I am 30 years old and rusty regarding my interactions with women (was working offshore for 4 years away from "normal people" until February 2017). I have several gifts they greatly appreciate (humor, above all else, in shape, can play off faux ultra cocky confidence, but sometimes I can go full on aloof "in state" charismatic funny lovable cocky bastard, just "happens" sometimes). I have read a lot about game and am trying to consciously apply it's principles. To get to the gist, I began working at a bar/restaurant totally surrounded by young, attractive women a month ago. The few men who work there don't really have any game, they're typical nice guy types. It's great.
I went in as strong as possible to make an impression early on by teasing some of the girls. Several of they have obviously been a sort of "curious" type of attracted to me (frequent, obvious glances checking me out, and some have teased me a bit in a girlish way). Most let me touch them without protest (alpha type displays like flicking their hair, touching their arm when saying hello). I feel most of them may be outright intimidated by me, idk. There is one girl in particular I am after. She's 19 and a hawt mess (bubbly blonde), a 7 or 8 to me.
She also happens to have been the most approachable of all the girls. She shit tested me several times and seems generally dissatisfied to me. Her name is Desiree. I started trying to game her slowly, when we first exchanged names, I told her "I know your type...you're trouble," with a smile).
She wore those horrible, huge "I'm sophisticated" libtard spectacles reading glasses to work at first, which I went to work on for the teasing. She shit tested me two times when I did by saying they're "silly," first by having said, "you're very judgmental, aren't you?" I did AA. Pass. Separately, she tested me by asking me "what, you don't want me to be able to read?" To which I said, "it's the style." Lit up. Later on, I caught her checking me out when I was in my gym clothes, full on head to toe. Again, I hit her glasses again, but also teased her for her name pronunciation, I called her "Desire" in a detached, aloof way. She predictably corrected me, to which I replied, "Yeah, I know. I got a speech impediment." She really lit up, naturally.
She asked me what's wrong with her glasses, again, to which I said, "in my experience, every girl who wears those glasses is high drama & high maintenance." She tried qualifying herself by disputing her being "dramatic." I teased her further and it went well. She really gave me a warm smile as I left work that day. Different day, she stopped wearing the glasses. I pretended not to recognize her for a bit. Ran into her, and teased her by calling her "desire" again. She really, really lit up that time. She got really shy, and blushed hardcore. I told her I was getting used to the "new and improved her." She brought up not wearing them, to which I said, "yeah, I'm really flattered." She said, "yeah, I haven't worn them in a while."
To jump ahead, things seemed to have been progressing, even though I was pussy footing. She glanced at me more often, smiled with her eyes down a couple times passing me. Otherwise, no big IOI's (questions about myself, trying to be near me), she seemed to be on the fence. At the job, I don't have many opportunities to stop to talk and she's rarely alone. She started getting seriously aggravated the 3rd time I used the "desire" tease and I could tell she was going to start being cold. Since then, I can tell she's more or less irritated with me and probably eliminated me, but she's still curious at the same time. She still doesn't wear those glasses, in spite of not being able to read.
In the background, I have teased other girls there. Another one (waitress), I teased too hard. She came to grab the check-stub to check for her tip, I said, "I knew you were the gold-digging type." She got very upset about it. Later on, I aloofly asked her, "so you don't think you're a gold-digger?" She replied by saying, "no!!!!! Why would you SAY that!!?" I said, "too bad, I'm a sucker for gold-diggers." She rolled her eyes, looked at me as though I were a scumbag, and walked off. Not a good reaction. Later on, I teased her about her hair style, told her it made her look "elfish." I said, "there are plenty of Lord of the Ring fans out there." She changed her hair style. She certainly despises me now. She had seemed attracted as well beforehand towards me. Not interested in her.
