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This thread adds value.

Honestly guys here romanticize the reality of Western marriage up until the No-fault-divorce stampede began.

It was never expected of men to be 100% faithful to women. Back in the 1950s there were x-times more legal and illegal brothels than now. It was women which were expected to be faithful for a certain reason. Infidelity of a husband was not even grounds for divorce.

And frankly from all the personal divorce stories that I know in my family, acquaintances and friends that I witnesses close-hand I can say the following:

+ if the man was Alpha and cheated, then the woman newer left the guy on her own terms - sometimes the man would patch it up or sometimes he would leave for a younger thing, but the woman never divorced for that reason

+ I witnessed women leaving Dark Triad Alphas, but more for the reasons of being abusive (really abusive), being in prison (once again) or being a general psychopath - and even with those massive red flags - even then it can take a woman a long time to leave

+ otherwise legit reasons for divorce (almost all initiated by women) was alcoholism by the man

+ but the overwhelming majority of divorces happened because the guy was too Beta/Gamma and the woman was bored/"unhappy"/thought that she could do better/got so disgusted with having sex with her husband that she preferred to sow her wild oats again

And another thing I noticed - the sane women who divorced their husbands for a good reason - actual criminality, alcoholism - general assholery (some men are just too much of an asshole) - they have zero beef with the ex-husband. And funnily enough - all those sane women I know ended up in a better more fulfilling relationship (and stayed there - not the Gilbert kind of one where she married an older bloke and then turns lesbian when she cannot get any Alpha anymore).

Divorce stories by women are to be taken with a grain of salt.

As for marriage options - if you are a Hollywood exec the seduction is simply overwhelming. I know couples who are happy, had a monogamous marriage until 3 kids were born, then decided in their late 30s to keep it partly open - both are allowed to fuck around on the side within reason. And they are happy for now - though this works better the more Alpha the guy is.

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One woman I went on a date with but chose not to enter into a relationship said she only divorced her husband after she was physically knocked on her ass in the presence of her chldren.

And you believe these fairy tales? Until you get both sides of the story never believe anything.


As for Joss Whedon: he reminds me of that liberal male feminist professor from a few years back who would bang college girls on field trips. Anyone remember that guy's name? I love male feminist types, they are all hypocrites.

Can confirm. My mom tried to say my dad was abusive after they divorced but he never once hurt her. He told her friends she was in "survivors" meetings every week because of the divorce but he never abused her. I know this for a fact. If anything my dad was a pushover. He rarely spoke and just liked to be left alone and slept on the couch every night in silence, went to work, and came home. He was a pretty quiet and docile dude. In retrospect he was TOO relaxed and reserved.

I was at home once and my mom was on the phone with my aunt saying she has no idea where my father is and that he must be out cheating on her with other women and that she never knows where he is or what he's doing. My dad was literally WORKING in the garage. He worked out of the garage at that time doing an eBay business I helped him with packaging and sending deliveries everyday. He was clearly working. In plain fucking sight. I could see his head outside the window.

Also she called the cops on him once and told them he hit her when all he did was slam his hand down on the table and get in her face. I got in between them at that point but she calmly told 911 that "my husband just hit me" and the police came and entered the house. I had to vouch for him that he didn't hit her.

Then again my mom is probably on the BPD or Bipolar scale as she has shown some huge signs of mood disorder and straight up manic depressive behavior and insane lies but it just goes to show women will tell blatant straight up lies.

When I saw this shit in high school was some of my early red pilling. I knew women and people were capable of lying but to straight up fabricate stories out of thin air like that I never thought my mom was capable of. I knew if she was capable of it, other women were too. I had never before seen a woman not only tell a blatant lie, but a lie with NO BASIS IN REALITY like that before. The most fucked up part about it all is I think she actually on some emotional level BELIEVED her own lies.

The only way to deal with this is to hold them accountable. False accusation should be dealt with harshly with the same penalty that would apply to the accused if the accusation is true.

