Quote: (01-31-2017 05:20 AM)Vet-Boy Wrote:  

... you just can't group Indian girls all together the way you do. Women's/peoples physical appearances here literally change on a state by state basis here, because of the different cultures, climates, and therefore food/diet and exercise levels here. Im North Indian and am currently studying in a north indian state, and from my experience the sub race of the girls has to be taken into account as well (like punjabi, haryani, gujurati, south indian, etc.).

To the contrary, I think OP illustrated that very clearly just a few posts above.

I can still group them all together, that group is called 5+/10 WB.

Quote: (01-31-2017 05:54 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

Quote: (01-31-2017 05:20 AM)Vet-Boy Wrote:  

... you just can't group Indian girls all together the way you do. Women's/peoples physical appearances here literally change on a state by state basis here, because of the different cultures, climates, and therefore food/diet and exercise levels here. Im North Indian and am currently studying in a north indian state, and from my experience the sub race of the girls has to be taken into account as well (like punjabi, haryani, gujurati, south indian, etc.).

To the contrary, I think OP illustrated that very clearly just a few posts above.

I can still group them all together, that group is called 5+/10 WB.

Exactly. It's not that complicated to group them because the sample size is way too large.

Please stop "speculating" about the beauty of the women here. There's no point. Instead of speculating, share your experiences and strategies with Indian girls (or) some modifications you propose to my guide.

All I can say is that if you have the skill and connections to 'pull' hot girls then you can do it anywhere in India. (Assam, Tamilnadu , Kerala... you name it.)

Quote: (01-31-2017 05:20 AM)Vet-Boy Wrote:  

Its a great place to travel, and experience different cultures, and not THAT bad with women. I HIGHLY RECCOMEND social circle game because its really the only thing that works here and OP is pretty much spot on with his stuff, but I would just add on to take in other factors like sub race, and caste too instead of just disqualifying a huge pool of middle class pussy.

Pro tip: Any indian guys who speak fluent english of any kind, use it ALWAYS. Bitches love the sound of fluent english and reading it in messages. Seperates you from the beta guys who typ lik dis 2 get in der pants

Look here guys. Vet-boy gets it.

Social circle game works if you do it right. I can easily say that it's pretty easy to drown in pussy because the standards for men are low.

I always use english no matter what, especially while texting. Will work as long as you don't correlate 'speaking in english' with 'being cool'. Some girls hate it. Either you naturally text in english or you don't.

Quote: (01-30-2017 11:51 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

To be fair, I've heard that certain parts of the East Coast are a complete disaster for Indian guys, rife with self-hating Indian girls and racist white women. Hopefully someone can confirm this so I know where never to set foot in for the rest of my life.

I live in NYC and can confirm, the NE is hell for Indian guys. If it wasn't for the substantial presence of European and Russian women, I'd have bailed from here long ago lol. But I do fairly well with that demographic and from time to time will hook up with other kinds of chics (Asian/White/Black/Latina) so it's not too bad for me at least. But I've known of some Indian dudes who despite being well established with a lot else goin for them, had to go years without sex or settle for 40+ yr old women. It's brutal.

As an aside: for an area that prides itself on progressive/open-minded values, you can't help but notice the incredible narrow mindedness of the women here towards certain kinds of guys (and not just Indian guys either - anyone who isn't a white american dude has to struggle harder).

But back to the topic - it's rare for me to even come across a cute Indian chic. I'm not joking when I say it happens about once A YEAR, lol. And I go out tons to all of the nicer parts of Manhattan, and live and work here as well. It's not that you never see any Indian women around, just that the overall quality tends to be significantly lower than what their competition is bringing to the table.

I'm not against hookin up with Indian chics, but as it stands, there's too few of them worth chasing after, and too many beautiful women of other kinds around...

Quote: (01-31-2017 09:38 AM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

Quote: (01-30-2017 11:51 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

To be fair, I've heard that certain parts of the East Coast are a complete disaster for Indian guys, rife with self-hating Indian girls and racist white women. Hopefully someone can confirm this so I know where never to set foot in for the rest of my life.

I live in NYC and can confirm, the NE is hell for Indian guys. If it wasn't for the substantial presence of European and Russian women, I'd have bailed from here long ago lol. But I do fairly well with that demographic and from time to time will hook up with other kinds of chics (Asian/White/Black/Latina) so it's not too bad for me at least. But I've known of some Indian dudes who despite being well established with a lot else goin for them, had to go years without sex or settle for 40+ yr old women. It's brutal.

Damn, even in NYC? I could see New Jersey or New England being rough places to game (based on hearsay, I've never been there), but I would imagine that NYC is so diverse that there wouldn't be any problems. Would you mind sharing more of your experiences in the city?

For what it's worth, I have heard that majorly liberal cities are terrible for Asian and Indian guys. Not sure how true this is since I've never actually lived in one. I do okay in my Bay Area suburb off of Tinder; lots of 6/10 Indian girls who are thirsty and easy to hook up with. I also have done relatively well with black girls, Indian girls, and a few other minorities (Asian girls mostly) in southern California. White girls have been hard for me everywhere but I also rarely pursue em and don't like them much.

