Can we please move the race war somewhere else? I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed, but there are plenty of other threads for that.

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:15 AM)Horus Wrote:  

Can we please move the race war somewhere else? I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed, but there are plenty of other threads for that.

Yes, I agree, it would certainly be inappropriate in the thread where two white girls are decapitated by Muslims while crying for their mother on camera. It's not like their is a Muslim invasion of Europe going on presently or anything of the sort. I certainly wouldn't want to offend anyone. Is there a designated area for this sort of speech?

Thread was defacto racially charged from the getgo. I mean why else were these women targeted for other than being blonde euros?

Of course IRTs like rorogue coming in here claiming whites are evolutionarily unfit just poured gasoline on the fire.

Quote: (12-21-2018 04:44 AM)durangotang Wrote:  

If you feel your morality is superior than you should conquer your enemy and impose your moral order upon them,....

I reject the immoral order ((they)) wish to impose upon me yet I do not wish to conquer and impose my morality upon them. If you choose to live amongst us, then it is expected you respect our sovereignty and moral order. Eroding and usurping the societies that sustain you believing you're their godly superiors is basically admitting Hitler was right to wish to expel would be ((conquers))) from his nation and alert the world to their intent.

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:30 AM)Aszhaeleos Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 04:44 AM)durangotang Wrote:  

If you feel your morality is superior than you should conquer your enemy and impose your moral order upon them,....

I reject the immoral order ((they)) wish to impose upon me yet I do not wish to conquer and impose my morality upon them. If you choose to live amongst us, then it is expected you respect our sovereignty and moral order. Eroding and usurping the societies that sustain you believing you're their godly superiors is basically admitting Hitler was right to wish to expel would be ((conquers))) from his nation and alert the world to their intent.

And what if Hitler was right?






I am afraid it's not that sort of world Aszhaeleos. Life isn't fair. Little good it's going to do you to complain to the parasite in your body that it's robs you of vital energy and you may die. You either deliver the necessary remedy or you suffer the consequences and in that there's justice.

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:25 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

Thread was defacto racially charged from the getgo. I mean why else were these women targeted for other than being blonde euros?

Of course IRTs like rorogue coming in here claiming whites are evolutionarily unfit just poured gasoline on the fire.

That's more specifically what I was talking about.

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:53 AM)Horus Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:25 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

Thread was defacto racially charged from the getgo. I mean why else were these women targeted for other than being blonde euros?

Of course IRTs like rorogue coming in here claiming whites are evolutionarily unfit just poured gasoline on the fire.

That's more specifically what I was talking about.

IRTs = internet race trolls?

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/IRT

Quote: (12-21-2018 01:36 AM)mickeyd Wrote:  

Alot of yall are acting like they went to the slums of central africa drunk and high in a bikini loaded with cash.

They basically did exactly that. Since when do the High Atlas mountains have a safer reputation than central Africa? To ignorant people, since there was some tourist investment 10 years ago, I guess.

One of the surprising things I've discovered in this thread is that people seem to think that Morocco is just another tourist destination slightly more exotic than Spain.

I'm aware that it has a huge tourist trade these days, but this is North Africa. It (very recently) had a very dubious reputation as the sort of place to go for all sorts of illicit things (drugs, pedophilia) and as precisely the kind of place that people disappear when they step off the brightly lit street.

I assumed this view of Morocco as a sketchy place was general knowledge. Specifically, the High Atlas mountains are a remote place full of inbred people only a generation removed from the first roads and electricity being put through.

Millennials have sadly failed to inherit common sense, general knowledge and traditional wisdom from their elders. And the results are as we have seen.

This thread has done a good job of demonstrating the amount of crazy, incel losers we now have on Roosh forum.

Op you should not have linked that video to this forum. Fine to talk about it, but we dont want fucked up shit like that view-able in here.

Quote: (12-21-2018 06:01 AM)moneyshot Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:53 AM)Horus Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:25 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

Thread was defacto racially charged from the getgo. I mean why else were these women targeted for other than being blonde euros?