Sorry to be a biblenut but this may hold the answer:

Deuteronomy 19:18-19
''18 The judges shall inquire diligently, and if the witness is a false witness and has accused his brother falsely, 19 then you shall do to him as he had meant to do to his brother. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. ''

In the situation you shown above for the crime of false accusation she should pay the penalty of being the domestic abuser that she falsely accused her husband of being. No matter how much she protests her innocence.


If a capital crime then the capital punishment must be reversed on the false accuser.

Just as we never tolerate murder. We should never tolerate the evil of false witness.

Quote: (08-23-2017 02:32 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Honestly guys here romanticize the reality of Western marriage up until the No-fault-divorce stampede began.

It was never expected of men to be 100% faithful to women. Back in the 1950s there were x-times more legal and illegal brothels than now. It was women which were expected to be faithful for a certain reason. Infidelity of a husband was not even grounds for divorce.

In Shakespeare's day, to be called be a cuckold was the worst insult imaginable. The female equivalent is "cuckqueen" which obviously never caught on.

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+ I witnessed women leaving Dark Triad Alphas, but more for the reasons of being abusive (really abusive), being in prison (once again) or being a general psychopath - and even with those massive red flags - even then it can take a woman a long time to leave

As a married man with some moderately serious personality problems, I know very well that a woman can put up with a lot of crap if she values the relationship.

After thinking about this dude for a bit more, I think the psychobabble from LastPysch is too convoluted compared to a much simpler explanation.

He was married to a shrill, ugly, ball-busting cunt. Meanwhile at work hot young babes are throwing themselves at him. Narcissism has very little to do with it; Joss could have been raised by perfect Christian parents and it would have not mattered because he married a terrible woman. The temptation was too great, the love died immediately for Joss within two years of marriage after seeing hot young ass coming at him and going home to complaints and nagging from uglywife.

Occam's Razor says the above is the most likely and accurate explanation.

Quote: (08-25-2017 05:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

After thinking about this dude for a bit more, I think the psychobabble from LastPysch is too convoluted compared to a much simpler explanation.

He was married to a shrill, ugly, ball-busting cunt. Meanwhile at work hot young babes are throwing themselves at him. Narcissism has very little to do with it; Joss could have been raised by perfect Christian parents and it would have not mattered because he married a terrible woman. The temptation was too great, the love died immediately for Joss within two years of marriage after seeing hot young ass coming at him and going home to complaints and nagging from uglywife.

Occam's Razor says the above is the most likely and accurate explanation.

+1, and how seriously can you take an ex-wife who's former husband's SMV went sky-high in comparison to hers. Remember when Angelina was saying crazy shit about Brad, it made no sense, SMH Hamster Overdrive

Quote: (08-25-2017 05:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

After thinking about this dude for a bit more, I think the psychobabble from LastPysch is too convoluted compared to a much simpler explanation.

He was married to a shrill, ugly, ball-busting cunt. Meanwhile at work hot young babes are throwing themselves at him. Narcissism has very little to do with it; Joss could have been raised by perfect Christian parents and it would have not mattered because he married a terrible woman. The temptation was too great, the love died immediately for Joss within two years of marriage after seeing hot young ass coming at him and going home to complaints and nagging from uglywife.

Normally, I'd say yes, but there's too much going on in Whedon's history, including him constantly using his Feminist Mother as a shield by talking up her Typing, (which I've been unable to find any evidence of under any of her multiple names); the fact they he attended Wesleyan University, known for its batshit Feminist community; and his peculiar fixation on turning each of the women who work with him into 70's Earth Mother clones - the body and the long curled hair are very late 1970's on the Leftist side of the equation, (as opposed to 'The Farrah').

That's what really makes me fascinated with his psychology. Sure, I love certain traits in a woman, but if you looked at my parade of exes, they don't all have the same hairdo and body types. They're something uniquely-weird about this.

He was born in 1964 - another one for my theory that Gen X'ers before '65 are really Boomers. So he'd be noticing that girls aren't 'yucky' about '74-'77 or so.

