Quote: (08-20-2018 08:25 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

If you guys don't have the guts and the character to have families, to build your communities the way you want them, then you guys deserve your fate. The future belongs to those who show up, not to those who fuck thots for a living.

So, you're saying that if we wanted to do this with our communities, then we could?

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Imagine one day, there was enough white people who said

"you know, this isn't working. PoC, and us, we're never going to get along. No amount of affirmative action jobs, no amount of scholarships, no amount of welfare will ever resolve this. This hurdle of racism is too high a hurdle to overcome"

And a separatist movement formed on a large scale.

Would it be permissible?


I would call it "white people abandoning you" (great use of language there) and leaving all non-whites to their own utopia.

Would you, or be of the belief large sections of non-white communities, be satisfied enough to not resist such a movement being able to abandon you?

If not, why not?

Nobody answered T and A Man's question in that thread.

So DocHoliday, what do you say to the bolded question quoted above?

Could we build our communities to give university scholarships to white people, since most Americans don't have a parent or grandparent that comes from Europe, meaning we don't qualify for European ethnicity scholarships? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts?

Could we build our communities to have "majority quotas" where we give special preferences to white people in employment, education and political office? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts?

Could we build our communities where we give immigration preferences to people who come from our same European racial, cultural, ethnic and linguistic backgrounds? You know, like how America was before the Hart Cellar Act? Or how Canada was before the 1970's? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts??

DocHoliday, and Bastard_Sword, could we build our communities like that if we had the guts to do so? Would any of this be permissible?

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:09 PM)Contagion Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 08:25 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

If you guys don't have the guts and the character to have families, to build your communities the way you want them, then you guys deserve your fate. The future belongs to those who show up, not to those who fuck thots for a living.

So, you're saying that if we wanted to do this with our communities, then we could?

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Imagine one day, there was enough white people who said

"you know, this isn't working. PoC, and us, we're never going to get along. No amount of affirmative action jobs, no amount of scholarships, no amount of welfare will ever resolve this. This hurdle of racism is too high a hurdle to overcome"

And a separatist movement formed on a large scale.

Would it be permissible?


I would call it "white people abandoning you" (great use of language there) and leaving all non-whites to their own utopia.

Would you, or be of the belief large sections of non-white communities, be satisfied enough to not resist such a movement being able to abandon you?

If not, why not?

Nobody answered T and A Man's question in that thread.

So DocHoliday, what do you say? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts?

Could we build our communities to give university scholarships to white people, since most Americans don't have a parent or grandparent that comes from Europe, meaning we don't qualify for European ethnicity scholarships? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts?

Could we build our communities to have "majority quotas" where we give special preferences to white people in employment, education and political office? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts?

Could we build our communities where we give immigration preferences to people who come from our same European racial, cultural, ethnic and linguistic backgrounds? You know, like how America was before the Hart Cellar Act? Would it be permissible, if we had the guts??

DocHoliday, and Bastard_Sword, could we build our communities like that if we had the guts to do so? Would any of this be permissible?

You want to start a civil war and kill a bunch of people because that's the only way you can build a community, go right ahead. Seems like that's what a bunch of you want. Some people build by creating, some by destroying. Most of you don't seem to have the capacity to create so go ahead then, destroy away. You and the SJWs are two sides of the same coin in my opinion, not a licks bit of difference in how you guys react to dissenting points of view. You want to start a separatist movement, go ahead, what exactly is stopping you? Not sure why you're asking me if it's permissible. I sure ain't losing anything if you leave my community. The white people I bond with don't think like you or the rest of you WRTs and they would be staying with me, not following you or Zelcorpion. God speed to anyone foolish enough to follow you jokers off of a cliff. Hell you guys are too scared to have kids, let alone start a separatist movement.

