Quote: (03-05-2019 10:26 AM)Sleek2b Wrote:  

Yea... especially negative opinions from my posts. They do reflect the reality for 30+ old who wants higher standards
But if you are younger, tall, In good shape, Poland is still pretty easy for below 7s

Tourists/guys with no experience reading the reality of a resident...claiming you are negative...I have been listening this stuff for long time.

The rule is that a foreigner has to date at least 1-1.5 below his value.
Speaking several languages, going on 15/17 vacations for year, having a good income, a solid game and being a successful man is always a minus for Polish girls.
Poland now (wasn't the case few years ago) is suggested to guys with weak game, getting used to blindly chase girls, tolerating flakes and shitty attitudes, who have low standards, and who additionally are pretty introvert (since it's a country which discourages social interactions and activities)...if you look energetic and happy they think at you as you are strange/weird.

Quote: (03-05-2019 10:42 AM)Barron Wrote:  

Quote: (03-05-2019 10:26 AM)Sleek2b Wrote:  

Yea... especially negative opinions from my posts. They do reflect the reality for 30+ old who wants higher standards
But if you are younger, tall, In good shape, Poland is still pretty easy for below 7s

For a guy that claims to have fucked 100s of girls, you don't portray the tone of a man that has learned much from those experiences. Rather that of someone who wishes they had those experiences and blames an entire demographic of a single country for his own failings.

I don't blame an entire demographics.
I am blaming the fact that once you want higher standards Poland is worst than home. I can fuck plenty of cute girls... that's great, but what's the point?
That's high quality that I want, and the hard truth is as a foreigner you gonna struggle a lot

But do I fail?
Yes of course. Last week I got too drunk and missed an ONS. I can only blame myself (and that was pathetic)

Now, you try to live in a foreign country for 5 years, with a stressful occupation and locals who are more and more cautious with foreigners.
Believe me you gonna start feeling home-sick... and that's the biggest difference between you,me or anyone, as Giacomo said, who comes here as a tourist.

And that is why I will still stand by my general opinon.
For a guy of my age and earning a certain income, Poland fall in the law of diminishing returns.

Is it a bad place? For an average guy with average standards: no.
(and it might vary city to city)
Is it a great place? To meet high standards no.
You have to work extra hard, learn the language (Polish... good luck) break into social circles which rarely have foreigners in them and survive the long polish winter (ects).
And I am serious about the winter. You guys have great experience of Poland in SUMMER.
Yes summer is great! It last 2 month but we live here through the November - March shit^^
Dont forget: there are no guarantees that those efforts will pay off. And that is what I see in general.

Tbh, a foreigner in France with a similar situation as me in Poland will have the same issues.
The hottest french girls do not have any interest meeting foreigners, they barely know any and their english is often too mediocre anyway.
So in a way my situation is normal.

However I want people to stop having this idea that being a foreigner is a great advantage.

That's a bullshit statement which I see often regarding Poland.
It does not match our experiences as foreigners

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OflwhKsYe54
the future of Poland(Antifa Warsaw 03.03.2019)

Quote: (03-05-2019 02:51 PM)Pawel Wrote:  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OflwhKsYe54
the future of Poland(Antifa Warsaw 03.03.2019)

Damn... I was just there 3 days ago.
But to be honest, as nice as Poland is they have not yet fallen into decadence and depravity. I saw far less hipsters and sjw freaks than I thought I would given this forum's take on things. Even that chick in the video is cute enough to lick my cock like she did her finger. I'll be back in April sweetie

Boys, just got back from Poland and it has changed a lot since the last time I was there (2014).

Seems like the girls have slowly started to become "Americanized". More girls have tattoos, playing the field, addicted to social media, etc. Social media really killed it, since these girls have instant validation on multiple apps and have the ability to really chat with anyone around the world.

With Poland's economy and situation improving, being part of the EU, cheap flights in and out of the place, being a foreigner really isn't an advantage anymore. The only situation it may be an advantage would be with lower tier girls (6 and below) since they don't get much attention from the local boys. You might find some success in smaller towns or villages, but you're really going to need to know Polish. The guys in these areas are a lot more aggressive, so be careful if you want to try this.

