I have met and banged women from literally any race and nationality. I would say Polish girls are unique in terms of weirdness. Avoid at all costs.

Quote: (02-19-2019 10:17 AM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Can anyone recommend so good nightlife spots for Tuesday?

I know most of the weekday night life spots mentioned are on Wednesday and Thursdays.

Cheers

Could you please share with us the good spots for We & Th ?

Quote: (02-19-2019 10:41 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  

I have met and banged women from literally any race and nationality. I would say Polish girls are unique in terms of weirdness. Avoid at all costs.

They are not easy... anymore. They seem super sceptical and flaky. The amount of times I was asked what I'm doing here I've lost count... felt like a job interview. But hey I've only been here for 48 hours so well see lol. I'm in Krakow for reference (yes I know it's played out) but I'm not only here for girls... I'm working on a project and doing some touristic stuff as well.

I've had 9 numbers on tinder prior to arriving and most flaked or didn't reply lol when I arrived.. never seen flaking to that degree lol. Also, 1 day game girl that is now too busy due to exams. I can certainly see the benefit of being here long term as mentioned by most people. The girls here are slow burners and it's hard to bang them first time due to the combined effect of them being wary of foreigners, lack of ONS culture and their schedules.

If I don't get a bang, then it's all part of the learning experience....not every trip is successful.

Quote: (02-19-2019 10:41 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  

I have met and banged women from literally any race and nationality. I would say Polish girls are unique in terms of weirdness. Avoid at all costs.

Normal distribution doesn't allow for it. You probably self-selected for (your attributes, personal preferences, location[s] attracting a specific subset), or were, basically, statistically unlucky...

Quote: (02-19-2019 11:11 AM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 10:41 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  

I have met and banged women from literally any race and nationality. I would say Polish girls are unique in terms of weirdness. Avoid at all costs.

They are not easy... anymore. They seem super sceptical and flaky.

I recently met a Polish girl from Warsaw. She was friend's friend, not a date.
I asked her about dating in Warsaw. She said that there are many foreigners in Warsaw and ''although it's interesting to meet them and learn about other cultures, almost all foreigners want to move to bed very fast''.

Quote: (02-19-2019 11:58 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 11:11 AM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 10:41 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  

I have met and banged women from literally any race and nationality. I would say Polish girls are unique in terms of weirdness. Avoid at all costs.

They are not easy... anymore. They seem super sceptical and flaky.

I recently met a Polish girl from Warsaw. She was friend's friend, not a date.
I asked her about dating in Warsaw. She said that there are many foreigners in Warsaw and ''although it's interesting to meet them and learn about other cultures, almost all foreigners want to move to bed very fast''.

Got a date lined up in an hour with a Ukrainian chick. She seems pretty keen. The plan is to move her to a pub near my place after.

Tbh if your black or brown skinned, you'll get looks. I've yet to see another black person but then again I've only been here 48 hours lol
I'm currently sitting at a coffee shop in the old town by the window. Girls walking past giving me IOI and smiling and some giggling with their friends lol. I haven't hit night life yet so we'll see.

It's deffo a place for a longer type of game.. I reckon girls would be more willing if they know you're here for longer or working here.. at least the top quality ones.

My experience in Poland was exactly that. If you visit for a few days or even a week or two you will find it hard to get anything good and might be whacking off at the end of your trip. Even if good looking/game aware. But if you’re staying for a few weeks or months and definitely if you’re there long term, your results will be exponentially better. Polish women were having foreigner fatigue already when I first got there in 2013. It has only skyrocketed since then.

I think the mistake most guys do in Poland is they behave as players, thats why Polish girls eventually ghost. It's an anti-game country and as someone said on here it's very important to undergame Polish women. I have a good personal example.
I met a Polish 8 and we went for drinks. We had an 'intellectual' chat and the Polish girl told me that I was a very intelligent man. Well, after 5 minutes, she took an 'emergency call' and had to leave. Then, she ghosted.

