European nationalists can be prideful about Europe's culture and history but at the same time recognise there's little to feel proud about in today's stock of European men. Most are hopelessly blue pill and welcome the destruction of their ancestors' homelands.

Whilst I do believe that Europe will eventually get it's shit together (when they face 'hard times' and become 'strong men' once again) it's tragic to see how much ground we will have to lose before this comes to fruition.

The rise of totalitarian states, the parasitic welfare system, feminist "liberated" women and and pussified men who all hold open the gates to the barbarians is something to be lamented, and by exposing just how profound this downfall is from Europe's great heights maybe it'll encourage more Saxons to begin to hate.

Quote: (07-09-2017 11:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I'm not glossing over it at all. I was just making the point that peoples and nations are a lot more resilient than all the "Gloom and Doom" people think.

I was making that point that Germany has been through things 100 times worse than this refugee crisis. It survived that, and it will survive this. Not only will it survive this, but it will become greater, better, stronger, and more dynamic.

Europe will survive if it deserves to survive. If it has the strength, the resiliency, and the tenacity to survive--which I know in my bones that it does--then it will use this crisis to rise to the challenge. It will create new institutions, find new, dynamic leaders, and will rebuild its ossified structures to come back better, bigger, and stronger than ever before.

Can you wrap your mind around that? I find it ironic that those who profess to European nationalism have so little confidence and so little faith in the very object that they hold dear.

Struggle and conflict are part of life. Peoples and institutions respond to external challenges. They adapt, they overcome, and they find ways of solving problems.

Reading these threads is like walking through a fucking mortuary filled with hand-wringing old women, wailing about the end of the world. What is this whining mentality? Get a grip on yourselves, and stop acting like a pack of sobbing women.

There are great people in Europe, and there are great leaders. But they have not yet been able to show their cards fully. The time will come--soon--when people will really see what England, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy are capable of.

I believe in Europe.

I believe in Germany.

I believe in France.

I believe in Spain.

I believe in Italy.

Don't you ever despair.

I don't wail on about anything actually and you're falling for the nationalism trap like so many are. You think when something does start its going to be just aimed at a single group or two of them?

I am English and I don't subscribe to being called European nor do I give a damn about the nationalism of other countries.

You say Germany will be stronger after all of this settles down. Settle down after what exactly? This is the part I said you're glossing over with historic pride and rose tinted glasses about European culture.

Millions died to get where we are and the generations who fought for it are gone and forgotten. So now we're faced with another multi-generation struggle to ensure the future of Europe and how many people will be killed to do it?

The bolded part is interesting because right now we are in a struggle, a struggle which started almost two decades ago now and it is creating greater and greater divides. We are approaching the 'if you're not with us' mentality across a large spectrum of people.

Europe will survive and I know this too but the jouney to reach it will be bloody. Its not being a wailing old woman when calling out truths and bullshit.

Quote: (07-08-2017 05:19 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

For anyone who is interested, Douglas Murray has written a fantastic book on the migrant crisis, the reasons for this European self-loathing and existential malaise. It's called 'The Strange Death of Europe', available at fine bookstores everywhere, and on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-E...1472942248

It's a balanced and thoughtful examination of the current situation and the European tiredness that underpins it all.

If you want to get a sense of this guy, he was just on the Sam Harris podcast:

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/i...-of-europe

I agree with QC's post generally, but the part that has me worried isn't that Europe is under attack, it's that Europe is under demographic attack, aided and abetted by a fifth column bigger that the first four columns, in the form of the extreme left and a willfully ignorant population.

Europe will be saved, but at the cost of our civil liberties. The globalists will switch their allegiance when the time is right to exterminate Islam, but in exchange for our freedom. It win't be sold as blatantly as this, but the set-up is obvious.

