Quote: (03-20-2015 12:35 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:28 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Quote: (03-19-2015 06:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Quote: (03-19-2015 01:14 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

It's worse than monumentally bad game.

I hate to say this but I would clamp down on this kind of shit from one of my martial arts students if he behaved this way.

Mostly cause it could cost me a lot of £££.

If you clamped down on the core male members of any club your revenue will sink fast. Go to any gym during the warmer months and see all the women and other fairies pratting around trying to be in shape.

Come winter time or shit weather those people are gone. No income for you or your club.

I have left classes in Judo because some people were pathetic in sparring and I actually got a surprised look from the teacher when I threw a female blue belt. Being soft in these environments isn't good for a club.

The OP might have screwed it up a fair bit but those women are useless sacks of shit and don't stay for long.

I don't mean to be rude but I suspect I know more about running a profitable leisure business than you. (I could, of course, be wrong).

There is nothing to suggest that the OP is a core member of anything; plus, would you really stop doing an activity because some other dude did something really stupid and was asked to leave? That's the kind of shit women do.

Krav Maga is the new Karate; hyper commercial. The instructor was protecting his business.

You may not like or agree with it, but as things stand those girls had as much right to be taking and paying for that class as the guys present. As a result there are certain expectations that any customer would have; one of which is not to be repeatedly subjected to the nonsense the OP got up to.

I'm not white knighting here...when people pay for something they expect certain levels of customer care and oversight from those leading the activity; the topic, in this case Krav, is irrelevant.

"Changing room talk" as I call it, can wreck a martial arts or sports club in five minutes, and it's much more prevalent in the girls' locker room than men's.

I've seen it happen when an instructor fucks a student (a sacking offence in my network) particularly. Suddenly half your female students just vanish taking their £1000s pcm with them.

Oddly, female students spend way, way more money than male ones and tend to stick at it longer.

Then we have definitely been in different fitness/martial arts gyms. Majority of classes I attended were male dominated and stayed the course for years.

Women and a select number of men hardly ever stayed and it wasn't a rough class nor was it male focused. I could count a small number of women who stayed the course but my opinion of male-female classes isn't favourable. I saw it as a waste of my time to spar with a woman and new members.

Those other issues you pointed out have nothing to do with what I am trying to get across here. Sleeping with a student in any environment is bound to cause a storm.

Perhaps.

The other things I mentioned weren't really aimed at you; just general points on the subject matter really.

Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

Quote: (03-20-2015 01:39 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

Afraid so.

However, in principle there is nothing wrong with mixed gender classes as long as everyone benefits from the training.

There's nothing wrong with women learning self defence training; hell I'd encourage women doing any physical activity whatsoever.

it comes down to good instruction at the end of the day; appropriate partnering etc.


Loads of guys come to my classes to make friends and potentially meet a girlfriend; they never say it but one can tell.

We have tried loads of times running ladies only classes and they never take off.

Very few people who train martial arts want to spar at all, maybe 5%. It's best to train those people separately in an environment more akin to what most guys on this board want.

New thread title is GENIUS.

LMFAO Tuth

PS Krav Maga has nothing on Rex Kwon Do

I remember that new loudmouth students at my dojo got brutally taken down by the teachers. I've seen a lot of "tough" guys wimper when the teacher put a lock on them. They usually didn't come back after a few training sessions.

I can't say the girls were specifically annoying or whimpy. Most were trying to keep up. Don't know how current millennials are doing. It's been a while since i last trained martial arts.

Quote: (03-20-2015 02:33 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 01:39 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

Afraid so.

However, in principle there is nothing wrong with mixed gender classes as long as everyone benefits from the training.

There's nothing wrong with women learning self defence training; hell I'd encourage women doing any physical activity whatsoever.

it comes down to good instruction at the end of the day; appropriate partnering etc.


Loads of guys come to my classes to make friends and potentially meet a girlfriend; they never say it but one can tell.

We have tried loads of times running ladies only classes and they never take off.

Very few people who train martial arts want to spar at all, maybe 5%. It's best to train those people separately in an environment more akin to what most guys on this board want.

Just curious, what type of martial arts do you teach? I've heard a lot about Krav Maga and was considering joining a gym.

Quote: (03-20-2015 01:29 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 12:35 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:28 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Quote: (03-19-2015 06:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Quote: (03-19-2015 01:14 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

It's worse than monumentally bad game.

I hate to say this but I would clamp down on this kind of shit from one of my martial arts students if he behaved this way.

Mostly cause it could cost me a lot of £££.

If you clamped down on the core male members of any club your revenue will sink fast. Go to any gym during the warmer months and see all the women and other fairies pratting around trying to be in shape.

Come winter time or shit weather those people are gone. No income for you or your club.

I have left classes in Judo because some people were pathetic in sparring and I actually got a surprised look from the teacher when I threw a female blue belt. Being soft in these environments isn't good for a club.

The OP might have screwed it up a fair bit but those women are useless sacks of shit and don't stay for long.

I don't mean to be rude but I suspect I know more about running a profitable leisure business than you. (I could, of course, be wrong).

