Quote: (11-16-2012 10:10 AM)kosko Wrote:
I'm surprised nobody has stated the obvious fact that Israel has been running a illegal military occupation in the Palestine Territories for decades now.
Israel's greatest enemy and threat to its safety and security is its self. Nobody poses a threat to Israel other than its own Reactionary Policies. Like all Reactionary States that proceeded it Israel will eventually fall. Because Israel does not make any sense. It governs like a female without any logical or rational stances. It breeds perpetual conflict as a means to justify its means. Israel and the Arab conflict will never end because Israel can't live without it. How can Israel return to the prior thousands of years when Arabs and Jews lived in that area in relative peace. It would destroy the shoddy strawman that Israel has built up that everybody is a seething Anti-Semite hell bent on destroying them when it is far from the case. If Israel acted like a honest broker and respected the International Law - the same 'International Law' I add that gives Israel it's legitimacy in the first place - then the conflict would end, literally the next day. This deep religious boondoggle is overblown and limited to only sensitive areas such as Jerusalem and other shared holy spots. But the essence of two different religious and ethnic groups able to live in peace is doable. But it will never be because as I said Israel needs the conflict. It's radical right wing hangs its hat on it. It needs to kill a few of its own from egging on Rocket attacks to justify its whole complex - it makes no sense right? Of course it does not. Israel was never supposed to make sense.
War and conflict will forever be peace to the Zionist right - wing. Israel is the invisible hand that will eventually plunge the globe into another World War.
How can this possibly be correct? You're whole argument is that Israel needs the conflict, and if they gave up the land in dispute, the conflict would simply end.
Sure, if you were dealing with rational people, who weren't religious fanatics being trained at young ages to run into crowded areas with bombs strapped to their chest in return for 20 virgins in heaven, maybe, just MAYBE the conflict would end.
But you're dealing with a race of people who at birth, child-rearing, and adult life make it their life goal to decimate the other culture. If Israel gave them the Gaza strip the attacks would only escalate. The Palestinians aren't after just the piece of land, they won't be happy until Israel, and all of Western Culture is completely destroyed. To them, their life is a small sacrifice to pay for this goal.
And you're argument that Israel simply doesn't make sense? To clarify, I'm not Jewish, or even a crazy "right winger" for that matter, but how does it not make sense that a race that has been persecuted for thousands of years, and virtually exterminated in WWII, doesn't deserve a safe haven for once in history.
Respecting International law? Why don't you ask the Palestinians who are putting their children in terror camps at the ages of 10 and indoctrinating them with a radical interpretation of their own law if they respect International law.
Israel needing to kill some of their own to perpetuate the conflict? You can't be serious here. I don't know if you've ever been to Israel, but the communities and people there are much closer and tight nit than your hold-hand maple syrup loving demographic. Its amazing what collective persecution can do to a people. Think of it like hazing in a fraternity. These people have gone through hell together, and they'll be close forever. These people remember the wars they fought (because they all serve), and the times they've had to live in basements for weeks at a time because threats of chemical gas rockets exploding over Jerusalem and Tel Aviv threatened their very livelihood.
No one wants to live in a perpetual state of conflict. Lets be real here.