The argument Douglas Murray makes, which I found compelling, is that the people of Europe are tired. There's been a tremendous sense of guilt since WWII. We knew about the transportation of the Jews and did nothing to intervene, we willingly deported Russian soldiers back to the USSR where they were put into prison camps in their 10's of thousands, and nationalism has become such a filthy concept for obvious reasons that the overall effect is one of self-loathing, and a feeling by those in power that Europeans deserve to be replaced, as a punishment. This is masochism, of course, and what makes it so bad is that it is practiced by sadists.

There is a very strong feeling, even (perhaps particularly) amongst the educated, that there is nothing much to be proud about in our European culture any more, and that reinvigorating it is too complex and tiresome a task to undertake. Combined with this sense of obligation to the world's poor and downtrodden, the cumulative result is one where resurgent European nationalism, patriotism, and pride in our culture and history is in my view extremely unlikely to make a reappearance without very deliberate efforts to reintroduce it. Even then, given the numbers of people we're introducing every day, I suspect we are fast approaching the point at which this kind of organic reawakening and peaceful transition is unlikely to occur.

This wouldn't be so terrible were it not also for the fact that as a people we've lost nearly all our ambition and drive to be pioneers. It's like we're grateful for having been able to pass that mantle to the US. I've lost track of how many times I've been asked by smart, successful career focused friends of mine why I don't give up the struggle to build an innovative tech business, and just get the good, well paying job I could easily get. It's a sad state of affairs.

H1N1,

I think the elites know the world economy and a lot else will blow up soon and are importing immigrants as misdirection.

Among the educated classes, Europe's attitude seems also to be a perversion of Christianity. They are loving their neighbor, but not themselves. It is all very well to show hospitality to a stranger. The flip side should be, how will it affect your actual neighbors, not to mention their daughters?

They are not being wise as serpents and gentle as doves, they are sticking with being doves.

You probably know more about Tommy Robinson than I do, but from what I have seen, he paints a compelling picture of how it is for your average Englishman, whether white, black, or Indian, so long as they consider themselves English, when this huge demographic shift happens, and the police and politicians become afraid of riots and attacks if they ever bring an individual Muslim to justice.

And for all that, even Murray, on that podcast, when asked about Robinson, suddenly became very vague and general, like he didn't want to touch someone like Robinson with a ten foot pole.

I can't believe there aren't plenty of Englishmen who think like Robinson, and if it gets bad enough they might get organized and stop caring about being called Nazis when they talk about what's really going on.

Are they really too tired? Do they really believe that they are so irredeemably morally inferior that they will just let their cities and towns go to the Caliphate?

There are cob houses in the U.K. that have stood through centuries of history, and it will all be over soon because people would rather commit societal suicide than be called racist?

I am really having a hard time believing this. There must be forces at work I am not seeing.

Quote: (07-09-2017 03:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

I am really having a hard time believing this. There must be forces at work I am not seeing.

The frog couldn't see the water temperature rising as he was boiled ever so slowly.

But now he's boiled.

America needs to take note, before it's too late here too.

Quote: (07-09-2017 03:25 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

The argument Douglas Murray makes, which I found compelling, is that the people of Europe are tired. There's been a tremendous sense of guilt since WWII. We knew about the transportation of the Jews and did nothing to intervene, we willingly deported Russian soldiers back to the USSR where they were put into prison camps in their 10's of thousands, and nationalism has become such a filthy concept for obvious reasons that the overall effect is one of self-loathing, and a feeling by those in power that Europeans deserve to be replaced, as a punishment. This is masochism, of course, and what makes it so bad is that it is practiced by sadists.

There is a very strong feeling, even (perhaps particularly) amongst the educated, that there is nothing much to be proud about in our European culture any more, and that reinvigorating it is too complex and tiresome a task to undertake. Combined with this sense of obligation to the world's poor and downtrodden, the cumulative result is one where resurgent European nationalism, patriotism, and pride in our culture and history is in my view extremely unlikely to make a reappearance without very deliberate efforts to reintroduce it. Even then, given the numbers of people we're introducing every day, I suspect we are fast approaching the point at which this kind of organic reawakening and peaceful transition is unlikely to occur.

