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05-31-2012, 03:50 AM
When you have your private pilots license you can rent small airplanes from most flight schools or airports.
Little cesnas cost around $120 an hour (an hour of flight time, you can take it the whole day or sometimes multiple days but you only pay for the time you log on the engine).
$200 will get you about about a 45 minute flight each way and lunch.
Once you get up to altitude you can have the girl take the controls, and coach her a bit. A fun thing to do is to "teach" them how to takeoff and land. You coach them through the entire process as they are on the controls. However, you "ride along" on your set of controls and are actually doing the flying, she just thinks she is because she is touching the controls.
I think a PPL (private pilot license) will set you back about 7k these days. When you visit a flight school website dont believe the quoted price there. They list the price for the minimum hours required by the FAA, most student pilots take longer. You can cut down on that by studying hard and flying a lot of flight simulators, they actually do help. It should be 40 hours minimum, count on about 150-160 per hour for plane rental + instruction.
Its an investment for sure. I would recommend the younger cats look into flying for a career. Baby boomers are all about to retire, and theres a shortage of younger pilots because the pay has been shitty and the entry costs so high over the last decade or so. So now would be a good time to be looking at it as a viable career option.
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05-31-2012, 04:36 AM
thats a tough question. If I had a choice I would fly cargo, don't have to deal with shitty passengers. The top cargo operators (UPS for example) are hard as hell to get into, you pretty much need to know someone.
No you dont need military service to get in with the major airlines, although it helps a lot.
And there will always be a demand smaller twin engine turbos in the form of flight instruction, charter services, or small regional airlines.
The simplified process:
1.Get PPL
2. Get Instrument rating (allowing you to operate in and near clouds)
3. Get Commercial Pilot License (allowing to work for hire)
4. Get Commerical flight instructor and commercial flight instructor instruments (allows you to teach)
5. Work at a flight school to build hours (500 hours or so for smaller regionals)
6. Work at regional airlines getting shit pay delivering pizza on your time off while building hours (about 3000 hours)
7. Work at a major airline for some-what shitty pay and get the shit routes for a couples years.
8. Become a captain and watch the pay increase and your choice of routes increase as your seniority increases
Its one of the those things where it pays off in the end. Im researching foreign airlines, can you imagine banking 100k while living in SE Asia?
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05-31-2012, 04:34 PM
Or it could be overweight.
The flight I took yesterday had to be delayed because it was 2000 pounds overweight, and the pilot told us that with the head wind coming at them directly after takeoff, it would have been difficult to climb. While they were emptying the plane, I guess they noticed something wrong with one of the landing brake things and had to replace it. That took more time. All in all we didn't end up getting out of the airport until 3 hours later. Can you imagine if they hadn't caught that we tried to takeoff against the wind 2000lbs overweight? Then tried to brake during landing and it didn't work? There are so many different factors and things that could bring a bird down or kill you on takeoff/landing. And like I said, it might be the safest way to travel, but it's the surest way to die. Once something goes wrong you're fucked. There is no soft landing from 33,000 feet, from a stall, etc. The Air France flight that went down in 2009 happened because the junior pilots didn't know how to properly get the plane out of a stall, didn't know that the computer still reads "STALL" even when the plane is gaining airspeed simply as a design mechinism and that you're actually not stalling, couldn't see that because it was pitch black over the Atlantic Ocean, some of their altimeter equipment froze, and as a result they went down. No survivors (of course). I mean how many good pilots out there can correct a situation like that? And will they be sleeping at the time, as was the case with the senior pilot on Air France?
I fucking hate flying. They need to give us a way out in the case of an emergency. I'll take my chances with a parachute. Something. Anything. Not dying in some cramped space like a rat or something.
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06-01-2012, 03:49 AM
You have to ask yourself if it's worth refraining from living the life you want and staying in your own country (or the neighboring ones accessible by train/bus) just to avoid the small risk of flying. It's a slippery slope, once you decide to stop flying why shouldn't you also never travel by car, train, boat, bus etc? Why should you cross the street? Why should you even go out of the house, you might get killed or sick etc.
We're all going to die some day. Maybe it's better to do it while living the life we want rather than dying of old age regretting not doing the things we wanted to do.
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Fear of Flying
06-01-2012, 04:03 AM
Would it be possible to pack a parachute to carry on? Imagine the plane going down while you strap up and hop out.
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06-01-2012, 03:54 PM
The chances of a plane accident are extremely low.
If you're going to worry about your plane crashing, you might as well abstain from sex, alcohol, and walking out of your house because all those involve dangers too(however small they may be).
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06-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Oddly enough, I went to college with 3 guys that already had pilots licenses in their late teens. They all used to occasionally fly up to school. Also, the school wasn't far from an airport in upstate NY, so one of the guys used to buzz the campus. Only one of them went on to fly for a living. I don't know about his family, but they probably had some money. Of the other two guys, one of them's dad owned a construction company, and the other kid also came from some money (his dad was a doctor, and along with other members of the extended family they shared the costs for the plane).
I've always been a comfortable passenger. I love getting on a plane and going somewhere. Even if the flight is a little rough, I'm cool. And on longer flights, I'm sleeping most of the trip anyway. I only have one friend that really doesn't like flying, and as luck would have it, she has to fly a lot for her job...HA HA! She sucks it up to fly for vacations also - she doesn't let it stop her. You shouldn't either.
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06-07-2012, 08:46 AM
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06-07-2012, 08:56 AM
Im taking a 17 hour flight tomorrow.... Boooooooooooooooo
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Fear of Flying
06-07-2012, 09:10 AM
If you can't avoid flying, get your doctor to prescribe you some Valium.
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06-07-2012, 04:31 PM
Another thing you can do is fly when you are most tired. Take early morning flights, but stay up all night before. Or fly late at night when you'd naturally sleep anyway. I always do this, not because I'm afraid of flying, but because flying can be physically uncomfortable, and/or boring depending on how long the flight is. I want to be asleep through most of it.
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