Think the biggest factor for mine with Australian women is actually the men. Australian men are significantly better looking than Australian women, we're a very alpha country, with massive emphasis on physical appearance and strength for the men which means the average Australian male is attractive. The end game of this is that the Australian women have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men, it's pretty standard for Australian men to be dating down 2-3 points on the scale which obviously has all women inflating their value.

The other negative is that the women are incredibly blokey, Australian women are actually one of the few who make good "mates", it's easy to be friends with Australian women but they're thoroughly lacking in femininity on the whole and it's one of the most feminist infested hives you'll find, partly because the price of housing has essentially forced women to all have careers as well, but there is definitely a plague of feminism. Every time I go home it feels worse as well.

There are plenty of physically attractive women, the good ones will age fine and as it's such a multi-cultural country you've got most looks covered but as far as game destinations I would put Australia incredibly low on the list, you can find a perfectly good sample of Australian women just by hitting any of the backpacker paths (SEA, LA, Europe) as they travel a ton and you can do it without the exorbitant cost of Australia or the competition of the Australian men (which as has been mentioned, is fierce), Australian guys traveling are generally over Australian girls and will target others if they can find it. Having said that, if you're black and well built with either an American or British accent and can put up with plenty of racism then Australia is a great gaming target as that's basically "exotic" look that we don't have a lot of and thus does very well with the current rap culture only aiding it.

Quote: (12-09-2018 08:09 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

Think the biggest factor for mine with Australian women is actually the men. Australian men are significantly better looking than Australian women, we're a very alpha country, with massive emphasis on physical appearance and strength for the men which means the average Australian male is attractive. The end game of this is that the Australian women have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men, it's pretty standard for Australian men to be dating down 2-3 points on the scale which obviously has all women inflating their value.

The other negative is that the women are incredibly blokey, Australian women are actually one of the few who make good "mates", it's easy to be friends with Australian women but they're thoroughly lacking in femininity on the whole and it's one of the most feminist infested hives you'll find, partly because the price of housing has essentially forced women to all have careers as well, but there is definitely a plague of feminism. Every time I go home it feels worse as well.

There are plenty of physically attractive women, the good ones will age fine and as it's such a multi-cultural country you've got most looks covered but as far as game destinations I would put Australia incredibly low on the list, you can find a perfectly good sample of Australian women just by hitting any of the backpacker paths (SEA, LA, Europe) as they travel a ton and you can do it without the exorbitant cost of Australia or the competition of the Australian men (which as has been mentioned, is fierce), Australian guys traveling are generally over Australian girls and will target others if they can find it. Having said that, if you're black and well built with either an American or British accent and can put up with plenty of racism then Australia is a great gaming target as that's basically "exotic" look that we don't have a lot of and thus does very well with the current rap culture only aiding it.

I have yet to go to Australia but agree on everything.

From my trips through Europe, Australian girls seem to be prettier than average, but lack femininity and are too much into partying, ssomething I dont like it as much.

They seem to love black guys and Im not sure if they like southern europeans like me or not, but feel most of them enjoy british guys.

The main problem is the Australian men competition which is insane as most of their males are above average in the looks department and normally are well built and tall and arent socially inept which makes it pratically impossible for a guy like me trying to game near them.

Overall I try to stay away from either Australian women and men as it yields better results for me.

Quote: (12-09-2018 08:09 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

Think the biggest factor for mine with Australian women is actually the men. Australian men are significantly better looking than Australian women, we're a very alpha country, with massive emphasis on physical appearance and strength for the men which means the average Australian male is attractive. The end game of this is that the Australian women have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men, it's pretty standard for Australian men to be dating down 2-3 points on the scale which obviously has all women inflating their value.

The other negative is that the women are incredibly blokey, Australian women are actually one of the few who make good "mates", it's easy to be friends with Australian women but they're thoroughly lacking in femininity on the whole and it's one of the most feminist infested hives you'll find, partly because the price of housing has essentially forced women to all have careers as well, but there is definitely a plague of feminism. Every time I go home it feels worse as well.

There are plenty of physically attractive women, the good ones will age fine and as it's such a multi-cultural country you've got most looks covered but as far as game destinations I would put Australia incredibly low on the list, you can find a perfectly good sample of Australian women just by hitting any of the backpacker paths (SEA, LA, Europe) as they travel a ton and you can do it without the exorbitant cost of Australia or the competition of the Australian men (which as has been mentioned, is fierce), Australian guys traveling are generally over Australian girls and will target others if they can find it. Having said that, if you're black and well built with either an American or British accent and can put up with plenty of racism then Australia is a great gaming target as that's basically "exotic" look that we don't have a lot of and thus does very well with the current rap culture only aiding it.

I've spent a decent amount of time in Oz and met plenty of Aussies on holiday in SEA and Europe. This is 100% spot on, and well put.

The one thing I'd add is Aussie women on holiday are extremely easy if you fit their type of muscles, tanned, banter-y high energy etc - but aren't Australian yourself. It makes you physically what they're hard wired to like after growing up Oz, but also foreign enough that they don't feel like they're wasting their holiday experience "exotic opportunity" hooking up with you.

Quote: (12-09-2018 08:09 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

Think the biggest factor for mine with Australian women is actually the men. Australian men are significantly better looking than Australian women, we're a very alpha country, with massive emphasis on physical appearance and strength for the men which means the average Australian male is attractive. The end game of this is that the Australian women have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men, it's pretty standard for Australian men to be dating down 2-3 points on the scale which obviously has all women inflating their value.