This wouldn't be so terrible were it not also for the fact that as a people we've lost nearly all our ambition and drive to be pioneers. It's like we're grateful for having been able to pass that mantle to the US. I've lost track of how many times I've been asked by smart, successful career focused friends of mine why I don't give up the struggle to build an innovative tech business, and just get the good, well paying job I could easily get. It's a sad state of affairs.

This might be how the average joe thinks, but there's a massive resurgence of interest in European history, culture, language, architecture and it's driven by conservative movements everywhere.

The Gen Z, the 14-18 year olds, are massively right wing. They're the most socially conservative generation since the greatest generation. They would vote Trump to victory by a large margin.

They aint seen nothing yet. The next generation is lost for the globalists. All this internet trolling and redpilling has paid off.

I do think it will be a long while before Europe is back to "normal" whatever that is. The East Bloc had 80 years of brutal communist rule. Can you imagine that? 3 generations or more of despair.

Quote: (07-07-2017 11:15 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2017 10:55 AM)Dusty Wrote:  

Wait, I thought celebrities were suppose to LEAVE the USA when Trump won?!

Despite what he says, Clooney is revealing his true preference with his actions. Deep down he knows America is better for him and his family under Trump (dare I say, great again?).

So basically he used his fame and his political connections to lobby for endless Islamic migration all across Europe. And then when the ugly consequences of his beloved globalist ideology start affecting him or his family he's getting his ass the hell out of Dodge. Fucking hypocrite and #collaborator. They should refuse his entry at the border.

We shall never ever let him forget about this. Every time when he opens his fucking mouth about human rights and unbridled migration he should be confronted about being a coward and a hypocrite.

That pretty much sums it up. But let's not forget his connections to the Soros family as well as with the Clintons, which he's known to be chummy with for years.

Sorry for using a tired analogy but:

German Jew pessimist 1935: "This shit looks bad. Is anyone else seeing where this is going?"

German Jew optimist 1935: "Stop being such a whiny fag. In a few decades we're going to have our own fucking country. It'll be totes great. I'm tired of hearing this crap. The Jews have survived bad times before. We'll do it again."

German Jew pessimist 1935: "Maybe you're right. I was going to pry this board loose, jump out of the cattle-car and take my chances in the snow but perhaps better times are just around the corner."

This is something I had to make clear to Phoenix post-ban. The nature of the preparations we have to make are not suitable for online discussion. If I buried 1k ammo with food and a black market rifle on the weekend do you think I'd be talking about that shit on the forum to "keep a focus on solutions rather than idle complaining"?

Most of the shit we do, particularly outside of America, CANNOT be discussed online. So guys like me might come here to vent because we can't talk about fucking globalist (((elite))) conspiracies and muslim invasions with the other soccer dads at the local little league, but that doesn't mean we're just sitting on our asses doing NOTHING while bitching and moaning.

And frankly I'm getting sick of hearing that.

Quote: (07-09-2017 02:46 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (07-08-2017 05:19 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

For anyone who is interested, Douglas Murray has written a fantastic book on the migrant crisis, the reasons for this European self-loathing and existential malaise. It's called 'The Strange Death of Europe', available at fine bookstores everywhere, and on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-E...1472942248

It's a balanced and thoughtful examination of the current situation and the European tiredness that underpins it all.

If you want to get a sense of this guy, he was just on the Sam Harris podcast:

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/i...-of-europe

Also with Mark Steyn promoting his book:

Geert Wilders called out the Dutch PM in regarding to Islam.

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Quote: (07-09-2017 10:03 PM)komatiite Wrote:  

Quote: (07-09-2017 02:46 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (07-08-2017 05:19 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

For anyone who is interested, Douglas Murray has written a fantastic book on the migrant crisis, the reasons for this European self-loathing and existential malaise. It's called 'The Strange Death of Europe', available at fine bookstores everywhere, and on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-E...1472942248

It's a balanced and thoughtful examination of the current situation and the European tiredness that underpins it all.

If you want to get a sense of this guy, he was just on the Sam Harris podcast:

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/i...-of-europe

Also with Mark Steyn promoting his book:

The metaphor about Europeans being masochists who end up in a bondage dungeon and find out there's no safe word was hilarious.