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:13 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You want to start a civil war and kill a bunch of people because that's the only way you can build a community, go right ahead. Seems like that's what a bunch of you want. Some people build by creating, some by destroying. Most of you don't seem to have the capacity to create so go ahead then, destroy away. You and the SJWs are two sides of the same coin in my opinion, not a licks bit of difference in how you guys react to dissenting points of view.

Again, who's talking about starting a civil war? The question is about whites sticking together and building communities that serve our own interests. Why do you keep coming back to hatred? Seems like you're projecting your own neuroses:

- whites hate other races and blame them for their own lack of success
- whites don't have control of their own women
- whites need to deal with their own mental illnesses
- whites want to start a civil war
- etc.

Fucking hell man. Could you please answer Contagion's question?

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:13 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You want to start a civil war and kill a bunch of people because that's the only way you can build a community, go right ahead. Seems like that's what a bunch of you want. Some people build by creating, some by destroying. Most of you don't seem to have the capacity to create so go ahead then, destroy away. You and the SJWs are two sides of the same coin in my opinion, not a licks bit of difference in how you guys react to dissenting points of view. You want to start a separatist movement, go ahead, what exactly is stopping you.?

Nope, you missed the message of what was in the quote box. Nobody said anything about a Civil War. What T and a Man was saying, was that if white people simply peacefully stepped away from non-whites, and created their own community, wishing the non-whites the best of luck but having nothing to do with them anymore, Would that be permissible to build our community like that, if we had the guts to do so?

Quote: (08-20-2018 07:38 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 07:27 PM)Parras Wrote:  

The powers that be and the elite have done a pretty good job in convincing White middle class and lower class Americans into believing that the poor immigrants and minorities are mooching off them, like the majority of the people in this thread.

I agree with a lot of what's in your post, but that's not what this thread is about.

Canada is financially supporting so-called refugees, as are many European countries. This thread had nothing to do with Indian IT professionals or Mexican fruit-pickers until the white-haters tried to derail it.

What does the rest of your post have to do with Chinese-Canadians protesting refugees being put up by the government in their own neighborhood?

No one hates whites, I certainly don't.

The statement is a bitch rich considering the usual WRTs spewing their hatred towards "minorities".

Canada also supports fat politicians that do nothing for the country, add government workers and teachers to that bloated list.

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:20 PM)Contagion Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:13 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You want to start a civil war and kill a bunch of people because that's the only way you can build a community, go right ahead. Seems like that's what a bunch of you want. Some people build by creating, some by destroying. Most of you don't seem to have the capacity to create so go ahead then, destroy away. You and the SJWs are two sides of the same coin in my opinion, not a licks bit of difference in how you guys react to dissenting points of view. You want to start a separatist movement, go ahead, what exactly is stopping you.?

Nope, you missed the message of what was in the quote box. Nobody said anything about a Civil War. What T and a Man was saying, was that if white people simply peacefully stepped away from non-whites, and created their own community, wishing the non-whites the best of luck but having nothing to do with them anymore, Would that be permissible to build our community like that, if we had the guts to do so?

And I answered your stupid question. Who the fuck is stopping you from doing it? Talk is cheap. If you want to do it then do it. If you have the guts to do it like you keep repeating as though you're some Tourette's patient. Problem is that most white people are smart enough to not follow you WRTs off of that cliff. But sure, go ahead, make my day. You guys are so afraid of your own women that you guys (not all white people, just you WRTs on this forum) won't even have children with them so I don't know how you'd even do this but sure, I have no problem with it if that's what you want. Best of luck to you all with your new home land.

Thot you really need to stop conflating yourself with all whites. Like Rudebwoy pointed out, your the one who referred to us as white haters. I'd say I have far more love for my white brothers and sisters and want to see them do better than you do for any brown people. That's quite obvious from your posts

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

No one hates whites, I certainly don't.

No comment.

Aloha!

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:36 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:20 PM)Contagion Wrote:  

Nope, you missed the message of what was in the quote box. Nobody said anything about a Civil War. What T and a Man was saying, was that if white people simply peacefully stepped away from non-whites, and created their own community, wishing the non-whites the best of luck but having nothing to do with them anymore, Would that be permissible to build our community like that, if we had the guts to do so?