I've said this before, but when I lived in Atlanta, as an Asian American who Mexicans think is Mexican, I found the "racist" country girls more open to me than the "open" city transplant girls.

My guess is the latter saw me as a charity group, which is not masculine, while the former less so.

Quote: (01-31-2017 11:17 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

Damn, even in NYC? I could see New Jersey or New England being rough places to game (based on hearsay, I've never been there), but I would imagine that NYC is so diverse that there wouldn't be any problems. Would you mind sharing more of your experiences in the city?

For what it's worth, I have heard that majorly liberal cities are terrible for Asian and Indian guys. Not sure how true this is since I've never actually lived in one. I do okay in my Bay Area suburb off of Tinder; lots of 6/10 Indian girls who are thirsty and easy to hook up with. I also have done relatively well with black girls, Indian girls, and a few other minorities (Asian girls mostly) in southern California. White girls have been hard for me everywhere but I also rarely pursue em and don't like them much.

It's not impossible to see interracial couples of course, but it's incredibly rare. No one will look at you weird or anything like that which is great I guess; I'm just saying you don't see it that commonly. Bear in mind everything I say is specific to Manhattan, as this is where I spend the vast majority of my time.

But yeah, because it's so diverse there's many different kinds of women you can game, and I've been lucky enough to be here to take full advantage :-D

I'm also a bit older (33 yrs old) so I'm a bit removed from the goings on at college campuses and such, so maybe things are better for the kids these days? I have no idea.

For me, I get no love on Tinder/OKC etc but through day game, networking events etc. I'm able to get with many different kinds of women. Last year I hooked up with this gorgeous Russian stripper I picked up at a cafe. So lots of opportunities to meet women everywhere.

But in all my years of partying in Manhattan and Los Angeles, I can honestly say I've literally never seen an Indian or Asian guy walk up to a cute girl and get anywhere.

Maybe things will change for the younger generation, I'll probably be too old by then though lol :-D

Quote: (02-01-2017 04:28 AM)262 Wrote:  

I've said this before, but when I lived in Atlanta, as an Asian American who Mexicans think is Mexican, I found the "racist" country girls more open to me than the "open" city transplant girls.

This is just too true for Washington DC as well. When I went go out gaming there and meet a cute white girl who is receptive to me/give me a decent conversation, they always end up being somewhere from the Mid-West or somewhere in the South. Both areas which are supposed to be more conservative.

Needless to say, I did not do well with average to cute, liberal, DC area SWPL white chicks.

Liberals are known for projecting

I see Asian guys, subcontinent guys with good-looking broads in Boston all the time; I know they can pull on Tinder/OKC too. In some ways it sees a better city for that demographic than regular ol' white guys like me. FWIW

->Regarding penis size, I know most of you got pretty average 5 inch penis. Not a big deal. There are a lot of ways to maximize what you have been given. Most girls honestly don't care about your penis size since average size is way too lower than 5 in India.

Good god. If thats true you guys really need to buy the Bathmate and start doing some stretches. I'm Indian but I definitely don't have this problem. I guess it comes from not having good genes and poor nutrition. Alot of western women would laugh you out of the bedroom if you whip that out. I guess in Asian countries its not a big deal since it is the norm. For travelling abroad I guess Japan would be the ideal This wouldnt fly well with Latinas, Whites, and Blacks. Anything lower then 5 is Tiny. A average penis size is around 6 - 7 inches in Western Countries.

Quote: (02-03-2017 03:05 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

A average penis size is around 6 - 7 inches in Western Countries.

Sounds like you've seen a lot of Western dicks.

Quote: (02-03-2017 03:05 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

->Regarding penis size, I know most of you got pretty average 5 inch penis. Not a big deal. There are a lot of ways to maximize what you have been given. Most girls honestly don't care about your penis size since average size is way too lower than 5 in India.

Good god. If thats true you guys really need to buy the Bathmate and start doing some stretches. I'm Indian but I definitely don't have this problem. I guess it comes from not having good genes and poor nutrition. Alot of western women would laugh you out of the bedroom if you whip that out. I guess in Asian countries its not a big deal since it is the norm. For travelling abroad I guess Japan would be the ideal This wouldnt fly well with Latinas, Whites, and Blacks. Anything lower then 5 is Tiny. A average penis size is around 6 - 7 inches in Western Countries.

I have already clarified it. ( "There are a lot of ways to maximize what you have been given. Most girls honestly don't care about your penis size since average size is way too lower than 5 in India. ")

what exactly is the point you're trying to make? The article is about gaming in India for Indian guys.