His parents divorced when he was eight, and his strong-willed feminist mother swept him away from his father to England - Hello Gamma!

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Whedon enrolled at Winchester College, where his ability to quote Python came in useful for making friends.

Hello again, Gamma!

Now, a common 70's daytime look for most 'normal' girls of that era was long and centre-parted with no fringe. If they were going out on a big date, or dancing, maybe they'd get it styled, but, day to day... most girls had the Marcia Brady thing going on.









It always looked to me as if Whedon 'fixated' on a particular fetish during his puberty, and never moved on. Particularly if he got into any 70's porno mags. (LINKS NSFW).

http://www.tipiti.info/wp-content/upload...-p1032.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/12c8a15bda750...o1_500.jpg

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Note that the girl who played Willow had the hair everyone else does originally.

Back when Sarah Michelle-Gellar and Whedon were on the outs, he implied that maybe the Veronica Mars girl could take over the part.



It's strange and sad, but hilarious at the same time, especially when you think about the implications of this fetish.





Goddamn, I need to find a pic of his mother and see if she had the long, centre-parted hair.

Quote: (08-25-2017 11:36 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

That's what really makes me fascinated with his psychology. Sure, I love certain traits in a woman, but if you looked at my parade of exes, they don't all have the same hairdo and body types. They're something uniquely-weird about this.

It always looked to me as if Whedon 'fixated' on a particular fetish during his puberty, and never moved on. Particularly if he got into any 70's porno mags.

For many guys, fetishes start very early. I've had a cheerleader fetish since I was six.

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Note that the girl who played Willow had the hair everyone else does originally.

Alyson Hanigan is an interesting case. She had a fairly big role in My Stepmother is an Alien, back in 1988. The movie starred Dan Akroyd and Kim Basinger. In the movie, her character even had a date with a boy who was played by Seth Green, who would later play her boy friend Oz on BTVS.






While she was on BTVS, she got a lot of attention for playing Michelle in American Pie. That movie came out in the summer of 1999, which was between the third and fourth season. She played a character even more nerdy than Willow and then turned out to be a sex maniac.






In the middle of the fourth season, Joss turned the straight character of Willow into a lesbian. While many shows have featured gay characters, I don't know of very many who featured a character who turned from straight to gay. I'm very curious as to when this decision was made, as there was a little foreshadowing in one episode in the third season.

In real life, Alyson also married another actor from the Buffyverse. She married Alexis Denisof, who played the character Wesley. They are still together and have kids now.



I am seriously wondering about Joss's motivation for turning Willow gay now. Of course, she was busy on How I Met Your Mother. Yet, he hasn't hired her back for anything since BTVS ended in 2003.

Incidentally, another character and actress who didn't always follow the formula of hair parted down the middle was Cordelia Chase, played by Charisma Carpenter on BTVS and Angel.



Cordelia's storyline was also very telling. She starts out as the popular snobby cheerleader. She hooks up with the somewhat nerdy character of Xander. She is no longer "cool" and ends up hanging out with Buffy and the "scooby gang" by default. This may reflect Joss's unrequited desire to get with the cheerleader.

Finally, when BTVS ended in 2003, only one relationship was in tact. That was the lesbian relationship between Willow and Kennedy.

Now that she is older, Hannigan is showing her true scorn unit colors.

She is the official hot chick spokesmodel for Penn and Teller's series "Fool Us."

She spends all her time trying to make conversation with magicians while hiding the fact that she thinks they are creepy.

She is much worse at it than the Laker girls posing with fans:




Even when she isn't looking obviously grossed out, the fake enthusiasm on her face is so unconvincing, it might as well be trolling.

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Even when she isn't looking obviously grossed out, the fake enthusiasm on her face is so unconvincing, it might as well be trolling.

Standing to the side, she can usually see how the trick was done. I'm sure that makes her less enthusiastic about the reveal.

I like that show, but the quality of the magicians has fallen a bit.

