Lots going on and not enough time to get on the forum in recent days but man has this thread taken some sort of a turn.

This is the reason I actively avoid hanging out with Indian dudes and Indians in general ranging from FOBs to the whitewashed ones to the overly proud types. Exceptions exist because I have known a few genuinely cool Indian guys but you have no idea how salty most of the guys and women get when they see the one lone brown guy getting girls of other races, especially if they are white.

This whole uncle tom, sellout and self-hater nonsense? Heard it many times.

All these brown dudes going around acting all mighty and proud, calling others uncle toms and preaching about racial loyalty?

These guys deeply desire to have success with white girls moreso than any other kind of Indian guy out there but on the outside, they play up this image of an overly proud brown guy who is above assimilating or speaking with those white devils. They go around calling everyone not a part of their mindset an uncle tom to make them feel guilty, they want the world to join in on their hate brigade.

I think there is some sort of weird psychological phenomenon where people who really despise something wish they had it. Similar to how one psychological study found that homophobes are much more likely to be aroused by gay images than people who could give less of a fuck.

This whole morally self-righteous stay true to your own skin tone thing is just projection and power play.

What kind of a person in general cares that much about what others are doing and what they like?

I could care less if Indian guys are out there being gay, only dating Indian girls, only going for white girls, who the hell cares. It is none of my business who a guy goes for, my only issue is when that guy tries to stop me from living life the way I want.

It is tough to believe that any guy living a respectable sex life would care that much about what others are doing. Often it is the guys who are not where they want to be in the game that are going around policing what others like or go for.

You don't see supermodels complaining about the beauty standard, how sexist men are or how they have an issue with people seeing women a certain way. It is always the rainbow haired feminists that have an issue with the world not marching to their beat and preferences. They don't really have an issue with men objectifying women, they have an issue with the fact that no one is objectifying them.

It is the same for these Indian guys that go around acting all overly proud and in touch with their roots, its a coping mechanism to get away from the fear of gaming girls of other races, often white girls.

For this thread to get derailed because someone has an issue with Indian guys liking what they like and wants to around policing everyone's preference, that's just wrong.

Going to edit and update my post here without rambling on about random shit.

I am all for Indian guys on this forum sharing their successes and the kinds of women they have had success with.

Any brown players having international success outside of the Anglo world want to share their stories?

So now that the racist nonsense has died down. Any practical tips on clothes for brownies?

In the Black Guy thread ASOS.com has been mentioned a few times. I’ve never tried any of their stuff but I’m wondering if there’s a certain kinda look you guys go for

Ok, a more practical question:

I'm thinking of travel destinations for the summer. I haven't been to Europe in several years, but when I went, I always found Eastern Europe(Poland, Baltics) and Scandinavia to be friendlier to brown guys than Western and Southern Europe(France, Italy, Spain). Has anyone done any extensive traveling around Europe post-refugee crisis and has insight into which countries are still good? Looking to game local as well as tourist girls.

^Polish women love us. I say this, however, due to my interactions with them here in the midwest rather than Poland itself.

Regarding Scandinavia, I've personally been to Finland and Sweden as well. I had more IOIs in Finland than Sweden but hard to tell the differences because at that time my game and goals were not aligned properly.

I'll say this in my opinion. If you walk into a bar well dressed in Finland, once those Finnish girls get drunk, unless you really fuck up, I think it would be tough not to get laid.

Dang. Maybe I should get me some Indian Guy Game. lol

Quote: (05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Arado Wrote:  

Ok, a more practical question:

I'm thinking of travel destinations for the summer. I haven't been to Europe in several years, but when I went, I always found Eastern Europe(Poland, Baltics) and Scandinavia to be friendlier to brown guys than Western and Southern Europe(France, Italy, Spain). Has anyone done any extensive traveling around Europe post-refugee crisis and has insight into which countries are still good? Looking to game local as well as tourist girls.

Refugees have probably destroyed the brown guy image if it was even decent in the first place, I definitely understand your concern given how much this sort of thing can impact the view that women have. It can make daygame and nightgame a lot harder when a woman has to fend herself off from thirsty aggressive guys vaguely resemble you. I'll be more interested to read the experiences of others on here to see how they have fared in some places.

