Quote: (02-07-2019 09:36 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

Wow, what am I reading, are you lot a bunch of sissies or what?

London is highly competitive, just like NYC, its only competitor. You all talk about Asia and EE like it's the answer, it's your downfall as it just shows that your SMV is low, I frequent Russia and other EE countries as I prefer the look not the ease but I never forget the hustle that's required in London as while I'm well off, I'm not a billionaire nor am I a millionaire.

As I can't compete on the ultra rich levels, I put effort into my appearance, my psychical attributes, my ability to dominate and crush the opposition, men are hunters, if you take the easy way (especially if you're banking on white god factor), then you're not worthy of the opportunities London has to offer.

London isn't actually that hard, I get many matches a week on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge, I can easily set up a date a night and I have the occasional fuck without effort, the amount of tourists that pass through looking for a quick fling is unreal, I don't day game as much as I'd like due to work but when I do, I get solid leads (with a few flakes) and I love night game, watch the poor saps pay out £££ and fail while I just do my thing and score.

Bottom line is that if you focus on the easy life in Asia, EE and SA, you'll never do well in London or anywhere where there is true competition, utilise the fight or flight response and fight for what you want!

I bang regularly in London and it has nothing to do with SMV for me. The nightlife in London is shit all proper sausage fests and the girls are turning more and more into instagram and full on prostitution. The plus side is the transient nature with all the tourists who come and go, but the bad things are as clear as day. Banging is easy if you know what you're doing, that doesn't mean it's the place to be or that there aren't better places to live in. There are.

You keep going on about competition and imply that it London is some way superior to Asia, EE and SA. Have you somehow been overtaken by a superiority complexion from living in a big city?

Why would the average man compete in a never ending rat race in cold weather with a shit nightlife with girls who are only looking out for themselves and will anyway divorce you at 80% certainty than go to certain asian country where the girls are not infested by the latest bouts of western social conditioning, are family oriented and actually give a shit about you and have a higher IQ?

Travelling or even living in Asia is not an admission of defeat. There are clear rational reasons for doing so.

If I wanted "true competition" as you call it, I would go live in the jungle and fight apes, rather than convince myself being in one city is better than another just because one is a tier one city and the other is in Asia or South America.

And for the record I have lived in New York and it is far superior for girls and night life in comparison to what's on offer in London.

But I do hope for your sake you stick to London and never travel anywhere again, so you can have your "true competition".

Quote: (02-07-2019 03:35 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

Quote: (02-07-2019 09:36 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

Wow, what am I reading, are you lot a bunch of sissies or what?

London is highly competitive, just like NYC, its only competitor. You all talk about Asia and EE like it's the answer, it's your downfall as it just shows that your SMV is low, I frequent Russia and other EE countries as I prefer the look not the ease but I never forget the hustle that's required in London as while I'm well off, I'm not a billionaire nor am I a millionaire.

As I can't compete on the ultra rich levels, I put effort into my appearance, my psychical attributes, my ability to dominate and crush the opposition, men are hunters, if you take the easy way (especially if you're banking on white god factor), then you're not worthy of the opportunities London has to offer.

London isn't actually that hard, I get many matches a week on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge, I can easily set up a date a night and I have the occasional fuck without effort, the amount of tourists that pass through looking for a quick fling is unreal, I don't day game as much as I'd like due to work but when I do, I get solid leads (with a few flakes) and I love night game, watch the poor saps pay out £££ and fail while I just do my thing and score.

Bottom line is that if you focus on the easy life in Asia, EE and SA, you'll never do well in London or anywhere where there is true competition, utilise the fight or flight response and fight for what you want!

I bang regularly in London and it has nothing to do with SMV for me. The nightlife in London is shit all proper sausage fests and the girls are turning more and more into instagram and full on prostitution. The plus side is the transient nature with all the tourists who come and go, but the bad things are as clear as day. Banging is easy if you know what you're doing, that doesn't mean it's the place to be or that there aren't better places to live in. There are.

You keep going on about competition and imply that it London is some way superior to Asia, EE and SA. Have you somehow been overtaken by a superiority complexion from living in a big city?

Why would the average man compete in a never ending rat race in cold weather with a shit nightlife with girls who are only looking out for themselves and will anyway divorce you at 80% certainty than go to certain asian country where the girls are not infested by the latest bouts of western social conditioning, are family oriented and actually give a shit about you and have a higher IQ?