Poland will always have a special spot for me since it was where I began gaming. I remember the days when my Iphone 3GS would be blowing up with text messages with girls that wanted to hang out. The flake rate was about 50% at that time, still high, but better than the 90% it is currently. Just thinking about how much its changed makes me depressed.

I don't want to waste my time and type an essay out here but I'm really confident in saying Poland is dead or on life-support. You're better off going to Belarus and Ukraine. Once those places fizzle out, you're looking at small Russian villages or towns.

Quote: (03-05-2019 05:59 PM)Burner Wrote:  

Boys, just got back from Poland and it has changed a lot since the last time I was there (2014).

Seems like the girls have slowly started to become "Americanized". More girls have tattoos, playing the field, addicted to social media, etc. Social media really killed it, since these girls have instant validation on multiple apps and have the ability to really chat with anyone around the world.

With Poland's economy and situation improving, being part of the EU, cheap flights in and out of the place, being a foreigner really isn't an advantage anymore. The only situation it may be an advantage would be with lower tier girls (6 and below) since they don't get much attention from the local boys. You might find some success in smaller towns or villages, but you're really going to need to know Polish. The guys in these areas are a lot more aggressive, so be careful if you want to try this.

Poland will always have a special spot for me since it was where I began gaming. I remember the days when my Iphone 3GS would be blowing up with text messages with girls that wanted to hang out. The flake rate was about 50% at that time, still high, but better than the 90% it is currently. Just thinking about how much its changed makes me depressed.

I don't want to waste my time and type an essay out here but I'm really confident in saying Poland is dead or on life-support. You're better off going to Belarus and Ukraine. Once those places fizzle out, you're looking at small Russian villages or towns.

Yes, lets all daygame Vorkuta and Norilsk. Good luck. This won't work. And guess what? I'm pretty sure that even the few hot single girls who are masochistic enough to live in Norilsk or Magadan in their prime of their beauty all have social media nowadays. Everyone is on VK and Instagram in Russia. Its 2019. And the girls who willingly live in these places are probably not interested in foreign guys anyways: Those from these remote villages or decaying industrial cities who want foreign cock can easily move to Moscow and St. Petersburg to chase their dreams, and have been doing so since the fall of the USSR.

Quote: (03-05-2019 05:59 PM)Burner Wrote:  

I don't want to waste my time and type an essay out here but I'm really confident in saying Poland is dead or on life-support. You're better off going to Belarus and Ukraine. Once those places fizzle out, you're looking at small Russian villages or towns.

If you have issues in "modern day Poland," those same problems will multiply for you in Ukraine & Belarus likely...

^^ Wrong. Ukraine and Belarus are a different animal compared to Poland. While it's getting more difficult everywhere, the issue in Poland is mainly flaking and getting dates, whereas getting dates in Ukraine/Belarus is much easier. The trickier part is escalation and closing on those dates.

Just a thought, and would be cool to read yours opinions.

Could it be that the lesser flake rate in places like Ukraine or Belarus compared to Poland, is because in the latters many girls hustle, in the sense of having sponsors, engaging in shady activities, soft-prostitution, bar scams, paid presences in clubs, stripping, etc. Therefore having more time (and will) to meet up, compared to the more career oriented Polish women?

Also you guys think that the flake rate in Poland is also higher nowadays for local guys, or is just for foreigners?

In general, I think it's easier to get a FSU woman on a date, because for them a date doesn't mean the same thing as it does to a girl raised in the West. A girl in the West (and now increasingly Poland) will only go on a date if she's actually attracted to the guy, and considers him a potential sexual partner. The FSU mentality is different...the threshold to get them out is lower. For them, dating can be just a way to feel feminine, get attention, etc. After all, the guy is always paying, right? Also, a FSU girl judges a man on non-looks characteristics a lot more so than in the West, so a first meeting is often needed to screen the guy. I would say a 2nd date for FSU women is equivalent to a 1st date for Western women. Regarding hustling, that can explain some of it, but this behavior is more cultural...you'll see it with FSU girls when they move to Western countries as well.

Quote: (03-02-2019 05:41 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  

What would be the best place in Poland to live for a while (2-3 months), to focus on work, meet local girls and that has a chill vibe?

