Daygame Stumbler: Do you still persist if the girl says she's got a boyfriend?
03-02-2017, 02:09 PM
Well, I'm currently on day 24 of no-fap and day 11 of zinc supplements and the eye-fucking from women on the street here in Leipzig and with women's overall responsiveness to my daygame approaches are really beginning to shine through. When I'm in the groove, as I wast today, I'm having women who pass Roosh's boner test with flying colours staring right into my eyes and smiling, women doing double takes with a big smile on their face and lots of other crazy shit going on, that I would scarcely believe it myself were it not for the fact that some of the responses from my opening them are beginning to back it up. If there are any guys on here who are struggling with confidence issues when approaching women, you need to get onto the no-fap program - and fast - since the much-reported positive effects with women are very real.
For example, today I was in a high-energy, DGAF mindset and roll into one of the major bookstores in town. I instantly make eye-contact with a solid 6.5 and decide I'll approach her. Now, given the fact that I had a young 8 go all histrionic on me yesterday, saying, "Oh my God ...", when I tried to open her, throwing her arms up in the air whilst in the middle of the shop, I must admit I didn't have the balls to immediately open her, so we ended up doing this dance where she moved insanely slowly after I walked up nearer to her, then she would linger for an eternity waiting for me to open her, before finally moving slowly to another part of the shelves, looking back at me. Anyway, when I did open her, she immediately broke into a big smile and was very receptive. Turned out she was a single mum with time to spare in the bookstore that day, but where I ended up getting tongue-tied talking about fiction, which is not surprising, since it's not my cup of tea in any case. After a few minutes of banter she ambles away, clearly chuffed that I'd finally hit on her. But I curse myself for not having had the balls to push further with it and for the fact that my mind went to jelly mid-way through the interaction. I bail from bookstore to reflect on where I've gone wrong - yet again.
Anyway, I decide to take a few minutes rest to reflect on my mistakes and then head into the cheap one euro shop in one of the malls. As I'm sauntering in, my attention is immediately drawn to a tall, skinny blonde going in before me. She's in her early to mid-20s and is a solid 8, I shit you not. Anyway, where the fucking courage came from to open her, I don't know, but I just go straight up to her like I own the joint and say, "It's like a bloody bazaar in here", in German. Now, her first response on turning to face me is, "Sorry, I didn't understand what you" to which I then say it more slowly, looking into her eyes with firm look. She then responds by saying, "Oh, yes, now I understand". She then pauses for a couple of seconds before saying, haltingly, "I'm sorry, I don't want this" ("Entschulding, Ich will das aber nicht"), meaning, obviously, the fact that I've started to chat her up. Perhaps oddly for me, I don't get stressed out by this and simply make a gesture with my hand and respond, "No problem" but I don't justify myself or offer any explanations. So, I go back to looking at the stationary on the shelf and expect her to do the same or just walk off. But she doesn't do this. Instead, she turns around to me at a 45 degree angle and mumbles a similar sentence, but in a very unsure voice, to the effect of, "Look, this isn't something I can do" and just stands there looking at me, but not saying anymore. The most striking thing about this is that it doesn't feel at all like a brush-off, even though looked at from the lens of the words alone, this would be the only reasonable conclusion to draw. What I notice is that there's a huge disconnect between her words and her body language here, an incongruity that will only become clear at the end of the interaction. After a few seconds of tense silence, I say to her, "Ah, there's that rule that you can't talk to strangers here, isn't there?", which then gets her smiling and we start to banter about Leipzig, what we're doing there, et.c., even though she's just uttered the words telling me not to hit on her. As this is taking place, I also notice how she's really getting invested in the conversation, even qualifying herself when I offer a contrary opinion about some terminology in the medical profession (she is a trainee doctor), as well as giving me other good IOIs, such as getting very girly and giggly, standing with her legs crossed facing me and generally falling into my frame the more I was steering the conversation and looking full-on into her eyes. She could have bailed at any time, I wasn't standing in the way and the exit of the shop was close, so it wasn't like she felt she had to remain glued to the spot. Five minutes later and we've found out about what we've studied, where we went to university, our professions, et.c. Mindful that she'd already told me that she's off to do further study in Switzerland in 4 days' time, I ask her straight out for a drink. She declines, but I can tell that her limbic brain is straining to say yes even though she says that she's got a boyfriend. I push a little further and say, "So, you schedule is really so full you can't manage it?". She pauses for a moment before saying, "Sorry, I'm afraid not". So, I wish her the best and we both go our separate ways. But I could feel the disconnect in her words from her body language and the sexual tension between us the whole time. I can't help wondering whether if I'd adopted a more forceful approach right to the very end, the result would have still been the same. This is the furthest I've got thus far with any woman in a daygame encounter, let alone a stunner, so I'm still trying to digest all this as I write it down.
