Quote: (05-02-2018 01:12 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 12:28 PM)Kish Wrote:  

He is not just a coon. He is in the sunken place.


My message to Kanye is to:

GET OUT!!!

We have rules in place on this forum to debate a person's IDEAS not to make personal attacks. Kanye isn't a poster here, but why wouldn't you afford him the same?

Calling him a coon and depressed has nothing to do with the validity of his ideas.

Well the rules do not apply to non-members. We diss all kinds of people that do not post here everyday. I don't know why Kish is still on the forum to be honest. Excelsior doesn't provide him black porn pics anymore in the thread named for him (Rakishness). Either way, if he thinks he is a coon, it says more about him than Kanye. For a guy that has been on the forum as long as he has, and only has 5 rep points, I am honestly not surprised at all. Even most of the racist and "coonish" posters here have added more value than that.

Typical, more Uncle Tom, Coon, and of course the latest - sunken place.

Standard emotional tampon butthurt from guys who can't (or refuse) to explain themselves logically - instead they throw out half assed insults.

That's what bitch ass niggas do.


The fact is the sunken place is the Democratic Plantation.

You think the DNC gives a fuck about blacks? They don't.

Why? BECAUSE THEY'VE HEDGED ALL THEIR BETS ON THE LATINO VOTING BLOCK.

The latino population is growing at a faster rate than blacks.

Blacks are being displaced where they live and at work.

California is living proof of this, we have black flight from major cities where black families move out to the suburbs or low income areas outside of the city. I see everyday in the cities I drive by.

The sunken place is the DNC and the left demonizing conservatives and the right calling them the kkk and racists.

It's a divide and control strategy, and blacks haven't figured that out yet.

The ones that did leave the plantation and did become actually "woke" are called white washed, uncle toms, and good ol' boys, dancing for their mastuh!

The reality is, they HATE seeing successful rich black guys who have their money right.

The problem is, alot of the rich black males can't speak out against their DNC masters becuase their money comes from that base.

The black voting block has been so brain washed by their DNC liberal slave master and have been fed a perpetual victimhood mentality for decades.

It will take decades for this brainwashing to be erased and for them to think for themselves.

Delete.

Alright. Ill play.

What are this mans ideas?

This is a question to anyone willing to andwer. Ill take it serious if you are willing to do the same

Quote: (05-02-2018 10:07 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

A working link:

Quote: (05-02-2018 02:02 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  

Alright. Ill play.

What are this mans ideas?

Watch the video link I just posted. I know it's long but it is really good! I'm like almost half way through it and there hasn't been a dull moment yet.

Click on the title of the video to open it in a new tab. Youtube is not letting the video play through the forum. You have to watch it directly on Youtube.

Alright ill do that.

Quote: (05-02-2018 02:06 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  

This is a question to anyone willing to andwer. Ill take it serious if you are willing to do the same

It's really sad that YOU made claims about the guy in a thread covering many of his ideas and then you ask others to state his ideas for him in order to be willing to discuss his ideas.

That's lunacy.

If you're going to troll at least make it entertaining.

Kanye aside, I think most black people realize that switching to Republicanism would cause little to no difference. Republicans don't give a shit about blacks, either (or whites, or anyone else who isn't part of the power/ruling elite).

Both parties are broken and don't represent the interests of the people. Everybody is on their own right now.

@AneroidOcean hush. Maybe i was wrong to do that.im watching the video homie just posted and im halfway through it. I might have a change of heart soon. Be patient alright?

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Watch Hollywood cleave Kanye from the herd and let him wither in the wilderness.

Free speech isn't free.

My favorite part was the 1 hour and 6 minute mark where he was talking about looking perfect. That was some super deep real talk. That was a mic drop for me.

That interview was not what I expected it to be. Charlamange tried to bait him with Trump hate junk, but he deflected. I wish he hadn't but considering what he said the entire interview he isn't about negative energy or talk right now in his life.

Anyway, he appears to have redpilled on the music business, fashion, and even higher level business stuff before anything else. Lots of shit he said has a bunch of JQ implied angles in it. Not sure what impact, if any, that will have. That is, what it is basically.

There is a pervasive wall so to speak that black celebrities continue to hit over and over and over. An honest (redpilled) observer from the outside can see this, but they still have one foot in the door with it, for reasons that are obvious. (You cannot go full retard and start JQ'ing shit publicly) What makes it painful to watch is to see them attempt to remove themselves from that world, but have no choice but to continue to participate because too many things depend on them.