To add insult to injury to my predicament, a girl asked me for my number (not really interested in her either). I am but certain a male coworker I considered a friend went and told her I had said "it's better to have women chase you than chase them" stupid guy boast talk. He showed clear signs of jealousy, remarked he had "seen my trick, my mind games I was playing." I also chewed him out that day for being lazy as hell. She went completely cold to me after that day. Used to check me out, a lot, obvious interest, now practically nothing. He also had remarked, "I wished I was blessed with the gift of being good with women." Bitch assed shit. He, of course, denied telling her anything, but his body language showed me he was lying his ass off.
So, here I am. It seems the female hive mind of the restaurant have labelled me outright bad news. Too much of a jerk (or something, idk) or too intimidating for them. Perhaps as outright incompetent ("too much"), idk. I have thought about switching from indirect to direct game regarding desiree in a very, very bold way where I really put myself out there & could probably achieve the one night lay if I can pull it off convincingly. Also thought about admitting I was wrong to the "gold-digging" type who now loathes me by flattering her, telling her I was screening her b/c I thought she was cute, and try to "clean the slate" with her without actually apologizing.
Obviously, I would like to know, where should I try to go from here guys? I also wonder what the girls changing of their styles after my teasing means in relation to me (if anything). Do you think they are trying to please me, or just avoid being teased at work? Any advice as to how to try to game the one I am interested in would also be appreciated. One of the girls recently said something interesting; she was joking about kicking my ass, I cockily said, "what? You think you could handle me? I would be bad for you." She replied by saying, "oh, I definitely know that," matter of factly. A relaxed dismissal type tone (she's a nasty, trashy bitch to me but we get along). It suggests "girl talk" to me, idk again.
My personal perception and raw intuition as a man has always been most of the girls view me as a superior. I come across as very masculine, in a more rugged way (buzz cut, they all say I look as though I had been in the military). I walk with my chest protruded, standing tall. While I am 30, most of them say I look like I am in my early 20's (I do). I make displays of muscular power by carrying heavy things (kind of gay to me, but oy vey!). While I'm an ass to them, I am polite and have their back with work.
I struggle with approach anxiety and keeping the interactions going because I am obsessively trying to actively apply game principles instead of being "loose." I try planning out routines and then afterwards I start getting nervous and cut off the interactions before it shows (over analyzing & thinking). I know all of this is kind of lengthy, but I would like input from others before I try to adapt before I can't get myself out of whatever I got myself in as a "persona non grata." Thank you fellas very much for your time.
I went in as strong as possible to make an impression early on by teasing some of the girls. Several of they have obviously been a sort of "curious" type of attracted to me (frequent, obvious glances checking me out, and some have teased me a bit in a girlish way). Most let me touch them without protest (alpha type displays like flicking their hair, touching their arm when saying hello). I feel most of them may be outright intimidated by me, idk. There is one girl in particular I am after. She's 19 and a hawt mess (bubbly blonde), a 7 or 8 to me.
She also happens to have been the most approachable of all the girls. She shit tested me several times and seems generally dissatisfied to me. Her name is Desiree. I started trying to game her slowly, when we first exchanged names, I told her "I know your type...you're trouble," with a smile).
She wore those horrible, huge "I'm sophisticated" libtard spectacles reading glasses to work at first, which I went to work on for the teasing. She shit tested me two times when I did by saying they're "silly," first by having said, "you're very judgmental, aren't you?" I did AA. Pass. Separately, she tested me by asking me "what, you don't want me to be able to read?" To which I said, "it's the style." Lit up. Later on, I caught her checking me out when I was in my gym clothes, full on head to toe. Again, I hit her glasses again, but also teased her for her name pronunciation, I called her "Desire" in a detached, aloof way. She predictably corrected me, to which I replied, "Yeah, I know. I got a speech impediment." She really lit up, naturally.
She asked me what's wrong with her glasses, again, to which I said, "in my experience, every girl who wears those glasses is high drama & high maintenance." She tried qualifying herself by disputing her being "dramatic." I teased her further and it went well. She really gave me a warm smile as I left work that day. Different day, she stopped wearing the glasses. I pretended not to recognize her for a bit. Ran into her, and teased her by calling her "desire" again. She really, really lit up that time. She got really shy, and blushed hardcore. I told her I was getting used to the "new and improved her." She brought up not wearing them, to which I said, "yeah, I'm really flattered." She said, "yeah, I haven't worn them in a while."