There is nothing to suggest that the OP is a core member of anything; plus, would you really stop doing an activity because some other dude did something really stupid and was asked to leave? That's the kind of shit women do.

Krav Maga is the new Karate; hyper commercial. The instructor was protecting his business.

You may not like or agree with it, but as things stand those girls had as much right to be taking and paying for that class as the guys present. As a result there are certain expectations that any customer would have; one of which is not to be repeatedly subjected to the nonsense the OP got up to.

I'm not white knighting here...when people pay for something they expect certain levels of customer care and oversight from those leading the activity; the topic, in this case Krav, is irrelevant.

"Changing room talk" as I call it, can wreck a martial arts or sports club in five minutes, and it's much more prevalent in the girls' locker room than men's.

I've seen it happen when an instructor fucks a student (a sacking offence in my network) particularly. Suddenly half your female students just vanish taking their £1000s pcm with them.

Oddly, female students spend way, way more money than male ones and tend to stick at it longer.

Then we have definitely been in different fitness/martial arts gyms. Majority of classes I attended were male dominated and stayed the course for years.

Women and a select number of men hardly ever stayed and it wasn't a rough class nor was it male focused. I could count a small number of women who stayed the course but my opinion of male-female classes isn't favourable. I saw it as a waste of my time to spar with a woman and new members.

Those other issues you pointed out have nothing to do with what I am trying to get across here. Sleeping with a student in any environment is bound to cause a storm.

Perhaps.

The other things I mentioned weren't really aimed at you; just general points on the subject matter really.

Crash, been training and teaching at multiple places for decades, you're right he's wrong. Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

Quote: (03-20-2015 01:39 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

I'm a massive human being that has been lifting hard and training for decades. There is a bigger discrepancy between me and a lightweight male than between the average man and woman. I give nobody more than they're prepared to learn from, sparring is not a competition, it's to PREPARE you for competition and the cold hard world.


If it's my job to make you better, I'll make it happen, whether you're a man or a woman, a pro or a pussy. You don't do that by giving them what they can't grow from.

"Bravery is an accumulation of discipline.".

If they can't handle heavy shit, I'll give them what they can handle till they develop the tools to handle heavier shit. It's a progression, no matter where you're starting from. If someone wants to bench 400lbs, you don't start by loading 400lbs on the bar, you bring them along in a rational progression from wherever they're starting from.

Quote: (03-20-2015 01:39 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

A guy isn't going to get much benefit from sparring/rolling with a girl when training for self-defense situations but a girl would get benefits. And let's face it, in a truly dangerous situation she is more likely to be attacked by a man than a woman. Btw I'm not counting Worldstar ghetto girl fights as a "truly dangerous situation".

Even if the girl can't ultimately defeat a male attacker she can hopefully at least fend him off enough to the point she she can escape safely. Remember, in self-defense situations winning doesn't have to mean defeating your opponent. It just means being able to survive in an acceptable state.

So yeah, Krav...

So anyway your game sounds kinda clunky. Cringe is what I feel reading your "rap" to these girls.

For me there are some places where I don't game (work/church/gym) because I prefer not to dump where I eat. Now if your somewhere where you don't give a damn about (Payless/Walmart/DMV/Planet Fitness) then feel free to let your A-hole flag. Consider this a learning moment.

Be better brah.

A girl I met told me that she did Krav Maga after I told her I could throw her across the room. She said that she could do the same with me, then I chucked and started nuclear negging her (another girl was watching, giggling at the entertainment), and she ended up half playfully threatening me. I covered my balls, because I know what they teach in Krav, and said something like "well, I'll guard my balls then". She then started to get in my face, trying to get a rise out of me, then pouted after I didn't flinch (she's chubby and I told her my preference for skinny girls earlier). I started reminding her about how I hate it when girls try to act like men, and it's a real turn-off.

"Well, I only went once.."

I laughed my ass off after that.

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

I have.

Depends on what organization the club is registered with. There are a wide variety of ranking systems.

At a US based judo club I was a member at, it went white-green-blue-brown-black.

At a Canadian club, it was completely different.

I think coloured belts are stupid. Reminds me of some scenes from The Office.

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

I have.

Depends on what organization the club is registered with. There are a wide variety of ranking systems.

At a US based judo club I was a member at, it went white-green-blue-brown-black.

At a Canadian club, it was completely different.

I think coloured belts are stupid. Reminds me of some scenes from The Office.

Children's classes often have colored belts because the parents paying for the classes like to see progress.

Quote: (03-20-2015 01:39 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

Because when it comes down to it people like to picture themselves as the guy kicking seven bells of shit out of their opponents(s) and coming out the victor.

When in reality most of them would need to be at the point of intense anger and rage in order to fight back and exchange punches.

Which leads to another point, people are ignorant on what goes down when physical blows are exchanged. Being smashed in the face or under the jaw is quite an experience and you either have the ability to take it or you don't.

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:12 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

I have.

Depends on what organization the club is registered with. There are a wide variety of ranking systems.

At a US based judo club I was a member at, it went white-green-blue-brown-black.