Which leads to another thing. He is starving to death for knowledge that is only generational. He wants the generational wealth, the powerful family, the giant enterprise, the accolades, the enhancement of others (even other blacks), without realizing a certain aspect of reality. One man, let alone, one generation, is not going to leapfrog what other whites and Jews have done in several generations, in a 20-30 span. That is a lack of understanding to think that grandiose. Some might tell me that my statement is thinking small, and whatnot, but there are examples in the Bible that explain this. Look at the reality around you. He is up against people that have fucking family crests within one or two generations back! No person with African DNA percentages like us come close to this. Even the Brown Paper Bag Gang isn't fucking with that level of wealth and information.

He still does not like humility as a concept. Only a person like that could never see this. God gave him such an amazing head start, that his children could make a Hilton level brand in something, if he trained them and exposed them to the right things and values. What he can do as a man alone has limits, but no one can explicitly outline what those are, so therefore to him it is beyond a galaxy and without measure.

Mindset wise this is great and all, but it lacks wisdom and perspective. Ends up being hollow in some ways. Lacks bite and a lasting sting pressure wise for legacy. He is on some Black Wall Street wanna be shit, like many of us woke black dudes are today, but where is the spiritual growth at? If feel Japanese or like Beyond Borders saying this, but he trains the body and the mind, but what about the spirit? Believe it or not this can impact the culture he wants to leave behind. His kids could all fizzle the fuck out. MLK's kids are all childless. Leadership or the absence of it has major impact on the lives of the next generation. You don't have to be Quintus Curtius to understand how important ethos is. Having a defined set of cultural values. Laid like a stone foundation. All these Jewish globalist bankers children have the easiest blueprints in life to follow. The rest of us have to piece together a treasure map from scraps of paper out of a flaming dumpster. It's not exactly fair, but that is just how life is for now.

Trump has a kindred spirit with him and that feels apparent to me, but he isn't brave enough to say it in the interview. He did say outside of the interview that he felt that if Trump could be president, he could too. Let's be real here. Trump and Kanye are narcissists. Both can speak about themselves alot. Both have huge amounts of confidence, right or wrong doesn't matter. Maybe he likes that aspect of Trump, like 99% of all rappers did before Trump ran for office. I give him props for that. The other rappers are chumps for flip flopping like weasels.

There was lots of other interesting things in the interview too, but I could be all day writing about that. I'll share the space with others to give feedback. Again, that was a great interview and really wasn't political at all. Even liberal black dudes here on RVF or outside RVF cannot knock too much on what Kanye is trying to do. It isn't much different than the stuff we are guilty of plotting on the forum or even on private chats with each other. Real talk.

Quote: (05-02-2018 01:20 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Well the rules do not apply to non-members. We diss all kinds of people that do not post here everyday. I don't know why Kish is still on the forum to be honest. Excelsior doesn't provide him black porn pics anymore in the thread named for him (Rakishness). Either way, if he thinks he is a coon, it says more about him than Kanye. For a guy that has been on the forum as long as he has, and only has 5 rep points, I am honestly not surprised at all. Even most of the racist and "coonish" posters here have added more value than that.

Uh oh! TravelerKai has more rep points than me!

Quote: (05-02-2018 01:12 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Kanye isn't a poster here, but why wouldn't you afford him the same?

Calling him a coon and depressed has nothing to do with the validity of his ideas.

The guy said slavery was a "choice". Why should I support him?

Quote: (05-02-2018 05:17 PM)Kish Wrote:  

The guy said slavery was a "choice". Why should I support him?

You need to understand what he was getting at.

He was saying, there were more slaves than masters, he's asking how come they didn't rise together, how come they didn't get sick of it?

They had a "choice" to rise up and kill their oppressors by the sheer numbers, but didn't, why?

Jim Morrisons The Doors - Five to One sings about this - "They got the guns, but we got the numbers"

Now obvious explanations are slave couldn't rise up because they were living in a state of constant fear, being made and an example of, etc.

He's not literally saying "slavery was a choice" and they were losers.



It's an open ended question to make you think - he's also explaining the prison the mind and group thought - especially how the left thinks.