An intellectual, slightly political chat in Barcelona would get a girl wet.

My 2 cents.

Update with the Ukrainian girl. She looked exactly like her pics I would rate her 7.5... dressed in red tight dress.

Date went well but to cut to the chase, no bang... she refused to drink which made it harder for me to directly ask her back (usual excuses) and the fact she mentioned a story to me of a french guy who invited her back to his apartment on the 1st date and how she found it off putting. Anyway I noticed she kept looking at my arms during the date lol so I knew she was attracted. I kissed her when her taxi arrived (made an excuse to hold her hand when crossing to build more rapport). She messaged me later to we should go out tomorrow. No bang but I'll need to be patient... I don't know how else I could have handled it.

We spoke about dating life in Poland and she mentioned how Polish girls are really into exotic looking guys. She said that I must have many girls on dates... (ofc didn't tell her most of them flaked lol). But this makes me believe that if I was to stay longer here, I could do well.

Im not relying on her for tomorrow and based on the flakiness so far, i lined up 4 dates (2 from insta dms and 2 from tinder) tomorrow in the assumption that 3 will flake LOL. If all 4 flake then...fml lol. I'm going to be bold and ask them back so that in the event I'm unsuccessful, I'll go to Coco which is open tomorrow night and try my luck there instead of wasting my evening on dates that won't lead anywhere.

Anyone been to Coco recently? The general consensus seems to be that clubs are the best at 10-11... is this still the case ?

Forgot to mention, I've created a standard insta dm and sent it to girls tagged Krakow, filtered to recent and sent it to the girls that I liked the look of. 50 messages resulted in 6 returns and 4 numbers including 3 possible dates (1 flaked). This was all pipelined prior to arrival.

PS - I've noticed guys hating and staring at me when I was in the bar with this Ukrainian chick. Even we when walked out some random guys outside were staring and said something in polish and laughed. Just putting this out there. I don't think Polish guys are fond of foreign, especially black men dating their women (she could easily look Polish).

Quote: (02-19-2019 06:55 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Update with the Ukrainian girl. She looked exactly like her pics I would rate her 7.5... dressed in red tight dress.

Date went well but to cut to the chase, no bang... she refused to drink which made it harder for me to directly ask her back (usual excuses) and the fact she mentioned a story to me of a french guy who invited her back to his apartment on the 1st date and how she found it off putting. Anyway I noticed she kept looking at my arms during the date lol so I knew she was attracted. I kissed her when her taxi arrived (made an excuse to hold her hand when crossing to build more rapport). She messaged me later to we should go out tomorrow. No bang but I'll need to be patient... I don't know how else I could have handled it.

We spoke about dating life in Poland and she mentioned how Polish girls are really into exotic looking guys. She said that I must have many girls on dates... (ofc didn't tell her most of them flaked lol). But this makes me believe that if I was to stay longer here, I could do well.

Im not relying on her for tomorrow and based on the flakiness so far, i lined up 4 dates (2 from insta dms and 2 from tinder) tomorrow in the assumption that 3 will flake LOL. If all 4 flake then...fml lol. I'm going to be bold and ask them back so that in the event I'm unsuccessful, I'll go to Coco which is open tomorrow night and try my luck there instead of wasting my evening on dates that won't lead anywhere.

Anyone been to Coco recently? The general consensus seems to be that clubs are the best at 10-11... is this still the case ?

Forgot to mention, I've created a standard insta dm and sent it to girls tagged Krakow, filtered to recent and sent it to the girls that I liked the look of. 50 messages resulted in 6 returns and 4 numbers including 3 possible dates (1 flaked). This was all pipelined prior to arrival.

PS - I've noticed guys hating and staring at me when I was in the bar with this Ukrainian chick. Even we when walked out some random guys outside were staring and said something in polish and laughed. Just putting this out there. I don't think Polish guys are fond of foreign, especially black men dating their women (she could easily look Polish).