I've been to Krakow, but that city is way to touristic. Also Warsaw is great, but trying to avoid capital cities as well.
It can be touristic, but Krakow is just to much for me.

1. Warsaw(and don't worry the capital city issues do not apply for Warsaw)
2. Poznan

So, is Poland broken? Thinking heading over a week before Easter for a long weekend

Quote: (03-21-2019 12:49 PM)BroodingSea Wrote:  

So, is Poland broken? Thinking heading over a week before Easter for a long weekend

Well to answer your question in my opinion YES Poland can now be declared broken . Your time would be much better spend in places like Bulgaria, Romania or Moldova where your hunting would be much easier and more fruitful!

... plus it's a rather religious country and you are trying to got during probably the most important holiday time for them ... probably not the best idea.

Honestly i hate polish girls. They think that they are the most beautiful in the world and behave like that.

I had a date with a polish girl in Newcastle. 36. Cute. Good shape. Scientist. Her fella works in the same university department as her. He left her for a younger girl of 26. They all still work in the department. Anyway. Nice date. Chilled. Got a text next day saying she was expecting fireworks, tummy rushes and amazing feelings but it didn't happen. I felt like replying saying you're an over the hill woman who doesn't compare to any of the younger girls I pull. I as expecting a mature woman with realistic expectations, notwithstanding the fact you're still married, as if id put my cards down so heavy. But I didn't. I just replied "I'm absolutely cool with your decision". Modern women, man.

The main problem about Poland nowadays is the fat endemic, I'm in Spain right now and quality is higher here (if we consider just the body and the face), and I'm more into the Nordic type of beauty.
Plus the old problem that Poland is a sea of girls between 6 and 7, really rare to find anything above the 7, and if you find them, 99,99% they're in a relationship.

I have to say I'm really into slim girls, often what people call "curvy" for me is fat.

From what I read here, it seems most of people would prefer to fuck a short and fat blonde blue eyes girl instead of Emily Ratajkowski ( https://instagram.com/emrata ), just because she's not blonde.

Yeah I cant do fat, was fatfished last night. Sick of it

Quote: (03-22-2019 11:57 AM)traveler97 Wrote:  

The main problem about Poland nowadays is the fat endemic, I'm in Spain right now and quality is higher here (if we consider just the body and the face), and I'm more into the Nordic type of beauty.
Plus the old problem that Poland is a sea of girls between 6 and 7, really rare to find anything above the 7, and if you find them, 99,99% they're in a relationship.

I have to say I'm really into slim girls, often what people call "curvy" for me is fat.

From what I read here, it seems most of people would prefer to fuck a short and fat blonde blue eyes girl instead of Emily Ratajkowski ( https://instagram.com/emrata ), just because she's not blonde.

Is this more true for urban areas than it is for non-urban areas? When I was in Wroclaw 2 years ago, I didn't see a fat endemic there.

Mmm I really doubt quality in Spain is higher than Poland... Spanish girls are usually short and not so good looking in terms of face.

This might be already answered but what is the preferred texting platform in Poland?

Quote: (03-22-2019 06:52 PM)Tinder Scientist Wrote:  

This might be already answered but what is the preferred texting platform in Poland?

Facebook messenger id say. Although WhatsApp is becoming more popular these days. But still nowhere near as popular as fb.

I was having an interesting conversation with a friend the other day who's also active on the forum about Poland. We both agreed that although things are getting worse here its still a much better option than our home countries and there are many things in Poland that are not mentioned in this thread that are very much positives about the country. To name a few things and for once post something positive about the place.

. Cheap, ok things are more expensive than a few years ago but its still a cheap place to live for guys coming from western countries, you get far more bang for your buck.

. Decent infrastructure, you can find pretty much the same facilities as you can find in most western countries, there is really nothing I can't get in Poland that I would really want that I could in the UK. It is not a 3rd world shithole like some other countries close by.

. Girls are AT LEAST 1 point better than in the UK on average, the same can apply to most other western countries I'm sure.

. Obesity is nowhere near the levels in the west despite what some posters here are suggesting, I very rarely see obese people in the supermarket whereas in the UK there have been several occasions Ive seen several in one visit, same goes for the streets.

