Here's a thread that aged poorly:

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Lol at this.

You have posts in EE talking about committing violence against Jews, minorities, and the "Deep State". This forum -- which used to be a great and level-headed place -- essentially became a safe space for the Dylann Roofs of the world.

It's funny how none of this is against Roosh's new values, but talking about casual sex is

Has someone archived this forum already? Banning the old posts will be a burning of Alexandria moment
This place will never be the same for sure and at the same time a LOT of men need the knowledge contained here
I have always foreseen a moment where this place would be shut down, but I never imagined it would happen this way...

Game is like the 2nd amendment, of course some guys will use it for bad things, like fucking married women or ruining LTR material girls, but to take it from men, and consequentially the ability to defend themselves and navigate through relationships is unfair and will do them no good at all

What happened to "game saves lives"?

As much as I respect Roosh and his personal decision to take another direction in life that is congruent with his faith, the veterans here needs to create another game forum or a refuge for the oldschool stuff
I also want to archive this place but I have no experience with that

Some dude mentioned Vintage Erotica but that's a joke, there must be a better option, I'll check Naughty Nomad as Suits mentioned..

Wow i respect your decision and hope everything works well....but this is honestly the only space (that I know of) where guys can be guys about guy things. Especially sex.

'only discuss long term relationships with quality girls'

So goodbye to every forum member living in America!

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The existence of forums such as this is a consequence of cultural decline and the average guy being given a pretty raw deal. Guys can't trust their family members to act in their interests in fact in many cases the family feeds them bullshit that will sabotage their success in life and with women. I can see toning things down a bit because the banter is a bit declasse at times, but I believe that it would be a mistake to clamp down too hard. Purity is traditionally a female virtue, men where generally left to their own devices and the expectation for them was to not take a girl on a path towards marriage and cause her to deviate from that path.

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Major props to see out your conviction and to make a decision that is both unpopular and against your financial interests. That takes brass balls and is commendable.

I've reaped an incredible amount of benefit from the forum, and I hope you're able to see out your vision. Can a forum that once celebrated edifying threads on how to eat booty turn a new leaf to become a masculine-centered Christian forum?

I guess time will tell!

As someone who appreciates life as a pensive epicurean and bon vivant, I've always found this place a refuge and have enjoyed a certain kind of kinship-from-afar with many men here that have shared themselves and their thoughts in both wholesome and less savory aspects.

I'm grateful for this forum. I love the upward spirit. I love travel.

In limited doses I also love the dark side of life. And I really love pussy!

The change in ethos of the forum is unfortunate, and it's a reminder that good things don't last forever. Bon voyage!

@Roosh, will you full life’s work that I purchased always be available online or do i need to save all the files ASAP

Well this is sad, the US has no shortage of “Christian Talk.” It’s actually the most religious country in the western world and I believe some of the major problems that we discuss here on a daily basis arise from the fact that the Christian Right, who makes up majority of America’s potential opposition to liberal degeneracy, is incompetent, obsessed with the apocalypse and the return of the messiah and as a result has completely failed to have any victories in the last 50 years.

If the evangelical right was replaced by “Nominal Christians” that allowed and promoted forums like this, the left would be decimated under a decade. But instead we have old men holding up the Bible with one hand and “praying for our souls” instead of fighting back with the same tools they are attacked with daily.

On the upside for the “accelerationists” this is probably good news, the less helpful information such as this forum is out there, the weaker and more pathetic the next generation of Anglo men will become. They can vote in buttplugs hairstylist’s and hit the gas on the inevitable collapse.

I loved the diversity of opinions we once had on this forum, but I realize that, that; just as all great things eventually do; seems to have now come to an end.

I wish all the remaining forum members good luck in their journeys of personal development; but as for myself and many others it seems, this is where we must part ways.

It was a great time, 2016 - 2019, I will miss this forum dearly.

the funny thing Is, the timeline of my spiritual path has followed Roosh's.

I have become deeply spiritual recently and only wish to get closer to God. And I am only 30!

I have been very much VOLcel the last few months and just don't have the drive for casual ***.

I am going on a holiday to Thailand and Bali next week to relax, and I can't be bothered meeting women there.

At some level I realize it's all shallow and meaningless.

Yet I have been improving in every other area of my life.

I do wonder if Roosh is foreseeing that game in general is indeed dead in the west


Of course, The issue arises of would it be wise for men to marry in America with the divorce statistics and laws? Unless they change I don't see much changing.