The one thing I can say for certain is that women in Spain and Italy have always been closed off to mixing it up and prefer to go for the whitest guys possible. Nordic looking men are known to slay there and this has been the case for many decades. I do believe that even a well put together brown guy should avoid a country like Spain and Italy, if tanned brunettes are that much of your thing then just go to an Eastern European country where they have a lot of them.

While I've had amazing experiences with Italian American women, get a lot of IOIs from them, match with them on dating apps a good amount, and have been with a few; Italian women right out of Italy are a different story.

As for French women, I've had an amazing experience with them and saw a good bit of interracial mixing when I visited for a week. I think that women in Northern France will be more open to a well put together brown guy while women of Southern France are probably a lot more like women in Spain and Italy.

Any Indian dudes done well with black women in the South? They've been super receptive to me here on the west coast.

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Any Indian dudes done well with black women in the South? They've been super receptive to me here on the west coast.

Don't take my word for it (I'd try it for yourself), but I have anecdotal evidence that an Indian dude with swag can do quite well with Black women in southern metropolises such as Houston or Atlanta among other places. IMO those are the two meccas of the new cosmopolitan South.

I've noticed in general (for myself and my friends) that Indian guys get attention from black girls. It seems to be a general rule across the US. Definitely the case here on the East Coast, and I've heard simar things in the Midwest and West Coast. Would be surprised if the South is the one exception.

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I speak some non-Indian languages but never had the chance to show it off in front of attractive Indian girls unfortunately. I think if she saw that, that would be another way that an Indian guy could scramble the brain of any attractive self hating ethnic Indian girl. Again, here we are talking about racking up notches with attractive girls. I would never consider a self-hating ethnic girl for an LTR.

Attractive and self-hating don't usually go together, at least not in my experience. Hot Indian girls are either:
1. So hot they can get hot white guys
2. Slightly less hot, but still good enough to get hot brown guys

I've met only one Indian girl I would describe as hot and potentially self-hating, she ended up dating a white soyboy. Literally, the dude was a classic weak beta guy. She wanted nothing to do with Indian guys, and even if you could get in with her crowd, you'd be invisible. She had her eyes set on white.

The self-hating SJW type (I know many unfortunately) tend to be on the uglier side. Note, they can still be cute, but they won't be very attractive. They're usually also upper middle class. Basically they're just the brown version of the cute-ish to ugly, upper middle class white girls that make up the bulk of feminists/SJWs.

From experience, speaking a non-Indian language doesn't work. Or at least, not as well as you might think. I've done it, no real success...or let me rephrase, it is nothing compared to telling a white girl you speak multiple languages. Indian girls just aren't impressed with language skills, keep in mind, realistically most speak 3, if not 4 languages (English, their native tongue, Spaninsh, and possibly Hindi). Other races (white and black mostly) are significantly more impressed if you can speak more than one language.

The only languagge you might be able to pull off with Indian chicks is French, and that's because Indian girls in the US follow the basic bitch template of thinking Paris is the most romantic place in the world.

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We've gotten up to 7 pages in this thread and the bulk of the discussion has revolved around gaming white women in the US. This is a prime example of the pedestalization of these women I mentioned earlier.

Been reading this thread backwards, so that's why I'm tripping posting here. Ha, definitely some weird stuff a few pages back.

In terms of gaming white women in the US - I don't think it's a prime example of pedastalizing them. The reality is that most of us are in the US (the country where game is probably needed more than anywhere else, it's not a coincidence all the major manosphere/game guys are from the Anglosphere).

Add to that that the majority of women in the US are white, and it shouldn't surprise people most posts are about Indian guys in the US gaming American women, who are predominantly white.

Regardless, gotta give props to everyone who contributed to the non-US side of this thread. I'll be travelling the next few years and reporting back myself - including in Europe.

It'll be fascinating to see imo because
a) there's been some talk about refugees fucking it up for us in Europe,
b) I'm the complete opposite of some guys here who are 6ft+ and ligjt-skinned, as I'm on the shorter and darker side. I guess I look a lot more like your typical IRT
c) the entire Bollywood/yoga/spirituality thing isn't a gimmick for me, but actually part of my identity

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This is the reason I actively avoid hanging out with Indian dudes and Indians in general ranging from FOBs to the whitewashed ones to the overly proud types. Exceptions exist because I have known a few genuinely cool Indian guys but you have no idea how salty most of the guys and women get when they see the one lone brown guy getting girls of other races, especially if they are white.

