Some good things written here.
To answer was this in Russia no it was not. It was in us
To answer was this in Russia no it was not. It was in us
Quote: (02-14-2017 11:55 AM)questor70 Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 12:08 AM)Rusplaya Wrote:
...after about 20 mins I am fingering her.
...I finger her a bit more and afterwards she is like take my number.
wtf went wrong?
Here is the most important detail missing from your story.
Did you make her cum? More than once?
If you're really an expert at that sort of thing you'd be able to get her off in a public in a short amount of time and that would impress her enough to want to know how good you are at the real deal. Better yet if you whisper in her ear that it's just a taste of what you could do for her. You really have to make the most of physical contact because it's so much more persuasive than anything else.
Quote: (02-14-2017 06:34 AM)XXL Wrote:
From what he wrote I got the feeling that he straight up ignored her. Playfully brushing her off is much better. Ignoring means no engagement which only creates wider gap between you and her.
Besides there are value shittests and comfort ones. Different kind requires different approach. I suppose she was comfort shittesting him. Those cannot be ignored cause the girl is looking for some reasons to sleep with you.
Quote: (02-14-2017 01:36 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 11:55 AM)questor70 Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 12:08 AM)Rusplaya Wrote:
...after about 20 mins I am fingering her.
...I finger her a bit more and afterwards she is like take my number.
wtf went wrong?
Here is the most important detail missing from your story.
Did you make her cum? More than once?
If you're really an expert at that sort of thing you'd be able to get her off in a public in a short amount of time and that would impress her enough to want to know how good you are at the real deal. Better yet if you whisper in her ear that it's just a taste of what you could do for her. You really have to make the most of physical contact because it's so much more persuasive than anything else.
No. If you are really an expert on that sort of thing, you make her come while banging her. Fingering is for hornier than life kids. It just kills the sex drive afterwards, regarding of wheter she comes or not, and breaks the mistery.
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:17 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 02:27 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
I smirked when she kept asking me this question.
Wouldn't it have been easier to just give her a simple answer and keep things moving forward?
"You smiled"
"You seemed cool"
"I like your energy"
"I dunno. Should I be concerned? Are you a serial killer?"
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:56 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
I like your brown/blue/grey/hazel eyes as you stare deeply into them.
I also like your style of dress, you got that wild rocker chick thing going.
What do you say we get out of here and go for a walk.
Do you like wine or tequila?
I have have some great tunes in my Honda! lol
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:49 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:17 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 02:27 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
I smirked when she kept asking me this question.
Wouldn't it have been easier to just give her a simple answer and keep things moving forward?
"You smiled"
"You seemed cool"
"I like your energy"
"I dunno. Should I be concerned? Are you a serial killer?"
I think said the dumb line "your energy" It wasn't enough for her.
Quote: (02-14-2017 06:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
^Normally I agree with your posts, but for me making out with a girl in a club is something I have done a few times and it hasn't led anywhere.
I prefer to build up sexual tension, even looking at a girl in a sexual way can get her going.
Quote: (02-14-2017 05:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
What OP did wrong
XXL and rudeboy already touched on it but I will elaborate. Physically escalating (sic) in the club was the mistake.
Quote: (02-14-2017 06:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
This story still sounds too good to be true.
Quote: (02-14-2017 05:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
There are a few things in the OP that make me want to call BS but ok..I'll play along.
Quote: (02-14-2017 05:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
There are a few things in the OP that make me want to call BS but ok..I'll play along.
What OP did right:
Ignoring a girls shit test is actually one of the most effective techniques for handling them. It's especially effective if you look her straight in the eyes (which you should be doing anyway) so that she knows you heard her and then just continue steering the convo in the direction you want. You can't fail if you don't play.
But this case isn't about the shit tests...he got past that
What OP did wrong
XXL and rudeboy already touched on it but I will elaborate. Physically escalationg in the club was the mistake.
Think of the the attraction to comfort to arousal to bang sequence the same way you would as lighting the fuse on a firecracker. Would you light a firecracker in the club, then put it out and hope you can relight it later? No. You dont light that fuse until your in the place you want it to go off (bang)
The "make out" is lighting the fuse Why? Because once you kiss there's no more plausible deniability as to why you want to bounce to your (or her) place. If youre making out out and even fingering her then there's nothing left but the bang...and even the most slutty of sluts doesn't think of herself as a slut that chooses to go bang a random dude she just met in a bar.
(Some do yes...but I'm making a generalization about improving your odds of converting a makeout into a bang)
If you think she wants / will let you but you don't kiss in the club then moving to somewhere more private becomes an easier transition. (The right combination of attraction and comfort is key...but that's another topic) This is a much lower ant-slut defense barrier to overcome. Once out of the public eye, away from her judgemental friends, and every other potential issue that might cause resistance it's much easier for her to go from makeout to finger to bang and chalk t up to "I don't know why, ...I just got so turned on, caught up in the moment and it just happened" ...(or whatever version magical thinking she uses to tell herself that relieves her of the responsibility...but that's another topic)
Ideally you make out with a chick for the first time on the sofa (or bed is even better) watching a movie in your underwear.
Quote: (02-14-2017 06:39 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 06:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
^Normally I agree with your posts, but for me making out with a girl in a club is something I have done a few times and it hasn't led anywhere.
I prefer to build up sexual tension, even looking at a girl in a sexual way can get her going.