The other negative is that the women are incredibly blokey, Australian women are actually one of the few who make good "mates", it's easy to be friends with Australian women but they're thoroughly lacking in femininity on the whole and it's one of the most feminist infested hives you'll find, partly because the price of housing has essentially forced women to all have careers as well, but there is definitely a plague of feminism. Every time I go home it feels worse as well.

There are plenty of physically attractive women, the good ones will age fine and as it's such a multi-cultural country you've got most looks covered but as far as game destinations I would put Australia incredibly low on the list, you can find a perfectly good sample of Australian women just by hitting any of the backpacker paths (SEA, LA, Europe) as they travel a ton and you can do it without the exorbitant cost of Australia or the competition of the Australian men (which as has been mentioned, is fierce), Australian guys traveling are generally over Australian girls and will target others if they can find it. Having said that, if you're black and well built with either an American or British accent and can put up with plenty of racism then Australia is a great gaming target as that's basically "exotic" look that we don't have a lot of and thus does very well with the current rap culture only aiding it.

This is the best breakdown of Australian women I've ever read, and completely matches my experience.

Great work.

Quote: (12-09-2018 08:09 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

Think the biggest factor for mine with Australian women is actually the men. Australian men are significantly better looking than Australian women, we're a very alpha country, with massive emphasis on physical appearance and strength for the men which means the average Australian male is attractive. The end game of this is that the Australian women have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men, it's pretty standard for Australian men to be dating down 2-3 points on the scale which obviously has all women inflating their value.

The other negative is that the women are incredibly blokey, Australian women are actually one of the few who make good "mates", it's easy to be friends with Australian women but they're thoroughly lacking in femininity on the whole and it's one of the most feminist infested hives you'll find, partly because the price of housing has essentially forced women to all have careers as well, but there is definitely a plague of feminism. Every time I go home it feels worse as well.

There are plenty of physically attractive women, the good ones will age fine and as it's such a multi-cultural country you've got most looks covered but as far as game destinations I would put Australia incredibly low on the list, you can find a perfectly good sample of Australian women just by hitting any of the backpacker paths (SEA, LA, Europe) as they travel a ton and you can do it without the exorbitant cost of Australia or the competition of the Australian men (which as has been mentioned, is fierce), Australian guys traveling are generally over Australian girls and will target others if they can find it. Having said that, if you're black and well built with either an American or British accent and can put up with plenty of racism then Australia is a great gaming target as that's basically "exotic" look that we don't have a lot of and thus does very well with the current rap culture only aiding it.

Pretty much nailed it. I've met a lot of Aussie guys from travelling and dated an Aussie chick in the past. It's almost as if the guys naturally are quite 'red pill', they're all into the gym and lifting weights, they all are naturally outdoorsy people and for most of the guys I've met, they seem to have on a whole, avoided the university culture trap. With many choosing to go into trades and earn quite big money from a young age. Lots of the guys I met travelling were purely doing so on savings, some with upwards of $60,000 in savings before their mid 20s. I guess the mining economy can take a lot of credit in maintaining 'mens' jobs in that country. In the UK for example you pretty much have to bite the soy bullet and sell out to a beta corporate office if you are to 'make it'.

I lived in Australia for 13 years and throughout my high school/college years.


Australian women are very masculine and age terribly. I have seen first hand how they age. They peak in high school. By age 24 they look 30. By age 30 they look 45. They age terribly and I think this is why they are very career oriented. It means they wont be frantically scrambling to find a partner by 24. They also all dress the same for some reason. It's like they all follow the same instagram fashion white girl channel. Their bodies are very average. Many are getting boob jobs in the past 5 years. They can afford it I guess. This is however not addressing how they have poor thickness and no ass. Very non symmetrical bodies from the side.

In short. I would never settle long term with an Australian girl. I don't want to have to deal with how terribly they age. I'm settling with black women from my culture

Is the Australian Media exaggerating how bad these African gangs are fucking the country up or is it really that bad? Do Australians now have a worse perception of blacks including black Americans cause of this, like has this made gaming harder? ABC Australia dropped this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGp4jHrfKfE&t girl says she is now scared of all black people ffs

Quote: (12-10-2018 03:00 PM)kadenz Wrote:  

Is the Australian Media exaggerating how bad these African gangs are fucking the country up or is it really that bad? Do Australians now have a worse perception of blacks including black Americans cause of this, like has this made gaming harder? ABC Australia dropped this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGp4jHrfKfE&t girl says she is now scared of all black people ffs

"African gangs" what a load of shit..It ain't Africans its one African nationality who fight inter tribally..I'm Coloured Sth African it ain't us or the Zims ,Kenyans etc it's the Sudanese who are racist themselves to any other cunt.I use to drink with some Kenyans who have the same opinion as me


Blacks always mixed in Oz that includers Islanders etc but the Sudanese changed that.They fight all other blacks the Islanders hate them.Islanders are essy going dudes usually and take alot to rile them up

African gangs is a leftist term to spread it on all Africans in Oz...And the Sudanese were not brought in by left leaning parties they were brought in by Conservative parties..Go figure

Shits tribal there is no AFRICAN problem there is a Sudanese problem..they don't date between themselves tribal wise still.
I've met Sudo dudes complaining about this but they are dragged down by the tribe.

Put it this way the only racist attack Ive had on myself was by Sudanese who don't respect that I'm from Africa..I'm too white looking....Bouncers have had to come and haul me out of a club due to death threats by Sudanese..unbelievable and I was born under Apartheid..

They attack mainly Asian students and Indians no one talks about this.Also they have zero respect for people with a disabilities and pick on them..for instance people with Down syndrome..

The fuckers try to home invade my cousins place while his wife of Indian origin and baby boy were there alone..No respect


Black US dudes want nothing to do with them here in Oz they tell me.Black US ,Brits and French will only get issues from the Sudanese they won't get it from the rest of us..

