Lots of paper Alphas on here and paper PUAs. I may well be one of them...

It just reads like you are reading from a very narrow playbook to solve your problems. Whether you hold frame alot or neg alot doesn't really matter when you are embarking on an affair with a woman who >>sounds kind of lost<< and have what sounds like an unhappy marriage with the mother of your children.

I don't know.. I don't know you.. its like a guy with college degrees driving a big truck for a haulage firm and wondering whether to take his varicose veins, his statins and his DVT socks to a rival haulage firm, others are saying "what are you doing with your life?" and his response is 'well my gear shifts are flawless, my haulage runs are always on time, I keep my cab spotless'
Meanwhile his friends are thinking >change your life<

I hope you see what Im trying to get at.

Quote: (09-05-2018 12:33 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

Lots of paper Alphas on here and paper PUAs. I may well be one of them...

It just reads like you are reading from a very narrow playbook to solve your problems. Whether you hold frame alot or neg alot doesn't really matter when you are embarking on an affair with a woman who >>sounds kind of lost<< and have what sounds like an unhappy marriage with the mother of your children.

I don't know.. I don't know you.. its like a guy with college degrees driving a big truck for a haulage firm and wondering whether to take his varicose veins, his statins and his DVT socks to a rival haulage firm, others are saying "what are you doing with your life?" and his response is 'well my gear shifts are flawless, my haulage runs are always on time, I keep my cab spotless'
Meanwhile his friends are thinking >change your life<

I hope you see what Im trying to get at.

I think Im just going to make a concerted effort to fuck multiple women. Ive told my wife my issues with her multiple times and though she has listened she hasn't tried. If she finds out who cares? Maybe that will the spark she needs to step her shit up.

Quote: (09-05-2018 12:50 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-05-2018 12:33 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

Lots of paper Alphas on here and paper PUAs. I may well be one of them...

It just reads like you are reading from a very narrow playbook to solve your problems. Whether you hold frame alot or neg alot doesn't really matter when you are embarking on an affair with a woman who >>sounds kind of lost<< and have what sounds like an unhappy marriage with the mother of your children.

I don't know.. I don't know you.. its like a guy with college degrees driving a big truck for a haulage firm and wondering whether to take his varicose veins, his statins and his DVT socks to a rival haulage firm, others are saying "what are you doing with your life?" and his response is 'well my gear shifts are flawless, my haulage runs are always on time, I keep my cab spotless'
Meanwhile his friends are thinking >change your life<

I hope you see what Im trying to get at.

I think Im just going to make a concerted effort to fuck multiple women. Ive told my wife my issues with her multiple times and though she has listened she hasn't tried. If she finds out who cares? Maybe that will the spark she needs to step her shit up.

While that's super alpha and cool and all, keep in mind you also have a child you're raising also, it's not just about you, it's about that kid and the operational family unit.

Maybe it'll be the spark to divorce you instead and try and get full custody of your child.

If you fuck, fuck discreetly, if you have a mistress, make sure it's discreet, make sure your phone is lockdown also.

The less knowledge a woman has of shit you do on the side the better.


You need to explain the following:

-How is your wife fucking up?
-What issues does she have?
-How many times have you told her?
-HOW did you talk to her about the issues you have?
-Have you tried to help her?

Quote: (09-05-2018 12:58 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (09-05-2018 12:50 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-05-2018 12:33 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

Lots of paper Alphas on here and paper PUAs. I may well be one of them...

It just reads like you are reading from a very narrow playbook to solve your problems. Whether you hold frame alot or neg alot doesn't really matter when you are embarking on an affair with a woman who >>sounds kind of lost<< and have what sounds like an unhappy marriage with the mother of your children.

I don't know.. I don't know you.. its like a guy with college degrees driving a big truck for a haulage firm and wondering whether to take his varicose veins, his statins and his DVT socks to a rival haulage firm, others are saying "what are you doing with your life?" and his response is 'well my gear shifts are flawless, my haulage runs are always on time, I keep my cab spotless'
Meanwhile his friends are thinking >change your life<

I hope you see what Im trying to get at.