Travelling or even living in Asia is not an admission of defeat. There are clear rational reasons for doing so.

If I wanted "true competition" as you call it, I would go live in the jungle and fight apes, rather than convince myself being in one city is better than another just because one is a tier one city and the other is in Asia or South America.

And for the record I have lived in New York and it is far superior for girls and night life in comparison to what's on offer in London.

But I do hope for your sake you stick to London and never travel anywhere again, so you can have your "true competition".

Couldn't have put it better myself.

If you look at Bikals post history you can see that he's posted nothing of substance... no decent contribution to the forum. All he's done is criticize and boost his own ego.. yet he has not even dropped a single data sheet lol. Some insecurity there for sure. How long before he is banned lol.

@Kieran

seems you like the mixed race girls, have you been to the Dominican Republic?

Go to the dominican republic, i guarantee you will never talk about london mixed race curly hair girls again. Do you know whats out there on that island? Its one of those things that if you dont know then its impossible to explain, it can only be lived.

When you do that you will not bother with trying to chat up nine different mixed race girls just so the 10th one accepts, who is probably just a 6 once you get past the fact shes light skin

What countries have you been to?

as for "True competition"
My preference is mixed and black girls, in no particular order. And latina as a 3rd option.

Just so you know the mixed race girls in the Dominican Republic look better then the mixed race girls in the UK by a long way. Its not up for debate its an actual fact. so why would i go with an inferior product with a higher barrier of entry, that has a stinkier attitude. Just for the competition. LOL
Dont think im flying to the dominican for an inferior quality of woman. Im tapping libertine quality out there mate. The type that reject men all night

Black girls in the UK overall are not hot in depth, american black women look better, as do the french black women, and there isnt a lot of latinas here. So im not sure why you think Londons the premier division.

London is very far off being premier league, female quality wise, maybe its up there money wise hence why its not in mens favour. CHIC QUALITY POOL is a C+, Money level is A* (favours women)

caucasian (proper english) women 95% of them look like crap. People around the world laugh at english women for there lack of looks, on top of that they age like sour milk. So what exactly is top level about LONDON. Anything that looks good in london comes from foreign land.

If i wanted competition and premier league i would go NYC, LA, Miami and then do proper competition, and crush my male rivals lol

Having a preference for non-White women is as good a reason as any to be disinterested in ever visiting the native habitats for these NW European women. Sometimes I wish I could justifiably believe that for myself; but home and heritage matter too much to ever be at peace with knocking up anything else that would ‘darken the narrative’, so to speak.

This is probably the most depressing thread on rooshv but 100% london is shit for women no doubt about it.
daygame is hard as no one speaks to each other in this isolated city but that's no excuse - i chat up the girls in pret coffee shops, pubs, resturants, street etc, decent european workers there and I like my brunettes.
i do online and even get flaked on basic girls(i cant even be bothered to meet anyway) as not meeting my standards - after travelling mexico s america i've never been the same mentally - like having prime cake then have to be happy with bread and water (i'm irish/english pure bred londoner) going mexico next month will bang double-digits then back to this shitshow to make cash again.

I try to stay positive, so I would rate London for career opportunities and that covers most fields.

Also there are decent nightlife spots if you are into niche things such as blues jazz, although there will be cities doing a lot better in that field.

Martial arts and sports, most of these you can find here, which is something I’ve come to appreciate.

Girls are certainly a big minus, I know a previous poster has said that it just takes a higher level of competition. Personally however it is just rational for me to meet women overseas. And I am not talking about the darkest depths of Siberia here, I actually find France to be a ‘pussy paradise’ compared to this place.

No offence to the black and Asian brothers on this forum, as I am aware that they face challenges here too.

However I think you are at odds with the city if you are into white women. Large swathes of the city are black and Asian. I’m thinking about from Whitechapel to Barking or Kennington to Croydon. There are white enclaves but they mostly consist of middle class hipsters and leftie students.

Nightlife tends to be very aggressive here and overpriced which probably ties into the male v female competition. I’ve seen exceptions to this at certain techno nights and Infernos in Clapham; but overhwhelmingly you’ll be seeing ratios of 10 men for every 1 woman. Throw into that a lot of cocaine (not that I do any of that) overpriced booze and complete utter reprehensible cunts roaming around, and you got an accurate picture of it.

