Quote: (12-01-2011 08:31 PM)Brian Wrote:  

alright boys, enough bickering...most of NE is in fact a dump, but those spots Hencredible mentioned are good spots, not really the OccupyWhatever crowd

It's really funny how much hate DC engenders in this forum. It's totally understandable though. I'm not even an advocate of the city's offerings, or lack of them, in the area of women. Even the task of recommending places to pickup women in a city like DC is quite unpleasant.

I'm pretty much sold on the action going down in foreign countries, but I can't have some random poster who doesn't know me attack me with made up information. That's ridiculous and inappropriate. This forum isn't made so people can make personal attacks on complete strangers. Anyone who does that should get called out right away for compromising the integrity of the discussion.

I am probably one of the few who doesn't think negatively of DC although I prefer foreign travel. I don't mind all of the "professional accomplishment shields" that the DC women put up. Since I can match/exceed them school-for-school, job-for-job, business card-for-business card, house-for-house and 401K-for-401K, I can end all of that portion of a convo in about 45 seconds.

This one needed a bump, fellas.

Long time no post, simply because I haven't spent a minute more of my precious free time in this city than I've had to. But I did have the (dis)honor of doing so the past two weekends. And guess what? It's every bit as bad. I checked out Blackjack and the 14th St. area and it was breathtaking (in the worst way). But that's not news to anyone.

Here's the kicker: Not only is it getting worse, it's getting worse at a rapidly accelerating rate. You can not only see it in nightlife venues here, you can actually feel it. On a side note, Josephine's has reached the point whereupon walking in and taking your first look, all you can do is start laughing uncontrollably. (Yes, I took pics cause they're more than worthy of being posted and dotted on here, but sadly they're too dark).

DC has reached the point where it merits a national academic study. Not just because the nightlife is full of unattractive females, but also because I think there's a deeper theme at work: It might be the least sexualized city in the country.

It's in the midst of an economic boom. But the results of this boom are producing a mirror image of what you'd expect. In other words, more and more people are going out and less and less people are getting laid.

I've said it before on here and I'll say it again. If you know of any male in the Washington DC area who truly has a rotation of girls that pass the ego-test (I'll be generous and say 3 or more, although a true rotation starts at 4+ girls), a guy who truly gets out and just CRUSHES it, I mean picks up talent (8s and above) on a regular basis, show him to me. I'd be honored to meet this person.

Roosh has written on several occasions about the perils of social circle pickup, and I've always agree with him. Personally, I hate it. It requires a massive time investment, usually around people you'd prefer not to be spending your time with, and the benefits gained are far outweighed by the time you've lost. They're also outweighed by the benefits gained from cold approaching, where sure, you'll have a lower strike rate, but will ultimately come out far ahead of the guy who takes 7-8 nights to get some girl's friend to "go on a date" with him. I do wonder though, since there are so few (and I do mean few) 8.5s* and above in DC, is social circle pickup worth pursuing on the rare occasions when one is here?

Travel game is my bread and butter, and is basically what I do every weekend. My form has been very strong over the past year, but my form in DC has been non-existent. It's basically a place where I go to work, get a paycheck, maintain a strict workout routine, and put my head down at night. In other words, my time here is purely transactional.

Of course, you do get tired of traveling EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND. On the rare occasion that I'm actually here on a weekend I'll easily go 2-3 nights without even seeing a girl I'd care to approach (I have had some success by purely pursuing hired guns, but even that's streaky). It's truly that awful here. I barely spend any time here in DC, but it would be nice on the occasions I am here to at least have SOME idea of what to do/where to go to accomplish something constructive.

Depressing update.

What cities do you travel to? How do you deal with accommodation?

YES YES AND MORE YES!!!.. I LIVE IN FOGGY BOTTOM... I HAVE CONSISTENT ROTATION OF 6.5-7.9
(I CANT GIVE ANYOF THESE HOES AN 8)
DC IS WORTHLESS... I'M OUT IN MAY!!!

Quote: (12-01-2011 09:21 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I am probably one of the few who doesn't think negatively of DC although I prefer foreign travel. I don't mind all of the "professional accomplishment shields" that the DC women put up. Since I can match/exceed them school-for-school, job-for-job, business card-for-business card, house-for-house and 401K-for-401K, I can end all of that portion of a convo in about 45 seconds.

BEAUTIFUL POINT !!