I never watch the ABC ...fake news

Quote: (12-10-2018 03:00 PM)kadenz Wrote:  

Is the Australian Media exaggerating how bad these African gangs are fucking the country up or is it really that bad? Do Australians now have a worse perception of blacks including black Americans cause of this, like has this made gaming harder? ABC Australia dropped this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGp4jHrfKfE&t girl says she is now scared of all black people ffs

If you're gaming left-leaning university students it may be even easier, since they have a very positive view of black immigrants. They tend to view the media coverage as highly exaggerated and racially motivated, aimed at scapegoating all refugees (whom they adore) for the crimes of a tiny minority.

For those girls who do believe that Africans are violent, perhaps this might also be beneficial - after all, there is a long history of women being drawn to men they perceive as being dangerous.

*Caution - don't read the following unless you can handle black pills.

As someone who has lived in Australia most of their life, and been to Europe, EE, Scandinavia, Russia, the US and parts of SEA, I'd say this about Australia with 100% certainty:

Girls - the best looking girls here are as good, if not better, than any girl from any country in the world. Australia has the best natural looking girls (without makeup etc.) in the world no question (these girls get into sports and surf life saving from a young age).
Having said that, the gap between the best looking girls and the worst, is gigantic. There's plenty of overweight girls here and very average or below average girls here too.

Game - access to the best looking local girls in Australia is the biggest problem. Social circle and 'who you know' is huge for Australian girls. The top girls are very cliquey (they are taught this from the culture and from school at a young age) and close minded to anyone outside their circles.
You can perhaps get a mentally damaged 8 every once in a while through heavy gaming (takes time investment though), but it's essentially impossible to get a 9 or 10 (or 8's with any consistency) unless you are in their social circles, or you have insane value yourself.
You MIGHT do well if you are a foreigner purely because of the exotic/niche factor - but if you look average, expect average in return.

I actually think your best chance of getting a good looking girl in Australia is to go for travellers, students and foreign girls here. I know guys that have lots of time up their sleeve that do well with this purely by gaming around the big cities like Melbourne and Sydney (where you get a big transient crowd), but it takes a big time investment. You can also do this around universities, and at events.

Nightclubs here are mostly expensive and very competitive - you're better off running day game, street game, and event type game where there's less competition. Do it in the bigger cities for more foot traffic.

As others have said - Australian girls when they go travelling outside of Australia like to party and are pretty open to hooking up - so you may get them there while they are outside of their social circles and in 'have fun' mode.

Lifestyle - Australia has the best lifestyle of anywhere in the world if you can afford it and you don't listen to any mainstream media. You simply can't beat the weather, beaches, standard of living and everything else on offer.

It's also a good place to come to earn money as a foreigner if you can get a visa - but I understand they can be expensive and hard to get long term.

Forecast For The Future - Australia is in a lot of trouble politically, culturally and socially.
The younger generations have been super spoiled and wrapped in cotton wool from how lucky they have it compared to the rest of the world in terms of freedom and opportunities. Most young people you meet here are getting things paid for by their parents or are living with their parents well up until their 30's.
The older generations are not very smart - they are very simple minded and came from the 'work hard and just buy a house and get married' mindset.
No one really strives for anything here other than material possessions and social status - most people live in the 'Australia bubble' and think everything is fine.
The media and workplaces here are beyond toxic and beyond blue pilled.
Unless more people start waking up, red pilling, and bringing core values back to the country, and stop a lot of the excessive lifestyles and dumb decisions that are being made here politically, it's inevitable we will go the way of these European countries that are descending into chaos within the next 50 to 100 years.

Summary - Australia is a piece of coal wrapped up like a shiny diamond (which is disappointing - because it's a place with unbelievable potential outside of the people who live here). Everything looks fantastic, but access to girls is huge issue (cliquey stand offish, social structure type culture among locals), and the politically correct, left leaning, inefficient and backwards systems we have here are slowly bringing the country down.
Good for an easy lifestyle/high standard of living, or to build yourself up financially - but mostly average or below average for game.

Quote: (12-11-2018 08:28 PM)GT777733 Wrote:  

*Caution - don't read the following unless you can handle black pills.

As someone who has lived in Australia most of their life, and been to Europe, EE, Scandinavia, Russia, the US and parts of SEA, I'd say this about Australia with 100% certainty:

Girls - the best looking girls here are as good, if not better, than any girl from any country in the world. Australia has the best natural looking girls (without makeup etc.) in the world no question (these girls get into sports and surf life saving from a young age).
Having said that, the gap between the best looking girls and the worst, is gigantic. There's plenty of overweight girls here and very average or below average girls here too.

Game - access to the best looking local girls in Australia is the biggest problem. Social circle and 'who you know' is huge for Australian girls. The top girls are very cliquey (they are taught this from the culture and from school at a young age) and close minded to anyone outside their circles.
You can perhaps get a mentally damaged 8 every once in a while through heavy gaming (takes time investment though), but it's essentially impossible to get a 9 or 10 (or 8's with any consistency) unless you are in their social circles, or you have insane value yourself.
You MIGHT do well if you are a foreigner purely because of the exotic/niche factor - but if you look average, expect average in return.

I actually think your best chance of getting a good looking girl in Australia is to go for travellers, students and foreign girls here. I know guys that have lots of time up their sleeve that do well with this purely by gaming around the big cities like Melbourne and Sydney (where you get a big transient crowd), but it takes a big time investment. You can also do this around universities, and at events.

Nightclubs here are mostly expensive and very competitive - you're better off running day game, street game, and event type game where there's less competition. Do it in the bigger cities for more foot traffic.