It is hard to say if exotic look is really an advantage... It is really polarizing.
Some girls told me the same... but in reality it is rather a disavantage with the best looking babes in my experience (at least now, it was not the case 4 years ago)
But if she is the kind of girl who goes to Coco, then she is part of the crowd who is into exotic guys.

I actually got ONS from there but it was like 4 years ago...so it is feasible.

I would recommend you to be careful and go out with other guys. Once I was with an Asian friend and some guy just hit him with no reasons (in the street), I had to separate them and call the police.

Quote: (02-19-2019 07:38 PM)Sleek2b Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 06:55 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Update with the Ukrainian girl. She looked exactly like her pics I would rate her 7.5... dressed in red tight dress.

Date went well but to cut to the chase, no bang... she refused to drink which made it harder for me to directly ask her back (usual excuses) and the fact she mentioned a story to me of a french guy who invited her back to his apartment on the 1st date and how she found it off putting. Anyway I noticed she kept looking at my arms during the date lol so I knew she was attracted. I kissed her when her taxi arrived (made an excuse to hold her hand when crossing to build more rapport). She messaged me later to we should go out tomorrow. No bang but I'll need to be patient... I don't know how else I could have handled it.

We spoke about dating life in Poland and she mentioned how Polish girls are really into exotic looking guys. She said that I must have many girls on dates... (ofc didn't tell her most of them flaked lol). But this makes me believe that if I was to stay longer here, I could do well.

Im not relying on her for tomorrow and based on the flakiness so far, i lined up 4 dates (2 from insta dms and 2 from tinder) tomorrow in the assumption that 3 will flake LOL. If all 4 flake then...fml lol. I'm going to be bold and ask them back so that in the event I'm unsuccessful, I'll go to Coco which is open tomorrow night and try my luck there instead of wasting my evening on dates that won't lead anywhere.

Anyone been to Coco recently? The general consensus seems to be that clubs are the best at 10-11... is this still the case ?

Forgot to mention, I've created a standard insta dm and sent it to girls tagged Krakow, filtered to recent and sent it to the girls that I liked the look of. 50 messages resulted in 6 returns and 4 numbers including 3 possible dates (1 flaked). This was all pipelined prior to arrival.

PS - I've noticed guys hating and staring at me when I was in the bar with this Ukrainian chick. Even we when walked out some random guys outside were staring and said something in polish and laughed. Just putting this out there. I don't think Polish guys are fond of foreign, especially black men dating their women (she could easily look Polish).

It is hard to say if exotic look is really an advantage... It is really polarizing.
Some girls told me the same... but in reality it is rather a disavantage with the best looking babes in my experience (at least now, it was not the case 4 years ago)
But if she is the kind of girl who goes to Coco, then she is part of the crowd who is into exotic guys.

I actually got ONS from there but it was like 4 years ago...so it is feasible.

I would recommend you to be careful and go out with other guys. Once I was with an Asian friend and some guy just hit him with no reasons (in the street), I had to separate them and call the police.

My biggest concern is the fact that I'm alone and the night life here makes me anxious as I'm a lone black guy. If I was with 1 or 2 other guys I wouldn't feel as anxious. I'm contemplating on whether I should even go out clubbing tomorrow. Getting jumped and hurt isn't worth some potential pussy.

How did your asian friend get attacked? Was it one guy? Was it in the club?

If anyone is in Krakow and wants to hang PM me please.

Quote: (02-19-2019 06:55 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Anyone been to Coco recently? The general consensus seems to be that clubs are the best at 10-11... is this still the case ?

Wednesday nights in Coco (ladies nights) were pure madness few years ago. Simply epic. It used to be a good spot also for black people because back at the time hip hop and R&B music was predominant there. But in the last couple of years the club had a restyling even in terms of customers and music and on Wednesday and Thursday the club was pretty empty unless there was a special student party.

