I notice there are a lot of cats hung up on girls in the 18-22 age range. (http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1842.html )

Being a vet in the Game, I can tell you as you approach 30 years old and beyond, you are better off steering away from that age group. You will save yourself tons of headaches.

Sure there are benefits to a super fly 18 year old girl, but I can tell you that I rarely if ever try to swoop on girls that age. (I got my fill when I was 18-27).

Jay-Z had a great line: "Only twenty-one and older let another n*gga mold her" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFPTld3CK18

18 year olds are super flakey, have very little relateable life experience, many times don't have ID and beyond surface looks are not very attractive.

Sure there are exceptions (models for one, are well traveled etc) and foreign younger girls can hold your interest, but American younger girls? Do me a favor.

I recently swooped a 21 year old girl, but she was born in Moldova, grew up partying in SF heavy and acted more mature than most girls 7 years older. 23 years old to 27 years old seems to be the sweet spot. At least for me.

Another interesting fact I have noticed is that the only girls people universally agree are "10's", Monica Bellucci and Sofía Vergara are 46 and 37 respectively.

Really a little life experience can make a girl a 9 into a 10, in my opinion.

Thoughts?

I'm with you on that G. If I ever plan to have a kid, I'll probably shoot for a girl in the 24-28 range(better chance of a healthy kid). But I don't mind dating older women at all. There are plenty of 40+ MILFS out there that any guy would do in a heartbeat. I think 27-30 is actually a nice age. Young enough to still have her looks and vitality, yet old enough to be mature and cool to be around. Unless you're going for straight sex only, I can't see anything under 22 really. What am I going to talk about with them? Taylor Swift and beer bonging?

Quote: (03-29-2010 07:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

23 years old to 27 years old seems to be the sweet spot. At least for me.

Lol... the other day I was just thinking I prefer about this and came to the conclusion that I prefer women between 22-26. You upped it a year on both ends.... but you're older than me.
I'm barely 24, so....

But yeah, you're right about life experience adding to a chick's rating, for sure.

Young hoes = dumb hoes. For the most part, anyway.

I think some of the appeal of a younger chick is that its the type of chick you can have some fun, not get too serious with and have no remorse whatsoever about dropping her because she'll end up giving you 761 reasons to leave, almost on a daily basis. The reality of these chicks is that she can't really offer you anything in the conversation dept. and the sex leaves much to be desired as they don't really take any initiative in the sack.

Also, as I think has been said before, young American chicks have a skewed sense of what it means to be sexy. They think it means wearing thongs and shaving their beaver. I told one one time "Ok, be sexy" and she gave me this blank stare like I was speaking Japanese. It reminded me of that one episode of the Simpsons where Principal Skinner shouted at the kids to "Stand Down", when they were doing soldier training, and Ralph ends up standing one one foot leaning forward.

For me the sweet spots are 24-27 and 30-34. The 28-30 range is still cool, but thats the range where you'll encounter the chicks that if they haven't had any kids, are trying like hell to make it happen. Post 30 is cool because these chicks will
not only give you mindblowing sex, they'll take care of you and treat you right. The only challenge is trying to find one who doesn't have a huge amount of baggage.

I agree 100%. I haven't messed around with a girl younger than 21 in 2 years, and that made me 21! I almost always get with older girls. For me I agree 100% that 23 (Maybe 22) - 27 is the sweet spot. I haven't had too much experience with girls older than 27, maybe 5-10, but I enjoyed it probably more than being with an 18 year old. I hate anoying young girls.

Quote: (03-29-2010 08:23 PM)Willy Wonka Wrote:  

Quote: (03-29-2010 07:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

23 years old to 27 years old seems to be the sweet spot. At least for me.

Young hoes = dumb hoes. For the most part, anyway.

This applies to Colombian women too in that age group. The "under 23" year old girls are still looking for a guy to pay for their lipo, implants, school, clothes and shit their daddy never gave them - including manners!

Not to mention the only thing on their mind is hanging out with their girlfriends every weekend at nightclubs getting free drinks from beta men.

I just got off the phone with a 20 year old Colombiana who is a solid 9, but damn she drives me crazy because she talks about such stupid things, and is at all levels incompetent - it drives me bloody mad! I can't wait to bang her so I can be done with her dumb ass and bolt!

Here is a perfect example:

I took this young Latina out with her three 20 yo friends (she insisted she would not come alone on our first date) so, I agreed to go "as friends" as she so put it. I love it when a girl does this trick on me - thinking she is dealing with an insecure, beta male with no game.

The night goes on, the girls are having a great time, I am too. We are drinking, eating, and dancing (they picked the venue).

The bill comes. The waitress naturally will always give it to the male in the table/group for some reason.

