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06-10-2018, 02:18 AM
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06-10-2018, 03:45 AM
NOLA,
what are some post-service career opportunities besides signing an extension of contract? Where do the smart guys end up say 5 years after they're done with the legion?
I suspect as cool as it all sounds a lot of the guys will end up lonely alcoholics on some SEA island. How common is it that a guy joins the legion, gets out and builds a legacy for himself and his family?
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06-10-2018, 06:53 AM
Their role is to keep the drama going, me thinks.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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06-10-2018, 07:12 AM
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06-10-2018, 07:16 AM
Quote: (06-10-2018 07:12 AM)sync Wrote:
Quote: (06-01-2018 11:25 PM)nola Wrote:
I did 7 years in the French Foreign Legion and 6 in the US Navy. Here is the nut shell contained in an acorn.
TLDR: I joined the French Foreign Legion for you ADHD guys.
Some guys on here have mentioned to me exploring or joining the French Foreign Legion, so I want to share my own experience for those who would like to figure out if its right for them.
I went through Legion training with ex-cons, active criminals, heavily educated, divorcee's, tradesman etc... All awesome men that will be my family for the rest of my life. All will be remembered as men that changed my life for the better.
A bit about my service background before I joined: I only share this because I get asked a lot from people in person when they find out I was in the Legion. It's not representative of whats needed to join the French Foreign Legion. In fact, most people that join do not have my background and some have no background at all.
I enlisted in the US Navy Reserves in the delayed entry program at age 17 just before college to become a corpsman. I became what they call a Greenside Medic with the US Marines. I went through 2 deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan and got an honorable discharge after completing 6 years.
My US Navy training included A-school and C-school. A-school was my basic Corpsman training, and C-school was my specialty which led to 18D training at Camp McKall, NC through the US Army, Special Forces Medic training (I was not a SEAL or Special Forces).
While in college, I completed one deployment in the reserves where I had the heroically masculine job of assisting in delivering Iraqi babies and working with Gynecologists. I've probably seen more bloody pussies and women shitting themselves than anyone on this forum. I also hung out at a place called LSA Anaconda which was nicknamed "Mortaritaville" thanks to the 24/7 shelling. They didn't let me near the wire because I was a bit jumpy, so they kept me with the women. Smart move looking back now.
Once I completed Greenside training with the Marines, and having completed college with a useless Physics degree, I pursued an active duty role within 8492NEC (Naval Enlistment Classification Code) which is Special Operations Corpsman or USMC Force Reconnaissance and served within FMFLant. While with FMFLant, I completed a 2nd deployment where I actually got shot at and had to shoot back - really fucking scary.
Upon my return I had to complete Jump School training in Static and MFF (Military Free Fall). Static was in Fort Benning, GA and MFF was in Yuma. AZ. At Fort Benning the Rangers let me run the Darby Queen which is their abuse course and called me an asshole after. Rangers are fucking awesome and I delivered babies... they still let me join into their hunting activities at a place called Camp Merrill in Dahlonega, GA which was their Mountaineering School.
I somehow survived that level of shit and got sent back to Camp McKall for an evolution called SERE (Survive Evade Resist Escape) training, which I actually did okay at. The military finally helped me find something I was actually good at.
Once I got my inner "Rambo" out and survived divorce rape, I discharged because my MCPO told me I'd likely retire an E7 (at the time I was an E6 with 6 years). I got offered OCS but I'd had enough of the military by then.
I worked in the private sector for 2 years but was unhappy and drinking a lot. I needed an adventure to keep me from becoming an alcoholic. I somehow ended up getting a DUI after downing a bunch of whiskey shots and driving around town - Enter the French Foreign Legion.
I bought a one-way ticket to France while I was also drunk, not really knowing what I was about to put my body and mind through. Nor did I know anything about the French Foreign Legion.
Well long story short:
I served for 7 years in the 2nd Foreign Parachute Regiment known as 2e REP based on the Island of Corsica. I've been out 4 years now, so the data I'm giving is up to date until leaving and some is based on conversations I've had with active members I'm still in touch with.
The History:
The Legion was formed in 1831 as a force to expand and secure French Colonial interest around the globe (especially Africa and the Middle East). It later became pretty famous as a safe haven or escape for outlaws and undesirables. I was neither of the two, but we still get people from all walks of life and take pride in giving men a 2nd chance to redeem themselves and find a purpose in life.