Checking in to see if anyone is here in Wroclaw long term, if you are let me know, on my 4th year living here and things are chill, im settled into a relationship so can't game but wouldn't mind the extra red pill male company, got some more free time on my hands in the coming months too.

Slide into my dms if anyones about.

Quote: (02-20-2019 03:05 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 06:55 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Anyone been to Coco recently? The general consensus seems to be that clubs are the best at 10-11... is this still the case ?

Wednesday nights in Coco (ladies nights) were pure madness few years ago. Simply epic. It used to be a good spot also for black people because back at the time hip hop and R&B music was predominant there. But in the last couple of years the club had a restyling even in terms of customers and music and on Wednesday and Thursday the club was pretty empty unless there was a special student party.

Thanks Giacomo

Do you know any clubs that are good for Wednesday night's aside from coco? Bear in mind that I'm black so I prefer to avoid racist or dodgy clubs lol. I'm not a huge fan night game but I want to give it a go.

Probably the best bet on Wednesday is in Teatro Cubano, but just make sure to go early: at some point tourists and foreigners will come in waves.

Quote: (02-20-2019 05:15 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

Probably the best bet on Wednesday is in Teatro Cubano, but just make sure to go early: at some point tourists and foreigners will come in waves.

They all open at 22:00. Is 23:00 a good idea then?

Quick update on tinder - 4 dates flaked lol.. they had exams, studies or other sessions.

For comparisons sake, in London I get 20 matches a week after deleting and restarting tinder. In Krakow I get 40 matches in 2 days and more than half are responding. Most convos have moved to what's app but then they flake on the day of meeting... unreal flake rate in Krakow.

There's a lot of brits here and quite a few are from shit towns like Doncaster. An embarassing incident happened today at Auschwitz involving brits.... A side effect of Ryanair and easyjet exporting our chavs to Europe.

The flakes are real here for sure, but I don't think they should be as bad as 4 out of 4.

Did they shit-test you? I.e. ask you how long you are there for or why you came to Krakow/Poland? Best shit to say is you work for corporate X or Y and here for business or short-time deployment - British tourists for a few days in this town don't have a lot of playing room anymore (and honestly; this is not only due to the chavs going for a stag anymore; a lot of the more permanent expats aren't much better).

I think Wednesday is also ladies night in Teatro - my advice is, go on Couchsrufing hangouts, find some guys or even galls to go with to teatro or coco, and once you get to your comfort level separate from the group and go hunt.

Or, just join one of the pubcrawls. You'll be in a group, it'll be less awkward, and if you are lucky some of the girls on there are up for something, or, better yet, some of the pubcrawl guys have some game and can be a decent wing.

I think both would probably more productive than to go to coco or teatro solo. At least more fun.

Quote: (02-20-2019 02:03 PM)JaegerMeester Wrote:  

The flakes are real here for sure, but I don't think they should be as bad as 4 out of 4.

Did they shit-test you? I.e. ask you how long you are there for or why you came to Krakow/Poland? Best shit to say is you work for corporate X or Y and here for business or short-time deployment - British tourists for a few days in this town don't have a lot of playing room anymore (and honestly; this is not only due to the chavs going for a stag anymore; a lot of the more permanent expats aren't much better).

I think Wednesday is also ladies night in Teatro - my advice is, go on Couchsrufing hangouts, find some guys or even galls to go with to teatro or coco, and once you get to your comfort level separate from the group and go hunt.

Or, just join one of the pubcrawls. You'll be in a group, it'll be less awkward, and if you are lucky some of the girls on there are up for something, or, better yet, some of the pubcrawl guys have some game and can be a decent wing.

I think both would probably more productive than to go to coco or teatro solo. At least more fun.

Solid advice. I found a well known pub crawl starting in 30 min.

Jumping on it. Will rep you later!

Will update later about my tinder stories.

