Has anyone tried HGH (human growth hormone)? There's an article in the latest issue of Vanity Fair all about HGH. It appears that most of Hollywood (at least the men) is using it.

Excerpt of article: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/...alth-trend

I looked up the cost, and in the DC area it appears to be $500/month (unverified) for a supply from a doctor. This is not that much money if you have reasonable means.

As a supplement to a proper work out program, I bet the results would be amazing. Obviously this is most relevant to older guys who don't already have a strong work out foundation.

do you need a prescription?

You should obviously do your research, but a quick google search suggests you can buy it online:
http://www.genf20.com/

There are other ways. Man....the quick gains you get of HGH will leave your body in ruins in older age. If you need a spike there are tons of natural T-boosters that will give you back that youthful edge.

How old are you?

HGH works differently than anabolic steroids because while steroids increase muscle size, HGH increases the size of all organs. This is why you see bodybuilders with huge stomachs (HGH gut). Also unlike steroids there is no scientific evidence of HGH increasing strength. Apparently although the muscle grows, it does not grow the same as through normal conditioning (or steroids). The muscle is not "real" and it gets bigger, but you do not get stronger. (which is why HGH testing in sports is pointless)




Nobody really knows the full benefits or risks of HGH use, some use it to heal ligaments, some to stay young but it does not have nearly the same research as steroids has had.

HGH is expensive for what it does. One needs to use it for six months minimum to notice anything. That is alot of money. not to mention there is some suggestion that it can also cause cancerous cells to grow.

still if you are rich and in your 40's/50's (natural hgh depleted) it's probably worth a shot for the anti aging benefits.

Quote: (02-15-2012 05:18 PM)Smitty Wrote:  

You should obviously do your research, but a quick google search suggests you can buy it online:
http://www.genf20.com/

as far as i can tell from that site, that is not actual HGH my friend.

Quote: (02-16-2012 06:15 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-15-2012 05:18 PM)Smitty Wrote:  

You should obviously do your research, but a quick google search suggests you can buy it online:
http://www.genf20.com/

as far as i can tell from that site, that is not actual HGH my friend.

Yea looks like snake oil... like all of those natural T-boosters out there

hgh to get the real deal is outrageously expensive, 500 a month, I couldn't see that being anywhere close to accurate, I would venture more in the 1500+ a month range if you can even find somebody to get you a script. There a shit ton of generics out of china that are cheap but with generics you never know what you're getting but there are a few brands that are decent and even those at 2 ius a day which is a basic beginner dose you could get away with under 300 a month.

There is a butt load of misinformation about gh, so called hgh gut is more likely a side effect of insulin than hgh, the notion that it'll leave your body in ruins is also untrue unless you're abusing it way too early. If you're 20 and taking 20 ius a day then you're playing with fire but in reality you probably don't need it until you're looking into your late 30s early 40s and beyond. If you're looking to at it for it its anti aging properties, weight loss, better skin and hair then taking a minimal dosage earlier can be done without it being detrimental to your long term health. If you're looking at it to put on size and enhance your physique besides the weight loss without steroids the results vs the price aren't worthwhile.

mikeymike,

You may well be right on the price...the $500/month did seem too good to be true. I don't know if I'll ever try it, but it wouldn't be for hulking up really. I'm willing to be that doctors in LA give movie stars scrips all the time, so I think it's just a matter of finding one that will write it for you based on a medical "need."

kosko, I dunno. I tried some T-supplement, but I never felt anything. I just have a lot of skepticism towards herbal/natural stuff. I know pharmaceuticals work because they always have their intended effect when I take them. I don't think I've ever felt that with any supplement I tried to date.