I can't say I agree. Although I have met Indian guys who are a bit weird about white girls ("dude, you're so lucky, you get with white girls"), I haven't met any who are genuinely salty about it. And even then, I'm not entirely sure they were being weird as much as they were happy things worked out for me.

Just an example - I was at an Indian wedding a few weeks back. One of my friends there (he was a groomsman) brought his white girl friend along. Now, of course, she stood out in the crowd full of South Indians. Yet despite that, I didn't hear a single person be salty about him having a white girlfriend.

Maybe I just interact with a different crowd though. Barring a few exceptions, most of the Indians I've met in real life in the US have been completely fine about Indian dudes dating white girls. And I was deeply immersed (and still am) in that ethnic conclave.

The only ones I've seen being salty are the one who get angry when a famous Indian guy dates a white girl. It's similar to how black women feel about white women stealing their men. But the Indian guys, they don't give a fuck.

Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I didn't realize being Indian was a big deal to brown guys until I read RVF. It actually does make me wonder how skewed the representation of Indian guys on RVF is. And I don't mean that in a bad way, but it does seem we attract the ones who are more insecure about their race.

Ha, actually my only real beef with the Indian people I know is that they're overwhelmingly liberal (guys) and feminists (women). That and the fact that a lot of them have absorbed that narcissistic mindset that's beset so many millennials. I

If they were all a lot more conservative and a lot more humble when young, I'd be totally fine with them.

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This whole uncle tom, sellout and self-hater nonsense? Heard it many times.

All these brown dudes going around acting all mighty and proud, calling others uncle toms and preaching about racial loyalty?

I've never heard "Uncle Tom" being used by Indian people. And again, I know all the Indian clubs, fraternities, dance groups, etc.

Not once has any of my Indian friends called me an Uncle Tom or sellout. Not once have any of them given me shit for being successful with white girls.

But like I said, maybe I just hang with a different crowd. Other people have already brought up how Indians on the West Coast seem to be different than the ones on the East Coast. There's probably a lot of other differences too, based on where you live and who you hang out with.

I'm not denying your experience, just surprised as it's what I've seen on RVF, but not in real life personally (again as I posted on page 3 of this thread, I didn't even realize being Indian was considered such a big deal to many until I read it on RVF).

I guess to each his own though but I've definitely faced a lot of that sort of experience from Indian guys, much more from Hispanic and Middle Eastern men though and can't tell why since I am not of those races.

Speaking of Indian women though.

In my experiences with Indian women, I've had far worst experiences with the light skinned ones. Come to think of it I notice that these are also the main kinds of Indian women I see disliking most other Indians and generally avoiding Indian men if they assimilate. If I am to be honest too, a few of them have been good looking. Saw this Sunny Leone lookalike a while back with this bald dude who looked a lot like Jeff Ross. This is all on the east coast though.

I've had a far better experience with darker skinned Indian women who were chill and welcoming as well as being friendly. While I've still had a few chances to bang, social experiences with lighter skinned Indian women have been bad. Going to generalize in a big way here but they tend to be a lot more aggressive, feisty and confrontational while darker skinned Indian women I have met have generally been calm.

Did not mean to piss off any of my fellow Indians on this thread.

Quote: (05-26-2018 12:01 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I guess to each his own though but I've definitely faced a lot of that sort of experience from Indian guys, much more from Hispanic and Middle Eastern men though and can't tell why since I am not of those races.

Speaking of Indian women though.

In my experiences with Indian women, I've had far worst experiences with the light skinned ones. Come to think of it I notice that these are also the main kinds of Indian women I see disliking most other Indians and generally avoiding Indian men if they assimilate. If I am to be honest too, a few of them have been good looking. Saw this Sunny Leone lookalike a while back with this bald dude who looked a lot like Jeff Ross. This is all on the east coast though.