Lol @ traveling all the way to East-Europe, in a Former Soviet-Union country, just to go out at a place like cubano teatro or to participate in a pub crawl filled w tourists

Quote: (02-21-2019 08:40 AM)HD668B Wrote:  

Lol @ traveling all the way to East-Europe, in a Former Soviet-Union country, just to go out at a place like cubano teatro or to participate in a pub crawl filled w tourists

Correction: Former Warsaw pact country. Poland is not FSU.

But you are right in your observation regarding the pub crawl and westernlike teatro. Makes no sense to me too.

Quote: (02-21-2019 08:40 AM)HD668B Wrote:  

Lol @ traveling all the way to East-Europe, in a Former Soviet-Union country, just to go out at a place like cubano teatro or to participate in a pub crawl filled w tourists

It's post like these that add 0 value to the forum.

You make a lot of assumptions. Not all of us have the privilege to live in another country for extended periods of time. Who said I travelled all the way there just for a club or a pub crawl? Clearly You didn't see the previous posts. I occupied my day with historical tours and also was working on an online project. I could have done that back in London but i prefee to be in a new country nearby and Krakow was an obvious choice for someone with no prior EE experience. Im also black and on my own so i would naturally go to a place that was well documented for safety reasons.

The pub crawl was because I was on my own and it was a success in getting a bang (not polish but read on). I broke away from the group briefly and got 2 numbers in frantic and 1 make out... but as already mentioned here ONS is hard because girls didn't want to leave their groups. However, IOIs was very real for me and I got way more than I do in London. Anyway, an American 7 that was in the pub crawl was into me. Some random fresh asian dude was trying it with her for a while but she wasn't interested so I danced with her and kissed in 10 minutes (not hard when shes grinding on me lol) decided to escalate with her resulting in the bang. Not polish but still new pussy and a flag for me..

PS, Just had a look at your post history and reps... obvious troll.

^missed the part that you are black.

Yeah, can be tough to go alone to a club with mostly Polish dudes, you can be a potential target for their late night frustrations.

Quote: (02-20-2019 02:03 PM)JaegerMeester Wrote:  

The flakes are real here for sure, but I don't think they should be as bad as 4 out of 4.

Did they shit-test you? I.e. ask you how long you are there for or why you came to Krakow/Poland? Best shit to say is you work for corporate X or Y and here for business or short-time deployment - British tourists for a few days in this town don't have a lot of playing room anymore (and honestly; this is not only due to the chavs going for a stag anymore; a lot of the more permanent expats aren't much better).

I think Wednesday is also ladies night in Teatro - my advice is, go on Couchsrufing hangouts, find some guys or even galls to go with to teatro or coco, and once you get to your comfort level separate from the group and go hunt.

Or, just join one of the pubcrawls. You'll be in a group, it'll be less awkward, and if you are lucky some of the girls on there are up for something, or, better yet, some of the pubcrawl guys have some game and can be a decent wing.

I think both would probably more productive than to go to coco or teatro solo. At least more fun.

Just to add reply to your comments about tinder and shit tests.

Like I said, I have no problem getting matches with 7s and even 8s. Response ratio is good and I found girls give out numbers quickly. The downside was the schedule of these girls. I believe it's exam season which hampers my chances greatly. There's definitely a lot of scepticism naturally from polish girls especially if you initiate a date quickly. I tell them I'm here for work reasons and leave it at that rather than go through some elaborate story.

Will be back here for 3 weeks in 2 months time so this was more of a trip to dip my toes into my first EE country.

Quote: (02-21-2019 08:40 AM)HD668B Wrote:  

Lol @ traveling all the way to East-Europe, in a Former Soviet-Union country, just to go out at a place like cubano teatro or to participate in a pub crawl filled w tourists

+1. Yes, I was that person and I wouldn't recommend anyone to waste their time there.

Especially if we're talking about a black guy rolling solo in Poland. I know Roosh told one of his listeners this on his Roosh Show about this too, Poland is not the best place for a black man.

I think Poland is more a country for finding a LTR than for ONS though.
Sure there are some girls who you can score ONS with, but they're usually not of very high quality. You have easier better-looking sluts elsewhere.