As others have said - Australian girls when they go travelling outside of Australia like to party and are pretty open to hooking up - so you may get them there while they are outside of their social circles and in 'have fun' mode.

Lifestyle - Australia has the best lifestyle of anywhere in the world if you can afford it and you don't listen to any mainstream media. You simply can't beat the weather, beaches, standard of living and everything else on offer.

It's also a good place to come to earn money as a foreigner if you can get a visa - but I understand they can be expensive and hard to get long term.

Forecast For The Future - Australia is in a lot of trouble politically, culturally and socially.
The younger generations have been super spoiled and wrapped in cotton wool from how lucky they have it compared to the rest of the world. Most young people you meet here are getting things paid for by their parents or are living with their parents well up until their 30's.
The older generations are not very smart - they are very simple minded and came from the 'work hard and just buy a house and get married' mindset.
No one really strives for anything here other than material possessions and social status - most people live in the 'Australia bubble' and think everything is fine.
The media and workplaces here are beyond toxic and beyond blue pilled.
Unless more people start waking up, red pilling, and bringing core values back to the country, and stop a lot of the excessive lifestyles and dumb decisions that are being made here politically, it's inevitable we will go the way of these European countries that are descending into chaos within the next 50 to 100 years.

Summary - Australia is a piece of coal wrapped up like a shiny diamond. Everything looks fantastic, but access to girls is huge issue (cliquey stand offish, social structure type culture among locals), and the politically correct, left leaning, inefficient and backwards systems we have here are slowly bringing the country down.
Good for an easy lifestyle, or to build yourself up financially - but mostly horrible for game.

I mostly agree with this. Only two things I would add:
- the idea that Australia has the best looking natural girls is a bit questionable...it really depends on your tastes. I've been to countries where the girls have impressed me far more than here. But I agree there are definitely some very attractive ones (mostly inaccessible without social circle anyway, as you mention).
- the bar for the average man and woman in Australia is not equal. As I see it, a male is considered average if he is around 5'11/6', moderately fit (being jacked is still not the norm) and has a decent job. A female is average if she is facially a 5 and slightly overweight.

Quote: (12-11-2018 09:01 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

Quote: (12-11-2018 08:28 PM)GT777733 Wrote:  

*Caution - don't read the following unless you can handle black pills.

As someone who has lived in Australia most of their life, and been to Europe, EE, Scandinavia, Russia, the US and parts of SEA, I'd say this about Australia with 100% certainty:

Girls - the best looking girls here are as good, if not better, than any girl from any country in the world. Australia has the best natural looking girls (without makeup etc.) in the world no question (these girls get into sports and surf life saving from a young age).
Having said that, the gap between the best looking girls and the worst, is gigantic. There's plenty of overweight girls here and very average or below average girls here too.

Game - access to the best looking local girls in Australia is the biggest problem. Social circle and 'who you know' is huge for Australian girls. The top girls are very cliquey (they are taught this from the culture and from school at a young age) and close minded to anyone outside their circles.
You can perhaps get a mentally damaged 8 every once in a while through heavy gaming (takes time investment though), but it's essentially impossible to get a 9 or 10 (or 8's with any consistency) unless you are in their social circles, or you have insane value yourself.
You MIGHT do well if you are a foreigner purely because of the exotic/niche factor - but if you look average, expect average in return.

I actually think your best chance of getting a good looking girl in Australia is to go for travellers, students and foreign girls here. I know guys that have lots of time up their sleeve that do well with this purely by gaming around the big cities like Melbourne and Sydney (where you get a big transient crowd), but it takes a big time investment. You can also do this around universities, and at events.

Nightclubs here are mostly expensive and very competitive - you're better off running day game, street game, and event type game where there's less competition. Do it in the bigger cities for more foot traffic.

As others have said - Australian girls when they go travelling outside of Australia like to party and are pretty open to hooking up - so you may get them there while they are outside of their social circles and in 'have fun' mode.

Lifestyle - Australia has the best lifestyle of anywhere in the world if you can afford it and you don't listen to any mainstream media. You simply can't beat the weather, beaches, standard of living and everything else on offer.

It's also a good place to come to earn money as a foreigner if you can get a visa - but I understand they can be expensive and hard to get long term.

Forecast For The Future - Australia is in a lot of trouble politically, culturally and socially.
The younger generations have been super spoiled and wrapped in cotton wool from how lucky they have it compared to the rest of the world. Most young people you meet here are getting things paid for by their parents or are living with their parents well up until their 30's.
The older generations are not very smart - they are very simple minded and came from the 'work hard and just buy a house and get married' mindset.
No one really strives for anything here other than material possessions and social status - most people live in the 'Australia bubble' and think everything is fine.
The media and workplaces here are beyond toxic and beyond blue pilled.
Unless more people start waking up, red pilling, and bringing core values back to the country, and stop a lot of the excessive lifestyles and dumb decisions that are being made here politically, it's inevitable we will go the way of these European countries that are descending into chaos within the next 50 to 100 years.

Summary - Australia is a piece of coal wrapped up like a shiny diamond. Everything looks fantastic, but access to girls is huge issue (cliquey stand offish, social structure type culture among locals), and the politically correct, left leaning, inefficient and backwards systems we have here are slowly bringing the country down.
Good for an easy lifestyle, or to build yourself up financially - but mostly horrible for game.

- the bar for the average man and woman in Australia is not equal. As I see it, a male is considered average if he is around 5'11/6', moderately fit (being jacked is still not the norm) and has a decent job. A female is average if she is facially a 5 and slightly overweight.

This is why I would advise men living in Australia to focus solely on their finances until they have them sorted.

You can travel to a more favorable location where you have more leverage, or spend less time working and more time improving your core value.