We served in every major war you've heard of, and are commonly known as a mercenary force. i.e. France and allies of France can use us as a task force without taking responsibility for the outcome.
Who can join:
Anyone between the ages of 18 – 39, unless you're a serious felon for something like Rape or Murder also Murder is questionable which depends on your countries laws. If you're wanted by Interpol, Europol or your home government for other major crimes, find one of us and we'll help you sort it out. Small stuff, even warrants, will not effect you if you meet general requirements.
French citizens, and only French citizens, can become commissioned officers but cannot enlist in the ranks (although I've heard they might be allowing French citizens enlist). All non-French citizens serve as enlisted men, even if you have a college degree or served as an officer in your home military.
Before you Join:
French Language:
I joined the Legion knowing only English and Russian. I did not know any French - I mean ZERO French. The Legion will give you no quarter. It all begins in French after selection. They do give you courses, but it's barely helpful. When you fuck up because you did not understand the command, they whip your fucking ass. "I don't understand French" and "French is my 2nd language" is not a proper response. We learn French by force and when I say Force I mean FORCE. Even if you're mildly retarded like myself, you'll fucking learn French, I promise. Notice how many times I said French in this paragraph. I was Traumatized into learning their language. Even if you're doing something you've never done before, even potentially deadly, they deliver your instructions in French. One time I ran out the back of an aircraft because my Jump Master was screaming some French shit at me I didn't understand while pointing at a hole in the aircraft. Because I couldn't understand, they had to fish me out the Atlantic Ocean. I learned my longitude and latitude in French pretty quick after that one.
Dental:
You need to have good teeth, so get any dental work taken care of first before showing up.
Missing teeth are not a disqualification as long as you have your primary teeth and they are healthy.
Eyes:
Color Blindness: Get tested if you haven't been, Red/Green deficiencies are common. Color blindness will exclude you serving in 2e REP as a Parachutist, but not from the Legion as a whole.
Vision needs to be good. There is a lot of disinformation online about this (I served on a selection panel near the end of my time in). Glasses will not exclude you from joining, but will impact selection if you are weak in all other areas.
Overall Health:
Get a general physical which includes a spine and chest x-ray along with a EKG.
If you're interested in 2e REP which is the Parachutist Reg I recommend also getting a chamber test and pulmonary function test done as well. We also dive so this will be some additional training you'll go through. At least in North America and Western Europe there are usually hospitals that have hyperbaric chambers. Just ask your doctor for a dive physical.
Pulmonary function test is nothing more than blowing through a tube. If your pulmonary function test is good you don't necessarily need to do a chamber run although if it's easy to get near you go ahead and get it.
If you live in the US an easy way to cover all your bases is to ask your doctor for a Diving Physical and FAA Physical.
If you don't meet every requirement, your dreams are not shattered. There are many regiments in the Legion that are equally honorable – I am simply sharing the medical requirements I specifically faced. This is mainly for guys who want to try out for 2e REP.
How to Join:
You just show up at the recruiting depots in Paris or Aubagne with your passport and whatever bag you have. You don't even need a bag - just have your passport. They'll take you in immediately. It's literally that simple. You don't need to call ahead or talk to anyone. Just walk right up to the gate and tell the century on duty you want to join the legion.
Paris: Fort de Nogent
Aubagne: Quartier Vienot
I showed up in Aubagne with my medical records, US military DD214 and my passport + the clothes on my back, a pack of cigarettes and lighter.
What Happens next:
You'll be escorted into base and all your belongings, including your passport and documents, will be confiscated. You simply sit and wait for a few hours.
They'll bring you in and begin interviewing you for a few weeks. Depending on when you join they start indoc once they get enough candidates. They'll put you up while they wait to build the class which is basically a waiting game. I waited about two weeks because I joined in winter. Meanwhile they interviewed me, made me clean shit, clothed me and made me do Sport - basically just physical training. If you join in Paris your down time will be less than mine since that base receives more candidates.
Selection:
Once a class is ready it's another hurry up and wait routine. You'll go through all your medical examinations, interviews with NCO's and Officers, an IQ test, sport test (a lot of burpies) -
Burpies look easy but they are not. Practice them before you go - a lot of guys failed sport test.