I sensed the girls were usually not that interested if they could sense that I wasn't going to stay in Poland for long, others weren't so interested or comfortable with speaking something else than polish too.

I noticed that there were a few Ukrainian girls in Teatro Cubano who would make out with several different guys (including me) before going home with one. They were now away from family in Ukraine to study so I guess that's why they released the inner slut. But I get turned off by that.

If you want to humiliate yourself to hover all night around a low 6 acting like she was some kind of prize and who have already made out with different tourist dudes, then Teatro Cubano would be the place. But I'd say fuck that.

I saw very few really hot ones out on weekdays in Krakow. If I did they were usually in a big group and hard sets.

Teatro Cubano is a pretty trashy place.

Quote: (02-19-2019 08:00 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 07:38 PM)Sleek2b Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 06:55 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

Update with the Ukrainian girl. She looked exactly like her pics I would rate her 7.5... dressed in red tight dress.

Date went well but to cut to the chase, no bang... she refused to drink which made it harder for me to directly ask her back (usual excuses) and the fact she mentioned a story to me of a french guy who invited her back to his apartment on the 1st date and how she found it off putting. Anyway I noticed she kept looking at my arms during the date lol so I knew she was attracted. I kissed her when her taxi arrived (made an excuse to hold her hand when crossing to build more rapport). She messaged me later to we should go out tomorrow. No bang but I'll need to be patient... I don't know how else I could have handled it.

We spoke about dating life in Poland and she mentioned how Polish girls are really into exotic looking guys. She said that I must have many girls on dates... (ofc didn't tell her most of them flaked lol). But this makes me believe that if I was to stay longer here, I could do well.

Im not relying on her for tomorrow and based on the flakiness so far, i lined up 4 dates (2 from insta dms and 2 from tinder) tomorrow in the assumption that 3 will flake LOL. If all 4 flake then...fml lol. I'm going to be bold and ask them back so that in the event I'm unsuccessful, I'll go to Coco which is open tomorrow night and try my luck there instead of wasting my evening on dates that won't lead anywhere.

Anyone been to Coco recently? The general consensus seems to be that clubs are the best at 10-11... is this still the case ?

Forgot to mention, I've created a standard insta dm and sent it to girls tagged Krakow, filtered to recent and sent it to the girls that I liked the look of. 50 messages resulted in 6 returns and 4 numbers including 3 possible dates (1 flaked). This was all pipelined prior to arrival.

PS - I've noticed guys hating and staring at me when I was in the bar with this Ukrainian chick. Even we when walked out some random guys outside were staring and said something in polish and laughed. Just putting this out there. I don't think Polish guys are fond of foreign, especially black men dating their women (she could easily look Polish).

It is hard to say if exotic look is really an advantage... It is really polarizing.
Some girls told me the same... but in reality it is rather a disavantage with the best looking babes in my experience (at least now, it was not the case 4 years ago)
But if she is the kind of girl who goes to Coco, then she is part of the crowd who is into exotic guys.

I actually got ONS from there but it was like 4 years ago...so it is feasible.

I would recommend you to be careful and go out with other guys. Once I was with an Asian friend and some guy just hit him with no reasons (in the street), I had to separate them and call the police.

My biggest concern is the fact that I'm alone and the night life here makes me anxious as I'm a lone black guy. If I was with 1 or 2 other guys I wouldn't feel as anxious. I'm contemplating on whether I should even go out clubbing tomorrow. Getting jumped and hurt isn't worth some potential pussy.

How did your asian friend get attacked? Was it one guy? Was it in the club?

If anyone is in Krakow and wants to hang PM me please.

Yup!

It was in the street around 11pm (actually close to Frantic). Just one young guy.
Even myself, 190cm white dude, I was hit by a bottle from someone jealous.
I was dancing with a girl and he came from behind.

So shit does happen, you just have to be careful and pay attention to the crowd around you.

So you are back already or you are staying longer?