Of course IRTs like rorogue coming in here claiming whites are evolutionarily unfit just poured gasoline on the fire.

That's more specifically what I was talking about.

IRTs = internet race trolls?

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/IRT

Indian race troll.

Delete

Another woman talking about her experience solo travelling in Morocco:

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However, I was so frustrated that the local men I met acted in a way that made my trip far less enjoyable.

I’m frequently contacted by women who feel that same pull as I did to visit Morocco, but who have also been put off by the negative articles and sexual harassment horror stories. They contact me looking for reassurance, wanting advice, and looking for information on how to have a safe, trouble-free trip.

The problem is I didn’t have a trouble-free trip, and I can’t offer reassurance that travelling through Morocco will be easy

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Within a few hours of arriving in this seaside port, I had a man following me out of the medina and asking me questions over and over — occasionally in English, mostly in French. I answered a few, but kept my head down, and tried to get away from him. I had learned by now that some responses were enough to keep the men from getting angry, but to keep my interaction to a minimum in order to keep them from getting too close.

When he continued to follow me to I suddenly had hassle from men in the street, too — telling me they liked my “American tits”, whispering in French in my ear and then calling me a whore when I hurried away.
I have to mentioned that I completely covered up and couldn’t have worn any more layers at this point, beyond throwing a blanket over myself. I was avoiding eye contact and not engaging with anybody — I don’t know what else I could have done to not attract attention. I could no longer sit and enjoy a meal without several men sitting down with me and trying to convince me to go back to their house for a “local experience”.
the steps of my hotel, I panicked and began to run. I just wanted to get to my room and away from this stranger.

It was then that I felt a cold, hard blow to the head.

He had thrown a rock at me.

Holding the back of my head and running for my hotel, I shut myself in my room, jumped online and booked a ticket back home to London for the following morning.

I was done with Morocco.

https://www.neverendingfootsteps.com/tra...lo-female/

Quote: (12-21-2018 06:06 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 01:36 AM)mickeyd Wrote:  

Alot of yall are acting like they went to the slums of central africa drunk and high in a bikini loaded with cash.

They basically did exactly that. Since when do the High Atlas mountains have a safer reputation than central Africa? To ignorant people, since there was some tourist investment 10 years ago, I guess.

One of the surprising things I've discovered in this thread is that people seem to think that Morocco is just another tourist destination slightly more exotic than Spain.

I'm aware that it has a huge tourist trade these days, but this is North Africa. It (very recently) had a very dubious reputation as the sort of place to go for all sorts of illicit things (drugs, pedophilia) and as precisely the kind of place that people disappear when they step off the brightly lit street.

I assumed this view of Morocco as a sketchy place was general knowledge. Specifically, the High Atlas mountains are a remote place full of inbred people only a generation removed from the first roads and electricity being put through.

Millennials have sadly failed to inherit common sense, general knowledge and traditional wisdom from their elders. And the results are as we have seen.

Again, I take it you're not from Europe.

Morocco yes has always had that slightly seedy rep of hashish and agressive peddlers in the bazaars. But it's been a playground for Euros for decades, and a very safe one at that. Spain still has colonial possessions there. My parents use to take the ferry over from their vacation home in Spain all the time, my mother sometimes just with her girlfriends. Was considered very normal.

I don't think most of us would allow our daughters to go there solo, but the membership here is a tad more familiar with the fetishization of white/blonde women in the 3rd world than the general public I imagine.

Quote: (12-21-2018 01:36 AM)mickeyd Wrote:  

fucking disgusting. take down the gore link. people know where to find it if they really want to see what happened.

They did not "get what they deserved". Their deaths are extremely tragic and depressing. Alot of yall are acting like they went to the slums of central africa drunk and high in a bikini loaded with cash.

They were very naive women in a dangerous situation that they did not understand until it was too late. Yes its ironic that they were likely liberal open border types that were brutally beheaded by the people they would welcome as refugees. It doesn't need to be interpreted any deeper than that.

If you tell me you have never done something stupid that almost got you killed, I'd say you're a liar.