Actually I think we are in agreement....(my post was a bit hastily/poorly written and therefore awkward ).... but making out / fingering in the club was his mistake IMO:
Quote: (02-14-2017 05:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
What OP did wrong
XXL and rudeboy already touched on it but I will elaborate. Physically escalating (sic) in the club was the mistake.
Quote: (02-14-2017 06:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
This story still sounds too good to be true.
I definitely agree with you there.
Quote: (02-14-2017 05:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
There are a few things in the OP that make me want to call BS but ok..I'll play along.
Either OP is a celebrity or his 0-10 scale is way off. A true 7-8 chick, in the US saying "why pick me if you could have any girl in the club"?.... smacks a bit like a poorly veiled "humblebrag" better suited to the Penthouse forum or
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:59 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:56 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
I like your brown/blue/grey/hazel eyes as you stare deeply into them.
I also like your style of dress, you got that wild rocker chick thing going.
What do you say we get out of here and go for a walk.
Do you like wine or tequila?
I have have some great tunes in my Honda! lol
does that shit actually work fuck it ill try it man.
thanks buddy.
Quote: (02-14-2017 04:12 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
^Yes, it works and especially when your balls are full and your horny.
With a girl like that, assuming she is as cute or nice as you say she is. The words would have flown out of my mouth like butter, not because I have extreme game but because I see blood in the water.
You managed to get her to another location and have her in the bathroom again, why not get a BJ or pour some JD (jack daniels) on your dick and insert.
I will assume she did not have friends there, despite her saying so.
Quote: (02-14-2017 07:45 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
what is so off that you do not believe me buddy. This really happened and I never experienced something like this. Hence why made this post to see what more experienced people would of handled it.
Ugh just cause I am a relatively new account does not mean I am troll. Been on roosh forums for a while now just never made an actual account.
Again this story is not far fetched.
Quote: (02-14-2017 05:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
What OP did wrong
XXL and rudeboy already touched on it but I will elaborate. Physically escalationg in the club was the mistake.
Think of the the attraction to comfort to arousal to bang sequence the same way you would as lighting the fuse on a firecracker. Would you light a firecracker in the club, then put it out and hope you can relight it later? No. You dont light that fuse until your in the place you want it to go off (bang)
The "make out" is lighting the fuse Why? Because once you kiss there's no more plausible deniability as to why you want to bounce to your (or her) place. If youre making out out and even fingering her then there's nothing left but the bang...and even the most slutty of sluts doesn't think of herself as a slut that chooses to go bang a random dude she just met in a bar.
(Some do yes...but I'm making a generalization about improving your odds of converting a makeout into a bang)
If you think she wants / will let you but you don't kiss in the club then moving to somewhere more private becomes an easier transition. (The right combination of attraction and comfort is key...but that's another topic) This is a much lower ant-slut defense barrier to overcome. Once out of the public eye, away from her judgemental friends, and every other potential issue that might cause resistance it's much easier for her to go from makeout to finger to bang and chalk t up to "I don't know why, ...I just got so turned on, caught up in the moment and it just happened" ...(or whatever version magical thinking she uses to tell herself that relieves her of the responsibility...but that's another topic)
Ideally you make out with a chick for the first time on the sofa (or bed is even better) watching a movie in your underwear.
Quote: (02-14-2017 01:25 PM)El Padrone Wrote:
Hoser, the civility of the environment is irrelevant if you view yourself as a separate from it.
Even for those in Organized Crime Groups, Never insulting people is one of the most important things you learn one way or the other.
No matter how despicable your opponent in court is, insulting language is never used.
Judges don't insult criminals they're about to sentence to death.
Just something I've found useful in life. If you got issues with someone, scheme against the person, or have a man to man sit down.
Insults are the mark of plebians not of patricians.
Quote: (02-14-2017 10:29 PM)Mufasa Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:59 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2017 03:56 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
I like your brown/blue/grey/hazel eyes as you stare deeply into them.
I also like your style of dress, you got that wild rocker chick thing going.
What do you say we get out of here and go for a walk.
Do you like wine or tequila?
I have have some great tunes in my Honda! lol
does that shit actually work fuck it ill try it man.
thanks buddy.
Quote: (02-14-2017 04:12 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
^Yes, it works and especially when your balls are full and your horny.
With a girl like that, assuming she is as cute or nice as you say she is. The words would have flown out of my mouth like butter, not because I have extreme game but because I see blood in the water.
You managed to get her to another location and have her in the bathroom again, why not get a BJ or pour some JD (jack daniels) on your dick and insert.
I will assume she did not have friends there, despite her saying so.
Shit like this works because of the eye contact. Ive come to the conclusion that men hesitate to look a sexy girl in the eyes other wise it wouldn't be so effective. When you look her in the eyes like you are stealing her soul she can feel your energy. The eye contact allows you to get away with saying some hard body direct shit that she now loves you for being so bold--another thing men don't do. Its trouble and make it double.
Quote: (02-14-2017 07:45 PM)Rusplaya Wrote:
what is so off that you do not believe me buddy. This really happened and I never experienced something like this. Hence why made this post to see what more experienced people would of handled it.
Ugh just cause I am a relatively new account does not mean I am troll. Been on roosh forums for a while now just never made an actual account.
Again this story is not far fetched.
The story is not farfetched. What makes it farfetched is your delivery. Its like you came to brag rather than seek help or tell a cool story. Shit seems off...