I've had a far better experience with darker skinned Indian women who were chill and welcoming as well as being friendly. While I've still had a few chances to bang, social experiences with lighter skinned Indian women have been bad. Going to generalize in a big way here but they tend to be a lot more aggressive, feisty and confrontational while darker skinned Indian women I have met have generally been calm.

Did not mean to piss off any of my fellow Indians on this thread.

Don't worry about pissing anyone off. We can all take it .

And man, that's a really good point about light-skinned vs. sark-skinned Indian girls. I have to agree - the two most chill Indian chicks I've met have were both from the South (and were dark).

What groups of women have you guys found to be the most receptive towards you?

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The only language you might be able to pull off with Indian chicks is French, and that's because Indian girls in the US follow the basic bitch template of thinking Paris is the most romantic place in the world.

Hahah, so true. Is the real truth about Paris more likely that chicks might get their ass grabbed or accosted by a budding ISIS member? I need to hear about it from the Parisians on here. How bad has the situation gotten over there? LOL.

The funniest thing when I would go to Montreal regularly was going to an Indian or Chinese restaurant up there and seeing these Indian and Chinese guys speaking perfect French which they need to in order to serve their customers (plus it's actually a law in Quebec that anyone serving the public has to be able to speak French). I can speak some French but these guys were fluent. I can't even imagine how funny French sounds with an Indian accent.

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I speak some non-Indian languages but never had the chance to show it off in front of attractive Indian girls unfortunately. I think if she saw that, that would be another way that an Indian guy could scramble the brain of any attractive self hating ethnic Indian girl. Again, here we are talking about racking up notches with attractive girls. I would never consider a self-hating ethnic girl for an LTR.

Attractive and self-hating don't usually go together, at least not in my experience. Hot Indian girls are either:
1. So hot they can get hot white guys
2. Slightly less hot, but still good enough to get hot brown guys

I've met only one Indian girl I would describe as hot and potentially self-hating, she ended up dating a white soyboy. Literally, the dude was a classic weak beta guy. She wanted nothing to do with Indian guys, and even if you could get in with her crowd, you'd be invisible. She had her eyes set on white.

The self-hating SJW type (I know many unfortunately) tend to be on the uglier side. Note, they can still be cute, but they won't be very attractive. They're usually also upper middle class. Basically they're just the brown version of the cute-ish to ugly, upper middle class white girls that make up the bulk of feminists/SJWs.

From experience, speaking a non-Indian language doesn't work. Or at least, not as well as you might think. I've done it, no real success...or let me rephrase, it is nothing compared to telling a white girl you speak multiple languages. Indian girls just aren't impressed with language skills, keep in mind, realistically most speak 3, if not 4 languages (English, their native tongue, Spaninsh, and possibly Hindi). Other races (white and black mostly) are significantly more impressed if you can speak more than one language.

The only languagge you might be able to pull off with Indian chicks is French, and that's because Indian girls in the US follow the basic bitch template of thinking Paris is the most romantic place in the world.

In terms of self-hating hot Indian ethnic girls, I was referring to an earlier post from Crash when he noted that when he dates a white girl, all the attractive Indian girls who ordinarily ignore Indian guys all of a sudden become interested in him. At least where I am now, I am seeing a non-insignificant number of attractive Indian women dating white guys and it seems sometimes that every single ambitious Indian-American female politician is dating or married to a white guy. I've read through this thread and I'm still not quite sure what to think about this. Obviously this forum is all about gaming all kinds of women, but I am wondering what is causing American raised SJW Indian girls to lose interest in Indian guys. Many of these women would claim that they are proud of their culture (and say all the right SJW phrases) and probably aren't consciously self-hating, but they still ignore Indian guys. After all, who a girl sleeps with is always more of an indication of her true feelings than any political phrases she recites.

There is also a demand side factor at work too - as obesity and attitudes in white women skyrocket, white guys look to other races for attractive women.

The point about speaking languages (and I'm talking full fluency, not the bs where someone took a course in college but can barely hold a conversation) isn't necessarily about spiking attraction - in general, speaking another language mainly helps as a communication tool and not really a DHV, so it only helps with girls who are more comfortable in that language than they are in English.