The bill was about 100USD with tip - so, I figure there is five of us "friends only" right? I pull out 35USD and lay it on the table, and leave the bill on the table and step to the mens room. When I return, they are all looking at each other just baffled, and I ask, "hey, you guys finish paying the rest of the bill so we can bounce to a club?"

"I left my portion on the table for you guys".

She just got of the phone with me telling me nobody has ever done this her.

I replied "welcome............to the real word"

The look on their faces was priceless!

I did not bang her that night, but I told her that if she wants me to pay for something, she has to earn it, not trick me. We now have an official first date this Thursday...I've set the tone of what I expect from her, and if she is a good girl, she may just make me happy and get rewarded. =)

The result (hopefully): Bang!

The saga continues

MiXXmaster27,

That was strong.

Currently, I am banging a 18 year old who is very mature and intelligent, in fact a bit of a nerdish freak, sex freak and a solid 7.5
She is my exception to the rule.

22-26: I really have a hard time with them, we just click on sexual level because I look like 26, even though I am 34, so they get confused.

Lately, 27-34 is my spot with a casual MILF thrown my way and a 37-42 cougar in complete and awesome shape.

But I agree with the first posters of the thread, younger girls are searching for a daddy who pays everything, they become at the same time flakey and clingy, they are a real waste of time if you are planning for over 3 lays with them.

As a rule, I never bang a woman more than 3 times, unless she hits the check list to be a regular lover when any of us give the call.

IF an older woman around 34-42 is divorced -even with a child or two- and obsessed with living her new life to the fullest, being as fit as she ever was....then those are my favourites, they are just mindblowing, nynphomaniac sex partners who ask you absolutely nothing in return.

MiXXmaster27: that is the way to go! in fact, they should have retuned your $35 for the life lesson expenses

Monica Bellucci is not hot

Quote: (03-29-2010 09:50 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Monica Bellucci is not hot

I think we have had these differences in taste before.

For me, this is close to perfection:

http://www.cinematicwallpaper.com/movie-...llucci.jpg

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/9905/monica_bellucci_016.jpg

http://www.greatitalians.com/Images/MonicaBellucci.jpg

http://thumb1.visualizeus.com/thumbs/09/...5011_m.jpg

I would say 27-38, but I do go for younger girls from time to time, but mostly they arent enough women to keep my attention for more than one date.

Also keep in mind that South American girls mature slower than American girls (surprisingly). Many American girls move to college at 18, get a job at 22 with their own place, so get into adulthood quicker. Some 22 y/o Americans are quite easy/reasonable to deal with.

For South American girls, add at least 2 years. 24 or 25 is a very good age for them.

younger girls are often easy target...older girls are much much smarter

All ages have their charms. 18-22? Just be a good teaser, and you can keep their wheels spinning forever.

Agreed.

Although the game that gets younger / immature girls is tiresome and unpleasant for me, and as a result I'm less proficient with it.

Its hard for me to keep up without breaking character. Younger girls would likely find me too direct and perhaps too uncaring at the same time. Although, with some it would work fine. But, likely, it would be the rare younger girl who would keep my interest.

I like girls 23 and up, and my game works best with them. Although, past a certain age (about 23) there is no guarantee of increased maturity. There are a lot of childish women in their 30's and 40's out there. Its more about maturity than age with me, to a certain point.

I guess 26-35 is my current sweet spot. Both old enough and young enough at the same time.

Older women can be insanely grateful. I've had an older sugar momma (40-ish but hot enough), and while she turned out to be a bit insane, the fringe benefits were great.

I'm currently dating someone my age (32), and dating around the same age brings lot of benefits there in terms of what a couple has in common. I like it. Although, I'm sure I'll feel less like that the older I get.

I do find that girls past their twenties tend to bring significant baggage / bad habits with them from previous relationships.

It REALLY sucks to have to retrain an early thirties girl, from what she's used to dating beta-ish males her whole life. They have an entitlement and a tendency to constantly test, and I'm constantly battling it, and correcting her, to her confusion. She just can't believe that she gets told 'no' or that she doesn't get what she wants all the time. Of course, she's more naturally 'alpha' than a lot of girls, which doesn't help. We're 2 alphas in a relationship. Not ideal, and probably not long term sustainable, but its challenging and entertaining. When that stops being fun, I'm out. Of course, she becomes a kitten at all of the right times.

I think the proliferation of the alpha female is largely a 20th century western culture phenomenon, as is talked about around this website. You take the good with the bad with American girls.

Quote: (03-29-2010 09:50 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Monica Bellucci is not hot

Agreed. She used to be amazing though. It's a shame what father time does to beautiful women.

About age: I love younger women. I'm in my mid twenties, so the age gap is not that huge yet so it's still relatively easy for me to hook up with 20 year olds. I've been with older women, women my age, and younger chicks, and I don't see any difficulties except the younger ones are more clingy but less jaded. They seem to romanticize the relationship more and expect more of you at first. The older they get, the more polarized their agendas get. Either they want to lock you down or they want to get their rocks off.