Also practice your chin-ups and rope climbs. Rope climbs and chin ups are a Legion tradition, and they really don't fuck around with people who can't do either.
Push ups, flutter kicks, etc... are adaptable, Practice them if you can, but almost everyone survives these two workouts. Defintely focus on all this if you're older man before arriving.
Cardio: Before arriving I highly recommend spending at least 3 months running and swimming every day...Even better if you have 6 months of daily training. Learn how to run long distances with a weighted backpack. Swimming as much as possible will help to reduce wear on your joints. You don't want to get injured while training.
If you're into any combat sports, quit them before you join. You don't want to arrive with any injuries.
Shooting: if you have no prior military training and did not grow up around guns I recommend joining a shooting range or club and getting an ex-military guy (preferably a veteran) to teach you how to shoot and maintain side arms and long guns - break downs, assembly and maintenance. If you tell a vet you're joining the service most of us are happy to teach you the ropes free of charge. You just pay for the ammo. If a guy tells me he'll buy the bullets, he can shoot anything in my possession.
Parachuting and Diving: If you want to become a parachutist and diver I recommend you at least trying each once. You don't need to be trained in it as they'll train you, but I was a military free fall instructor for a short stint and I can tell you I fucking hated talking guys off the gate. If you can't do heights or confined spaces you're going to hate jumping and diving.
What to expect:
At the end of my military career with the Legion I had been shot twice in combat, stabbed a few times and my ankles and bottom of my foot was disfigured so buyer beware.
I don't regret my career and would recommend it to any guys looking for something to do and have no direction.
Hi nola, i know a polish guy who was also 7 years there. Now he lives in a polish village with house and family.
How many guys of french legion did not survive, when you have been there?
I' ve heard stories (not from this guy) that sometimes soldiers there kill each other, because there are psychos. Or that they raped a girl and burned here after and made pictures. Dont know if its true.
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06-10-2018, 03:33 PM
I don't know nola, and can't really comment in his particular case, but I think many people would be surprised at just how many and varied the opportunities are that life throws at some people within a relatively short space of time.
As to the specific life choices he has made, those are his own, and I would say they are remarkably typical amongst people with his back ground. I have several former instructors who are ex-SF, elite infantry, bodyguards etc, who have been to extraordinary places, developed real competence in a remarkable number of things, and who ultimately have settled for a life making much less money than they could with their skills. These are guys who have made major bucks running close protection gigs for huge global companies in the various hot-spots current and past. Their stories are incredible, and they've been shot, stabbed, blown up, fragged, and all the rest of it. In the end though, after varying amounts of time, they've all wanted just to settle down to a quieter life, with some property, some friends, travel on their own terms, good food and a predictable schedule. They have left hundreds of thousands of pounds on the table to do so. Many of the sorts of opportunities and accomplishments/qualifications nola mentions are similar to those my mentors have themselves, and many of them follow on fairly naturally from them. (For example, many UK Para Reg guys join the Legion specifically to go do crazy stuff).
There may be some artistic license involved in nola's post, I don't know, and perhaps even a few modifications to preserve anonymity, but I found it an enjoyable and informative read with an overall ring of truthfulness and experience in all the details that mattered.
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06-10-2018, 09:50 PM
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06-11-2018, 03:37 AM
Quote: (06-06-2018 06:19 AM)Going strong Wrote:
Also, I can't believe we're ten pages into the Legion Etrangere thread and nobody mentioned the most glorious (with Kolwezi) page of its History: Camerone. 65 Legionnaires against 3000 Mexican soldiers...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camar%C3%B3n
At the end of the day, at Camerone, the five remaining French Legionnaires actually charged, with no bullets but just their bayonnettes, three thousands Mexican soldiers. In honor of their unheard-of bravery, the Mexican general Milan authorized them to surrender with their weapons and full dignity.
Isn't it ironic that one of the most glorious moments, and possibly the only time where the French doesn't run/surrender, was performed by the Legion Etrangere and not actual French soldiers
Joking aside, reading about that battle is so fucking inspiring. 62 against 3000, shit I don't know what the hell possessed these guys to have balls of steel like that. Not sure if the legionnaires there were foreigners or French, but I can't imagine how foreigners would have that kind of loyalty and dedication to the French cause. Maybe this is why the French would actually need some cultural enrichment
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06-11-2018, 06:32 PM
Quote: (06-10-2018 05:40 PM)ulterior Wrote:
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NOLA,
what are some post-service career opportunities besides signing an extension of contract? Where do the smart guys end up say 5 years after they're done with the legion?