Now, this is the second time this has happened in as many weeks, i.e., a girl who is really into the interaction after we've exchanged good eye-contact, who then drops the BF bombshell at the end, but where the body language and the verbal language and incongruent. My question to you guys is this: How would you have played this situation? Would you have still persisted and, if so, how?
For example, today I was in a high-energy, DGAF mindset and roll into one of the major bookstores in town. I instantly make eye-contact with a solid 6.5 and decide I'll approach her. Now, given the fact that I had a young 8 go all histrionic on me yesterday, saying, "Oh my God ...", when I tried to open her, throwing her arms up in the air whilst in the middle of the shop, I must admit I didn't have the balls to immediately open her, so we ended up doing this dance where she moved insanely slowly after I walked up nearer to her, then she would linger for an eternity waiting for me to open her, before finally moving slowly to another part of the shelves, looking back at me. Anyway, when I did open her, she immediately broke into a big smile and was very receptive. Turned out she was a single mum with time to spare in the bookstore that day, but where I ended up getting tongue-tied talking about fiction, which is not surprising, since it's not my cup of tea in any case. After a few minutes of banter she ambles away, clearly chuffed that I'd finally hit on her. But I curse myself for not having had the balls to push further with it and for the fact that my mind went to jelly mid-way through the interaction. I bail from bookstore to reflect on where I've gone wrong - yet again.
Anyway, I decide to take a few minutes rest to reflect on my mistakes and then head into the cheap one euro shop in one of the malls. As I'm sauntering in, my attention is immediately drawn to a tall, skinny blonde going in before me. She's in her early to mid-20s and is a solid 8, I shit you not. Anyway, where the fucking courage came from to open her, I don't know, but I just go straight up to her like I own the joint and say, "It's like a bloody bazaar in here", in German. Now, her first response on turning to face me is, "Sorry, I didn't understand what you" to which I then say it more slowly, looking into her eyes with firm look. She then responds by saying, "Oh, yes, now I understand". She then pauses for a couple of seconds before saying, haltingly, "I'm sorry, I don't want this" ("Entschulding, Ich will das aber nicht"), meaning, obviously, the fact that I've started to chat her up. Perhaps oddly for me, I don't get stressed out by this and simply make a gesture with my hand and respond, "No problem" but I don't justify myself or offer any explanations. So, I go back to looking at the stationary on the shelf and expect her to do the same or just walk off. But she doesn't do this. Instead, she turns around to me at a 45 degree angle and mumbles a similar sentence, but in a very unsure voice, to the effect of, "Look, this isn't something I can do" and just stands there looking at me, but not saying anymore. The most striking thing about this is that it doesn't feel at all like a brush-off, even though looked at from the lens of the words alone, this would be the only reasonable conclusion to draw. What I notice is that there's a huge disconnect between her words and her body language here, an incongruity that will only become clear at the end of the interaction. After a few seconds of tense silence, I say to her, "Ah, there's that rule that you can't talk to strangers here, isn't there?", which then gets her smiling and we start to banter about Leipzig, what we're doing there, et.c., even though she's just uttered the words telling me not to hit on her. As this is taking place, I also notice how she's really getting invested in the conversation, even qualifying herself when I offer a contrary opinion about some terminology in the medical profession (she is a trainee doctor), as well as giving me other good IOIs, such as getting very girly and giggly, standing with her legs crossed facing me and generally falling into my frame the more I was steering the conversation and looking full-on into her eyes. She could have bailed at any time, I wasn't standing in the way and the exit of the shop was close, so it wasn't like she felt she had to remain glued to the spot. Five minutes later and we've found out about what we've studied, where we went to university, our professions, et.c. Mindful that she'd already told me that she's off to do further study in Switzerland in 4 days' time, I ask her straight out for a drink. She declines, but I can tell that her limbic brain is straining to say yes even though she says that she's got a boyfriend. I push a little further and say, "So, you schedule is really so full you can't manage it?". She pauses for a moment before saying, "Sorry, I'm afraid not". So, I wish her the best and we both go our separate ways. But I could feel the disconnect in her words from her body language and the sexual tension between us the whole time. I can't help wondering whether if I'd adopted a more forceful approach right to the very end, the result would have still been the same. This is the furthest I've got thus far with any woman in a daygame encounter, let alone a stunner, so I'm still trying to digest all this as I write it down.
Now, this is the second time this has happened in as many weeks, i.e., a girl who is really into the interaction after we've exchanged good eye-contact, who then drops the BF bombshell at the end, but where the body language and the verbal language and incongruent. My question to you guys is this: How would you have played this situation? Would you have still persisted and, if so, how?