Quote: (Today 03:22 PM)Vienna Wrote:  

Quote: (Today 12:04 PM)alchemical Wrote:  

Everything is coming full circle. And Roosh/RVF is at the forefront.

You saw it here first. "2019 is when it all started..."

My feeling as well. I’ve been around since Roosh created Return of Kings and wrote about the coming culture wars, SJWs, the global smartphone addiction etc. He was a good few years ahead on many major ”trends” and areas.

Will not be surprised if more and more atomized people in global urban hotspots silently start disconnecting from our modern sterile culture, in order to find a deeper meaning... Just like Roosh have. A person can extract only so much value from soy lattes, feminist vegan restaurants and the latest Tinder clone.

I agree with the posters who say this change is a bit heavy-handed. On the other hand, there have been signs lately, and I’m excited to see this new direction.

Quote: (Today 02:05 PM)Mariner Wrote:  

@debeguiled If he ever shows his face in my country again it might matter. Also, I'm not a trad-con, so don't subscribe me to ethics I don't share.

So you're gonna beat up Roosh if he comes to whatever goofball country that flags from?

You gotta relax junior. You just did one of my favorite things people do on this forum. You say you're gonna quit, but then you keep on going. Just quit brah. Nobody cares.

So there's saome change. Ok. Roll with it. I will still yap about fishing and Busch Beer (Jesus loved those things), Debguiled will still cyberbully me in British, all you political types can still chat, bitcoins, etc. Its ok.

And instead of talk of fornicating, switch it up a little, talk about FORNEY-cating!



Look at him with his orchid lei.

Aloha!

I’m in and out of here and love the place. I respect Roosh’s decision. One thing you cannot deny is the level of truth in the scripture. It’s pretty much a blueprint. I’m not necessarily religious in the sense of organised stuff, but many verses have accurate depictions of today’s society

I’ll still be here.

The thing with knowledge and being an initiated man, is that you must act upon the knowledge and wisdom gained, not stagnate. There has to be evolution

Quote: (Today 04:42 PM)KMK Wrote:  

Here's a thread that aged poorly:

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I think that thread is extremely important, actually.

I had a friend over for drinks, some nights back; very good friend. Her and I would have riveting conversations, and we'd do kindnesses for one another. Spent most of our breaks together. And then that moment arose; you know the one. The convresation's been fun, the liquor is hitting just the right levels - this is when you escalate. And believe me, I dearly would have loved to. But I didn't.

She has a couple of children from a lousy ex-husband, and I'm not equipped to become a step father. Escalating would have been a selfish action, and a poor way to treat a friend.

I didn't try and sleep with her, not because it would have violated chastity, but because it would have violated charity.

One of the Catch 22s of our era, is that women are called to chastity, and they're utterly dropping the ball. Leaving us men in a conundrum: behave with Classical ethics, get drowned in endless one night stands; behave with Christian ethics, get ignored. I'm still trying to figure out how to square this circle; I hope the new rules don't prevent such conversations, moving forward.

Am I the only one patiently waiting for Leonard to finish his morning pint and discover this thread?

I did not see this coming... But I will wait and see how will it goes.

These changes will affect the travel and game sections. But anyway the travel section (appart from meetups) was dying in the last couple of years, with many people (me included) refraining to drop publicly certain intel on certain places.

There will still be interesting topics around, like fitness, health, society and politics.

I just hope that no content would be deleted/erased. That would feel like when the Talibans demolished those ancient Buhdda statues in Afghanistan, or more recently the burning of the Tower and dome of the Notre Dame Cathedral.

It is RooshV forum, and for good and bad, always have been with Roosh rules.

Certainly other places will arise for the hot shots of the game section to continue to drop wisdom.

Quote: (Today 05:17 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Debguiled will still cyberbully me in British, all you political types can still chat, bitcoins, etc. Its ok.

And instead of talk of fornicating, switch it up a little, talk about FORNEY-cating!



Look at him with his orchid lei.

Aloha!

Mingin' not blingin'.

I greatly admire and appreciate you Roosh. You're blog, forum, and books have truly changed my life. I think I've bought every book you've ever put out besides Lady. I've watched your writing mature and change, and I've also matured quite a bit over years I've been here. I'm a Christian like you, although not the most devout one.