I reiterate, the video should not be taken down. We are in the grip of a "helicopter media" era, just as insidious as the helicopter parenting of children.

The media not only presents PC talking points ad nauseam, it also dumbs down audiences and desensitizes them to the reality of their world.

For example, if Chicago news channels bothered to show the splattered blood and lifeless body of a child killed in a gang shootout (or merely a limb or two sticking out from under a tarpaulin or from a body bag), the cancerous, fake material spread by Black Lives Matter would be far less mainstream and we might start to see proper reductions of child and other gang killings.

Videos like the Moroccan killings should be shown on the nightly news at 6pm and every other bulletin thereafter until the morning. Those of us who want to see the video disseminated are preaching to the converted in regards to those of you who want to see it taken down.

To a name, all of you objecting are sensible and reasonable men. The vast majority of people in the West are not sensible politically, including both the leftists and moderates/apoliticals.

People are incredibly dumb nowadays and no amount of logic or reason is working on them. Reality needs to be visceral for them.

I come from Australia. We are called a "world leader" for things like safety and health advertising, graphically showing the effects of smoking on lungs, toes, brains, for example.

But the governments here never have the balls to do advertisements about car crashes and the problems with drink driving, sleep deprivation and speeding, other than pathetic insinuations of what happens or a tame still of a dead person. They should instead be showing bodies cleaved in two, unrecognizable faces after blunt force trauma etc.

Their anti-street violence campaigns also suck. They use silly slo-mo or fast-forward videos of people thinking about the consequences if they strike someone else, rather than realistic reenactments of someone having their head cracked open by a pavement.

Things need to be emotional and in people's faces for them to understand.

^^^ Agreed.

I forced myself to watch a bunch of ISIS executions at one point to see just what kind of animals we're dealing with. They're subhuman slime who get a thrill out of murdering people in the most unimaginable of ways.

As far as I'm concerned Islam is nothing but a backwards death cult championing ignorance, retrogression, and death.

I am a bit surprised by some reactions on this forum, I mean what did you expect ?
Women are overgrown children, they have no clue.
I fucked hundreds of them, and do you know what I did to the first one who showed some accountability ? I married her.
10 years and everything going fine, thank you.

Also we have two children, and here is what I think :
They will experiment, and do stupid things, and they need a safe environment for this.
What women understand with this is an environment in which they cannot endanger themselves.
This is stupid of course, as a man you know it means an environment in which they can put themselves at risk (because they will anyway), but in which they can fail safely.

These two poor women made their experiments, failed, and paid for it with their lives.
This is a huge parenting fail.

Their parents should never have been able to propagate their genes.
Them saying they wouldn't have done anything differently and they're afraid to be seen as racists shows this.
Their children dying is the direct consequence of their actions (or lack thereof).
This is just nature correcting things.

r-selected rearing with K-selected fertility rate leads to your genes being removed from the pool.
It certainly makes me very sad - but nobody can beat evolution.

Also, please keep that video online if possible.
It's just a link, we are all adults here, don't click on it if you don't want to see things you might regret.
Come on do I even have to say this now ..

TLDR no white-knighting, but you have to be realistic at some point.

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:05 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

^^^ Agreed.

I forced myself to watch a bunch of ISIS executions at one point to see just what kind of animals we're dealing with. They're subhuman slime who get a thrill out of murdering people in the most unimaginable of ways.

As far as I'm concerned Islam is nothing but a backwards death cult championing ignorance, retrogression, and death.

I don't disagree.

But in the cases of ISIS, it's quite likely a joint CIA-Mossad op to justify interventionism in the M.E.

The production values of their videos are too good for illiterate jihadis. Then there's the fact that Israel has been treating wounded ISIS fighters and giving them free rides back to the front lines. Or the fact the U.S has armed them while proclaiming they're moderate syrian rebels.

We can lump Judaism into the conversation as well. The torah and talmud give the koran a run for its money as far as barbarity is concerned. It it weren't for the light shined upon them by Western civilization for two millenia, Jews woudn't be that recognizably different from Muslims. You can see that with haredis/hasidics today.