Quote: (02-15-2012 09:27 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  

HGH works differently than anabolic steroids because while steroids increase muscle size, HGH increases the size of all organs. This is why you see bodybuilders with huge stomachs (HGH gut). Also unlike steroids there is no scientific evidence of HGH increasing strength. Apparently although the muscle grows, it does not grow the same as through normal conditioning (or steroids). The muscle is not "real" and it gets bigger, but you do not get stronger. (which is why HGH testing in sports is pointless)




Nobody really knows the full benefits or risks of HGH use, some use it to heal ligaments, some to stay young but it does not have nearly the same research as steroids has had.

its actually the combination of insulin and GH which gives you the gut.igf-1 receptors in the stomach grow to huge sizes

Quote: (02-16-2012 01:55 PM)Menace Wrote:  

mikeymike,

You may well be right on the price...the $500/month did seem too good to be true. I don't know if I'll ever try it, but it wouldn't be for hulking up really. I'm willing to be that doctors in LA give movie stars scrips all the time, so I think it's just a matter of finding one that will write it for you based on a medical "need."

kosko, I dunno. I tried some T-supplement, but I never felt anything. I just have a lot of skepticism towards herbal/natural stuff. I know pharmaceuticals work because they always have their intended effect when I take them. I don't think I've ever felt that with any supplement I tried to date.

if you dig around and find the right doc with the right price you can prolly get a script but stars have access to funds most dont so for the average guy to find a doc to get an hgh script would be tough but if you find one let me know cause i'll fly down and get one myself lol

t supplements are a joke for the most part, if you're thinking gh you're not afraid of the odd poke have you looked at seeing a doc and getting your test levels checked, you could prolly get on a low level hormone replacement therapy its usually 200 mg of pharma grade test and that'll put a bounce in a 30+ year olds step if they feel like they're losing something as they age.

Quote: (02-16-2012 01:55 PM)Menace Wrote:  

mikeymike,

You may well be right on the price...the $500/month did seem too good to be true. I don't know if I'll ever try it, but it wouldn't be for hulking up really. I'm willing to be that doctors in LA give movie stars scrips all the time, so I think it's just a matter of finding one that will write it for you based on a medical "need."

no need to worry hgh wont hulk you up unless used in high dosages in conjuction with androgens and insulin.

Quote: (02-16-2012 09:37 PM)mikeymike Wrote:  

t supplements are a joke for the most part, if you're thinking gh you're not afraid of the odd poke have you looked at seeing a doc and getting your test levels checked, you could prolly get on a low level hormone replacement therapy its usually 200 mg of pharma grade test and that'll put a bounce in a 30+ year olds step if they feel like they're losing something as they age.

I actually have had my t levels checked and they are on the low end of the normal range. So I might try some replacement therapy to see how it goes.

Sustanon and ECA stacks, just watch out for acne baldness and growing massive breasts.

Quote: (02-20-2012 07:27 PM)billy Wrote:  

Sustanon and ECA stacks, just watch out for acne baldness and growing massive breasts.

not to mention fucking up ur bodies natural test production

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

Quote: (02-21-2012 03:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

fair enough. i don't know too many people that don't get shut down after using androgens even with a good HCG/ clomid/ AI protocol during and post cycle. but i'll just shut up....it's not worth the hassle.

Quote: (02-22-2012 03:19 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2012 03:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

fair enough. i don't know too many people that don't get shut down after using androgens even with a good HCG/ clomid/ AI protocol during and post cycle. but i'll just shut up....it's not worth the hassle.

I know of at least a couple dozen first hand that have the blood work to show natural test production pick back up after proper pct, its the blasters and cruisers that are never off that after long periods on have trouble rebounding but in most cases it does return tho more professional care may be needed... Im lifting with guys competing for their pro cards their blood tests are immaculate, and they use doses that the rec user doesnt go near...so if youre just trying to say itll shut your test production down in the short term youre right if youre saying permanantly youre wrong.

Something else to consider: low HGH levels = lower risk of cancer.

Quote: (02-22-2012 08:03 AM)mikeymike Wrote:  

Quote: (02-22-2012 03:19 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2012 03:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

fair enough. i don't know too many people that don't get shut down after using androgens even with a good HCG/ clomid/ AI protocol during and post cycle. but i'll just shut up....it's not worth the hassle.

I know of at least a couple dozen first hand that have the blood work to show natural test production pick back up after proper pct, its the blasters and cruisers that are never off that after long periods on have trouble rebounding but in most cases it does return tho more professional care may be needed... Im lifting with guys competing for their pro cards their blood tests are immaculate, and they use doses that the rec user doesnt go near...so if youre just trying to say itll shut your test production down in the short term youre right if youre saying permanantly youre wrong.

what doses are these dudes on? are we talking more than 1g of test a week? etc if these dudes havnt already got their pro card and they're on ridiculously high doses then tell them to give up

Quote: (02-21-2012 03:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

I agree with you on anabolic steroids, the media and doctors have been fear mongering for years and vastly overstate the dangers. (Although the dangers certainly do exist)


I don't think test and HGH are comparable though. Everybody agrees that steroids increase performance, from athletes to doctors and chemists, but there is very little evidence of benefits from HGH in fully grown individuals.