I suspect as cool as it all sounds a lot of the guys will end up lonely alcoholics on some SEA island. How common is it that a guy joins the legion, gets out and builds a legacy for himself and his family?
I have a similar question, whether honorable FFL service has a prestige with it that can be appropriately leveraged.
It'll largely depend on what you do in the Legion. Like the regular military you'll have a specialty and that will to some extent determine your opportunities upon your exit.
That said if you're the type of guy that is a bit of intellectual. I'd look into focusing on technical or medical experience that will require continued education.
If you actually like more brute areas then private security and PMC is an option as well.
I had a education prior to entering and also a stint as a corpsman in the USNR so I had a stem degree and field medical training.
While in the legion I focused on the parachutist skills and various aviation, weapons handling and EOD (explosive ordinance disposal) related skills. My career in the Legion did not help or hurt my current career other than the fact I can say I was in the Legion which a lot of people I meet don't even know it still exist.
I would not look to the Legion like you'd look to your local military where you can join on a rate or MOS that will further your civilian education. I also do not know how local militaries work every where in the world. I can only speak to the Legion and the US Military.
Then again you could go to Hawaii and get a 500 ton USCG captains licence which will take 15 years according to a forum member. I'm going to go ahead and assume this member never visited a USCG regional office which issues USCG Merchant Mariners Documents and asked a few questions.
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06-13-2018, 12:20 AM
Quote: (06-13-2018 12:03 AM)Kona Wrote:
Quote: (06-11-2018 06:32 PM)nola Wrote:
Then again you could go to Hawaii and get a 500 ton USCG captains licence which will take 15 years according to a forum member. I'm going to go ahead and assume this member never visited a USCG regional office which issues USCG Merchant Mariners Documents and asked a few questions.
The problem there is that you will get the coast guard documents shoved either 3 feet, or 4 feet, or 2 feet up your ass.
Aloha!
Not sure what that means, also a weird statement. Why don't you stop being vague and actually give people relevant information.
"The problems is you'll get xyz documents shoved either 3 feet, or 4 feet, or 2 feet up your ass."
What does that mean skipper?
Aloha!
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06-14-2018, 06:11 PM
Quote: (06-03-2018 06:02 PM)Kona Wrote:
Can superiorClimber, without going into much detail, tell us how he met NOLA, please?
Aloha!
No need for further questions.
Superiors rep SAYS he is not Nola's Sock Puppet.
THERE.
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06-14-2018, 07:39 PM
Quote: (06-13-2018 12:03 AM)Kona Wrote:
Quote: (06-11-2018 06:32 PM)nola Wrote:
Then again you could go to Hawaii and get a 500 ton USCG captains licence which will take 15 years according to a forum member. I'm going to go ahead and assume this member never visited a USCG regional office which issues USCG Merchant Mariners Documents and asked a few questions.
The problem there is that you will get the coast guard documents shoved either 3 feet, or 4 feet, or 2 feet up your ass.
Aloha!
First Kona I have nothing against you I actually enjoy your post.
My only problem with this post is you don't call it a Merchant Mariners docket. USCG is just the regulatory body.
I just call my USCG Captains License for short. Common slang.
Also living in Hawaii you should know since most of your faggot new age sailors there play with Catamarans instead of Mono-hulls or plastic fantastics as well guys that grew up in boat building communities don't fuck around with these things.
Before I was 21 I had a 500 ton licence as I mated sportfishes and head boats through middle and HS in the summer. I have friends that got Unlimited Masters Licences before the age of 25 with sailing and towing endorsements. I worked my neighbors Pool Chaffee for shrimping and menhaden prior which is a 200 + ton vessel.
It's like people not knowing the difference between a masters license or unlimited. or 50 vs 100 ton.
Also late to the chase but I never actually quoted the Maltese Falcons footage you can actually read that through my post nor did I quote gross tonnage. I also never said I was the Captain of this vessel. Nomadbrah insinuated I did.