High taxes, high cost of living and very high rent for housing. From a 30K salary you probably taking 2k per month. That’s not tying in pension costs.

To rent a studio, you will be looking at least 1.1K a month. Otherwise you’ll be flat sharing with strangers mostly on 650-700, and that’s not covering council tax. There are no ways around it, move further afield but you’ll have to pay a bomb on commuting in and out.

Most of the time you’ll be living in shit areas as well, and get treated with contempt by the locals who look at you like youre prey if you dress for work.

So I wouldn’t even consider London unless you are on at least 45K. Which is probably a reason why a lot of normal girls moving to London are now turning towards escorting.

Which moves on to a previous point, even with a high salary, you won’t have much success with girls. Even the 6 out of 10 girls new to the city quickly get sponsors or boyfriends, there is an abundance of men making decent salaries in London, who are in relatively good shape and can talk the talk.

Political correctness at work - don’t date female colleagues, it is not worth it, no need to expand on this. Also watch what you say, you need to get into a mindset of a Vice journalist if you are to live in this city. I was supposedly very outspoken in the past and had some enjoyment in having debate or discussion; now I just keep quiet. It’s not worth the hate you get, especially when your career is in line. People here are very sensitive and before you think it’s funny to troll them, i can tell you that it’s not worth it. They don’t operate on the same level and it will just spoil a many of nights.

Crime, the murder rate is actually low in London and lower than it was 15 years ago, but violent crime is still quite high. I genuinely wouldn’t confront people on the streets or on public transportation because there are a lot of mental health cases knocking around and many of them carry knives, that’s not counting the teenage gang members. The court system is in the defendant’s favour in London and false/cross allegations will usually be substantiated nowadays due to a list of reasons that I can’t be bothered to go into.

So basically shut up, pay your taxes and know your place

There's a book by Nassim Talem called Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder. Great book in my opinion, it talks about hardship and adversity and how these give you a thicker skin.

For example if you want to build muscle, you go to the gym, and you push yourself to lift heavier and heavier every time. This is what makes you stronger.

I think the various bullshit you encounter in life makes you a stronger man, and personally I try not to shy away from discomfort and pain as a principle (in game and in business).

At the same time, I firmly believe there is a limit to the amount of bullshit a human can or needs to take. London far exceeds this limit for me. I was happy to endure it for 15 months or so but there was simply no point for me to continue torturing myself there.

The air is seriously polluted. You wake up in the morning, you don't do anything you just exist, and this fucking city is slowly killing you on the background.

The dating market is the most fucked up I've ever seen. 28 yo Investment Bankers on £100.000+ per year chasing after some random 6/10.

Depressing weather. People from completely different and incompatible backgrounds. Rampant violent crime. Overcrowded. Underground system designed 200 years ago for 10m less people.

Basically demand is much more than supply on every single commodity - housing market, pussy, job market etc plus shit weather, pollution, criminality and more.

Unreal place.

“So basically shut up, pay your taxes and know your place”

Doesn’t sound too good.
Can’t you get foreign women? I mean London has a lot of them.

Giama, the Dominican Republic sounds great, I'll have to get around to going over there some time soon.

The problem for me with foreign women is that I'm at a stage where I'd quite like an LTR, and I'd prefer to have one with a woman that I share the same UK culture with and that can fit into my social circles.

Since I’ve been here only dated foreign women. The culture has a way of getting to them, it’s not like they’re in a bubble

Check this video out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...verified=1

This sums up London right now. Situations like this are always 5 seconds from happening, a lot of cunts as one of the posters previosuly said.

London has the worse of the worse.

also this video is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o71V5x1WDqg

Quote: (02-08-2019 11:45 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

Giama, the Dominican Republic sounds great, I'll have to get around to going over there some time soon.

The problem for me with foreign women is that I'm at a stage where I'd quite like an LTR, and I'd prefer to have one with a woman that I share the same UK culture with and that can fit into my social circles.

Fair enough, Just try to get your looks match.

majority of my friends in LTR's are dating down by an average of 2 ratings.

A lot of female 5s in london feel entitled to male 7s.

Quote: (02-10-2019 05:28 AM)giama Wrote:  

Quote: (02-08-2019 11:45 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

Giama, the Dominican Republic sounds great, I'll have to get around to going over there some time soon.