Murray, like Milo, is a gay British conservative from a bourgeois background. It is not surprising these guys realized earlier than most exactly how fucked we are.

Quote: (07-08-2017 08:07 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

All that's true, more or less. But we have to remember the nature of living organisms. When their backs are up against the wall, people become resilient.

Haven't we forgotten the far worse catastrophes that Europe has suffered in the twentieth century, where millions of Europe's finest men perished in mud and shell-bursts?

Haven't we forgotten how Germany was a battle-ground for all the great powers from 1620 to 1648, and lost nearly a third of its population?

Haven't we forgotten how, for centuries, the Ottoman Turks were hammering on Europe's back door in the Balkans?

And what about the terrible plagues of the Middle Ages, that depopulated so many regions?

You get the point.

Have some confidence, guys. Have some faith. Sometimes people and societies, when they are waking up from a long sleep, take time to readjust themselves. This is in the nature of things. If there is to be instability and violence in the short term, then maybe this is the price that has to be paid to compensate for decades of weakness, ineptitude, and corruption. If it is to come, then Europeans will respond as they always have in the past: with quiet resolution and determination.

Germany rebuilt itself from the ashes after 1945 faster than anyone could have imagined. The Germans are a great people and will rise to the occasion. I have faith in them, even if I do not respect some of their leaders.

But out of this cleansing fire--out of this churning maelstrom of conflict--something stronger, better, and healthier will rise.

Europe has survived all these terrible events in the past. Let her never despair.

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Quintus you are missing something - Europe in all those instances you described was 98% white and Caucasian. Japan and China even went through massive famines as well with halving of the population centuries and millennia ago. But they remained China.

Wars between de-facto Christian brothers don't matter. There are a few less people and then things go on as before. Germany rebuilt itself because it was a country populated by 100% productive Germans (and the NAZI money siphoned off before the war came back with force from Switzerland - also the US helped financially).

Japan even with 50 mio. Japanese will be Japan.

Spain managed to retain their identity because it fucking wiped out and threw out every last Muslim out of their country.

What will Europe be when the UK will stop being majority White in 2040? What will Sweden be when the Muslims are at 30%?

Will Europeans wage war and kill or oust every last Muslim and many blacks?

Sure - there are plenty of Indians, Sikhs, real Asians, also many productive blacks who would join us in the fight against Islam and the savages, but there is no way in hell that Europe will engage in this kind of massive uncontrolled genocide.

Even after a victory with Islam and 1 bio.+ Muslims dead across the world, then what do you do with the many non-Whites (including many Ex-Muslims) in the ranks of the West?

There won't be any White countries left and cultures will be almost extinguished except for EE (if they are lucky).

Europeans can prevail even if they brutally beaten and slaughtered, so long as some remain and their host countries remain united - AND MADE UP MOSTLY BY THEM ONLY. That thing is currently destroyed by the globalists and it will be gone likely for quite some time.

Quote: (07-08-2017 11:32 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I would be interested how the Chinese would treat Pakistani rape gangs. My guess is that within 6 months of the beginning, the men including some friends and family members of theirs would have been rounded up by SWAT teams, convicted within 2 weeks before a judge and shot. Then the family would have to pay for the bullets.

You forgot an important detail. The terrorists' organs would be harvested and sold.

Quote: (07-10-2017 02:42 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quintus you are missing something - Europe in all those instances you described was 98% white and Caucasian. Japan and China even went through massive famines as well with halving of the population centuries and millennia ago. But they remained China.

Wars between de-facto Christian brothers don't matter. There are a few less people and then things go on as before. Germany rebuilt itself because it was a country populated by 100% productive Germans (and the NAZI money siphoned off before the war came back with force from Switzerland - also the US helped financially).

Japan even with 50 mio. Japanese will be Japan.

Spain managed to retain their identity because it fucking wiped out and threw out every last Muslim out of their country.

