Quote: (10-05-2017 10:13 AM)Steve McQueen Wrote:  

Media tells anything 7 or above they deserve a male 10, she's gonna be a cat lady imo

I think there's a lack of normal looking women in the West. Maybe it's our high fat processed foods or whatever, but it seems like in order for a woman to not be fat she has to be addicted to the gym to the point of looking like an androgynous marathon runner. The lack of women at ideal average weight and curves means the super-lean gym rats have elevated SMV.

Quote: (10-05-2017 04:26 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

No one wants to bang her? I'll do it.

You mean to much to the cause Roosh, let me take that bullet for you. It would be an honor...and a pleasure, you know how I feel about white women!

Just a ploy to get even MORE attention, played ya'll.

I have a FWB who has a body similar to that. By far the best ass I've encountered.

Her low body fat and flat stomach just accentuate her tits and ass even more, I'm a fan.

WB the fitness model. Edit: Would not date.

Nothing is up to her standards. She sounds just as bad as the Jesus girls who compare every man they meet to God.

Nobody can sit here and think she does not get approached by large assortments of men. Typically these hot blondes get hit with tons of thrust via digital platforms, but in real life only select dudes will have the balls to approach. Her social circle should filter and bait dudes towards her as well so I don't believe her talk of men just not being around for her to pick from.

Of course, any busy man of value who has to use a matchmaker would never date sign up to be paired with a egomaniac woman who thinks she is a step below a Hollywood celebrity. This sort of man would make it explicit to not be pared with ego driven attention whore such as this woman.

She will end up alone because in her mind she just can't "settle". She will forever see herself as a queen even if the only colony she rules over is a troupe of cats. Women need to get over themselves. This whole toxic idea of a female only being able to land a MD, who has a high bankroll, flexible schedule, with NBA height and pornstar skills in bed needs to go to rest. More and more women end up alone because they can't come down to earth with that they want in a man, this girl is prime example of such lunacy.

Quote: (10-05-2017 04:26 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

No one wants to bang her? I'll do it.

Good ole' Roosh - always taking one for the team ;-)

I call dibs on her mouth.

Quote: (10-05-2017 11:56 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Nothing is up to her standards. She sounds just as bad as the Jesus girls who compare every man they meet to God.

Nobody can sit here and think she does not get approached by large assortments of men. Typically these hot blondes get hit with tons of thrust via digital platforms, but in real life only select dudes will have the balls to approach. Her social circle should filter and bait dudes towards her as well so I don't believe her talk of men just not being around for her to pick from.

Of course, any busy man of value who has to use a matchmaker would never date sign up to be paired with a egomaniac woman who thinks she is a step below a Hollywood celebrity. This sort of man would make it explicit to not be pared with ego driven attention whore such as this woman.

She will end up alone because in her mind she just can't "settle". She will forever see herself as a queen even if the only colony she rules over is a troupe of cats. Women need to get over themselves. This whole toxic idea of a female only being able to land a MD, who has a high bankroll, flexible schedule, with NBA height and pornstar skills in bed needs to go to rest. More and more women end up alone because they can't come down to earth with that they want in a man, this girl is prime example of such lunacy.

Problem with relatively attractive women (i.e. who's a 7 or above) these days is that they are a) drowning in attention and b) have most likely been riding the cock carousel since their early teenage years. End result is that they have effectively been rendered incapable of emotionally bonding with a man. Which is also why they are failing as mothers across the board, up to the point where their lack of progeny is starting to threaten Western civilization.

That is the true underlying tragedy, the nasty implication of fourth wave feminism which is increasingly making itself felt. And despite the fact that young and middle aged women are continuously told that they smashed the glass ceiling after defeating the patriarchy, the ugly little truth they are slowly finding out is that most of them are going to wind up extremely lonely and miserable throughout the second half of their lives. Deservedly so but unfortunately so will many of us.