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:24 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I don't disagree.

But in the cases of ISIS, it's quite likely a joint CIA-Mossad op to justify interventionism in the M.E.

The production values of their videos are too good for illiterate jihadis. Then there's the fact that Israel has been treating wounded ISIS fighters and giving them free rides back to the front lines. Or the fact the U.S has armed them while proclaiming they're moderate syrian rebels.

We can lump Judaism into the conversation as well. The torah and talmud give the koran a run for its money as far as barbarity is concerned. It it weren't for the light shined upon them by Western civilization for two millenia, Jews woudn't be that recognizably different from Muslims. You can see that with haredis/hasidics today.

Indeed.

ISIS is a reaction to our meddling no doubt. I was speaking of Islam as a cause and the way a certain percentage of their adherents, ISIS or no ISIS, behave as an inevitable result.

I wrote a big post and then deleted it but the basic gist was that Euro culture is responsible for ending slavery by FORCING an end to it (at great expense to the British navy in particular), ending the backwards way of life in Japan by forcing them to open to foreign trade (and therefore the knowledge which they so readily took and improved upon in many cases), designing and building all of the oil extraction technology for the likes of the Saudis (who were bums before we arrive and which they then nationalized and used to dictate world affairs), and the list goes on and on.

And still women get the vote and lead countries. Democracy is so overrated.

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:43 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:24 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I don't disagree.

But in the cases of ISIS, it's quite likely a joint CIA-Mossad op to justify interventionism in the M.E.

The production values of their videos are too good for illiterate jihadis. Then there's the fact that Israel has been treating wounded ISIS fighters and giving them free rides back to the front lines. Or the fact the U.S has armed them while proclaiming they're moderate syrian rebels.

We can lump Judaism into the conversation as well. The torah and talmud give the koran a run for its money as far as barbarity is concerned. It it weren't for the light shined upon them by Western civilization for two millenia, Jews woudn't be that recognizably different from Muslims. You can see that with haredis/hasidics today.

Indeed.

ISIS is a reaction to our meddling no doubt. I was speaking of Islam as a cause and the way a certain percentage of their adherents, ISIS or no ISIS, behave as an inevitable result.

That isn't what I said. I said there's a strong body of evidence that shows ISIS is a western backed militant organization whose atrocities are being used to justify more wars in the M.E.

The brunt of their attacks have been against Syria and Iran, while leaving the Saudis, Turks, and Israelis (the sworn enemies of Islam) alone. It's a very curious situation.

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I wrote a big post and then deleted it but the basic gist was that Euro culture is responsible for ending slavery by FORCING an end to it (at great expense to the British navy in particular), ending the backwards way of life in Japan by forcing them to open to foreign trade (and therefore the knowledge which they so readily took and improved upon in many cases), designing and building all of the oil extraction technology for the likes of the Saudis (who were bums before we arrive and which they then nationalized and used to dictate world affairs), and the list goes on and on.

Yep, we Euros have a nasty habit of liberating, empowering, and enriching 3rd world ingrates who end up becoming our mortal enemies. I don't think any other people has such a self-destructive track record like that. It's unhinged altruism.

I wish we were more like Israel frankly. Border walls,tanks, and a shameless ethno state.

I DONT CARE about race, this is scary because the vast majority of people in America or even western countries are inexperienced on how to survive. Even with a government that seems not to care, we are spoiled and sheltered.

News outlets shouldn't necessarily show the video but they should talk about the severity of these girls actions! There are people out there that DO NOT like us.

Survival needs to be taught at school, people need to learn about bad people. THEY NEED TO KNOW THEY EXIST in all shapes and colors.

Maybe its too late but to the men on this forum please learn from this and prepare. Not for war, not for invasion, but for the slight chance that something like this could be in your future.

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:15 AM)Horus Wrote:  

Can we please move the race war somewhere else? I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed, but there are plenty of other threads for that.

+1000

I do not agree with everything you said about the relative safety of Morocco. That said, I second the need to avoid yet another forum race war.

