys, just need to get this off my chest with some guys who know game and women.

As I've mentioned before, I was dating a girl for a while, she said I loved you and I held back because I was uncertain about the whole thing.

A couple of weeks ago we spoke on Skype, and she was in tears and making absolutely no sense. On the one hand, she wanted a break because she felt pressure (yet she was the one pushing for more commitment), on the other, she wanted to continue to see me. I was really just flabbergasted because it made no sense, so I tried to work through the conversation to figure out what was really going on. A small alarm went off in my head, but I didn't heed it. We ended up agreeing to do what I do. Which was to take it easy.

Well... this morning I had an idea. I guessed her hotmail password and snooped around. Nothing. Then I tried Facebook. Different password. Damn.

Then I discovered her old dating profile (she no longer uses it). I had the login info resent. Tried it on Facebook. PRESTO!!!

Lo and behold...

I found some correspondence with an inappropriate amount of flirting and date proposals.

I'm still trying to keep my composure. I've really demonstrated super-human grace this time around, not once has she seen me angry, but I'm furious and very hurt, of course. I'll be fine, but I just wanted to rant. Thanks for reading.

They are all whores, aren't they. There's a thread on this.

How did you reset her dating profile and get it sent to you? Going through a girls email or phone or facebook is opening Pandora's box. But...how can you not do it if given the chance.

I guess her hotmail password (her Grandma's name - she adores her Grandma).

With access to hotmail, I could see the spam from her old dating profile. I went to the site, pressed "forgot password" and the username and password were resent. The password worked for her facebook profile as well. I'm sneaky.

This is what girls do, everyone should know this. I think it was a bit of a shithouse move to go snooping through her personal accounts though. You should've trusted your own instincts when your alarm bells went off and made your decision then rather than getting into her Facebook and emails. You've now chosen to write about it on here and said you're furious and hurt, so now you're going to make irrational calls when prior to knowing everything through hacking her stuff, you would've been much more level headed and able to work things in your favour.

Imagine you cutting ties with her now, her asking why, etc. You'll probably let it slip why you're actually pissed off with her whereas before finding out, you could have made more cool, calculated decisions to really fuck with her hamster.

When the alarm bells go off, you should be thinking that this girl is up to something and you can't trust her, so where's the next one? Not what you did.

I disagree. The snooping was fine because it makes it easier to make a clean break. I have no doubts. Just disappointment. Now, the way to punish the hamster is indifference and ignore.

I wrote in here because its harmless to do so. Thats being rational, not irrational. I also make sure to work out and get some endorphines going. I wanted to rant, but thanks for the advice

Quote: (12-06-2012 09:29 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I disagree. The snooping was fine because it makes it easier to make a clean break. I have no doubts. Just disappointment. Now, the way to punish the hamster is indifference and ignore.

I wrote in here because its harmless to do so. Thats being rational, not irrational. I also make sure to work out and get some endorphines going. I wanted to rant, but thanks for the advice

I just don't like the snooping bit because I think it works less in your favour. I think it's better to assume because that way you're always prepared and you're always on the look out for more girls.

Hot girls get attention online, a lot. Rollo said it best when he said:

"In the age of social media, women now have an ubiquitous source of ego inflation available to them like never before. This contributes to women’s overblown sense of worth and entitlement in a way society has never experienced."

It's best to assume that she gets hit on and leads guys on. Whether she's doing it for her own ego or she generally wants to go fuck another guy is another thing. I've had girls show me messages on their Facebook and text messages from guys. They get a lot of offers. I just assume that a girl I'm seeing wants to fuck another guy and in my head she's just another slag, and it's no loss to me if she drops off because there's always more out there. It also helps with being aloof and coy with them which will obviously work more in your favour.

We fuck around, they fuck around. Just as long as it doesn't get you into beta mode or hurt you, then go with it and actively look out other girls at the same time. In my opinion.

Someone else has a rage-ahol post going also today about a girl.

A girl that 'wants a break' means that she is interested in a new guy that isn't committed to her, she doesn't want to cut you off completely in case it doesn't work out with him, but will as soon as its secure.

I advise not flipping out at all on her, redirect your anger to work or the gym or whatever. Burn her with silence and preemption. Agree with her 'wanting a break' then a day or two later tell her that its over and you've met someone else (even if its not true). She will likely spaz (its projection of her own underhandedness). From there you can move on with your life or easily get her back. The prior is the best choice but I don't judge on the latter, I just quote the 'fool me once' proverb.

Nice detective work but I think in this day and age you're going to find shit on Facebook and cellphones no matter what. Some girls play by the "rules" but most do whatever. I think I'm going to beta orbit some of the DR crews girlfriends today on Facebook.

Quote: (12-06-2012 09:43 AM)wiscanada Wrote:  

Someone else has a rage-ahol post going also today about a girl.

A girl that 'wants a break' means that she is interested in a new guy that isn't committed to her, she doesn't want to cut you off completely in case it doesn't work out with him, but will as soon as its secure.