Quote: (02-22-2012 04:58 PM)alecks Wrote:  

Quote: (02-22-2012 08:03 AM)mikeymike Wrote:  

Quote: (02-22-2012 03:19 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2012 03:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

fair enough. i don't know too many people that don't get shut down after using androgens even with a good HCG/ clomid/ AI protocol during and post cycle. but i'll just shut up....it's not worth the hassle.

I know of at least a couple dozen first hand that have the blood work to show natural test production pick back up after proper pct, its the blasters and cruisers that are never off that after long periods on have trouble rebounding but in most cases it does return tho more professional care may be needed... Im lifting with guys competing for their pro cards their blood tests are immaculate, and they use doses that the rec user doesnt go near...so if youre just trying to say itll shut your test production down in the short term youre right if youre saying permanantly youre wrong.

what doses are these dudes on? are we talking more than 1g of test a week? etc if these dudes havnt already got their pro card and they're on ridiculously high doses then tell them to give up

yeah thanks for the hot tip, i'll get right on that.

Spoken like somebody who has never stepped on stage, never competed at a high level, has no concept of how few qualify for pro cards, the evolution of a bb'er, or how many factors come into play while trying to qualify... 1 gram a week isnt the magic bullet that either you're on that and qualify or you're not good enough...Your average rec users treading in the gram a week territory these days...

Funny thread this, I have a vial of Tren and 100 iu's of GH sat in he fridge as we speak, had them for a while and still unsure of taking the Tren, pretty settled in having a go for a 3 month kick of GH despite many telling me its a waste of money. I avoided test because I don't want bitch tits or the need to carry privrion/nova/letro etc. If the GH is worth it I will let the forum know in a couple of months.

Quote: (02-23-2012 07:37 PM)mikeymike Wrote:  

Quote: (02-22-2012 04:58 PM)alecks Wrote:  

Quote: (02-22-2012 08:03 AM)mikeymike Wrote:  

Quote: (02-22-2012 03:19 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2012 03:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I infer that none of you have actually run a cycle of HGH or any other anabolics.

Why even post about something you haven't experienced?

OP, there are a lot of boards where you can get solid information. Search around on the net and you'll find one.

There are a couple of guys here in the know, but they won't post, because these threads always lead to a bunch of ignoramuses trolling about the dangers (as stated by the media and fat medical doctors) of hgh and anabolics.

It's just not worth the hassle.

fair enough. i don't know too many people that don't get shut down after using androgens even with a good HCG/ clomid/ AI protocol during and post cycle. but i'll just shut up....it's not worth the hassle.

I know of at least a couple dozen first hand that have the blood work to show natural test production pick back up after proper pct, its the blasters and cruisers that are never off that after long periods on have trouble rebounding but in most cases it does return tho more professional care may be needed... Im lifting with guys competing for their pro cards their blood tests are immaculate, and they use doses that the rec user doesnt go near...so if youre just trying to say itll shut your test production down in the short term youre right if youre saying permanantly youre wrong.

what doses are these dudes on? are we talking more than 1g of test a week? etc if these dudes havnt already got their pro card and they're on ridiculously high doses then tell them to give up

yeah thanks for the hot tip, i'll get right on that.

Spoken like somebody who has never stepped on stage, never competed at a high level, has no concept of how few qualify for pro cards, the evolution of a bb'er, or how many factors come into play while trying to qualify... 1 gram a week isnt the magic bullet that either you're on that and qualify or you're not good enough...Your average rec users treading in the gram a week territory these days...

im not on anything dude. by rediculously high doses i mean what the the top pros are using (along with peptides and seo's).what im saying is that if these dudes are not pro's yet (very few turn pro) and they are on such high doses,then tell them to take a rain check.there are thousands of dudes hoping to turn pro and its obvious that they have surpassed their genetic limit.They try to compensate by going nuts on the gear and end up having 1: a horrible physique and 2: serious health problems,think dave palumbo