Money gives you options and freedom from a broken system or society.

Quote: (12-10-2018 06:10 PM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

Quote: (12-10-2018 03:00 PM)kadenz Wrote:  

Is the Australian Media exaggerating how bad these African gangs are fucking the country up or is it really that bad? Do Australians now have a worse perception of blacks including black Americans cause of this, like has this made gaming harder? ABC Australia dropped this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGp4jHrfKfE&t girl says she is now scared of all black people ffs

"African gangs" what a load of shit..It ain't Africans its one African nationality who fight inter tribally..I'm Coloured Sth African it ain't us or the Zims ,Kenyans etc it's the Sudanese who are racist themselves to any other cunt.I use to drink with some Kenyans who have the same opinion as me


Blacks always mixed in Oz that includers Islanders etc but the Sudanese changed that.They fight all other blacks the Islanders hate them.Islanders are essy going dudes usually and take alot to rile them up

African gangs is a leftist term to spread it on all Africans in Oz...And the Sudanese were not brought in by left leaning parties they were brought in by Conservative parties..Go figure

Shits tribal there is no AFRICAN problem there is a Sudanese problem..they don't date between themselves tribal wise still.
I've met Sudo dudes complaining about this but they are dragged down by the tribe.

Put it this way the only racist attack Ive had on myself was by Sudanese who don't respect that I'm from Africa..I'm too white looking....Bouncers have had to come and haul me out of a club due to death threats by Sudanese..unbelievable and I was born under Apartheid..

They attack mainly Asian students and Indians no one talks about this.Also they have zero respect for people with a disabilities and pick on them..for instance people with Down syndrome..

The fuckers try to home invade my cousins place while his wife of Indian origin and baby boy were there alone..No respect


Black US dudes want nothing to do with them here in Oz they tell me.Black US ,Brits and French will only get issues from the Sudanese they won't get it from the rest of us..

I never watch the ABC ...fake news

Spot on i'm black African (not sudanese) studying in Australia and this has nothing to do with Africans it's a Sudanese issue as you said. These people are brought into Australia as refugees who's father's have been killed fighting in the civil war or fathers work to pay for their travel and refugee applications etc. This means they are raised by single mothers, no father figure. Other Africans in Australia arrived as a family. That's why they seem more grounded. Even in the USA, Nigerian immigrants are the most educated in the country, and are very wealthy. This is because they have a strong family core and values. This is a complex issue, you need to understand the root of it.

Quote: (12-10-2018 06:10 PM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

Quote: (12-10-2018 03:00 PM)kadenz Wrote:  

Is the Australian Media exaggerating how bad these African gangs are fucking the country up or is it really that bad? Do Australians now have a worse perception of blacks including black Americans cause of this, like has this made gaming harder? ABC Australia dropped this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGp4jHrfKfE&t girl says she is now scared of all black people ffs

"African gangs" what a load of shit..It ain't Africans its one African nationality who fight inter tribally..I'm Coloured Sth African it ain't us or the Zims ,Kenyans etc it's the Sudanese who are racist themselves to any other cunt.I use to drink with some Kenyans who have the same opinion as me


Blacks always mixed in Oz that includers Islanders etc but the Sudanese changed that.They fight all other blacks the Islanders hate them.Islanders are essy going dudes usually and take alot to rile them up

African gangs is a leftist term to spread it on all Africans in Oz...And the Sudanese were not brought in by left leaning parties they were brought in by Conservative parties..Go figure

Shits tribal there is no AFRICAN problem there is a Sudanese problem..they don't date between themselves tribal wise still.
I've met Sudo dudes complaining about this but they are dragged down by the tribe.

Put it this way the only racist attack Ive had on myself was by Sudanese who don't respect that I'm from Africa..I'm too white looking....Bouncers have had to come and haul me out of a club due to death threats by Sudanese..unbelievable and I was born under Apartheid..

They attack mainly Asian students and Indians no one talks about this.Also they have zero respect for people with a disabilities and pick on them..for instance people with Down syndrome..

The fuckers try to home invade my cousins place while his wife of Indian origin and baby boy were there alone..No respect


Black US dudes want nothing to do with them here in Oz they tell me.Black US ,Brits and French will only get issues from the Sudanese they won't get it from the rest of us..

I never watch the ABC ...fake news

Quote: (12-11-2018 03:39 AM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

If you're gaming left-leaning university students it may be even easier, since they have a very positive view of black immigrants. They tend to view the media coverage as highly exaggerated and racially motivated, aimed at scapegoating all refugees (whom they adore) for the crimes of a tiny minority.

For those girls who do believe that Africans are violent, perhaps this might also be beneficial - after all, there is a long history of women being drawn to men they perceive as being dangerous.

Yeah I had a feeling it was greatly exaggerated, the numbers them self just don't make much sense and even if it was that bad it would be like if they referred to the Italian Mafia as a "European crime wave".

And University students in Australia haven't been spoken about much in this thread. Is the quality of uni students in Australia very good? And you say they had a tendency to like black guys? Is the layout of Australian universities similar to the campus of some American universities with a lot of students living on campus, parties on campus and things like that or is it different? I like places were the campus feels more alive not just a place were people go to study and that's it.

I've read through this thread and all I can say is I disagree, I know a lot of Australian girls due to family moving down under and visiting over there, I'd say that there is beauty, ugly and everything in-between just like the UK, USA, Russia etc.

My belief is that Australian girls are, by and large, attractive if you know your type and where your type hang out* however, Australia is the land of rugged jacked dudes with alpha tendencies as standard which has inflated the average girl's SMV due to male hunger so I'd avoid it as a place to game but to visit and explore, have a laugh with some really great guys and gals, I'd 100% say it's a great place and the people are attractive, just skewed in favour of the women demographics wise.