In a dry spell, I contacted a similar agency. The rep told me they have many more women than men on the site, hence the exorbitant fee ($10K). Her sales pitch was a pretty solid beta trap - (former) models/beauty queens, screened for marriage/LTR interest.

Basically, it was a very high-priced version of seeking arrangement game, with recycled product being marketed at higher expense and risk. Not sure how they plan to compete with SA honeys that get the feels for their man. I didn't bother to ask for pictures, as it was clear these women are all clearly post-carousel (if there ever is a "post" carousel period for a WB), early wall at best.

They market to wealthy guys, but any businessman or red pill guy that's been through the US dating market knows the ROI and Reward V. Risk ratio is out of balance. I suspect a relatively lonely and high-achieving guy without game is the ideal mark, but damn, where have those guys been the last 30 years to fall for this deal?

$5000 for a young, non-fat woman to find a date? What kind of minus game level is she on? Instagram followers means nothing, it's just sad fuckers wanking at your pictures (I assume). Great accomplishment!

In 15 years' time she can demand her $5000 donation back from a cat rescue home because it literally shit on her car.

Surely these fitness chicks are getting constantly pummeled by the alpha musclemen from the gym? Genuine question.

Unless I misread, I find it to be particularly interesting that she gave up after the first date. Further, it sounds like she was super pissed that he wasn't into her. On a side note, she was looking for a millionaire yet apparently drives a jalopy. Double standards??

Anyway, what this says in the era of 'female empowerment' and supposed equality, is that women are now having to deal with what men have always dealt with, rejection. And they are obviously not handling it well. I notice it with my gf's friends, same story as with many of my ex's friends, but now it is more pronounced. The attractive ones can't make a decision, the less attractive ones don't realize how average-at-best they are.

Quote: (10-05-2017 12:32 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

$5000 for a young, non-fat woman to find a date? What kind of minus game level is she on? Instagram followers means nothing, it's just sad fuckers wanking at your pictures (I assume). Great accomplishment!

In 15 years' time she can demand her $5000 donation back from a cat rescue home because it literally shit on her car.

Surely these fitness chicks are getting constantly pummeled by the alpha musclemen from the gym? Genuine question.

In my gym there are several sixes and sevens who have jumped from one guy to the next, huge attention whores and all they go for are the top 10% (plus the bigger the better). Also see literally dozens of older skanks (> 40) who are clearly washed out and are desperate for male attention, but the older quality dudes are either in relationships or not interested. Still are acting like they're shit though, the level of cognitive dissonance is almost humorous to observe. Lonely dried up sad and mostly childless creatures (average children per woman here in Spain is 1.3) who once proudly rode the cock carousel but are now destined to spend their latter years surrounded by their cats and emotionally feeding off their past glories.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYrSgEOhOwI/

This is NOT the type of woman any man over 25 should even be remotely interested in.



This IS.

Like any other the relationship market is one of supply and demand. If men start to demand the latter instead of the former then market dynamics will shift rather swiftly. I think the pendulum may already be swinging the other way. The future of Western civilization does not belong to instagram whores. If it does then we are all royally fucked.

Where's the 8/10?

Quote: (10-05-2017 12:40 PM)CRR Wrote:  

And they are obviously not handling it well. I notice it with my gf's friends, same story as with many of my ex's friends, but now it is more pronounced. The attractive ones can't make a decision, the less attractive ones don't realize how average-at-best they are.

Wait til they turn 40, it gets even worse. Believe it or not, the older lizards are still pummeled by unattractive options. Their cougar-cub/FWB relations dead end logically, and "age appropriate, quality men" are in fresher fields. When any age appropriate guy declines attention, the sting is particularly hard. No, they don't like how that ends.

Someday, they will pass legislation to address this "condition," even more onerous than the current welfare state.

Sorry - no. I would pass on her. And I have lower standards than most on RvF but this type of woman is not attractive in the slightest.

I'd be more worried that my mighty Conan-esque spawn would smash her puny boy-pelvis as they launch into the world.