The problem for me with foreign women is that I'm at a stage where I'd quite like an LTR, and I'd prefer to have one with a woman that I share the same UK culture with and that can fit into my social circles.

Fair enough, Just try to get your looks match.

majority of my friends in LTR's are dating down by an average of 2 ratings.

A lot of female 5s in london feel entitled to male 7s.

Facts.

and that female 7 or 8 that you find for a LTR, chances are she wont cook and wont clean. And she can monkey branch to a male 9 at any day

The desperation of men in London is off the charts. At least in cities such as New York the sheer supply of women makes it far less lopsided.

You can get plenty of bangs, but you will definitely meet some absolutely entitled girls even the 6s.

Here is a review of a date that I had a couple of nights ago. She is the first girl in 2-3 months that I didn't bang.

Met her at a nearby tube station. Walked to the bar and ordered some white wine and sat with her on a sofa. Kept teasing her about all sorts of stuff. She was very upfront, told me how she's on several dating sites including Tinder, Bumble and SA for a month and literally goes out on dinner dates every day of the week. She admitted she even had a dinner with another guy before meeting me. She has one the next night as well going to a fancy restaurant, and another the following night.

A 24 year old asian 6.5 at best being taken to top restaurants every night by desperate men. None of whom have banged her.

She actually seemed to be half in to me as I was absolutely tearing into her for calling her out. But then who knows. There was touching here and there and could have probably kissed her in the bar but I usually either kiss at mine or nothing. She kept pushing the initiative, asking me to provide things for her - that I should take her sometime to a members only club, or to other things. I told her I could and laughed at it. She kept mentioning a past boyfriend who she described as basically a beta cuck.

I just left it. She asked for an uber back, I pointed to the train station and walked off.

Quote: (02-10-2019 09:16 AM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

The desperation of men in London is off the charts. At least in cities such as New York the sheer supply of women makes it far less lopsided.

You can get plenty of bangs, but you will definitely meet some absolutely entitled girls even the 6s.

Here is a review of a date that I had a couple of nights ago. She is the first girl in 2-3 months that I didn't bang.

Met her at a nearby tube station. Walked to the bar and ordered some white wine and sat with her on a sofa. Kept teasing her about all sorts of stuff. She was very upfront, told me how she's on several dating sites including Tinder, Bumble and SA for a month and literally goes out on dinner dates every day of the week. She admitted she even had a dinner with another guy before meeting me. She has one the next night as well going to a fancy restaurant, and another the following night.

A 24 year old asian 6.5 at best being taken to top restaurants every night by desperate men. None of whom have banged her.

She actually seemed to be half in to me as I was absolutely tearing into her for calling her out. But then who knows. There was touching here and there and could have probably kissed her in the bar but I usually either kiss at mine or nothing. She kept pushing the initiative, asking me to provide things for her - that I should take her sometime to a members only club, or to other things. I told her I could and laughed at it. She kept mentioning a past boyfriend who she described as basically a beta cuck.

I just left it. She asked for an uber back, I pointed to the train station and walked off.

Yep. thats a bad apple. entitled 6s.

Tinder and Bumble are what females 6s and 6.5s love. A whole lot of validation. she will drop to her knees for a certain type of guy, she sets her bar high for casual sex cos she can.

Easy to spend £100 for dinner and drinks in London.
Good that you didnt take her for dinner. I know one guy who spent £260 on a date, The shard i think it was LOL.

Being aware puts you at a good advantage.

Run for the hills.

There was a time when online dating was seen as a thing creeps and old men do and time changed that stereotype.

There is a stereotype that men that travel to deal with 7s and 8s are old creepy middle aged men, that stereotype will change in a few years.
Young good looking dudes are making the shift too.

I have tons of photos of dominican girls ive smashed and on dates that i would love to post but there is strict rules on the forum

I'm new to London but was hoping to find a LTR. I am also finding it quite difficult to close on foreign girls as it's obvious that the male competition is quite high.

Would anyone recommend touring the smaller cities in the UK (like Leeds, Manchester or Newcastle) to find more receptive women?

I am Australian and probably a 6-7 on looks and 5ft 11. I was hoping the Australian accent might help a bit in these other cities.

Quote: (02-10-2019 09:42 AM)Cman Wrote:  

I'm new to London but was hoping to find a LTR. I am also finding it quite difficult to close on foreign girls as it's obvious that the male competition is quite high.