*If you don't know your type and where they hang out, then you're buggered, you'll cast too wide a net.

Quote: (12-14-2018 06:10 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

My belief is that Australian girls are, by and large, attractive if you know your type and where your type hang out*.

I get what you're saying. But the question specifically asked "Are Australian girls ugly?". This question is referring to the average Australian girl, the question is not referring to a micro-niche demographic survey of the trendy areas of Sydney and Melbourne.

Quote: (12-14-2018 08:27 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

Quote: (12-14-2018 06:10 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

My belief is that Australian girls are, by and large, attractive if you know your type and where your type hang out*.

I get what you're saying. But the question specifically asked "Are Australian girls ugly?". This question is referring to the average Australian girl, the question is not referring to a micro-niche demographic survey of the trendy areas of Sydney and Melbourne.

But if you go by generalities and girls that aren't your type, by that logic, the girls in your home country are ugly, hell 90% of Russia is ugly in that instance.

Overall, Australian girls are attractive, not all my type but overall, they are better looking than the British.

Quote: (12-14-2018 08:52 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

Quote: (12-14-2018 08:27 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

Quote: (12-14-2018 06:10 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

My belief is that Australian girls are, by and large, attractive if you know your type and where your type hang out*.

I get what you're saying. But the question specifically asked "Are Australian girls ugly?". This question is referring to the average Australian girl, the question is not referring to a micro-niche demographic survey of the trendy areas of Sydney and Melbourne.

But if you go by generalities and girls that aren't your type, by that logic, the girls in your home country are ugly, hell 90% of Russia is ugly in that instance.

Overall, Australian girls are attractive, not all my type but overall, they are better looking than the British.

The question was not "Are Australian girls who are your type ugly". I'm assuming that by "your type" you are referring to girls who are feminine and attractive.

For example, if you were to go to Papua New Guinea or Tonga I'm sure you could find a percentage of girls who are your type, but this subset is not indicative of the general population.

Compare this to regions like South East Asia, East Asia, Eastern Europe and even Western Europe where the average woman walking on the street aged 18-30 is much more attractive than the average in Australia.

The obesity crisis is has had a strong impact in Australian society.

Yeh they're better looking than British girls, but that's not really much of an achievement now is it.

Quote: (12-15-2018 07:18 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Quote: (12-14-2018 08:52 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

Quote: (12-14-2018 08:27 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

Quote: (12-14-2018 06:10 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

My belief is that Australian girls are, by and large, attractive if you know your type and where your type hang out*.

I get what you're saying. But the question specifically asked "Are Australian girls ugly?". This question is referring to the average Australian girl, the question is not referring to a micro-niche demographic survey of the trendy areas of Sydney and Melbourne.

But if you go by generalities and girls that aren't your type, by that logic, the girls in your home country are ugly, hell 90% of Russia is ugly in that instance.

Overall, Australian girls are attractive, not all my type but overall, they are better looking than the British.

The question was not "Are Australian girls who are your type ugly". I'm assuming that by "your type" you are referring to girls who are feminine and attractive.

For example, if you were to go to Papua New Guinea or Tonga I'm sure you could find a percentage of girls who are your type, but this subset is not indicative of the general population.

Compare this to regions like South East Asia, East Asia, Eastern Europe and even Western Europe where the average woman walking on the street aged 18-30 is much more attractive than the average in Australia.

The obesity crisis is has had a strong impact in Australian society.

Yeh they're better looking than British girls, but that's not really much of an achievement now is it.

To me Australia/NZ/UK/Ireland have all horrible averages, obesity aside the US is a little better due to more diverse genepool, and Canada seems definitely the best out of the anglosphere..

I was in Sydney for a few days. The locals were polite when I asked for directions. It wasn’t enough time for me to experience a reasonable sample size.

I checked out Barangaroo - King St area for after work girls. There were plenty of women socializing, yet I didn’t find any of the caucasian girls attractive to approach. I just kept walking...out of the area.

Many Australian women were heavy and thick with unhealthy skin. This didn’t add up, because the city is beautiful. There are plenty of areas to walk and exercise. The girls who were more feminine and slender were Asian tourists.

Perhaps, I would find more stunners on weekends in the bars and clubs. I thought I would have seen more of them walking about the city during the weekdays.

Some insight:

Australia is a hard country. It is hot, dry, empty and many people live or grew up out in remote places without many creature comforts. Most families, even those in the city have come from settlers or farmers who had to work hard to build a new country. Everyone has been expected to pull their weight and work and that included women. Due to this recent history the mate selection pressures and expectations on Australian women is different to older western countries with a long history of wealth and aristocracy.

To many of you, Australian women are masculine, fat, rude, unrefined and unworldly. In your comments you assume Australian men go for these women only due to a lack of better choice and that they apparently would rather a beautiful more cultured woman from Ukraine.

I take the view that until recently (and perhaps still) choosing a strong, capable and pragmatic woman was a way to increase chances of an Australian man's own success in life. Women followed suit in what was successful in finding a mate and delivered the traits that the men wanted. Many men here wanted women who could muster cattle, drive a truck, ride a motorbike, camp out bush without a toilet, drive a boat, cook on a fire, raise children out in the middle of nowhere in a hot tin shed. Women who were physical, tough and resilient allowed men to make money and success in farming, mining and business. A beautiful woman in Australia may have been OK in a photo but in reality the men here wanted a woman to be a partner to help him succeed. Further than that often a husband-wife team lived in isolation from others and men expected her to also fulfill his need for mateship and interest. Men here expect their girlfriend to go fishing, camping, sailing, surfing, skiing, shooting etc with them. They love when a girl can enjoy their hobbies with them and can participate in the activities Men enjoy. In other words Australian men want strong capable alpha females not pretty skinny weak useless beta females who sit around and look pretty adding little to their journey towards success except a hole in the wallet and some useless shoes. The factors that decide success in Australian culture influence what qualities men see as desirable. Poetry, philosophy, art, history and a wide understanding of European literacy may be beneficial for an Alpha in Sweden but not for a Alpha in Australia.