I think Im just going to make a concerted effort to fuck multiple women. Ive told my wife my issues with her multiple times and though she has listened she hasn't tried. If she finds out who cares? Maybe that will the spark she needs to step her shit up.

While that's super alpha and cool and all, keep in mind you also have a child you're raising also, it's not just about you, it's about that kid and the operational family unit.

Maybe it'll be the spark to divorce you instead and try and get full custody of your child.

If you fuck, fuck discreetly, if you have a mistress, make sure it's discreet, make sure your phone is lockdown also.

The less knowledge a woman has of shit you do on the side the better.


You need to explain the following:

-How is your wife fucking up?
She doesn't appreciate what i do for the household in terms of upkeep and financial contribution, she's gained weight and makes no attempt to lose it(she used to be a size 4), she's controlling(but it's and her sex blows
-What issues does she have?
See above
-How many times have you told her?
A plethora
-HOW did you talk to her about the issues you have?
I usually approach it in a kind and loving manner, recently i've taken a more hardnosed and crude approach
-Have you tried to help her?
We are in counseling and have been for the better part of a year. we just talk in circles.

Quote: (09-04-2018 10:52 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Background. Im a successful PUA that’s been with somewhere between 150-200 women.
My ex girlfriend is a ex model(like real model no fake IG model)/volleyball player. She is completely stunning. So much so, she constantly receives validation from women complimenting her looks and men approaching and DMing her. She’s always without a doubt the most attractive woman in the room where ever she is.

Anyway, I met her the same time I met my wife who is a successful management consultant(500k salary). Essentially, I had two girlfriends for about 2 years. I dogged the fuck out of my ex girlfriend. Gave her minimal time a week, told her if she ever got pregnant we could get an abortion in a very ‘matter of fact’ way, criticized how she dressed…etc. I dogged her, but I wasn’t malicious. Generally, I was very sweet and nice. I’m just a little particular how women dress.

Ever since I’ve been married I think about her regularly. Nothing obsessive but I do think about her. Essentially, she was the most feminine, nice and kind woman I’ve ever met despite being completely stunning. The problem was she was immature and at the time didn’t have a real career. I went with the safer more practical option. My wife and I haven’t been getting along for the majority of our marriage. Nothing violent or dramatic, but quite frankly she’s not feminine enough for me.

My ex came back in town and inquired about me to a mutual friend. When I got word I started texting her. Here’s where you guys come in and can tell me if im being paranoid or what? She is super receptive to me. As if I never wronged her or dogged her. She’s seen me twice since this has occurred and we passionately made out but haven’t been intimate. She responds to all my texts in a timely fashion. However, she doesn’t initiate texts or calls often. She is dating (not serious) a guy right now. No surprise, she fire so of course she’s almost always dating some guy.

My question is what the fuck is going on here? She has no history of being vindictive or creating drama. She didn’t even snitch on me to my fiancée when she found out. What’s the play here?

My take on it from what you've described is that she wants the validation of knowing she could steal you - "the one who got away" - from the one that got you. This is how women think.

Quote: (09-05-2018 02:02 PM)Buddydowrongright2 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-04-2018 10:52 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Background. Im a successful PUA that’s been with somewhere between 150-200 women.
My ex girlfriend is a ex model(like real model no fake IG model)/volleyball player. She is completely stunning. So much so, she constantly receives validation from women complimenting her looks and men approaching and DMing her. She’s always without a doubt the most attractive woman in the room where ever she is.

Anyway, I met her the same time I met my wife who is a successful management consultant(500k salary). Essentially, I had two girlfriends for about 2 years. I dogged the fuck out of my ex girlfriend. Gave her minimal time a week, told her if she ever got pregnant we could get an abortion in a very ‘matter of fact’ way, criticized how she dressed…etc. I dogged her, but I wasn’t malicious. Generally, I was very sweet and nice. I’m just a little particular how women dress.

Ever since I’ve been married I think about her regularly. Nothing obsessive but I do think about her. Essentially, she was the most feminine, nice and kind woman I’ve ever met despite being completely stunning. The problem was she was immature and at the time didn’t have a real career. I went with the safer more practical option. My wife and I haven’t been getting along for the majority of our marriage. Nothing violent or dramatic, but quite frankly she’s not feminine enough for me.