At a Canadian club, it was completely different.

I think coloured belts are stupid. Reminds me of some scenes from The Office.

Children's classes often have colored belts because the parents paying for the classes like to see progress.

So do adult classes.

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:28 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:12 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

I have.

Depends on what organization the club is registered with. There are a wide variety of ranking systems.

At a US based judo club I was a member at, it went white-green-blue-brown-black.

At a Canadian club, it was completely different.

I think coloured belts are stupid. Reminds me of some scenes from The Office.

Children's classes often have colored belts because the parents paying for the classes like to see progress.

So do adult classes.

So true, it's a proven tool for motivating people. It also cuts down on certain elements of gym douchebaggery. I've heard a lot of talkers in no-gi and less formal programs. At least with belts on, even the credible noobs can figure out that the bluebelt arguing with the blackbelt is probably an idiot.

Quote: (03-19-2015 12:31 PM)Latan Wrote:  

This year, 4 new girls joined the group (a bunch of 5s, fat asses wearing yoga pants)

I guess krav maga finally stopped being cool, once the fatties show up its all downhill from there.
Actually nevermind my hatred for fatties with attitude, i have never been in or seen a group of guys that didnt get destroyed inside out after letting girls become "part of the group".

Quote: (03-19-2015 01:27 PM)Renzy Wrote:  

He didn't have autism though, just an absence of a corpus callosum,.

Quote: (03-20-2015 09:34 PM)dog24 Wrote:  

I guess krav maga finally stopped being cool, once the fatties show up its all downhill from there.
Actually nevermind my hatred for fatties with attitude, i have never been in or seen a group of guys that didnt get destroyed inside out after letting girls become "part of the group".

Really once the women and children show up it's all down hill from there, at that point it's become a product instead of a martial art. Once it becomes a product practioners of the art become "martial artists" or athletes and refuse to test their skills against others and progress stalls then regresses. It's happened to plenty of martial arts that used to be legit and it will happen to more.

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:12 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

I have.

Depends on what organization the club is registered with. There are a wide variety of ranking systems.

At a US based judo club I was a member at, it went white-green-blue-brown-black.

At a Canadian club, it was completely different.

I think coloured belts are stupid. Reminds me of some scenes from The Office.

Children's classes often have colored belts because the parents paying for the classes like to see progress.

Parents PAY for progress. When I took TaiKwonDo when I was 9, there was a black kid and Korean kid in my class. While all of the kids showed up every session and worked on our stances in the playground frequently, those kids barely showed up. What happened when those two kids didn't get promoted from white to yellow belt? There parents came in and demanded that they be promoted just like the other kids. The black mother even called my master a "chink", which is a slur reserved for Chinese, not Koreans. Of course, my master caved in because he was teaching on the grounds of my school, and the administration told him to just give them the belt.

Bad parenting is when they reward the kids for not doing their jobs. If I didn't get the belt, my parents would just scold me for wasting their money.

Quote: (03-20-2015 09:12 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:28 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:12 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 08:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2015 04:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.

I have.

Depends on what organization the club is registered with. There are a wide variety of ranking systems.

At a US based judo club I was a member at, it went white-green-blue-brown-black.

At a Canadian club, it was completely different.

I think coloured belts are stupid. Reminds me of some scenes from The Office.

Children's classes often have colored belts because the parents paying for the classes like to see progress.

So do adult classes.

So true, it's a proven tool for motivating people. It also cuts down on certain elements of gym douchebaggery. I've heard a lot of talkers in no-gi and less formal programs. At least with belts on, even the credible noobs can figure out that the bluebelt arguing with the blackbelt is probably an idiot.

When I was training in judo (a lot of fun by the way), the belt ranks were actually kind of nice.

Black belts always knew their stuff, whereas, brown belts could generally be predicted to be try hard.

My motivation for participation quickly stopped being about moving up ranks and more about ignoring the testing system and being the best that I could be by constantly trying to improve myself against those who were bigger and better than me, despite whatever belt their were wearing.

If I wanted to get a technique down pat, I'd get a black belt to show me, however.

Originally, in Japan, it was all white and black belts, with brown belts being a late addition.

The full Monty of rainbow inspired colours appears to be a purely American invention.

I'd be all for a black-brown-white system or even a black-white system.

Some achievements do deserve a symbolic honour.

On a side note, there was a karate class that would use the judo dojo that I worked out of for a while in Canada. They'd have class just before we did on week nights. While every judo black belt I've ever met wears a belt that is heavily worn, sometimes to the point of being grey, the dozen black belts in the karate club looked like their belts had been purchased earlier that day.

love it

Hearing all these mcdojo stories is making me frustrated. It sucks so many teachers have to cave to parents demands or risk poverty.

Quote: (03-20-2017 10:23 PM)Mochihunter Wrote:  

Hearing all these mcdojo stories is making me frustrated. It sucks so many teachers have to cave to parents demands or risk poverty.

What's your solution? Have the government subsidize martial art classes for which there is little demand.

I don't know about you, but personally, I'm a big fan of the free market.