Not to nitpick, but a basic fact got lost here: black slavery in America never existed for 400 years. It spanned from 1619 to the late 1860s. 240 years. I hear all the time people saying "300 years of slavery" "400 years of slavery". Not really.

And this replaceing harriet tubman with mj on tge currency?

Quote: (05-02-2018 05:17 PM)Kish Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 01:12 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Kanye isn't a poster here, but why wouldn't you afford him the same?

Calling him a coon and depressed has nothing to do with the validity of his ideas.

The guy said slavery was a "choice". Why should I support him?

You're so intellectually dishonest. You said you didn't like his ideas, but instead attacked him personally.

I point this out and you ask me why you should support him (something that nobody has said you should do). We merely asked you to break down why his ideas are wrong as opposed to merely attacking him personally.

That's just weak. Nobody here is claiming to be a badass but we're gonna point out your weak attacks.

Quote: (05-02-2018 05:44 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  

And this replaceing harriet tubman with mj on tge currency?

Harriet Tubman> Past - reminding of victimhood

MJ> Future - breaking from said mental chains

Remember the past, but Yee thinks we should be looking towards the future.

Slavery was not legalized until 1699, and it lasted until 1865. Any Africans in America before 1699 would have come over in indentured servitude situations, with important distinctions from slavery (no ownership, no trading, compensation required and offspring would have been freemen). African importation in the pre slavery days was tiny.

Slavery in North America lasted exactly 166 years. Sometime in 2033, The amount of time post slavery will be greater than the entire time with slavery.

Quote: (05-02-2018 05:26 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 05:17 PM)Kish Wrote:  

The guy said slavery was a "choice". Why should I support him?

You need to understand what he was getting at.

He was saying, there were more slaves than masters, he's asking how come they didn't rise together, how come they didn't get sick of it?

They had a "choice" to rise up and kill their oppressors by the sheer numbers, but didn't, why?

Jim Morrisons The Doors - Five to One sings about this - "They got the guns, but we got the numbers"

Now obvious explanations are slave couldn't rise up because they were living in a state of constant fear, being made and an example of, etc.

He's not literally saying "slavery was a choice" and they were losers.



It's an open ended question to make you think - he's also explaining the prison the mind and group thought - especially how the left thinks.

Everyone who is frothing at the mouth at Kanye's "Slavery is a choice" line is a fool who only consumed the 1:00 min viral video. In the longer video, he clearly explains what he is getting at which you explain well in your post. Kanye is forcing people to think and in quick order making a mockery of folks who simply just follow the crowd or as smart as a potato.

It is a simple and effective statement to make. ... Only when people can free themselves from the mental blocks will you truly be free ...

When the individual finds that ability to be free then the collective then becomes free. Society is in chains because people are afraid to think for themselves.

You see all over social media people are just dismissing this guy. People will post the *full* interview and you get stuff like this:

"Oh I don't have time for this"

"I get 3 mins in and all I see is some elitist mansion and I can't handle it"

You take in the full video and it is being measured and simple conversation which lots of avenues to get you thinking. Kanye (IMO) is forcing people to sit down, sit still, and actually use their mind. From the social media age, people are simply just consuming group approved content and not actually assessing or being critical of what they are consuming. If you actually sit down and listen, and think, Kanye makes perfect sense even if he is not the best are articulating it (he talks in laymen terms but with less structure just like Trump).

Quote: (05-02-2018 05:26 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

He was saying, there were more slaves than masters, he's asking how come they didn't rise together, how come they didn't get sick of it?

They had a "choice" to rise up and kill their oppressors by the sheer numbers, but didn't, why?

They were sick of it. That's why over 100,000 slaves escaped to the north using the underground railroad.

Also there were many slave revolts back then. The slaves tried to rise up it's just those attempts failed except in Haiti.

Quote: (05-02-2018 02:10 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 10:07 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

A working link:

Thanks for this video, in the middle of it right now.

I'm feeling Kanye's wavelength right now. He just wants information, he is searching for truth. He is opening his mind and his spirit in search of true direction.

He's still the same arrogant narcissist, who cares.

Kai, I'm not sure if Kanye is just getting into the red pill. He seems deeply into it right now. Perhaps we don't all take the same journey or go through things in the same order.

When he says things like 'no good or bad, things just are' or 'confront what bothers you', that's some of the deepest red pill understanding, the most fundamental to life itself.

Shades of Jordan Peterson and late LINUX posts, among many others