FAR to many LOSERS or LOW VALUE guys with "good / excellent game" FAIL to rise to the challenge of financial success.

It's not enough to have game or a few of the fundamentals.

You need GAME / BANK / FITNESS / PERSONALITY / AMBITION / STRENGTH / INTELLIGENCE / EXPERIENCE

People think women can't see beyond bullshit (game) but they know the deal and a man must have ALL of his fundamentals in place before DESIRING MORE from the opposite sex.

Quote: (02-19-2012 06:51 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Depressing update.

What cities do you travel to? How do you deal with accommodation?

Roosh - Ha that's not the overall impression I intended to convey here, but upon re-reading yes I do realize that did sound rather depressing! Guess I just needed to unload on DC! I shouldn't complain really, life is good... It's just that DC is so ridiculously awful. I read elsewhere you're pondering moving back. Are you sure??? I'm sure you've read ample warnings on this site to stay away. Say it ain't so mate.

For travel, I usually bounce between New York, LA, and Vegas. Those are my three mainstays but I also throw in the occasional random city. I also get over to London quite a bit. Obviously not as much as I'd like to cause it's cost-prohibitive, but I have a solid crew over there, and some family so it's nice to see them once in a while. Finally, I also mix in Philly which is just a short train ride away. I used to live up there so have a ton of friends in the area. It's nothing special but it's cheap, close, and you'll at least see more talent than DC. I used to categorize Philly in a similar light as Cleveland or Pittsburgh, aka another dying city. But I was wrong. Things have picked up nicely there over the past five years and as the economy has begun to recover, you're finally starting to see some welcome transplants move into town.

*Side note: I've also read some of your writings lately discussing your second-tier city strategy in other countries. It's an interesting approach with sound logic behind it. I also think that can be applied here in the States and might start working this into my travel. I look forward to hearing more on this in the future.

To keep my travel costs down, I use a combination of Hotwire and a proven bidding strategy on Priceline. (Check out betterbidding.com for more.) I'm also a diehard when it comes to accumulating points in various hotel rewards programs through credit card and bonus promos. If you keep on top of that stuff, you can rack up a ton of free nights in very nice hotels in a short amount of time. I also have the good fortune of having A TON of FF miles left over from a previous job. Luckily, I'm able to do about 3 domestic trips and 2 European ones per year for free.

Was at a party full of hot dressed college girls and dumb guys. Maybe it is just put to much effort into finding the right places..

This thread is pretty depressing, I was thinking of getting some extra work in the school system there but all this talk is a buzzkiller. I know some artists down there and they always tell me good things about DC but i'm not too sold on it thanks to the intel from this forum.

I'm going to make a trip in the next few weeks to check out the city, i'm not really a club/bar type of cat...what are some area's or spots to hit up?

Quote: (02-23-2012 05:22 PM)sine wave killer Wrote:  

This thread is pretty depressing, I was thinking of getting some extra work in the school system there but all this talk is a buzzkiller. I know some artists down there and they always tell me good things about DC but i'm not too sold on it thanks to the intel from this forum.

I'm going to make a trip in the next few weeks to check out the city, i'm not really a club/bar type of cat...what are some area's or spots to hit up?

Sine - Like many on here have stated before, the best option for DC is to punch the gas to the nearest airport. I started this thread in an effort to uncover the few spots worth going to but also to warn fellow members to stay away! I know this area's economically booming with plenty of high-paying jobs though, so it's inevitable some members will end up here despite wanting to avoid it. Sometimes if you get a job offer into the stratosphere, you take it.

If you must come here, as a couple of members have touched upon, hotel bars may be your best bet and are something of an undiscovered gem. You'll get a fresh turnover of clientele each week in town for conventions and conferences (some of whom have the attitude of "anything goes" while on the road.) Most importantly, you'll get to familiarize yourself with the staff, bound to at least have some true hired guns (the lone category of women in DC where you can usually see some real, actual talent. Two to check out in the West End would be the Renaissance lobby bar and West End (Ground Floor of the Ritz-Carlton). Both of these are located between 21st-22nd & M St. The W, when it opened, was very strong with its selection of talent for bartenders and servers but has since plummeted, far below what you'd expect from the W brand. Only 1-2 of the DC staff would make the grade in any other W hotel in the US. (Being the Director of Talent for W is quite possibly my dream job )

Quote: (02-23-2012 11:36 PM)JackHammer11 Wrote:  

If you must come here, as a couple of members have touched upon, hotel bars may be your best bet and are something of an undiscovered gem. You'll get a fresh turnover of clientele each week in town for conventions and conferences (some of whom have the attitude of "anything goes" while on the road.) Most importantly, you'll get to familiarize yourself with the staff, bound to at least have some true hired guns (the lone category of women in DC where you can usually see some real, actual talent.