I love these threads that pop up so I can open some eyes for some of you to another world. I understand the disbelief, as one time I never even thought this world existed and that men and women met in the typical way; daygame.

But then this little gem came along.

For an update, the last month was pretty good. A Persian 7, a Korean 8 who showed up in a dress so short I caught a peek of lace early on. Banged her, and I think she gave me a fake number after. An Asian mix of some sort who is from Brunei that I am tempted to work on for a bit. She goes to bed at 930 and works for a psychopath (I know her boss).

In a city with a very attractive population, which also has a very high percentage of fags, it tends to lead women to believe that all the men are attainable. Also, men tend to not approach much these days, especially men over 30, so it leaves women in their mid to late 20's wondering where all the men are. So they drop $5k on dating services.

Truth be told, I am hoping they don't call me anymore. I want to try and curb my affairs somewhat and refocus the energy on business and family. These dates are worse than tinder because I don't know what they look like. Its very addictive, and the rush I get from blind dates is amazing. Its perfecting my sales pitch.

Thats not an 8/10 in my opinion.

Quote: (10-05-2017 10:29 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-05-2017 10:13 AM)Steve McQueen Wrote:  

Media tells anything 7 or above they deserve a male 10, she's gonna be a cat lady imo

I think there's a lack of normal looking women in the West. Maybe it's our high fat processed foods or whatever, but it seems like in order for a woman to not be fat she has to be addicted to the gym to the point of looking like an androgynous marathon runner. The lack of women at ideal average weight and curves means the super-lean gym rats have elevated SMV.

You go a little far here but it is crazy that after age 22-23 a lot decline precipitously. The real issue is that they've been conditioned to think traits classically masculine matter, not ones that accentuate feminine traits. Throw that into the ring of unaccountability, modern stress and working (male traits), and the foods --- no check on the quick devolution and low quality, rather than just being a historically reasonable woman.

She looks very masculine for me. Would not bang and would not date.

Quote: (10-05-2017 12:30 PM)Ranch Hand Wrote:  

In a dry spell, I contacted a similar agency. The rep told me they have many more women than men on the site, hence the exorbitant fee ($10K). Her sales pitch was a pretty solid beta trap - (former) models/beauty queens, screened for marriage/LTR interest.

Basically, it was a very high-priced version of seeking arrangement game, with recycled product being marketed at higher expense and risk. Not sure how they plan to compete with SA honeys that get the feels for their man. I didn't bother to ask for pictures, as it was clear these women are all clearly post-carousel (if there ever is a "post" carousel period for a WB), early wall at best.

They market to wealthy guys, but any businessman or red pill guy that's been through the US dating market knows the ROI and Reward V. Risk ratio is out of balance. I suspect a relatively lonely and high-achieving guy without game is the ideal mark, but damn, where have those guys been the last 30 years to fall for this deal?

Indeed, how many are truly unaware of how bad of an investment the approaching or post wall woman is in the West? Probably far more than I realize, but within 5 years I'm pretty sure it will have been talked about enough for people to start being honest about.

I've always talked about how going for a younger girl selects all the problems out: less time to be that much more promiscuous, less demanding, less cynical, and if you're interested in a wife --- young and fertile. Literally, a no brainer. The response is always something about being stupid. Umm, I'm pretty sure there are stupid people in every age bracket. Give me the other characteristics, since that is a silly one to assume on every person in a given group.

How is this remotely surprising? Ripped body-building girls are not at the top of the female food chain, but they expect to land ripped body-building guys who ARE at the top of the male food chain.

I've long thought that all of these hard core fitness chicks have immense difficulty landing the guy they think they deserve.

As time goes on the more I realise that the hook up culture is just a giant sham.

Guys are kidding themselves if they think this woman isn't an 8. 5-6 is by definition average. Have you seen the average lately? A seven is therefore by definition slightly above average.

Sevens are not pulling 200k instagram followers.

The bitch is an 8, even if she looks like a crossfit Frankenstein's monster from the neck down.