With younger girls, I feel it's easier to control the pace of the relationship. Looks wise, it's much easier to find a hot 18-22 year old chick than say a hot 28-30 year old chick.

Young chicks really are a waiste of time in every aspect of being fly guy with everything going for him. Young chicks dont have any clue what a real man is and is flakey and think so much of themselves. Should you even bother enough with them and the fact they only thing they have in plenty is ignorance, you will most likely find them tedious and immature in bed...

Unless you are immature, ignorant and tedious yourself...dont bother, again and gain I get the same results with them, they are so fucking booring and might look good, but seriously who cares about girls, when there are women out there???

I like academic women, I like well educated, fit women, that actually have something to offer me besides sex...

women should have more years between the age 27-38 and Monica Belluci is beyond hot I would still fuck her brains out if I got the chance..

i have been with as old as 32 and as young as 19. recently. each one was crazy in her own special way. i just know that i love me some 19 year old bod. i can't really tell which age bracket gave me less grief. so 19 is my ideal. same cost. bigger benefit.

This is a true story. I went out with a 22 year old girl today - borderline 9, but still young. As we are sitting at a venue....I ask her:

Mixx: "So, tell me 3 things about you that make you and exciting person to get to know, that have nothing to do with your job, or physical attributes."

Young Girl: "well, I love to go to the movies, I have great legs, and I love my job....."

????

Please, please someone shoot me - now!

Quote: (04-03-2010 08:48 PM)MiXXmaster27 Wrote:  

This is a true story. I went out with a 22 year old girl today - borderline 9, but still young. As we are sitting at a venue....I ask her:

Mixx: "So, tell me 3 things about you that make you and exciting person to get to know, that have nothing to do with your job, or physical attributes."

Young Girl: "well, I love to go to the movies, I have great legs, and I love my job....."

????

Please, please someone shoot me - now!

haha further qualify until she says something you like, or just take the easy route and say "that's great" and move on. Are you looking for punani or doing a job interview?

Our objectives and how we qualify may be different. When I look for girls, I'm looking for the hottest girls I can fuck and tolerate enough when I'm not banging them. I'm not really looking for someone to have deep conversations and share quality, nonsexual experiences with. That's what my buddies are for.

Quote: (04-03-2010 08:48 PM)MiXXmaster27 Wrote:  

This is a true story. I went out with a 22 year old girl today - borderline 9, but still young. As we are sitting at a venue....I ask her:

Mixx: "So, tell me 3 things about you that make you and exciting person to get to know, that have nothing to do with your job, or physical attributes."

Young Girl: "well, I love to go to the movies, I have great legs, and I love my job....."

????

Please, please someone shoot me - now!

Owned! ... guess thats my point right there, how can years of skills and personal integrity impress anyone like that??? short answer it cant and who cares...

I use that early on in the date to calibrate my game. Based on the response, I can tell which way to go to accomplish my goal.

In this case, instead of talking about world travels and interesting things, I would talk about the last four beaches I recommend for tanning (stupid I know, but that's what thus girl could connect with).

I did not get the bang (by my choice), but I was able to caress her tatas. Her stupidity kept pissing me off and I left.

I am not understanding this. Eighteen year olds are at the peak of their sexual attractiveness. If you are a player you are looking to pick off the finest girls, regardless of their age.

Of course everybody has their preferences. As long as it is not a matter of "sour grapes" and guys are not saying that they don't want younger girls just because they can't get them, then I guess it's fine.

Quote: (04-07-2010 09:49 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

I am not understanding this. Eighteen year olds are at the peak of their sexual attractiveness. If you are a player you are looking to pick off the finest girls, regardless of their age.

Of course everybody has their preferences. As long as it is not a matter of "sour grapes" and guys are not saying that they don't want younger girls just because they can't get them, then I guess it's fine.

My big qualifier to this was "as you approach 30 years old and beyond".

Quote: (04-07-2010 11:55 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

My big qualifier to this was "as you approach 30 years old and beyond".

I still don't think that should make a difference. Girls are at their physical peak when they are in the 18-21 yr range. Why would you dismiss them? It appears to me is that what you are really saying is that when you are in that "30 and beyond" range, getting with 18 year olds get harder. But, then isn't that whole idea of "game"?

I am in that qualifier range that you specified, and to be honest it really doesn't take much for me to get women in my age range. If you are attractive, succesful and fairly normal, girls in the late 20s and 30s are there for the taking. You really don't need any sort of game for them. They are the ones who are usually gaming you. So, where is the skill in that? There is no game.

The reason for me to get into game is to go after those girls that I can't normally get. Like that 18 year old with the perfect ass wearing skin tight yoga pants as she walks in front of me in the mall.