However, I thought maybe it could be an easy way to stand out from the typical Indian guy that doesn't speak a non-Indian language when talking to a whitewashed Indian girl. I've met very few Indian or Indian American guys that grew up in or live in the Anglosphere or India (obviously the diaspora in non English speaking countries would be different) that can speak a non-Indian language other than English fluently so I have no data as to whether it has any impact on the attitude of Indian-American females. Many of them claim they speak Spanish but it's usually pretty elementary.

Anyway, like I said, there are very few gaming situations out there where I've been able to meet foreign chicks in my target languages within earshot of a "self-hating" Indian girl. If you brag about speaking a foreign language, that never works. In my experience, when gaming any girl, the foreign language DHV is most effective when the girl sees you speaking comfortably with a foreign native speaker even though you never mentioned before that you speak it. However, as I mentioned earlier, it's something to set you apart but all the other elements of attraction still have to be there.

Quote: (05-26-2018 12:01 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Speaking of Indian women though.

In my experiences with Indian women, I've had far worst experiences with the light skinned ones. Come to think of it I notice that these are also the main kinds of Indian women I see disliking most other Indians and generally avoiding Indian men if they assimilate. If I am to be honest too, a few of them have been good looking. Saw this Sunny Leone lookalike a while back with this bald dude who looked a lot like Jeff Ross. This is all on the east coast though.

I've had a far better experience with darker skinned Indian women who were chill and welcoming as well as being friendly. While I've still had a few chances to bang, social experiences with lighter skinned Indian women have been bad. Going to generalize in a big way here but they tend to be a lot more aggressive, feisty and confrontational while darker skinned Indian women I have met have generally been calm.

Did not mean to piss off any of my fellow Indians on this thread.

If I were to throw out a theory I'd say this is due to the pedestalization of light-skinned girls in India (and in general just universally- blacks and other Asian cultures have the same mentality), so as a result attractive darker girls will generally get a lot less attention than their lighter, more bollywood-looking counterparts. Darker-skinned girls are less likely to have all the Indian men fawning at them all their lives, and will also on average get much less attention from other races, resulting in chiller, less bitchy attitudes.

Regarding the turn of this thread, let's just say I consider this a very important thread on this forum, so I will do my best to keep it troll free. I will be very harsh sometimes, but after a person exposes themselves as a hateful to the theme of the thread, I often don't feel any other need than go hard on them. After they further expose themselves, I leave it alone. There's no need to fan the flames on that.

Regarding our identity and how we carry ourselves, I wanted to dedicate this particular post to the ratio of successful players I have met or have met others who vouched for, are Indian or Desi/South Asian from this forum compared to all forum guys is pretty high considering most other players. Let's see, (in no particular order so don't think I love you less )

-Lothario: This man probably put in the most work I have every seen. Coming in to the country with a heavy accent and the Indian social calibration problem, he put in so much work that the dude has the respect of many players on the forum, including Roosh. Guys have told me that they can't even stand for a second because this guy is approaching like a madman. This guy has slayed across the spectrum, including many white women. I owe a lot to him in determining my own style and fashion. This is the guy that glorified pocket squares for me, which have now become a part of my aura.
-bojangles: Never met him but seems like a cool UK-Indian British player that has even written a book in Indian guy game.
-Newgamer: met him in person and saw his game in action in NYC. He had some white girls hooked and I saw it.
-doc holliday: One of my main boys of the Chicago tribe. He's a successful older gentleman that never once blames his race or ethnicity for any unsuccessful attempts on women. He's a positive dude I always enjoy hanging with. He's more "westernized" than I am I think, but that doesn't stop us from having a good time.
-Kaizen: Met him only once but the guys that I'm close to who know him better peg him as a successful guy who is on a road to self improvement.
-Genghis Khan: Of course, I haven't met you yet, but we seem alike, as individuals who love our culture and proud of it and of the darker shorter stock. We may have more in common culturally than I do with the other players. Looking forward to meeting you soon.
-Slim Shady: Seems like a really cool guy from Australia that I wish would post more. I know he was slaying some white hotties.
-kaotic: He doesn't need special mention of course. Probably one of the pillars of the community here. I did a podcast with him a while back which is on my signature link. He's probably the most westernized of this whole list. However, I love that he's true to himself and has given me great advice in the past. I'm looking forward to meeting him in a few months.
-Agastya: Never met but I want to give this guy a hug for staying true to his Indian roots. He knows more about Indian culture than anyone on this forum, and he's proud of it. I love reading his posts because it teaches me a little more about our culture.