I advise not flipping out at all on her, redirect your anger to work or the gym or whatever. Burn her with silence and preemption. Agree with her 'wanting a break' then a day or two later tell her that its over and you've met someone else (even if its not true). She will likely spaz (its projection of her own underhandedness). From there you can move on with your life or easily get her back. The prior is the best choice but I don't judge on the latter, I just quote the 'fool me once' proverb.

Agree and I have enough experience to not believe in all that crap about getting back together. After writing the OP I went down and squatted like a mad man.

Thanks for chiming in.

I've cut her off, although she doesn't know it yet. Fortunately I don't have facebook myself, but I've blocked her on whatsapp, viber, skype, etc. Eventually she'll call and I'll have to ignore her. Seems a bit drastic, but I prefer it this way. We used whatsapp a lot. Wondering if I re-install to not be so drastic?

I've already got a date lined up with a girl a point better than her, but she's got tats so I figure they're about equal. Unless she has a tribal over her ass. I love that shit.

If we ever talk again and she asks "why", I'll say "well, I thought about what you said, and I agree. I am just looking for someone different, something else. Good luck with everything, though."

Quote: (12-06-2012 09:55 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Nice detective work but I think in this day and age you're going to find shit on Facebook and cellphones no matter what. Some girls play by the "rules" but most do whatever. I think I'm going to beta orbit some of the DR crews girlfriends today on Facebook.

I was actually really proud of myself. Lulz @ ego-stroke...

Oh well... as they say:

Disregard females, acquire currency.

Quote: (12-06-2012 12:16 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Disregard females, acquire currency.

When that meme first became big (last year, perhaps?), myself and the guys at work kept a copy hung on the bulletin board in the warehouse for our own amusement.

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One of the girls we worked with got pissed about it and hung a sign next to it that said, "If you want something said, tell a man. If you want something done, tell a woman."

In response I put a sign next to hers that said, "A woman can do anything a man can do, if a man first shows her how."

Some time later our boss got paranoid about being sued for sexism and made us take it all down. Good times.

Why am I posting about this on the game board? I don't know. Either way, ElJefe, I hope you power through this.

Quote: (12-06-2012 06:20 AM)MattC Wrote:  

This is what girls do, everyone should know this.

Right.

The reason she was in tears because she's in a panic.

She wants to fuck some other guy, but feels committed to you or is hesitant to dump you totally. She wants you to be a fallback, but feels horrible about making you a fallback.

And so the hamster runs clockwise, then counterclockwise.

WOMEN ARE NOT RATIONAL!! Do not expect it of them, do not expect them to explain things clearly and completely, do not expect them to tell you what is really in their heads, nor should you answer their questions directly.

They are pathetic creatures, actually. Always stay above them. Always.

Damn man, Really sorry to hear that.

The reality is that no girl is worth feeling upset over, and to me that is even MORE depressing.

I hope you stick with your guns. Remember, nothing you can say will change the outcome unless it's "so long".

Disclaimer: When I broke up with my gf and found out she was with another guy a week later, I lost my shit. I was devastated. I went from calling her a whore to telling her I loved her and would do anything for her to calling her a whore and back again.

Thanks for the input, Tenderman/Fisto. It's OK. I'll be fine.

Last time I broke up with a girl I was crushed for months but I feel very much in control of myself this time.

I am going to reinstall WhatsApp just so she knows I didn't delete it just because of her.

First slubu now you eljefe?

Seems like girls are dropping like flies and cats here are getting affected.

These realizations are nothing new, just drop the chick and instead of using your time snooping through her shit, run some approaches.

The time you spent going through her shit to see what you already know, mulling it over, posting it here, you could have secured a hottie for the night.

All pussy is a drug. Feel yourself getting too invested, you better wane yourself off.

No doubt we've all been where you're at, but after these break offs, I usually find even more motivation and run through girl after girl.

As to whatsapp, you better not delete it, its a pussy goldmine. Just block her on it.

Quote: (12-06-2012 12:16 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I've cut her off, although she doesn't know it yet. Fortunately I don't have facebook myself, but I've blocked her on whatsapp, viber, skype, etc. Eventually she'll call and I'll have to ignore her. . .

Good plan.

I already have a date and will do some recycling.

As for the ex, the message bombardment has already started. Am going to take some sleeping pills and look at them in the morning. I imagine its going to go like this:

Resentment
Anger
Accusations
Sobbing
Pleading
Begging

Or something to that effect. Really unpleasant actually, since I unavoidably am still emotional about this. Damn humanity!

Back in the day, when I would discover girls' flirtation with other guys I would start scheming too of how to "get back". The thing is, is that won't make you happy. You should always do what makes you happy.

I've found some flirtatious texts in my current girl's phone, and now I just blast it out in the open.

"Hey just so you know, I'm never going to take you seriously as a girlfriend. I saw those texts from so-and-so. If you're entertaining those kinds of interactions with other guys, it completely invalidates any feelings you've ever expressed to me."