Read through my responses and post before you insinuate. It's a bad habit and I have it as well.
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06-14-2018, 08:12 PM
If anyone has questions about the Legion I'm happy to answer them privately or publicly on this thread. I'm in Belgrade, Serbia currently and willing to meet in person. I live between Kharkov Ukraine and Tallinn Estonia nowadays.
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06-19-2018, 06:22 PM
Quote: (06-04-2018 01:48 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:
Quote: (06-04-2018 01:02 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:
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I'm a RE Investor. Started buying homes here after Katrina and flipping them now I buy rehab and AirBnB them which NOLA is a Goldmine for; Also spent 8 years as a Yacht Captain and my former client/business partner now owns a bunch of Commercial Buildings here so he wanted me here to set up shop while part-timing as a software engineer on one of his DP vessels which is originally what my education was in. SO NOLA is kinda the perfect place for me unless I wanted to live in New Iberia or Houma which are both pretty boring.
Hurricane Katrina was in August 2005.
You were 17 when 9/11 (2001) hit:
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I was 17 when 9/11 happened.
That makes you 21-22 years old when Katrina hit NO.
And in college.
And deployed?
And working at a startup?
And taking a commercial diving license?
And being a captain at Tom Perkins yacht?
And a real estate investor?
I'm fucking done with this now.
Edit:
I forgot, Nola was studying at MIT in Boston, but apparantly in addition to his deployments, startup work and "multiple civilian jobs", found time to run a real estate flipping business in New Orleans?
At the same time.
In two different locations.
Software engineer now? Flipping houses after Katrina while being deployed at the same time?
Cot damn!
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Funnily enough I have had my fair share of jive hucksters in Louisiana. Dudes lying off their asses about fish or deer they bagged. Dudes country as fuck, mouths wider than Lake Pontchartrain, and louder than a Louisianian woman.
Easier to ignore when you are over there and blow it off.
Habitual liars on forums like this one or in more serious environments like a corporate office just reek of omega incel virus stuff. It's like you know what kind of place this is, the stakes involved, or the decorum expected of you, but you still cannot resist that urge to bloviate? Why?
I have no idea if habitual/pathological liars are more common now than in the old days (could be since broken homes are a contributor), but I myself, find those types more depressing to me on a personal level, than anything some dumb feminist does to our society. I've seen coworkers being escorted from a workplace for doing stuff like this, leaving whole departments in a steaming funk, seen NTP and how he damn near tore a hole in the forum, and every time without fail, it puts an emptiness into everyone's morale. It's like walking in on your own brother and he is balls deep in a goat or some other animal. You cannot look at him the same way, yes, but when you walk away from a man you thought was kind of okay/normal like this (most people tell even a few white lies in life), it's like you lose some of that faith in the man next to you. Like how many holding the torch will be around after a while. Can you imagine how the last straight men in Sodom and Gomorrah, aside from Lot, may have felt?
I guess the demoralizing is just that. Demoralizing. No big truth I guess.
Whatever. That's enough internet for me today. Time to wrap up my day anyway.
Quote: (06-04-2018 01:50 PM)Kona Wrote:
Quote: (06-04-2018 06:01 AM)Dragan Wrote:
You called me a "shaky witness", is that a statement of fact, or an opinion.... Hmmm?
In less you have Parkinson's disease that statement is always going to be an opinion.
Listen dragon, I think you got suckered. There's some weirdos out there.
Did you give this guy any money, or do anything for him?
Aloha!
Quote: (06-04-2018 06:30 PM)Mercenary Wrote:
Quote: (06-04-2018 07:01 AM)Fortis Wrote:
So we got quite a few nautical masters:
Nola, NTP, LibertySea and Hydrgonian. Nice to see the 4th head of the hydra.
There's waaaaay more than 4 heads to this "aquatic themed" and/or "boat themed" hydra that has been stalking RVF for years now.
Every time you manage to cut off one of the serpent heads, another 2 grow in its place.
![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media.giphy.com/media/s15Qf1zJBvumY/giphy.gif)
Heck, I would not be surprised if 25% of the posters in THIS thread are the exact same person using multiple accounts. Some of which are posting "in support" and some of which are posting "in opposition."
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In spite of all this mega-manliness, he chooses to spend his time at the Failure Worship Club of Belgrade.