My ex came back in town and inquired about me to a mutual friend. When I got word I started texting her. Here’s where you guys come in and can tell me if im being paranoid or what? She is super receptive to me. As if I never wronged her or dogged her. She’s seen me twice since this has occurred and we passionately made out but haven’t been intimate. She responds to all my texts in a timely fashion. However, she doesn’t initiate texts or calls often. She is dating (not serious) a guy right now. No surprise, she fire so of course she’s almost always dating some guy.

My question is what the fuck is going on here? She has no history of being vindictive or creating drama. She didn’t even snitch on me to my fiancée when she found out. What’s the play here?

My take on it from what you've described is that she wants the validation of knowing she could steal you - "the one who got away" - from the one that got you. This is how women think.

That makes the most sense, BUT i struggle with accepting it because she's never ever wronged me "to my knowledge". When I was cheating on her when we were dating she never found out yet i still managed to hold her attention while not blatantly disrespecting her.

Quote: (09-04-2018 10:52 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

The problem was she was immature and at the time didn’t have a real career. I went with the safer more practical option. My wife and I haven’t been getting along for the majority of our marriage. Nothing violent or dramatic, but quite frankly she’s not feminine enough for me.

What kind of faggotry is this?

Choosing a less attractive unfeminine woman because she is the safer more practical option? So you chose her because she makes more money and is more serious? That's the main mistake here. Your mind's all messed up by gay left wing blue pill thinking. You're the man, you lead the relationship and her pleasantness and femininity is far more important to a relationship than her earning potential.

Anyway, she's not exactly more practical now that you're probably going to have to divorce her.

Quote: (09-05-2018 07:59 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Quote: (09-04-2018 10:52 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

The problem was she was immature and at the time didn’t have a real career. I went with the safer more practical option. My wife and I haven’t been getting along for the majority of our marriage. Nothing violent or dramatic, but quite frankly she’s not feminine enough for me.

What kind of faggotry is this?

Choosing a less attractive unfeminine woman because she is the safer more practical option? So you chose her because she makes more money and is more serious? That's the main mistake here. Your mind's all messed up by gay left wing blue pill thinking. You're the man, you lead the relationship and her pleasantness and femininity is far more important to a relationship than her earning potential.

Anyway, she's not exactly more practical now that you're probably going to have to divorce her.

My old lady was almost as submissive back before she turned into a different person. I chose her because her family was tighter knit and didnt have any drama, they were kind to me(still are) and she was smart as a good damn whip on top of having a crazy body. The ex had a dad who was a rolling stone and a crazy mother.

Agreeing with PT on all accounts.

Too many contradictions in the story. Not too mention completely delusional intro (met keyboard-puas like that so can sniff it out miles away). Things just don't add up. Spam other forums.

Sometimes I think unfulfilled screenwriters push their C-movie romcom scripts to test it here.

Quote: (09-06-2018 05:15 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

Agreeing with PT on all accounts.

Too many contradictions in the story. Not too mention completely delusional intro (met keyboard-puas like that so can sniff it out miles away). Things just don't add up. Spam other forums.

Sometimes I think unfulfilled screenwriters push their C-movie romcom scripts to test it here.

What doesn't add up? Im happy to answer any questions to quell your suspicions

I'm back fellas. Just got off the phone with the ex and I'll be seeing her tonight and tomorrow. Prior to today I was being far too candid with how I feel about her. She never pulled back, but at the rate I was going any female wouldve pulled back eventually. We have a pretty candid relationship and I was getting a little jealous when she would tell me about her dates. I didn't like other people spending time with her, but luckily I never voiced my displeasure with it. After I made this post earlier in the week I got slapped in the face with reality by a number of folks on this thread. I didn't like that I liked her so much. I liked her as much as she likes me, maybe even more and that's always a relationship dynamic no-no. I've since toughened up. I still like her, maybe even love her but I have to pull back. I went out with a 24 year old Wednesday and the bitch was fucking smoking. Told the ex about it and of course she wasn't happy, but in the very same conversation she agreed to spend the weekend with me lol women.