You should see the expression on their face when you hit them with this. They'll apologize, or plead, or try to explain things away. You just sit back with your arms crossed and a grin on your face and nod patronizingly.

She might try to get you on the defensive with, "You shouldn't be violating my privacy like that!" You just counter with, "If you didn't give me a reason to then I wouldn't do it."

You want to see a hamster flip and see a girl FIGHT for your attention and good graces? Say shit like this. Meanwhile I go out on a weekly basis looking for new poon. She still does my laundry, brings me food, wins me over with attention.

You might say, "Well you should just break up with her." The thing is, is they ALL do this. It's kinda nice having a girl on emotional lockdown.

My #1 rule with girlfriends and LTRs now: No matter how good she is to you, no matter what she does for you, you treat her like she's the worst girlfriend on earth. Whether a bitch is just a ONS, a fling, dating, gf, wife, whatever, a bitch is a bitch is a bitch. Treat them all the same and you'll never be disappointed, and can use it to your advantage.

Manipulative? Sure.

Adapt or die.

Quote: (12-06-2012 05:24 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

My #1 rule with girlfriends and LTRs now: No matter how good she is to you, no matter what she does for you, you treat her like she's the worst girlfriend on earth. Whether a bitch is just a ONS, a fling, dating, gf, wife, whatever, a bitch is a bitch is a bitch. Treat them all the same and you'll never be disappointed, and can use it to your advantage.

Absolutely true. I do this as well. Accuse them of all kinds of things. I find projecting helps as well: whatever you think you may be doing that's "bad," accuse her of doing that to you. You don't pay a lot of attention to her? You don't buy her things? Accuse accuse accuse.

The crazy thing? It just makes them love you more. I have done and said mean things, then 20 minutes later it's I love you so much.

Quote: (12-06-2012 05:09 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I already have a date and will do some recycling.

As for the ex, the message bombardment has already started. Am going to take some sleeping pills and look at them in the morning. I imagine its going to go like this:

Resentment
Anger
Accusations
Sobbing
Pleading
Begging

Or something to that effect. Really unpleasant actually, since I unavoidably am still emotional about this. Damn humanity!

Haha her mind is gonna be buzzing all night if you do that. You should check them so she sees you've been online if it's on whatsapp. That'll fuck her head up some more.

Quote: (12-06-2012 05:09 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

I already have a date and will do some recycling.

As for the ex, the message bombardment has already started. Am going to take some sleeping pills and look at them in the morning. I imagine its going to go like this:

Resentment
Anger
Accusations
Sobbing
Pleading
Begging

Or something to that effect. Really unpleasant actually, since I unavoidably am still emotional about this. Damn humanity!

I re-read your posts. I've been in your exact situation (they are all the same)

Make your decisions after working out. Take a protein shake or do whatever you do to get your testosterone juicing, bang out some squats, work up a sweat, and then while you're on your endorphin high, say whatever you gotta say to her. You're going to be pumped and high on life, NOTHIN can touch you, you're like the most carefree, alpha, positive guy on the planet. This is going to drive her NUTS and make her feel like a fucking moron for even entertaining the idea of some other guy's cock over yours.

But you just hold back. Let her blow you and take it in the ass for you if you want. Kick her ass out and go hunt for some strange.

GL and report back.

It's not uncommon for chick's to have a Plan B, even if they're talking commitment with YOU. Part of the reason why they ask or press for exclusivity is they need to know who to proceed with, and who to drop or put on the back burner. If a woman breaks up with you, she already has another guy ready to go. They're the ultimate monkeybranchers. I know a lot of women that immediately cancel their dating profiles when they start seeing someone, but the moment things start heading south, they open a new one immediately.

Thanks for the advice, gents. I hate whatsapp. Seems like she's having that meltdown. She wrote: "I need to talk to you ASAP!". "???" "can you please call, we need to talk!".

I replied: "I need some time and space to think. Hope you can respect that. Have a nice day."

Dude the best way to get over a girl is to find more girls. Channel your rage toward some sick game. You being aloof will do more towards getting her back anyways

Quote: (12-07-2012 02:18 AM)20Nation Wrote:  

Dude the best way to get over a girl is to find more girls. Channel your rage toward some sick game. You being aloof will do more towards getting her back anyways

The only thing that can replace old pussy is new pussy.

Quote: (12-06-2012 09:31 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

It's not uncommon for chick's to have a Plan B, even if they're talking commitment with YOU. Part of the reason why they ask or press for exclusivity is they need to know who to proceed with, and who to drop or put on the back burner. If a woman breaks up with you, she already has another guy ready to go. They're the ultimate monkeybranchers. I know a lot of women that immediately cancel their dating profiles when they start seeing someone, but the moment things start heading south, they open a new one immediately.

There's two girls that I know (that I'm aware) that are in exclusive LTRs that I keep seeing their profile on okcupid. Smh