And I answered your stupid question. Who the fuck is stopping you from doing it? Talk is cheap. If you want to do it then do it. If you have the guts to do it like you keep repeating as though you're some Tourette's patient. Problem is that most white people are smart enough to not follow you WRTs off of that cliff. But sure, go ahead, make my day.

It's not just about guts, it's about practical concerns.

If someone created a peaceful white community, it wouldn't be long before the media started painting them with labels of racism and segregation. Few people would then be inclined to support them, and we could even see banks and other financial services declining to serve them. What are they going to do economically? Even if they switched to growing their own food and having a barter system, the tax man will still expect them to pay in US dollars.

Don't forget that secession isn't cool in the USA anymore. Not in 150 years.

And don't forget that the Amish only get away with not paying social security taxes because of a long legal battle.

And then there's the possibility of a false flag -- a white family is sent as an infiltrator, smuggleing in some illegal house workers from Latin America, keeping them under serflike conditions. The media blows this up and suddenly public opinion turns against them.

You can't just go ahead and build a community like that when there are so many hostile threats all throughout society.

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:36 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

And I answered your stupid question. Who the fuck is stopping you from doing it? Talk is cheap. If you want to do it then do it. If you have the guts to do it like you keep repeating as though you're some Tourette's patient. Problem is that most white people are smart enough to not follow you WRTs off of that cliff. But sure, go ahead, make my day.

... literally all of the legal, political and media establishments in the west?

Try saying in public you want to live only around other whites, see what happens to you. Or you want to open a church that's white only. Or start a business hiring only whites. Or you don't want your taxes going to help non whites. Note that I don't personally want any of these things, but don't act like the white man isn't constrained by policies ostensibly designed to help minorities.

And your use of shaming language is laughable. Tourette's, autistic, civil war-starting... yeah bro you got us dead to rights

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:46 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

No one hates whites, I certainly don't.

No comment.

Aloha!

I love your humour, but I am not sure why your trying to say here.

Quote: (08-20-2018 10:00 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:46 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

No one hates whites, I certainly don't.

No comment.

Aloha!

I love your humour, but I am not sure why your trying to say here.

I believe Kona is trying to say that he has a dream of a society that does not judge people by the color of their skin but rather by the merit of their lawn care

Quote: (08-20-2018 08:25 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

If you guys don't have the guts and the character to have families, to build your communities the way you want them, then you guys deserve your fate. The future belongs to those who show up, not to those who fuck thots for a living.

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:36 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

And I answered your stupid question. Who the fuck is stopping you from doing it? Talk is cheap. If you want to do it then do it. If you have the guts to do it like you keep repeating as though you're some Tourette's patient. Problem is that most white people are smart enough to not follow you WRTs off of that cliff. But sure, go ahead, make my day.

No, you didn't answer my "stupid question", but that's fine.

Most white people don't talk about this stuff with you because you're an Indian and whites don't like talking about this with non-white people. The reason for this is because simple dialogue about these types of issues will cause white people employment, social and financial harm. So, we just shut our mouths until we are in our "safe space".

But I guarandamntee you that whites will talk to other whites about how it's bullshit that minorities get scholarships just for being non-white, it's bullshit that we have "diversity quotas" in the workplace, government and education sectors and that it's bullshit how the demographics are changing while all you hear from non-whites is "You're lazy, you didn't want to do the work, just self-improvement bro".

What, you thought the "Build That Wall" chants at the Trump rallies was solely about economics?

You know damn well that whites can't shape the communities to how we want them. Obama was even trying to move Section 8 housing into predominately white areas and we all know why they ship the refugees into the boondock towns in flyover country instead of in the diverse cities, where their integration process would go a whole lot easier for them.