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Even when she isn't looking obviously grossed out, the fake enthusiasm on her face is so unconvincing, it might as well be trolling.

Standing to the side, she can usually see how the trick was done. I'm sure that makes her less enthusiastic about the reveal.

I like that show, but the quality of the magicians has fallen a bit.

I don't think she knows how anything is done, least of all how her career disappeared.

Alyson was born in 1974. She was always too old for her major high-school roles. But she could pull off a certain nerd-girl charm until she was about 30. Now she has definitely hit the wall and is probably pretty self-conscious about it.

She also managed to have one series last for 144 episodes and another last for 206 episodes. So, she should be set for life. She'd probably rather be at home with her kids.

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Quote: (08-25-2017 05:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

After thinking about this dude for a bit more, I think the psychobabble from LastPysch is too convoluted compared to a much simpler explanation.

He was married to a shrill, ugly, ball-busting cunt. Meanwhile at work hot young babes are throwing themselves at him. Narcissism has very little to do with it; Joss could have been raised by perfect Christian parents and it would have not mattered because he married a terrible woman. The temptation was too great, the love died immediately for Joss within two years of marriage after seeing hot young ass coming at him and going home to complaints and nagging from uglywife.

Occam's Razor says the above is the most likely and accurate explanation.

+1, and how seriously can you take an ex-wife who's former husband's SMV went sky-high in comparison to hers. Remember when Angelina was saying crazy shit about Brad, it made no sense, SMH Hamster Overdrive

Maybe...But I raise these two points at you.

1: We didn't need the wife to tell us this. RVF figured this out years before she wife went public.

2: The dude isn't just banging on the side, he's promoting the ones based on who he's fucking at any given time......so because of him we get some shitty idol actresses.

3: Incidents like this should still be used. They're useful to us for the same reason that pastors fucking hookers is useful to the left.

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He was married to a shrill, ugly, ball-busting cunt. Meanwhile at work hot young babes are throwing themselves at him. Narcissism has very little to do with it; Joss could have been raised by perfect Christian parents and it would have not mattered because he married a terrible woman. The temptation was too great, the love died immediately for Joss within two years of marriage after seeing hot young ass coming at him and going home to complaints and nagging from uglywife.

Obviously he was married to a...not attractive woman, with younger women being thrown at him left and right.

So...why didn't he just get a divorce? Why keep up the image of the husband/father/feminist advocate? If his ultimate instinct is to chase young poon, why not just say, "Yeah, I'm a poon chaser" and not be in the closet about it?

Because his *image* of being a husband/father/feminist advocate was more important to him. He wanted people to perceive him in a certain way, even though he didn't want to take the real world actions to justify that perception. And he used the (false) perception people have over him to look down on others--hence all the Twitter posts he wrote looking down on toxic masculinity and other such BS. Good old narcissism.

The NYT, late to the show as usual, covers fake male feminists, including Josh Whedon.

‘Faux’ Male Feminists Draw Ire in Hollywood

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Critics of men who sport "The Future is Female" T-shirts also maintain that some are using the word “feminist” inappropriately. The preferred term, they argue, is "feminist allies." The rationale is that white people who fight against racism wouldn’t call themselves "black," just as straight people who rally for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights wouldn’t call themselves "transgender."

... and the final piece of the puzzle falls into place.

If you read my post in the Sigma Thread about my Gamma Stepfather's pattern of targeting emotionally-wounded and vulnerable women, or an earlier post about a Gamma Teenage Friend who tried to wife up the prostitute he lost his virginity to, the disconnect between Whedon's SMV and his most obvious success, CrazyHot Eliza Dushku, was just revealed to have logically-followed my suspicion.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/eliza-...202663967/

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In a Facebook post, Dushku wrote that she was assaulted [at 12] while working with Kramer on the 1994 James Cameron film “True Lies.” According to her post, Kramer molested her in a Miami hotel room, where he “laid me down on the bed, wrapped me with his gigantic writhing body, and rubbed all over me.” Kramer would have been 36 at the time.