There are players on the above list that are more "Desi" or South Asian than others. For example, Lothario isn't someone who I consider westernized. He's proud of his culture and carries it well, whereas kaotic may be a lot more westernized, also proud of it and carries it well.

The point of me providing this list is this: There is no template and there is no need to "act" a certain way to impress a certain kind of woman. Stay true to your own identity first. Don't feel the need to adjust that identity to slay women. Once you are the best version of yourself, genuine women will be attracted to you, including the white ones, Indian ones and whatever. More comments on this in a subsequent post regarding my own identity.

Quote: (05-26-2018 10:16 PM)Arado Wrote:  

At least where I am now, I am seeing a non-insignificant number of attractive Indian women dating white guys and it seems sometimes that every single ambitious Indian-American female politician is dating or married to a white guy. I've read through this thread and I'm still not quite sure what to think about this.

Out of curiosity - where are you? I've spent years in LA and NYC and can't say I've noticed a substantial amount of out-marriage among Indian women, FOB or American born. You see it of course, but from my observations the demographic that tends to out-marry the most by far is Asian women (of the non-South Asian variety).

But studies do show that out-marriage rates for American-born Indian women are higher than those of their Indian male counterparts, so I can't discount what you're saying either.

I think for women - when it comes to marriage specifically - it's all about getting with the highest status guys they can possibly pull. Right now in the US, that tends to be white guys, so there's really no big reason for a woman to turn down the opportunity if it presents itself. Not that different than Indian dudes going after an attractive non-Indian woman when the offer is open. (Of course for guys it's physical attraction moreso than wealth/fame/power, but it's a similar dynamic I think).

Everyone - man or woman - ultimately wants the best deal they can get. It's a market.

The obesity factor you mentioned might have something to do with it. But then again, Indian women tend to be on the heavier side too, so it's not an entirely satisfactory explanation.

Found this commentary on another site:

Indians (and everybody else) need to knock it out the park.

I think Indian dudes have it the hardest when it comes to white chicks. I personally have never seen an Indian dude dating a white chick unless he was really bringing something to the table. These include:

Being Filthy Rich

Being Very Handsome

Being in an Elite Social Circle

There’s a lot of negative stereotypes that society has about Indian people… being dirty/smelly, being creepy/socially awkward, being nerdy.

It’s unfortunate because I know that this demographic makes up a significant chunk of the clientele/audience of PUA sites. But like I said, PUA advice does not increase your odds really. The only thing that might help is the getting out of the house/social aspect if the guy is a hardcore introvert.

Bottom Line: Hardcore Indian dudes need to absolutely do everything they can to knock it out the park with the stuff that matters.

Maximize your looks by lifting weights and dress well, get in with a cool social circle (made up of mostly white people), get money.

Also it’s in your best interest to consider moving somewhere like New York City or somewhere in Southern California.

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I don't quite get the glorification of thug, ghetto ass behavior in these last couple of posts here. Quite frankly, I don't want to hang around or be some wanna be rachetty ghetto motherfucker doing stupid thug shit just so I can eat some pussy. I think those Indian gangster wanna be's are pathetic. See this is the fucking problem with Indians, they're either so insecure about their race that it prevents them from developing proper social skills or they're so insecure that they glorify the stupid things that hood minorities do.

These guys are not play acting. They grew up shitty areas around gangs. I know a lot of UK Indian guys that have been to prison and/or have serious drugs issues.

It seems that a lot of RVF Indian crew are from upper middle class families. Working class Indians have different struggles.
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I remember spending the day with a male cousin and 2 of his female friends - one was Indian American and she told me that she didn't date Indian guys, but later she told me that she saw an Indian guy with a hot black girl and she got jealous, and thought that the Indian guy was hot.

This whole "Indian women avoiding Indian guys" thing I only hear about in the US. Nearly every single one of my UK born and raised female cousins had an arranged marriage with an Indian guy. Only one of them married a guy she was dating and he was Indian too.