I plan on exploiting this untapped scene real soon. Got a few ideas. We'll see....

Gas prices in DC have surpassed the $5 mark.

http://inthecapital.com/2012/02/23/dc-ga...orn-video/

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:01 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Gas prices in DC have surpassed the $5 mark.

http://inthecapital.com/2012/02/23/dc-ga...orn-video/

That's misleading. That gas station has always been known for jacking up prices to ridiculous levels compared to its competitors.

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:09 AM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:01 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Gas prices in DC have surpassed the $5 mark.

http://inthecapital.com/2012/02/23/dc-ga...orn-video/

That's misleading. That gas station has always been known for jacking up prices to ridiculous levels compared to its competitors.

LMAO! That's the one by the waterfront in Georgetown. I've been driving by there for years. Never understood who would pay that much for gas when just about every other station is a dollar cheaper.

That's one grimy owner then....

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:16 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:09 AM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:01 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Gas prices in DC have surpassed the $5 mark.

http://inthecapital.com/2012/02/23/dc-ga...orn-video/

That's misleading. That gas station has always been known for jacking up prices to ridiculous levels compared to its competitors.

LMAO! That's the one by the waterfront in Georgetown. I've been driving by there for years. Never understood who would pay that much for gas when just about every other station is a dollar cheaper.

supply and demand. if you are coming into the city its your last one for a while and if you are leaving the city its the last time you can stop w/o getting off an exit ramp. and if you live nearby you cant do much better w/o heading to VA

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:43 AM)Brian Wrote:  

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:16 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:09 AM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

Quote: (02-24-2012 12:01 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Gas prices in DC have surpassed the $5 mark.

http://inthecapital.com/2012/02/23/dc-ga...orn-video/

That's misleading. That gas station has always been known for jacking up prices to ridiculous levels compared to its competitors.

LMAO! That's the one by the waterfront in Georgetown. I've been driving by there for years. Never understood who would pay that much for gas when just about every other station is a dollar cheaper.

supply and demand. if you are coming into the city its your last one for a while and if you are leaving the city its the last time you can stop w/o getting off an exit ramp. and if you live nearby you cant do much better w/o heading to VA

True.

DC: We invented the term "sausagefest". As crazy as this sounds i'm glad to be back. It may not be LA /NYC or Mia but I missed it.

Meh, I was at McFaddens last night for College Night and it was an excellent ratio, all things considered.

I'm not sure why anyone would venture beyond the college hangouts, save perhaps a few cougar bars in the suburbs.

I read something in Mens Health I think this month or last months edition. Top city for singles. DC haha. That magazine has lost a rep point from me.

I don't get the hate on DC. IMO (and i'm open to the possibility that my low-level game means I have lower standards) there are a TON of very fuckable girls in DC. In reality, they are hard to actually fuck, but that's something that hopefully will change with time and effort on my part

DC is full of highly intelligent women. They read too much and lose their charm. I think you'd be much happier in a place like Rio De Janiero instead of DC.

Even in NoVa, the chicks seem hard to fuck considering that its hard to get them away from the group for a long period of time. Then again, it could be that their logistics suck in general.

DC ratio wise seemed to have gotten a little better in my opinion these days during the weekend.

Quote: (03-09-2012 03:07 AM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  

Even in NoVa, the chicks seem hard to fuck considering that its hard to get them away from the group for a long period of time. Then again, it could be that their logistics suck in general.

Wolf - I hear ya man. Aside from actual "events" in DC which draw out the rare talent, I do think the talent in NoVa is far superior to DC, mainly because you get the hot suburban chicks coming in from Fairfax, Tyson's, etc. Unfortunately, they're very hard for a one-night close. Many of them are fresh out of college and live with their parents. If not, they're stuffed into a group house in Falls Church sharing a bad apartment with 3-4 other roommates. I've had some success here but mainly just pulling quality numbers, and getting the score later. Still beats going out in DC though. Either way, make sure you get them to come to you. You sure as hell don't want to be driving out to the 'burbs and dealing with roommates on top of that!