The Aussie men don't tell you this because they don't want to offend you. You sound like you are mostly metropolitan city men who enjoy effeminate activities like boutique womens’ fashion appreciation and dining at pretentious restaurants. Many Australian men (especially Alphas) are still country men at heart who value being able to do physical things like build things, fix stuff, drive big machines and help people.

Many guys here talk about using their game and red pill knowledge to collect superficial sex experiences with barbie doll women as a hobby. Really?! - Can you do that an still really be an alpha? To make it worse you then bitch online about all the troll women who don't make enough effort in their appearance for you and think they are princesses even though they are 6's as well as those 9's who make too much effort (and unknowingly lie to themselves about it through some dissociation process) just to deceive you, as well as all the hamstering that results from your manipulating game plays on unsuspecting 7’s who you deluded into thinking you were a good person with their interests at heart.

Here's a thought - Perhaps many of the 6 to 8 level Aussie girls can see your manipulating, chauvinistic, red pill attitude the moment you walk into the bar and want nothing to do with such a non-genuine guy. Maybe the EE and EA girls know it too but are willing to panda to your alpha alter ego in order to get a ticket out of Russia/Asia or just a meal and a bag or some attention and have really played you into being a beta.

Maybe the Alpha Aussie Boys know how the international marriage story often ends with the women sponsoring half their family into Australia and then leaving him with a child maintenance debt and no house… Maybe they understand that long term success involves choosing a girl who they enjoying being with and can go fishing with as they know how quickly the looks of a hard working woman fade but laughter doesn't.

I agree with some of your red pill attitudes but to be honest Aussie girls are pretty good. Most just don't want to be some city slickers mistress/pet/man bag/beauty contestant.

The original question was - Are they ugly? Perhaps yes - Perhaps they want to be to avoid men like you. Remember as it is often written about in red pill forums - women are the masters of disguise and deceit, even if they are unaware they are and have dissociated themselves from it…

The real question is who uses physical beauty and the ability to discuss Tsiolkovsky as a pedestal on which to judge the worthiness of woman - a beta or an alpha? A real Alpha would look past a simple Luis Vuitton fashion wardrobe and slim body + boob job + makeup and hair game play (easy game play) by a woman and look for more rare attributes in the human species like mateship, humor, kindness, humility, adaptability, honor, resilience and those dear boys may be found in the blotchy, sweaty Betty with the cheap Kmart clothes and short legs.

^^ You like uglies, I guess this explains everything... Most normal people don't. This is what Aussies and Kiwis don't understand, normal people don't like fucking girls with dead end genes.

Quote: (12-17-2018 02:47 AM)Oz2468 Wrote:  

A real Alpha would look past a simple Luis Vuitton fashion wardrobe and slim body + boob job + makeup and hair game play (easy game play) by a woman and look for more rare attributes in the human species like mateship, humor, kindness, humility, adaptability, honor, resilience and those dear boys may be found in the blotchy, sweaty Betty with the cheap Kmart clothes and short legs.

Edit: Rereading, you're obviously an ugly girl. I can't believe I didn't pick it up sooner

Even the cute slender ones had tattoos. It was a lose, lose situation.

I just kept walking to find feminine girls. The ones I did meet were tourists from Europe or Asia, no Oz locals.

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Quote: (12-17-2018 02:47 AM)Oz2468 Wrote:  

Australian women are masculine, fat, rude, unrefined and unworldly.

Yep, I would also add very entitled, superficial, materialistic, feminist school of thought adherents and think far too highly of themselves.

Quote: (12-17-2018 02:47 AM)Oz2468 Wrote:  

I take the view that until recently (and perhaps still) choosing a strong, capable and pragmatic woman was a way to increase chances of an Australian man's own success in life. Women followed suit in what was successful in finding a mate and delivered the traits that the men wanted. Many men here wanted women who could muster cattle, drive a truck, ride a motorbike, camp out bush without a toilet, drive a boat, cook on a fire, raise children out in the middle of nowhere in a hot tin shed. Women who were physical, tough and resilient allowed men to make money and success in farming, mining and business.

That's nice but unfortunately a bygone era now. Even country Australia the women have deserted the men and all moved to the big smoke abandoning old values. Country regions are now sausage festivals with a lot of lonely country boys trying to make do in a vagina drought that has no end.

Look, your average Australian Anglo bushpig female just doesn't cut the mustard compared to many other parts of the world. She will often be of the belief that she is cream of the crop globally too which only makes it worse. Some humility would go a long way in terms of attractiveness for a lot of OZ girls.

Quote: (12-17-2018 02:47 AM)Oz2468 Wrote:  

Some insight:

Australia is a hard country. It is hot, dry, empty and many people live or grew up out in remote places without many creature comforts. Most families, even those in the city have come from settlers or farmers who had to work hard to build a new country. Everyone has been expected to pull their weight and work and that included women. Due to this recent history the mate selection pressures and expectations on Australian women is different to older western countries with a long history of wealth and aristocracy.

To many of you, Australian women are masculine, fat, rude, unrefined and unworldly. In your comments you assume Australian men go for these women only due to a lack of better choice and that they apparently would rather a beautiful more cultured woman from Ukraine.