What will Europe be when the UK will stop being majority White in 2040? What will Sweden be when the Muslims are at 30%?

Will Europeans wage war and kill or oust every last Muslim and many blacks?

Sure - there are plenty of Indians, Sikhs, real Asians, also many productive blacks who would join us in the fight against Islam and the savages, but there is no way in hell that Europe will engage in this kind of massive uncontrolled genocide.

Even after a victory with Islam and 1 bio.+ Muslims dead across the world, then what do you do with the many non-Whites (including many Ex-Muslims) in the ranks of the West?

There won't be any White countries left and cultures will be almost extinguished except for EE (if they are lucky).

Europeans can prevail even if they brutally beaten and slaughtered, so long as some remain and their host countries remain united - AND MADE UP MOSTLY BY THEM ONLY. That thing is currently destroyed by the globalists and it will be gone likely for quite some time.

I think this is a self-solving problem, because borders tend to be along ethnic lines. Multikulti only exist during good times, and those are ending fast. When civil war will broke out, whites will flee or get killed, either way areas will be balanced by blood to be homogeneous.

Do not forget how much Europe's borders changed in the last 1000 years. I am 100% sure Germany will brake up to smaller parts for example.

Also, USA's borders can change just as well. Nothing is permanent.

Quote: (07-10-2017 07:55 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2017 02:42 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quintus you are missing something - Europe in all those instances you described was 98% white and Caucasian. Japan and China even went through massive famines as well with halving of the population centuries and millennia ago. But they remained China.

Wars between de-facto Christian brothers don't matter. There are a few less people and then things go on as before. Germany rebuilt itself because it was a country populated by 100% productive Germans (and the NAZI money siphoned off before the war came back with force from Switzerland - also the US helped financially).

Japan even with 50 mio. Japanese will be Japan.

Spain managed to retain their identity because it fucking wiped out and threw out every last Muslim out of their country.

What will Europe be when the UK will stop being majority White in 2040? What will Sweden be when the Muslims are at 30%?

Will Europeans wage war and kill or oust every last Muslim and many blacks?

Sure - there are plenty of Indians, Sikhs, real Asians, also many productive blacks who would join us in the fight against Islam and the savages, but there is no way in hell that Europe will engage in this kind of massive uncontrolled genocide.

Even after a victory with Islam and 1 bio.+ Muslims dead across the world, then what do you do with the many non-Whites (including many Ex-Muslims) in the ranks of the West?

There won't be any White countries left and cultures will be almost extinguished except for EE (if they are lucky).

Europeans can prevail even if they brutally beaten and slaughtered, so long as some remain and their host countries remain united - AND MADE UP MOSTLY BY THEM ONLY. That thing is currently destroyed by the globalists and it will be gone likely for quite some time.

I think this is a self-solving problem, because borders tend to be along ethnic lines. Multikulti only exist during good times, and those are ending fast. When civil war will broke out, whites will flee or get killed, either way areas will be balanced by blood to be homogeneous.

Do not forget how much Europe's borders changed in the last 1000 years. I am 100% sure Germany will brake up to smaller parts for example.

Also, USA's borders can change just as well. Nothing is permanent.

Glaucon, your point is hypothetical. Technically you are correct of course but it is a process that either happens over extended periods of time (and thus produces such homogeneous population due to mixing) or in very short periods of time due to genocide a.k.a. civl war based on race, culture, religion, etc..

What Zelcorpion as well as yours truly are referring to is the cultural and genetic heritage of the German people as well that of the Brits, the French, the Swedes, etc. All these countries share similar genetic traits and despite centuries of war against each other those traits have never been at risk. Even when at the end of WW2 hundreds of thousands of German women were raped by Russian, French, and yes American soldiers, the net effect on the German gene pool was minimal.