That being said, I think this is too extreme of a move. Just eight months ago you published a book that said a man should "focus on a modest goal of ten lays" simply to understand the nature of women. You've thrown out similar advice for years, dating all the way back to the "Bang" days. Now even discussing the "learning process" is outlawed here? Do you still stand by this advice? If not, what's a decent man to do?

You have been a huge role model to me and, especially in my early years, I have treated all of your material like it was the indisputable truth. I respect you for what you have accomplished and how you have helped me personally, but today I am feeling very confused, a little pissed, a little stupid, and definitely bummed that RVF is dead as I've come to know it.

I really don't know what else to say and am not sure how involved I'll be with the forum moving forward - however, I truly wish you the best and will certainly support you on whatever your next venture may be.

A religion such as Christianity needs men like Roosh. As of now it is led by weak men with tunnel vision and no thought of their own. Like Eunuchs used for their labour they are blind and ignorant to the world.

Weak men who dont know whats out there can't fight evil, they never suspect how close it could be and they probably couldn't sniff it out. To hope they could fight it is rediculous. We've seen threads such as the inversion agenda, pedos in hollywood and the God pill threads and all of them point to one thing, evil.

I guess some men (me included) are looking within themselves and theystarted to see behind the words of wisdom long forgotten but are clearly there in texts, books or said by men throughout history.

Weak men did not lead Christianity in the West all those centuries ago.

I'm not religious(yet?) nor am I praying but I do see both sides in this. The weak men are destroying our countries and culture.

Quote: (Today 05:21 PM)WarMachine Wrote:  

The thing with knowledge and being an initiated man, is that you must act upon the knowledge and wisdom gained, not stagnate. There has to be evolution

Beautifully stated. I look at my evolution, and the evolution of this place and general, and I noticed a pattern. Guys who discover this place more often than not discover it due to a female situation of some sort, whether it be trying to bang as many girls as possible or understanding what went wrong with an ex. So for the most part, they start out in Travel/Game, perhaps with a little bit of "Life/Fitness" sprinkled in.

As time goes on, they start to see how male-female dynamics are at work in other aspects of their life, such as dealing with their female co-workers, family friends, or just simply situations that they have witnessed where females had unspoken yet special advantages, which leads them to the "Everything Else" section.

From here, they start to understand the greater realm of human interaction and fundamental human motivations and interest in the "everything else" subforum slowly becomes interest in both the "Everything Else" forum and the "Politics and War".

Now at this point, a guy on here reaches an important juncture and does one of two things: 1) He gets stuck in the Game/Everything Else/Politics section or 2) He starts to have more significant focus in the "Lifestyle and Fitness" section. In other words, we either get stuck talking or we get doing. If you're using the forum the right way, guys should end up mostly reading the Lifestyle and Fitness section. Not to say you never, ever look at anything else on the forum, but this should be your main focal point if you're truly growing. There's a finite amount that needs to be figured out in terms of human nature and how human and societal interactions work, at some point you just got to roll up your sleeves, pick your balls off the floor, and get moving.

If you look at other guys such as Victor Pride, Chris from Good Looking Loser, and Mike Cernovich from his Danger and Play days, they are/were all heavy on practical advice, and they don't/didn't spend too much time overcomplicating the nature of women. Coincidentally, these are all guys that actually back their brand up and have put photos of themselves out there for the world to see. And I have to be honest, for a couple years, I realized that nothing new was being said in the Game/Everything Else forums yet I still spent too much time their reading. If you've been on the forum for a few years, the time for postulating the greater world and women is over, and you need to take actions. You know how things are at that point, so now what are you going to do with it?

Quote: (Today 05:49 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

A religion such as Christianity needs men like Roosh. As of now it is led by weak men with tunnel vision and no thought of their own. Like Eunuchs used for their labour they are blind and ignorant to the world.

Weak men who dont know whats out there can't fight evil, they never suspect how close it could be and they probably couldn't sniff it out. To hope they could fight it is rediculous. We've seen threads such as the inversion agenda, pedos in hollywood and the God pill threads and all of them point to one thing, evil.

I guess some men (me included) are looking within themselves and theystarted to see behind the words of wisdom long forgotten but are clearly there in texts, books or said by men throughout history.

Weak men did not lead Christianity in the West all those centuries ago.

I'm not religious(yet?) nor am I praying but I do see both sides in this. The weak men are destroying our countries and culture.

Semitic religions were, are and will always be lead by weak men, it is in their nature.