But since whites can't shape our communities to how we want them and diversity is forced upon us, than that is why "white flight" is a real, tangible thing in America.

Since you didn't want to answer my original questions of whether or not you thought that the things that I mentioned, or that T and a Man mentioned in his quote box, would be permissable if we had the guts to do so (I'm only using "had the guts to do so" because that's what you originally said), maybe you can answer this question:

If whites were able to build and shape our communities to how we wanted to shape them, would "white flight" be a thing in the United States? Yes or no?

The problem isn't that Contagion and Thot Leader are white.

The issue is that they're pussies and somehow are sucking each other's cocks in this thread.

However, back to the real point, all they will do is bitch and moan as race trolls (WRT) while their stronger white brothers and sisters kill it (as they continuously have).

These guys are like the crackheads of the white community who will hinder the progress their community needs rather than help it.

I would encourage members of any race to ignore them.

Quote: (08-20-2018 10:00 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:46 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

No one hates whites, I certainly don't.

No comment.

Aloha!

I love your humour, but I am not sure why your trying to say here.

I was speaking only for myself. I was also making a joke to lighten the mood. The implication I attempted was that I fostered disdain towards my Caucasian brothers. As you all know that is far from true. I have white friends.

Aloha!

Quote: (08-20-2018 10:37 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

The problem isn't that Contagion and Thot Leader are white.

The issue is that they're pussies and somehow are sucking each other's cocks in this thread.

However, back to the real point, all they will do is bitch and moan as race trolls (WRT) while their stronger white brothers and sisters kill it (as they continuously have).

These guys are like the crackheads of the white community who will hinder the progress their community needs rather than help it.

I would encourage members of any race to ignore them.

This post is you publicly stroking yourself off at the expense of lower rep members. A lot of other, high rep members have agreed with me on this thread, you fucking pussy.

White people are talkng behind my back? Oh shit, that sucks. Thanks for being so honest with me, now I know better. I'm going to confront my white girlfriend the moment I get home. Thank you once again. So you asked if it was permissible after all that verbal diarrhea and I said yes. What part of that did you not understand. Mormons, Amish, other groups already have their homogenous communities and that's fine no big deal. You guys could do the same. Problem is that your pipe dream is that white people go on strike essentially and I said that if you can convince a majority to do so then go for it.

As for the diversity programs, scholarships etc, I never benefitted from a single one of those programs, I made it in my own with help from my parents. In a traditional nuclear family. The problem with you guys is that your just angry and you want to lash out. Instead of doing the hard work, you want to pontificate over and over and indulge in your fantasies. So fine in the spirit of indulging in WRT porn, I'll answer YES! to your second question. White people can be free!! I hereby allow it to be so.

Here's a question to the bunch of you, do you have kids? If not, why not?

Quote: (08-20-2018 09:48 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

Try saying in public you want to live only around other whites, see what happens to you. Or you want to open a church that's white only. Or start a business hiring only whites. Or you don't want your taxes going to help non whites. Note that I don't personally want any of these things, but don't act like the white man isn't constrained by policies ostensibly designed to help minorities.

Hey

Thou leader, as you read above, I love white people. If you'd like, I could type this very post with my penis in the mouth of s white girl, but I may lose focus, and I want you to understand my point.

The problem with you white folks wanting only "white" things, is that so many other white people do it based strictly on hatred. It's not based on pride in ones self only.

Also, there already are a ton of the things you mentioned. St Patrick's day parade, itish are white. Italian restaurant, those are white. French American chamber of commerce, white as snow.

You want to be proud of just "European" well that's fine. Do it the right way. They don't march down main st at the st party's day parade saying "Erin go brah, and fuck those coloreds" so No one complains.

So where you need to start is by policing up the ones inside your own group that do it only out of hatred. The average white nationalist is a fat white tedneck who hates themselves so much that they gotta lash out.

I say fix yourselves before you worry about others.

Aloha!