To jump ahead, things seemed to have been progressing, even though I was pussy footing. She glanced at me more often, smiled with her eyes down a couple times passing me. Otherwise, no big IOI's (questions about myself, trying to be near me), she seemed to be on the fence. At the job, I don't have many opportunities to stop to talk and she's rarely alone. She started getting seriously aggravated the 3rd time I used the "desire" tease and I could tell she was going to start being cold. Since then, I can tell she's more or less irritated with me and probably eliminated me, but she's still curious at the same time. She still doesn't wear those glasses, in spite of not being able to read.
In the background, I have teased other girls there. Another one (waitress), I teased too hard. She came to grab the check-stub to check for her tip, I said, "I knew you were the gold-digging type." She got very upset about it. Later on, I aloofly asked her, "so you don't think you're a gold-digger?" She replied by saying, "no!!!!! Why would you SAY that!!?" I said, "too bad, I'm a sucker for gold-diggers." She rolled her eyes, looked at me as though I were a scumbag, and walked off. Not a good reaction. Later on, I teased her about her hair style, told her it made her look "elfish." I said, "there are plenty of Lord of the Ring fans out there." She changed her hair style. She certainly despises me now. She had seemed attracted as well beforehand towards me. Not interested in her.
To add insult to injury to my predicament, a girl asked me for my number (not really interested in her either). I am but certain a male coworker I considered a friend went and told her I had said "it's better to have women chase you than chase them" stupid guy boast talk. He showed clear signs of jealousy, remarked he had "seen my trick, my mind games I was playing." I also chewed him out that day for being lazy as hell. She went completely cold to me after that day. Used to check me out, a lot, obvious interest, now practically nothing. He also had remarked, "I wished I was blessed with the gift of being good with women." Bitch assed shit. He, of course, denied telling her anything, but his body language showed me he was lying his ass off.
So, here I am. It seems the female hive mind of the restaurant have labelled me outright bad news. Too much of a jerk (or something, idk) or too intimidating for them. Perhaps as outright incompetent ("too much"), idk. I have thought about switching from indirect to direct game regarding desiree in a very, very bold way where I really put myself out there & could probably achieve the one night lay if I can pull it off convincingly. Also thought about admitting I was wrong to the "gold-digging" type who now loathes me by flattering her, telling her I was screening her b/c I thought she was cute, and try to "clean the slate" with her without actually apologizing.
Obviously, I would like to know, where should I try to go from here guys? I also wonder what the girls changing of their styles after my teasing means in relation to me (if anything). Do you think they are trying to please me, or just avoid being teased at work? Any advice as to how to try to game the one I am interested in would also be appreciated. One of the girls recently said something interesting; she was joking about kicking my ass, I cockily said, "what? You think you could handle me? I would be bad for you." She replied by saying, "oh, I definitely know that," matter of factly. A relaxed dismissal type tone (she's a nasty, trashy bitch to me but we get along). It suggests "girl talk" to me, idk again.
My personal perception and raw intuition as a man has always been most of the girls view me as a superior. I come across as very masculine, in a more rugged way (buzz cut, they all say I look as though I had been in the military). I walk with my chest protruded, standing tall. While I am 30, most of them say I look like I am in my early 20's (I do). I make displays of muscular power by carrying heavy things (kind of gay to me, but oy vey!). While I'm an ass to them, I am polite and have their back with work.
I struggle with approach anxiety and keeping the interactions going because I am obsessively trying to actively apply game principles instead of being "loose." I try planning out routines and then afterwards I start getting nervous and cut off the interactions before it shows (over analyzing & thinking). I know all of this is kind of lengthy, but I would like input from others before I try to adapt before I can't get myself out of whatever I got myself in as a "persona non grata." Thank you fellas very much for your time.
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