This map is probably just a rough approximation but it is clear that even Russians, Poles, Hungarians, etc. (i.e. Slavs) feature predominantly the R1A haplogroups which are still considered WHITE (yes, the details are debatable and I'm not a geneticist but a Ukrainian beauty looks white to me, sorry) and considered closely related to the R1B haplogroups. So German women getting raped by French or Russian soldiers still produced white looking babies who were easily accepted into German culture and society. I am pretty certain that many German members here would be surprised if they found out that they actually had a granddad they didn't know anything about. War is ugly and women at the time were obviously not eager to share pertinent experiences.

But anyway, now compare the past 2000 years of conflict in Europe with the current migrant invasion. These invaders come from completely different cultural and GENETIC backgrounds and once a certain threshold has been reached they will change German society FOREVER. What are future European reconquistas are supposed to do? Hunt down all the children of 'race traitors' who fornicated with someone outside their genetic pool? That's simply unrealistic and most likely will not happen unless we see the emergence of Hitler 2.0 on steroids. And even then the rest of the world would not stand by idle while Teutonic death squadrons commit widespread genocide followed by an extensive campaign of eugenics. But if it happens I'll happily participate in the latter should they run out of specimen ;-)

Don't get me wrong guys. I absolutely adore and appreciate a constructive and positive mindset but it must have reasonable odds of being realistic. At a time when the most popular name among newborns in various large European cities happens to be Mohammad it is time to face the facts. Which are that our genetic European heritage has ALREADY been dismantled and will never ever return to anything resembling prior conditions. That ship sailed in 2015 when the Germans permitted the final onslaught of what had already been an unbearable trickle of ME and African migrants into Britain and France over the prior decades.



Over the coming two decades we will witness IQ scores drop by nearly one standard deviation (assumed 15 IQ points). In France along IQ scores have already dropped by 5 or 6 handles in the past decade, a trend I expect to continue and mirror itself in places like Germany, Britain, and of course Sweden. The impact this alone will have on European nations (if they still exist at that point) is tremendous and if nothing else will greatly affect productivity and industrial development. You may want to buy your Porsche or Audi in the near term future because the progeny of middle Eastern or African nations will even under the most optimistic scenarios not exhibit the famous anal retentive disposition of Germans that result in the type of high quality and durable goods which became famous all over the world.

< Currently there is less tribe mixing going on than sold. The propaganda is relentless though. IQs are dropping, because the autism epidemic alone in the US and the West (anywhere with oligatory 40-60 vaccinations coupled with idiotic healthcare) is spreading like wildfire. Currently 1 in 50 in the US is autistic - a rise from 1 in 10.000 in the early 1980s. Autism in most instances does not produce a weird genius, but an emotional screeching mess. I might also add that food has also some major influence on IQs.

In addition when you take the average IQs in the West among the NATIVES, then they are not low, but pretty high - in most countries even way over 100 with 106-108 in countries like Netherlands or Germany. Sure - if they start mixing en masse with 150 mio. inbred Muslims and Africans, then this will wipe out countries by far.

As for the Haplogroup map - short Spanish girls look far less "white" for lack of a better word than Russian, Polish or Ukrainian ones, but hey that's me. I am not an extreme fanatic in the race game - genes change, adapt, height and IQ is highly influenced by quality of food, access to protein and most importantly extreme good care of women during pregnancy by non-toxic food and water and supplements - coupled with no inbreeding of course.

Still - we know that Islam will still continue to promote cousin marriages no matter what and Africans are highly different. We could take in a couple million of high-IQ highly educated Africans and they would seep into the European gene-pool without much impact, maybe even add some variety, but the violent hordes flooding Europe are not the best and brightest - also it will be 30 mio. of them until 2050 and that is simply too much to swallow for Europe.

I am afraid that White nation states might be gone unless they manage to splinter off in the future.

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Edit: just noticed it's from 2006, still sucks.

Quote: (07-10-2017 11:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

< Currently there is less tribe mixing going on than sold. The propaganda is relentless though. IQs are dropping, because the autism epidemic alone in the US and the West (anywhere with oligatory 40-60 vaccinations coupled with idiotic healthcare) is spreading like wildfire. Currently 1 in 50 in the US is autistic - a rise from 1 in 10.000 in the early 1980s. Autism in most instances does not produce a weird genius, but an emotional screeching mess. I might also add that food has also some major influence on IQs.