Would anyone recommend touring the smaller cities in the UK (like Leeds, Manchester or Newcastle) to find more receptive women?

I am Australian and probably a 6-7 on looks and 5ft 11. I was hoping the Australian accent might help a bit in these other cities.

Unless you get lucky you will most probably have to settle for a 5-6, if your happy with that you can find it in London. It does get easier outside London, i cant tell you specifically what city is best for you.

I spent 1.5 year in London while I was no fan of the city it definitely isn’t as dry as guys make it out to be. Quite easy to bang cuties there on a regular, making a rotation of cute chicks isn’t all tbat hard, when you factor in the students and tourist I mean it’s a lot of puss running around there. While in London I lived directly in the center in SoHo

It’s all about EE girls in London

Quote: (02-10-2019 10:38 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

I spent 1.5 year in London while I was no fan of the city it definitely isn’t as dry as guys make it out to be. Quite easy to bang cuties there on a regular, making a rotation of cute chicks isn’t all tbat hard, when you factor in the students and tourist I mean it’s a lot of puss running around there. While in London I lived directly in the center in SoHo

True, I was the first one to spit and take a big shit on London everyday on this forum while living there but I believe for easy pussy it’s still better than Paris, I was having a new chick every 2 or 3 weeks, girls there are more open than in Paris, less stuck up, there are more latinas as well.
But yeah these chicks were incredibly entitled, I was shocked to see warpigs having high expectations but eventually I got used to it and just ignored them.

There used to be plenty of job offers in London in my industry but the Brexit fucked up things big time, the beginning of the economical crisis in China won’t help.
Yeah everything said in this thread is true, the good and bad reviews are all true but London is a world class city, if the industry you work in isn’t fucked up by the Brexit then I still recommend to come, work a few months here, get a network, earn some money then GTFO.

PS: Good hearted traditional girls hate London, they usually don’t stay in this city, the ones who stay are usually the jumped up little shits, the gold diggers, the raging feminists and the career cunts.

Quote: (02-10-2019 01:49 PM)Lino Wrote:  

PS: Good hearted traditional girls hate London, they usually don’t stay in this city, the ones who stay are usually the jumped up little shits, the gold diggers, the raging feminists and the career cunts.

Many angry men on this thread. It's definitely not the city, guys, IT'S YOU. You are just frustrated watching top class pussy in the streets of London and not getting any.
I spent a few months in London a few years ago. It's not that bad. There are ofc requirements which of the guys on this thread cannot meet or will never meet. That's why they heading to shitholes to feel like rock stars. Another illusion.
I read that this Giama guy rotates 8s in London, but he still has time to write novels in this thread. That's unreal.
Guys, seriously, improve yourself and the results will come.
If you don't like London or any other city, just leave, no need to whine like little girls here. My 2 cents, Mr Lino.

Quote: (02-10-2019 02:10 PM)sarcofago Wrote:  

Quote: (02-10-2019 01:49 PM)Lino Wrote:  

PS: Good hearted traditional girls hate London, they usually don’t stay in this city, the ones who stay are usually the jumped up little shits, the gold diggers, the raging feminists and the career cunts.

Many angry men on this thread. It's definitely not the city, guys, IT'S YOU. You are just frustrated watching top class pussy in the streets of London and not getting any.
I spent a few months in London a few years ago. It's not that bad. There are ofc requirements which of the guys on this thread cannot meet or will never meet. That's why they heading to shitholes to feel like rock stars. Another illusion.
I read that this Giama guy rotates 8s in London, but he still has time to write novels in this thread. That's unreal.
Guys, seriously, improve yourself and the results will come.
If you don't like London or any other city, just leave, no need to whine like little girls here. My 2 cents, Mr Lino.

You haven’t been banned yet? I don’t live in London.
Go trolling elsewhere, I probably seduced more hot girls then you’ll ever do.

Edit: « Many angry men on this thread. It's definitely not the city, guys, IT'S YOU. You are just frustrated watching top class pussy in the streets of London and not getting any. »
You’re really hilarious ?

Quote: (02-10-2019 02:21 PM)Lino Wrote:  

You’re really hilarious ?

I'm just trying to be a useful person and a useful contributor. Roosh has changed my life and I'm trying to help him educate sexually his readers. Go read my latest thread 'Masturbate twice before a first date' and thank me later.