Dushku alleges that he “methodically built my and my parents’ trust, for months grooming me,” and told her parent that he would take her for a swim in the hotel’s pool. Instead, her took her to his hotel room, where he “disappeared in the bathroom and emerged, naked, bearing nothing but a small hand towel held flimsy at his mid-section.”

Beyond the obvious, this is where I predict things will get very interesting.

I immediately thought:

- True Lies
- Schwarzenegger
- I bet Kramer was close to him
- Yes, he was his stunt double
- I bet he was in his circle long enough to have also worked on Predator
- Yes, he's listed on the IMDB for it
- Someone else was in Predator when she was very young



- Someone else who is now, well, batshit enough, that I'd mentioned before that a history of sexual abuse was obvious.



Are you starting to see?

^ Something else to consider.

- Schwarzenegger's long relationship with James Cameron

- James Cameron's vocal and public feminism

It explains the eyes, even at a young age.

Quote: (01-14-2018 04:28 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

It explains the eyes, even at a young age.

The dark circles are a common tell of a child who is being abused.



Brandis committed suicide in 2003. Note that he worked for Spielberg.

Quote: (01-14-2018 06:45 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

The dark circles are a common tell of a child who is being abused.

How come? Not enough sleep? Crying at night?

AB - that is Alyssa Milano playing Arnold’s daughter in Commando.

Just read the article, sounds like bullshit with Dushku and Kramer.

Her “guadian” claims she reported his alleged sexual assault of Dushku to “someone of authority” during filming and was met with blank stares.

But they just kept ooooon filming.

Sidenote - Dushku also claims she thought he’d been “found out” and was out of the business.

This guy just worked on Bladerunner 2049 and Fast and the Furious 7.

You’d think she would have know that he was still working.

^
I think you mean Commando (for Milano).

edit: Fisto beat me to it

Quote: (01-14-2018 08:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

AB - that is Alyssa Milano playing Arnold’s daughter in Commando.

I know, mate, I got my Arnie Films mixed up - I'm largely-ignorant of 80's film culture - but the guy is on all three sets. You probably missed an earlier discussion where I theorised Alyssa was probably sperging out so badly over Trump due to childhood sexual abuse and have been looking for the connections.

We'd noted her early appearance in 'Commando', and now there's a confirmed abuser on her set. I've also noted the (((Producer))) of 'Who's The Boss?' was involved in other child-heavy sitcoms where the kids involved, didn't turn out too well. (1) Which had been leading me to question the Spelling connection, since so many of their shows involved young actors.

It's why I posted a picture of her with similarly-batshit Rose McGowan when they both starred in Charmed, so people can start seeing the deeper connections at play.

Who is the third girl in the picture? I always thought the third sister was that chick from 'Beverly Hills 90210'?

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(1) One of these would be Ricky Schroeder, who now works as an anti-child abuse spokesman.

Yes missed it. Apologies.

So did you mean Predator or Commando?

She wasn’t in Predator as far as I know.

^ She's in 'Commando'. The abuser is on both sets.

My apologises too. This stuff is an emotional trigger for me and my mind burns with fury and fire.

I've had first hand experience with seeing how people turn a blind eye to this kind of thing. Those in power know. They always know. They just don't care.

Here's one example, amongst many:

Quintus mentioned liking a very famous Australian Movie to me recently, and I could hardly say "Yeah, one of the Stars - a beloved Australian Icon - used to pay one of the street kids I knew in the area to fuck him up the arse back when I lived on the streets. For any Australians - I was near the infamous 'Wall' in Darlinghurst. He was only 13, but a late developer, so looked a lot younger. About a year later, he started growing pubic hair, and the guy instantly dropped him. The kid thought he loved him."

Interestingly, the Star's very famous son has battled drug and alcohol problems for decades. I keep waiting for the Cunt to die, but notice he's been stage acting in England. 'Peter Pan'. How nice for the children.

I can see why I turned into a Sigma, and realised how worthless social status and celebrity are.