Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
No one is saying that asians are inferior. I think you are reading into it too much.
That might be the case, so let's address this idea:
Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
All we have said is that we have empirical evidence that some countries and in this specific case, Sweden ( which is obviously more feminist) is harder for an Asian dude. And this is concluded by this dude and other dudes on the forum previously as well.
What we've got so far is one account of a, I quote,
very short trip and another with an
obvious persecution complex who doesn't seem to have to been to Sweden before, for which I'll address below*.
Two isolated accounts, one of which was gleaned off a brief trip, and another which is based off angry unsubstantiated opinion, doesn't constitute "empirical evidence". Which other guys would you be perhaps referring to as well?
Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
There are other reasons why Sweden or Swedish girls in pariticular is more difficult for an Asian dude of course.
I'm going to call it in black and white and address them here:
The contentions that I seem to be getting are that there is some causal link or corollary effect between feminist or blue-pilled societies and sexual persecution of asian men. While such values don't necessarily even the playing field, it doesn't on the contrary prejudice the character of the asian guy with regards to dating eligibility.
Even though feminist societies may ironically be more likely to favour aesthetically muscular standards of beauty — i.e. tall and jacked — they aren't given to perpetuating one-dimensional stereotypes of races. The idea of racism and discrimination tend to be overlooked or at least skirted around due to their complex relationship with feminism.
Furthermore, the brand of feminism in Europe is different — far less toxic — to what is prevalent in Anglophone countries, where intersectionalist practices have seen progressivism and feminist thought to be far more intrinsically tie in with race, of which it has undergone a far more complex and overt history in the Anglosphere. Asian people in Northern and Western Europe are far, far too few in in comparison to the Anglosphere, that there can be some form of institutionalised "discrimination acceptance ladder" where asians are fair game. This also addresses the subliminal belief I'm reading here whereby people seem to be seeing "feminist western europe" as a carbon copy of the anglosphere.
To sum up, no, I don't believe that there isn't a correlation between the progressive and feminist level of a region, and the level of difficulty for an asian dude, whether received in a negative level or otherwise. Furthermore, those regions are not anywhere near cut from the same cloth as American/the Anglosphere.
Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
This doesn’t mean Norway is hard as well, as the guy had said, he found Norway to be ok.
I've spent enough time either in all the Nordic countries or with women from there, to conclude accurately that there isn't any particular cultural distinction that Sweden holds, again I'm going to be blunt and guess that you're referring to rampant americanisation and feminism.
Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
Again we haven’t seen your empirical evidence on Sweden so how can we even debate on something not tangible? Note we are not talking about Germany here.
I've stated either here or elsewhere on the forum, that I've spent time in Lund, attended the Swedish Open and regatta, and time in Stockholm. Quite a bit more time than the other two guys.
Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
Regarding the traveling abroad for women, Im not sure where have you been in the past few years by saying this is not advocated anywhere on the forum... The most active threads are Philippines (which has over 200 pages now ) and Colombia, and we are not even mentioning other popular threads such as Bangkok, Ukraine, etc.. Again we are just talking about traveling abroad, not even about moving there yet( which you interpreted), even though the latter has substantial amount of threads too.
The critique that I've got isn't so much the
act of travelling abroad for women per se, as much as the rose-coloured glasses belief among some guys — invariably down-and-out on their dating luck, or with some assorte anger at western women — that women in the developing world are somehow more red pill, and consequentially more likely to open their legs for them while closing themselves towards others. This is probably a contrast to the experience they've had back home, where girls where "sluts to others but prudes to them".
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Where one sees such an extreme disenfranchisement with their dating experiences back home, it's likely the problem gravitates more towards them, and makes it extra scornful that they pine for women in the developing world to be far more gracious towards them, given that any dating grievances they've had back home will not only follow them, but indeed exacerbate. There's an idea that if you aren't banging at home, you aren't going to bang overseas. What makes one think that women in Ukraine or China or Venezuela, who grow up in more rawer and harsher environments, won't recognise dating unfortunates from home and instead "love them for who they are"?
Quote: (02-04-2019 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:
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WT3, have you spent significant time in "western europe"? Enough time to objectively say that in comparison, pussy will rain from the heavens in Latin American, EE, Africa and Asia just because "there (sic) more red pill and will appreciate me for who they are"?
Furthermore, because of an underlying current of whineging on the forum in general, I think the what a guy is bringing to the table has to be considered as qualification as well. I dress well, speak perfect, unaccented English (maybe the Australian accent is a DHV here
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), am furthermore willing to pick up the language of my host country, am 184 cm tall with a muscular frame, and am involved in lots of very "white-person" pursuits.
If a skinny-fat slob were to report bad dating experiences, then that's pretty skewed data.
I've already argued that the idea of asian guys being genetically unable to build muscle or bone is a complete myth.