My Indian American female relatives are nearly all with Indians too. I do have a few cousins married to black or Hispanic guys. The only one married to a white guy was initially married an Indian, then divorced and remarried.

In my experience some Indian American women have a thing for British Indian men, but I piss them off by telling them that the feeling isn't mutual. A lot of my Indian-American female cousins would love to bring a guy over from UK to the US, but the average British Indian has no interest in moving to the US.

Why bother with Indian-American women anyway? They tend to have a massive sense of entitlement and are usually not great in bed. I like UK Indian women a lot, but I never see them around Los Angeles.

Quote: (05-26-2018 09:50 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

I've noticed in general (for myself and my friends) that Indian guys get attention from black girls. It seems to be a general rule across the US. Definitely the case here on the East Coast, and I've heard simar things in the Midwest and West Coast. Would be surprised if the South is the one exception.

Regarding black women - a lot of black American women do seem to have an interest in Indian guys. I have a FOB cousin who moved from Punjab to the US on a green card many years ago. He's now married with kids, but he told me that when he sued to work in an AMPM, some black girls would give him their phone numbers and he banged a few of them. My cousin is very dark. 6'1" and look like Nat King Cole. The first American woman I ever banged was black.

“The point of me providing this list is this: There is no template and there is no need to "act" a certain way to impress a certain kind of woman. Stay true to your own identity first. Don't feel the need to adjust that identity to slay women. Once you are the best version of yourself, genuine women will be attracted to you, including the white ones, Indian ones and whatever. More comments on this in a subsequent post regarding my own identity.”

Pretty much what I was saying. This is trye for everyone, especially Indian guys. There is nothing wrong with being Indian. You have nothing to prove to anyone rlse. The only person you need to impress is yourself. Do that and success will follow.

^I disagree that you need to be some kind of superstar to date white girls. I actually know a good number of Indian/white couples. They are:

- short gujarati dude with big nose with a cute Jewish girl
- short South Indian premed with a cute white girl
-two of my uncles (indian doctor/engineer) with good looking white women from the south

This is just dating/marriage — every Indian guy I know has smashed white girls, most were 6+ in looks and the guys were pretty average people. They didn’t have “predominantly white” social circles. Neither did I for that matter (most of my friends were second-gen immigrants) and I smashed over thirty girls in college.

On top of that I haven’t even seen many Indian girls dating white guys, it really isn’t that common here on the west coast. There is a tiny group that dates interracially — with blacks and Latinos as well as whites — then a huge majority that goes for other Indians.

This is why I think overthinking about race is a losing strategy. There isn’t some massive SMV drop associated with being Indian, no more than there is with being any other brown ethic group.

"^I disagree that you need to be some kind of superstar to date white girls. I actually know a good number of Indian/white couples.”

When you see these statements, you will have to ask him these questions:

1. Did they meet from a cold approach or school/work/social circle?
2. What is the quality of the woman they are dating?
3. If they met from cold approach, how many girls did they open and how many times do they go out a week?

2 of my Indian friends is dating cute white chicks and both of them met through social circle, not from a cold approach from a night club. They had to work for it to get the girl. So even if I see a 5'7 Indian guy dating a 5'10 hot white girl, he probably worked hard to get her (whether they met through social circle, or the guy waited weeks on end to date her).

It's rarely the case where he met her through a night club and pulled her, this is very rare. I've only seen twice in my life where a short Indian guy pulled a cute white chick from a cold approach at a bar or night club, and I’ve went out hundreds of times.

How often do you see a short Indian guy pull a cute white chick from a night club from a cold approach? I live in Toronto and travelled to NYC where it's very diverse and I RARELY see this happen. I've almost never seen an Indian guy pull from a cold approach from a night club.

I've also joined the Toronto RSD inner circle and most of them are Asian or Indian. I've personally seen them in-field and I have almost never seen any of them pull a hot white chick from a cold approach at a night club. All I saw were them approaching chicks and talking to them, but to actually pull them and dick them is a rarity.

I'm not saying it's impossible. My Indian friends pull occasionally but they go out 3-4 nights a week and approach 20 girls a night to make this happen.

Overall, this is my 2 cents on this. I may be disparaged by a lot of hardcore posters on here but this is my 2 cents. Feel free to share your opinion.