Raising Third World migration to the West in the context of this thread is fine, but some have taken it too far.

It would be fantastic to have more threads where people do not talk about the Jews in relation to their supposed grand schemes.

Even odds now that someone will come along imminently and call me a Zionist shill, a Finkelstein or a Milchzuckerbierberg.

Quote: (12-21-2018 10:48 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 05:15 AM)Horus Wrote:  

Can we please move the race war somewhere else? I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed, but there are plenty of other threads for that.

It would be fantastic to have more threads where people do not talk about the Jews in relation to their supposed grand schemes.

Even odds now that someone will come along imminently and call me a Zionist shill, a Finkelstein or a Milchzuckerbierberg.

Ah man, that got a chuckle out of me.

Agree there's too much jew chatter. I'm contrarian on this but I think Israel could actually be an ally of the alt right in some way, as they were with the Afrikaaners. Started another thread about that in the politics forum so as not to derail.

It`s up to the mods/Roosh I guess, whether we should allow links to sites like best-gore on the forum. Personally I think it`s acceptable in certain circumstances to link to such sites, if the video or images in question are an essential part of the story.

Before I saw these vids, I was also of the impression that the women had stab wounds to the neck. This was the medias angle prior to the video coming out after all. In other words, you got a totally false impression of what actually happened. So it was ultimately informing to see them, or at least to know what really happened.

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:05 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

^^^ Agreed.

I forced myself to watch a bunch of ISIS executions at one point to see just what kind of animals we're dealing with. They're subhuman slime who get a thrill out of murdering people in the most unimaginable of ways.

As far as I'm concerned Islam is nothing but a backwards death cult championing ignorance, retrogression, and death.

Good for you.

Your consciousness just raised a point.



While you're at it, if you have the stomach, have a go at the Mexican Cartel torture vids where they skin people alive. They are always fun.

No snark.

I'm making a serious point.

If you need a video to show man's inhumanity to man, you don't have much of an imagination. Some things should not be seen. Some things can not be unseen.

I'm not playing forum police man here. The link is still up. I guess it's a grey area. It makes no difference to me anyway as I won't watch it.

But if it's fair game, let's post a few more. Then we can really see man's inhumanity to man. It might enlighten you. It might give you nightmares. Or it might merely spoil your day.

Lots of sites on the net where you can see gore. Liveleak and all that. Motherless. Bestgore.

Knock yourself out.

But if you take this journey, don't half-ass it. Go the whole hog. See what man's inhumanity to man can really entail. It gets a lot worse than just lopping someone's head off. Watch it done to a child. A baby. I dare you!

Wasn't directing this rant at you Vincent.

But as for ISIS. Trained and paid for by the UK/USA Globohomo complex. Your tax dollars at work. Propaganda has shifted a notch or two in the 21st Century, [current year].

These girls reaped the whirlwind of their ideas, whose time had very much come. It's tragic, it's a statistical outlier. But it's also not surprising. Naseem Taleb might have something to say about that.


No one needs gore. Especially not the most intelligent men of our species. Vincent, looking at you. It didn't make you a better man. It didn't enlighten you. It just left a dark recess in your mind where a bit of light could have shined. That has gone now. It won't be coming back. Extinguished.

To watch the suffering of another human being is the worst kind of voyeurism. Those that call it 'educational' or claim it makes them 'more whole' are wrong.

For those of you that did watch it:

How did it improve your understanding of human suffering? Exactly what do you know now that you did not know before?

Have at it. There's a cornucopia of this stuff out there for those that seek enlightenment.

One thing I know, men that have been to war and seen this stuff in real life, don't look this shit up on the internet. Not if they are healing.

Why is that?


Keep the link up in defiance.

You have made your point. You have your stance.

And some of us have ours.


For every deep philosophical post that talks about 'inversion', we have this beacon of shining light in to the darkness...


Drink deep from the well, my brothers.

But you can never say you weren't warned.

I wish you well, anyway.


To quote an old friend: "You need to find your own way out".

I'll see you on the other side.