Quote: (08-20-2018 10:50 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

White people are talkng behind my back? Oh shit, that sucks. Thanks for being so honest with me, now I know better. I'm going to confront my white girlfriend the moment I get home. Thank you once again. So you asked if it was permissible after all that verbal diarrhea and I said yes. What part of that did you not understand. Mormons, Amish, other groups already have their homogenous communities and that's fine no big deal. You guys could do the same. Problem is that your pipe dream is that white people go on strike essentially and I said that if you can convince a majority to do so then go for it.

As for the diversity programs, scholarships etc, I never benefitted from a single one of those programs, I made it in my own with help from my parents. In a traditional nuclear family. The problem with you guys is that your just angry and you want to lash out. Instead of doing the hard work, you want to pontificate over and over and indulge in your fantasies. So fine in the spirit of indulging in WRT porn, I'll answer YES! to your second question. White people can be free!! I hereby allow it to be so.

Here's a question to the bunch of you, do you have kids? If not, why not?

White people aren't talking behind your back. Society is making it impossible due to financial, employment and social repercussions, for white people to have dialogue with people of color about these types of issues.

I'm not angry. I'm not lashing out. And finally yes, I "do the hard work". I was just having a discussion. If you'll notice, I did not throw out one slur or insult at you, Bastard_Sword, or Cobra. I only discussed.

And yet, you (Doc Holiday) and Cobra were the ones to throw out insults against me.

I'll bow out of the conversation now, as I believe that I made valid points. To be clear, no I don't want to start a Civil War and I have nothing against people as individuals, no matter what their race or ethnicity is. I wish everybody nothing but peace and happiness on this Earth. I was simply discussing some of the issues concerning the topic on a national or even global scale.

Though, I think a lot of the world be much more peaceful if people could live how they wanted to live and people were free to create whatever communities work best for them. You seemed to agree with me there Doc, but again, we all know the reality of whether or not that would be allowed to happen peacefully. The Amish or the Mormons would not be allowed to exist today if they started what they were doing a mere ten years ago, and we both know that.

Finally, I would encourage you to speak with your white girlfriend DocHoliday. Maybe she could articulate some of what I was trying to say to you, in a way that would actually get through to you, since nothing that I said seemed to get through to you.

Well before you run away Contagion, what exactly should my white gf explain to me exactly? I don't have a clue as to what you and Thot are looking for. Freedom from big government? Who the hell doesn't want that. You think that just because I'm brown that I'm in favor of having the government step all over mine and your freedom? You think white people are the only ones who are trampled on by the government and the culture at large? I'd say open your eyes and realize that you guys aren't alone in being suffocated by a large and ever intrusive government. There is a lot of common ground we could find but you guys don't want that, you believe that you're the only ones suffering.

Again, do you have a family? How about you Thot, do you? If not, then why not?

Wow this thread is nothing about Chinese protesting anymore? Isnt the notion "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" familiar here?

I love white people too.

Whenever they move in my block, real estate prices increases. Gotta love em. They make good neighbors too. Only comaints are the old hags they keep sensing tho....

Fellas fellas I really hope we can squash this. What's the use of quibbling over race in the forum. My personal thought is that we all should have the freedom & ability to live the way we want to at least on a micro level. On a macro level it can be difficult when the government has such an immense influence on society & demographics. I believe that I can empathize from parties from all sides, but I don't think the solution lies in the argument taking place in this forum.

And yes, as DrugAdvisor mentioned what about the poor Chinese folk in Toronto? LoL.....

Quote: (08-20-2018 04:33 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2018 04:19 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  

This single bolded sentence just proves my point. If white women are either unable to create healthy families (due to the various issues I listed previously), unwilling to do so (thanks to buying into extreme feminism wholesale), and have a tendency to torpedo their families once they do create them (through the ridiculous 40% divorce rate among white women), whose fault is that?