I take the view that until recently (and perhaps still) choosing a strong, capable and pragmatic woman was a way to increase chances of an Australian man's own success in life. Women followed suit in what was successful in finding a mate and delivered the traits that the men wanted. Many men here wanted women who could muster cattle, drive a truck, ride a motorbike, camp out bush without a toilet, drive a boat, cook on a fire, raise children out in the middle of nowhere in a hot tin shed. Women who were physical, tough and resilient allowed men to make money and success in farming, mining and business. A beautiful woman in Australia may have been OK in a photo but in reality the men here wanted a woman to be a partner to help him succeed. Further than that often a husband-wife team lived in isolation from others and men expected her to also fulfill his need for mateship and interest. Men here expect their girlfriend to go fishing, camping, sailing, surfing, skiing, shooting etc with them. They love when a girl can enjoy their hobbies with them and can participate in the activities Men enjoy. In other words Australian men want strong capable alpha females not pretty skinny weak useless beta females who sit around and look pretty adding little to their journey towards success except a hole in the wallet and some useless shoes. The factors that decide success in Australian culture influence what qualities men see as desirable. Poetry, philosophy, art, history and a wide understanding of European literacy may be beneficial for an Alpha in Sweden but not for a Alpha in Australia.

The Aussie men don't tell you this because they don't want to offend you. You sound like you are mostly metropolitan city men who enjoy effeminate activities like boutique womens’ fashion appreciation and dining at pretentious restaurants. Many Australian men (especially Alphas) are still country men at heart who value being able to do physical things like build things, fix stuff, drive big machines and help people.

Many guys here talk about using their game and red pill knowledge to collect superficial sex experiences with barbie doll women as a hobby. Really?! - Can you do that an still really be an alpha? To make it worse you then bitch online about all the troll women who don't make enough effort in their appearance for you and think they are princesses even though they are 6's as well as those 9's who make too much effort (and unknowingly lie to themselves about it through some dissociation process) just to deceive you, as well as all the hamstering that results from your manipulating game plays on unsuspecting 7’s who you deluded into thinking you were a good person with their interests at heart.

Here's a thought - Perhaps many of the 6 to 8 level Aussie girls can see your manipulating, chauvinistic, red pill attitude the moment you walk into the bar and want nothing to do with such a non-genuine guy. Maybe the EE and EA girls know it too but are willing to panda to your alpha alter ego in order to get a ticket out of Russia/Asia or just a meal and a bag or some attention and have really played you into being a beta.

Maybe the Alpha Aussie Boys know how the international marriage story often ends with the women sponsoring half their family into Australia and then leaving him with a child maintenance debt and no house… Maybe they understand that long term success involves choosing a girl who they enjoying being with and can go fishing with as they know how quickly the looks of a hard working woman fade but laughter doesn't.

I agree with some of your red pill attitudes but to be honest Aussie girls are pretty good. Most just don't want to be some city slickers mistress/pet/man bag/beauty contestant.

The original question was - Are they ugly? Perhaps yes - Perhaps they want to be to avoid men like you. Remember as it is often written about in red pill forums - women are the masters of disguise and deceit, even if they are unaware they are and have dissociated themselves from it…

The real question is who uses physical beauty and the ability to discuss Tsiolkovsky as a pedestal on which to judge the worthiness of woman - a beta or an alpha? A real Alpha would look past a simple Luis Vuitton fashion wardrobe and slim body + boob job + makeup and hair game play (easy game play) by a woman and look for more rare attributes in the human species like mateship, humor, kindness, humility, adaptability, honor, resilience and those dear boys may be found in the blotchy, sweaty Betty with the cheap Kmart clothes and short legs.

LOL you sound like a chick bro.

Take it easy I didn't know how shit it was until I left the country.Then I never wanted to come back..And Russian chicks do shit all over Active wearing Aussie ones cause Russians have to compete..so they got female game

And an Alpha female is not masculine .The top Alpha females are the Victoria secret models you see...If an Alpha male is masculine ie manly..A manly woman is not Alpha ,a woman doing manly things in a manly manner is not Alpha she is manly she is a beta or gamma
Who rules the roost around women? Who do they follow..the pretty one .Who do they hate? Who do they want to bring down the pretty ?

We are pro femininty here .

And that old fucking bush myth..Bullshit ..85 % of the population live within one hour of the beach..Most of the WW1 ANZACS actually came from the cities not the bush

What drove pairing up... it wasn't tough manly women what drove it was the complete lack of women from the convict days onwards..Hot Chicks go where the comfort money bright lights are...
The Aussie girls of the 80s and 90s were hot as fuck they could compete.Beachside girls are hot too

And there are many beautiful Australian women but you and your feminist mates have declared war on them..Feminism is a war on beauty..

Ask any chubby Germen girl ,French girl, Swedish ,Pommy girl why she is in OZ ..its the cock and they can get better here than at home..I've talked to alot over the years..Aussie chicks got no game anymore.Many Euro chicks have asked me what is wrong with Australian women why do they treat their men like shit.Russian girls scoff at them.It was Dutch women living with Aussies that brought it up.I use to defend Aussie women when I lived in Europe in the 90s I never heard one good word about them from Euro dudes not one..Even Pommy dudes in Sydney complained.


Chicks complaining about men prefering beauty is like nice guys complaining women don't respect them or fuck them.

And the guys saying Aussie girls ain't that hot have been to other countries

And the feminist bias agsinst Asian, EE ,SA women..if they like you they must be a whore or after a Western lifestyle..Like Western women marry down or go for poor less educated men..Nah they go for the best they can get

INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE bad...wow like marrying a Aussie chick who can take 75% of your super ,your kids, your house your savings like that's fucking great lol..or she ages and looks talks and walks like Paul Hogan.