It would virtually be the end of USA hegemony. Some people may say that is a good thing but a gradual decline is more favorable then a roaring plunge into the abyss. It goes against USA interest to attack or have war with Iran right now. Obama beta-in-chief, if he does indeed succumb to internal hardliners and the Israel lobby it would mean that the USA is essentially a puppet state. But as I also stated before for economic reasons this may actually mean that the EU is also on the brink, the rumors are Greek will "formally" default by March, which would thus sink the Euro along with it. IF this is indeed the case the USA may be positioning its self to egg on Iran which could lead to a events in these orders:
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Closing the strait -> Escalation of aggression -> Israel sinking of USS POUNCE -> Air strikes on Iran Nuclear Sites.
But like I said this could easily just be a front for the USA to just acquire all it needs. For posters who don't understand why a spike in oil prices would be good for the USA take into account that Oil is traded almost exclusively in USD$. If any country wishes to acquire oil they need to acquire USD$ cash a spike in prices means demands for USD also increases which essentially puts more money into circulation for the FED and Treasury to play with. This would be an artificial prop to the USD% which would ease pressures from a EU plunge. It would suck for everyday citizens whom would see prices rise, but for investors in Oil or for the USA Govt it would mean a flush of cheap money in their hands.
Current talk is easily a bluff for events that are going way beyond the Persian Gulf, Specifically with Davos going on the the ongoing EU crisis.
The USA WANTS to see the EU crash and burn, it would mean the $USD would be the
sole,
uncontested Global reserve currency and would keep the money printing State side continuing. USA policy is literally to keep the music of musical chairs going even though there are no seats left, everybody is blindfolded though and nobody seems to notice the chair is missing.
For people whom are still confused to how 200$ a barrel is good for the USA read this (when I refer to the USA I do not mean everyday citizens, they don;t care about everyday citizens, if they did they would not be so careless to plunge a nation into another war when it is not ideal for the good of the nation, they - Govt+ Corporations - do not care if you can't afford bread of fuel to get to work):
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Energy sales are an important part of this equation, because the American dollar is tied to the oil trade.
Thus, oil trade, through what is called the petro-dollar, is helping sustain the American dollar’s international standing. Countries around the world have been virtually forced to use the U.S. dollar to maintain their energy and trade needs and transactions.
To highlight the importance of the international oil trade to the U.S., all the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) members – Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates – have their national currencies pegged to the U.S. dollar and thereby sustain the petro-dollar by trading oil in American dollars. Moreover, the currencies of Lebanon, Jordan, Eritrea, Djibouti, Belize, and several tropical islands in the Caribbean Sea are also all pegged to the U.S. dollar. Aside from the overseas territories of the United States, El Salvador, Ecuador, and Panama also all officially use the U.S. dollar as their national currencies.
The euro on the other hand is both a rival of the U.S. dollar as well as an allied currency. Both currencies work in tandem against other currencies in many cases and seem to be controlled by increasingly merging centres of financial power.
Aside from the seventeen European Union members using the euro as their currency, the Principality of Monaco, San Marino, and Vatican City have issuing rights and both Montenegro and the Albanian-majority Serbian province of Kosovo also use the euro as their national currencies. Outside of the euro area (Eurozone), the currencies of Bosnia, Bulgaria, Denmark, Latvia, and Lithuania in Europe; the currencies of Cape Verde, Comoros, Morocco, the Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the two CFA zones in Africa; and the currencies of several Western European overseas dependencies, such as Greenland, are all pegged to the euro.
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The end of Iranian oil exports to the European Union and the decline of the euro will directly benefit the United States and the U.S. dollar. What the European Union is doing is merely weakening itself and giving the U.S. dollar the upper hand in its currency rivalry against the euro. Moreover, should the euro collapse, the American dollar will quickly fill much of the void. Despite the fact that Russia will benefit from higher oil prices and greater leverage over E.U. energy security as a supplier, the Kremlin has also warned the European Union that it is working against its own interests and subordinating itself to Washington.
The USA could easily just be trying to escalate on others moves. Iran is about to impose an oil Embargo on the EU, for Iran the damage is minimal as buyers can be sought elsewhere but the EU it would cause a crunch for many nations (Italy and Greece are two examples) as they would have to scramble to find other sources. Couple this with current economic stresses and you can start to see why the USA is not trying to escalate.
The USA is too thinned out military and it is not politically favorable for Obama to plunge himself into Iran at this moment. The USA would rather push through to Tehran via Syria. Current movements is my guess of the USA moving on other fronts aside from full on war with Iran.
There is talk of Israel sinking an older carrier the USS Ponce is currently on route to the Persian Gulf. This could happen now or closer to October when the large War Games with Israel and the USA is rescheduled from easily cancellation which was like 2 weeks ago.
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Israel will attack Iran before we do. Considering Iran's self proclaimed desire to wipe Israel off the map I wouldnt blame Israel for striking first.
This was a miss-translation. Ahmadinejad never asked for Israel to be "wiped off the map", he stated that regime change was needed from the holders of Jerusalem. This is the main talking point of hard lined right winged Israelis and the American Political stooges, but there are a million sources online that give a proper translation of the speech which proves their claims false.
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And @Wizard I will respond to your post at another time. All I can say is that Military Strategy is drawn up years in advance. Simple Policy measures take a year or two to implement how can somebody be so foolish to think war just "happens". The USA has had plans for Iran since as far-back as 03'. I will post the Policy papers at another time.