In addition when you take the average IQs in the West among the NATIVES, then they are not low, but pretty high - in most countries even way over 100 with 106-108 in countries like Netherlands or Germany. Sure - if they start mixing en masse with 150 mio. inbred Muslims and Africans, then this will wipe out countries by far.

As for the Haplogroup map - short Spanish girls look far less "white" for lack of a better word than Russian, Polish or Ukrainian ones, but hey that's me. I am not an extreme fanatic in the race game - genes change, adapt, height and IQ is highly influenced by quality of food, access to protein and most importantly extreme good care of women during pregnancy by non-toxic food and water and supplements - coupled with no inbreeding of course.

Still - we know that Islam will still continue to promote cousin marriages no matter what and Africans are highly different. We could take in a couple million of high-IQ highly educated Africans and they would seep into the European gene-pool without much impact, maybe even add some variety, but the violent hordes flooding Europe are not the best and brightest - also it will be 30 mio. of them until 2050 and that is simply too much to swallow for Europe.

I am afraid that White nation states might be gone unless they manage to splinter off in the future.

These countries will be gone in twenty years time. White people are collectively signing themselves out of the big game called life. Psychologically, white people are too hung up on trivial matters and they are ultimately too rational, so they are completely out of touch with their natures.

While your average white person in their mid twenties, is 'finding' themselves or focusing on their 'careers'. Some are not even doing that, and are just working in coffee shops while moping around in a perpetual state of nihilism. Your average black or muslim man would already have one or two kids. Either be on the verge of starting a family or leaving one unfinished.

The next stage for white women in their quest for 'equality' will be to have their eggs frozen by some reluctant corporation that is employing them. So they don't have to form a substantial relationship with a man. How messed up is that, relationships are the corner stone of finding out about one's own strengths and weaknesses.

The likes of Jordan Peterson are growing increasingly concerned by this stench of nihilism which is choking us.

Personally, I partly want to see what happens, perhaps that is the nihilist inside of me. I wouldn't hold on too tightly to Eastern Europe as being a gateway out of this mess as well. Their populations are small and they hold no strong financial weight. Apart from Poland, perhaps Belarus if Russia becomes more prosperous due to their dealings with the 'new world' which is now the East.

Most Polish girls I have met, albeit in the U.K However. All seemed to be extremely cool, sexy and intelligence; but at the same time they had no filter for the post modernism which awaited to corrupt them upon entering the U.K. They all seem to have serious issues and will most likely be opting for the frozen egg scheme five years down the line, when they can't find 'the one'. Due to riding so many different cocks over the years.

Personally I see it for what it is, and that is a new stage of destruction but potential revival in it. I have actually became extremely religious and spiritual as of recent. The pursuit of notches seems to be pointless and counter productive to me now. On top of that I get where these leftists are coming from.

They see everything as weak and instinctively want to punish the system and culture for not putting them in line. They have a feminine attitude to things, and due to be abandoned by the patriarchy, they feel like there is no civilisation. Its almost psychosexual; and I will include the leftist men into this as well; because most of them think like women more than like men, due to being raised only by their mothers.

Interesting times coming

Muh Right Wing Boat Squad?

Quote: (07-06-2017 03:16 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2017 04:32 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

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In Europe and the colonies at least it has been all for nothing. Young men growing old waiting for the battle of ideas to yield victories when all it earned us is an extremely staggered start on the real world field of battle who's relevance was always inevitable.

The problem with Europe is that the people had no fight left in them, no will to live. They are a tired old civilization. I can't help but get the feeling most Western Europeans just want to die.

This was not the case in America, even though we have suffered tremendous destruction of wholesome living at the hands of Jewish liberals. The globalists have used Americans as their mercenaries for 50 years, but the people are finally waking up under the reincarnation of Caesar.

The idea that "this won't happen in the US" is ridiculous Samseau.