I'm sure the WRTs will find some way to sweep this under the rug or blame the Jews/Chinese/evil lizard people. The simpler answer is that it's simply a massive flaw in white culture, one which guys like Sloppy don't have the balls to admit. It's also much more threatening to western civilization than a couple more Chun Li's showing up and making college admissions more competitive.

You may be right. Although you haven't come out and said it, I assume the flaw you're referring to is white men's capacity for empathy, i.e. a willingness to extend privileges to those who haven't earned them? By letting women make choices, or by allowing third worlders to flood into the west even though they have little to offer us and we owe them nothing? So according to your logic we should stop being so nice and hospitable, yes? That'd be our first, and perhaps only step?

Yeah I can see that. We can certainly empathise with the people who migrate to the west and the reasons they do so. On an intellectual level, we know the vast majority are coming here not out of malice, but just to pursue the same things we are - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Unfortunately there's another aspect to it, whereby the migrants are wielded against us as weapons. This is probably not their choice in the vast majority of cases, but intentional or not, it's the reality and we cannot discount it.

We can choose to focus on their humanity, or on their function as agents of destruction. The former will inevitably lead to our demise, while the latter may make us behave like jerks to people who probably don't deserve it. There's no perfect solution, but if I weigh up the equation:

Destruction of my family, society and everything my ancestors built
vs
being a jerk occasionally.

It's not a tough choice at all.

Quote: (08-21-2018 01:42 AM)king bast Wrote:  

Yeah I can see that. We can certainly empathise with the people who migrate to the west and the reasons they do so. On an intellectual level, we know the vast majority are coming here not out of malice, but just to pursue the same things we are - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Unfortunately there's another aspect to it, whereby the migrants are wielded against us as weapons. This is probably not their choice in the vast majority of cases, but intentional or not, it's the reality and we cannot discount it.

We can choose to focus on their humanity, or on their function as agents of destruction. The former will inevitably lead to our demise, while the latter may make us behave like jerks to people who probably don't deserve it. There's no perfect solution, but if I weigh up the equation:

Destruction of my family, society and everything my ancestors built
vs
being a jerk occasionally.

It's not a tough choice at all.

That puts it well.

Wonder why the fuck you instantly resort to name-calling and insults, when all we say is that we prefer if the people who created, built the place from ground up and were the overwhelming majority up until the 1990s, that they remain the majority.

Otherwise what is a 80% non-Japanese Japan? Would that still be Japan according to you?

But an 80% non-Euro-Canadian Canada would still be Canada?

And it's fine if guys want to then even "starve out" the remaining 20%?

By the way - that is why the people wanted the Wall with Trump. Do your really think it was about illegal labor pressure only?

I guess that this is all racist.

Whatever.

Quote: (08-20-2018 03:10 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Funniest thing here is that most these dudes doing the autistic screech about the death of White civilization aren't doing the one thing that they could actually do to help stem this problem, which would be to get married to a nice white girl and pump out a bunch of cute white kids. I guess Leonard has kids but his kids are half Juans and/or Juanitas so as far as propagating the white species, he's an utter failure. The others would rather just chase sluts, swipe right on Tindle in lesser developed countries rather than to become an adult, have kids and raise them in a traditional Irish, Polish, Italian, whichever great culture you might belong to and produce some adults who could keep civilization intact. Funny thing here, all you guys would rather screech away and blame people like me for your woes rather than actually take some action and make your surroundings a decent place.

Then again, I don't know if I could imagine most of you guys being able to handle it. It would be comical to see a guy like SS (Sloppy Seconds lol) having a family. Oh well, just enjoy the decline, keep pounding them sluts and keep up the good fight by posting on RVF.

Same tired old shit.

"If you don't want to be swamped with Africans pumping out ten kids they can't afford to feed then you better start breeding like Africans and pumping out ten kids you can't afford to feed."

Do you actually think this shit over or do you just cut and paste some SJW shit from twitter?

What race are you, anyway? How do you think the Mestizoisation of America is going to work out for you and your people?