. No presence of rapefugees or other 3rd world immigration.

. Very safe. I never have once felt threatened or had any bad incident in Poland in 5 years of visiting/living there. I've walked around at all hours in many cities and been to many so called dangerous areas. Statistically its also one of the safest countries in the world.

. English levels are decent enough amongst young people, I know some Polish which helps allot but even without that you will not be stuck in a big Polish city with only English.

. In my experience Polish people are pretty helpful and respectful towards foreigners. Although me and my friend both agreed it is indeed very difficult to penetrate social circles and people will always view a foreigner as an outsider no matter what.


We also talked about this thread and how many of the comments on it these days seem like borderline trolling to us. The amount of negativity is insane. its obvious that Poland is not what it was a few years ago but the same can be said for most place in the world but Poland seems to get more hate than others.

I will say that if all you care about is girls and nothing else matters than I wouldn't recommend Poland as there are places with better looking girls in Europe and also places where its easier to get laid. But I think as a package in terms of cost of living, safety, infrastructure etc its still hard to beat Poland comparing to the other slavic/ee countries. Girls are also not that bad as this thread would allow you to believe. If you're coming from the UK/US then you will not be disappointed with how the girls look here.

We can say many good and bad things about all countries in the world.
Lets not stay in the surface, I think that many people in this forum are smart. If you aren't broken as hell nor a student when being in a cheap country is a must for your finances, just keep in mind that a country being cheap in Europe is a HUGE minus since it will be invaded by cheap sex tourists, desperate with little money and stag parties. Those people are the worst to get, since in the end girls won't be able to differentiate solid guys from some random idiot.
On the other end Polish girls seem to like chavish and uneducated guys. At least Ukrainian girls are able to make a sort of selection.
You will not find these people in Montecarlo, Swiss Alps, Norway...
I hope that the main target of people in this forum is stepping up in terms of lifestyle and game, getting high quality targets.
The countries which have been getting better lately are the countries which are getting expensive where you don't see hordes of desperate to hunt for girls.
As I already mentioned, for example in Bratislava or Vilnius you don't experience the horrible situation with girls and the intolerable atmosphere you find in Poland when going out in the night lately.
Kopernikus went straight saying that nowadays those girls believe to be the most beautiful in the world and they behave like princess with a completely shitty attitude. Nowadays they are amongst the most unfriendly and full of themselves girls in Europe.
As we repeated, additionally there are many girls who are not receptive to game, so you can find really few targets. And in some towns, if you have high standards, a solid game, international experience, model looks, living as middle-upper class, it's not unusual going for several months without any shag or even a date...
Shit I even think that Zac Efron is not going to get laid in Poland lol

So you find Bratislava and Vilnius better then Warsaw?

Quote: (03-23-2019 03:07 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

We can say many good and bad things about all countries in the world.
Lets not stay in the surface, I think that many people in this forum are smart. If you aren't broken as hell nor a student when being in a cheap country is a must for your finances, just keep in mind that a country being cheap in Europe is a HUGE minus since it will be invaded by cheap sex tourists, desperate with little money and stag parties. Those people are the worst to get, since in the end girls won't be able to differentiate solid guys from some random idiot.
On the other end Polish girls seem to like chavish and uneducated guys. At least Ukrainian girls are able to make a sort of selection.
You will not find these people in Montecarlo, Swiss Alps, Norway...
I hope that the main target of people in this forum is stepping up in terms of lifestyle and game, getting high quality targets.
The countries which have been getting better lately are the countries which are getting expensive where you don't see hordes of desperate to hunt for girls.
As I already mentioned, for example in Bratislava or Vilnius you don't experience the horrible situation with girls and the intolerable atmosphere you find in Poland when going out in the night lately.
Kopernikus went straight saying that nowadays those girls believe to be the most beautiful in the world and they behave like princess with a completely shitty attitude. Nowadays they are amongst the most unfriendly and full of themselves girls in Europe.
As we repeated, additionally there are many girls who are not receptive to game, so you can find really few targets. And in some towns, if you have high standards, a solid game, international experience, model looks, living as middle-upper class, it's not unusual going for several months without any shag or even a date...
Shit I even think that Zac Efron is not going to get laid in Poland lol