The US is at the very front of the cultural marxist push. Europe was dismantled with a different tactic, but at the same time similar. They used the high trust factor, the broad social system, the Christian benevolent mentality and the guilt over WWII. Also the proximity to the Middle East and Africa makes it possible.

The US is frankly even more advanced in the globalist propaganda war. The education system and the youth is at an even worse state. You will not find those levels of cultural marxism at European universities and even with the youth.

One fourth of Mexico moved over to the US - most of them illegally. And now Americans are making some wild claims about the inability of the Europeans to defend themselves? Yes - the rapefugees of Europe are far worse, but both the US and the EU are plagued by the same leadership, the same fostered ideology.

Voting in Trump is good, but it is not decided whether he will be a Bush in disguise.

Currently the US is even more advanced on the Orwellian oppression scale than many European countries. Even Sweden offers better option if for example you try to raise a family, get divorced etc.

https://relampagofurioso.com/2017/07/04/...eyre-free/

ROK contributor here has a good article about it all. We are all under the globalist oppression matrix, but are at different stages.

The Europeans so far don't fight back because the diversity is still concentrated in certain areas, they still are in the comfortable majority, the media and politicians are telling them lies 24/7 (they would not lie about something as big as that!).

Jordan Peterson put it well. The cultural marxists/postmodernists instead of class guilt started to push White guilt, white privilege, racial guilt. Similar to the Bolsheviks where they accused you of being a certain oppressive class even if you are barely more wealthy than the poorest folk - the same will be true of the current marxism pushed.

And this is what the Ford foundation president told the Reece Commission on Foundations - the goal of the US is to be merged with the Soviet Union in a joint system several generations in the future.

This is happening everywhere. The US will become Brazil/Chile like and Europe will descend into civil war with Islam, maybe later it will culminate into a World War - afterwards we will have a mix of marxism and big corporate capitalism. China is more or less the model just with more progressive cultural marxism in the private sphere.

The site you linked mostly cites horror stories from liberal states. And some of it is just scaremongering - for example, the whole "no fireworks in Massachussets," is a trivial law no one follows.

The dirty secret of liberal states is that even though the sheep all vote for Dems, they don't obey Dem laws. I was here on the 4th. People were launching fireworks everywhere, cops were responding to calls all night trying to find out who was using the fireworks. Both Blacks and Whites were going crazy with fireworks all over Mass.

No one gave a shit, and very few if any got arrested. America is a huge and consequently has 10x the freedom of Europe ever will. America always has more land to settle on, start families on, and create communities in. America is a massive continent, and just like not all of the European continent is going to die to diversity neither will America.

America is still on a rock solid foundation of guns and liberty, meanwhile Western Europe is well and truly fucked.

Quote: (07-08-2017 08:07 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

If there is to be instability and violence in the short term, then maybe this is the price that has to be paid to compensate for decades of weakness, ineptitude, and corruption. If it is to come, then Europeans will respond as they always have in the past: with quiet resolution and determination. massive genocide and totalitarian governments.

Fixed that for you.

There is simply no way Europe is coming out of the coming conflict the same way they went coming in. Countries are going to disappear, hundreds of millions will die, and racism will return with a vengeance unlike anything anyone has ever seen since 1942.

The reason racism exists in this world is a very simple one - it is an excellent survival tactic. The Globalists must know this - by forcing diversity they know they will create extreme racism as a pretext for war. The Globalists and Nationalists will fight to the death, and who wins is anyone's guess.

The idea that Europe must prevail is pretty optimistic when we consider what happened to Northern Africa and Turkey. They used to be the major center of power in the White world, look at them now.

I don't know, the Moors ruled Spain for 700 years. That's a long time. Greece almost 300 years under the Ottomans.

They're not anymore, so clearly history shows the resilience that QC is talking about. Some racemixing obviously happened. When the Moors left Spain, the rules took to claiming Visigoth blood to establish that they weren't Moors or mixed with Moors. They showed their blue veins on pale white skin - Sangre Azul - Blue Blood, to distinguish themselves from Moor influence nobility.