The dick size thing is nonsense, if you're attractive enough to a girl she'll be cooing about how big you are even if your package is pitifully small. Who the fuck knows how big the average Indian dude's dick is, more importantly who the fuck cares. Your attitude towards yourself and your body is what's truly important. If you're running around with the mentality that women despise you for your small Indian penis, guess what? Your own negativity and self hatred will shine through in your personality, and THAT will be what fucks you over in the end.

two words :

give up !

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=hudfFlzSyQ0

Ok a ghetto hoodrat is indicative of all western women lol

As for 6-7 inches being the average dick size in the west, I'd like to see where you got that "fact"

You guys need to get over yourself. Go youtube a couple of videos on women speaking about penis size's and you will hear the truth. Women actually like Girth more then length. Boys can get insecure about there penis size but honestly get over yourself and be men. Like they say your genetics shape your destiny. I mean alot of women hate the "skinny dick", and length seems to be overrated. We all know you don't need the biggest dick in the world to be a ladies man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQeigbIPq3Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAyAsMwerVA

Quote: (02-04-2017 05:09 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

You guys need to get over yourself. Go youtube a couple of videos on women speaking about penis size's and you will hear the truth. Women actually like Girth more then length. Boys can get insecure about there penis size but honestly get over yourself and be men. Like they say your genetics shape your destiny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQeigbIPq3Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAyAsMwerVA

What point are you trying to make with this post? Who knows or cares whether women actually "like girth more than length"? Women say all kinds of shit. "I like nice guys, I don't like black guys, etc etc"...chances are it's generally bullshit.

I love how this devolved into an IRT dick thread

This a bit of a sidenote, but I feel like a big reason why Indian guys struggle in the game is the way they're raised. I'm not just talking about the pitfalls of traditional Indian/Asian parenting, but more how that upbringing can contrast with other cultures. For example, I was raised by fairly liberal/chilled out Indian parents in a heavily Indian/Asian suburb. Despite the fact that I was never emotionally abused or aggressively tiger parented, I nonetheless grew in an Indian/Asian milieu, one that determined my sense of humor and general personality. To this day, I get along great with minorities like Arabs, Latinos, and Asians, while I have a difficult time vibing with rich white people and Persians (to give an example). This carries over to women; I have a fine time with many different breeds of women, but extremely poor chemistry with most white women. I don't think it's because they're racist, I just think that it's because particular culture and sense of humor don't mesh well with theirs, raised as they were in places like Huntington or Concord.

I think people generally do best with demographics that they're used to dealing with, and occasionally with some others that may see them as exotic. I do very well with Indian girls from the Bay Area/those with a little more Indian cultural influence and upper-middle class black girls; I fall flat when it comes to rich sorority white girls, cholas, and cliquey Asians. Again, not because of racism, simply because our personalities don't mesh in an attractive way.

By contrast, I know Indian guys who grew up around rich white people and absolutely slay the women. One guy I lived was regularly banging the bitchiest, most basic blondes, not even through having particularly good game, but simply by knowing how to deal with them. His game was basically just years of exposure to these people. He was also raised by extremely whitewashed parents with a big circle of white friends. Point being it's not race that will fuck you over with certain demographics, it's upbringing and culture. If I grew up poor in some Latino hood I have no doubt I'd be slaying cholitas, similarly if I identified with an Asian hypebeast crowd I'd do well with that female demographic. I actually know Indian guys who have grown up in all of these cultural milieus, and their success rate with women of those particular demographics validates what I'm trying to say.

When it comes to actionable advice on how to deal with this, all I can tell you is that consistent self-improvement will help you broaden your net. I've hooked up with Egyptian, Mexican, Korean, and Ethiopian girls recently, when at the beginning of my game career I was pretty restricted to a more narrow demographic. I'm sure more experienced/advanced guys like Kaotic and Cobra could attest to this being true on a bigger scale.

Never underestimate the intelligence of women. Men are creatures of logic and women are creatures of emotions. Regardless women know what they want in terms of men. The reason girth means more then length is because the penis will hit more nerves and it will feel alot better for her. Women enjoy great sex, and good amount of guys cant satisfy there women.

When it comes to dating were all products being sold to the opposite gender. But the reality is women do the choosing in the dating. Guys are idiots and make alot of mistakes. These mistakes can be prevented if they listen to somethings women say. Some guys call themselves players but wont even trim excess body hair e.g. back hair. Which is a huge turnoff for women.

This whole women are stupid and dont know what they want is said by gimmicky puas.

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Regardless women know what they want in terms of men.

Rarely when they're younger, sometimes when they're older. Hardly enough to classify as fact.

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The reason girth means more then length is because the penis will hit more nerves and it will feel alot better for her. Women enjoy great sex, and good amount of guys cant satisfy there women.

There are multiple ways to "satisfy" women, and the argument about sex positions and dick sizes is like the height/game debate. Does height help? Yes. Is being short the end of the world? FAR from it. Yeah, you'll run into some size queens occasionally, but unless you have a micropenis there's other reasons for failure.

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When it comes to dating were all products being sold to the opposite gender. But the reality is women do the choosing in the dating. Guys are idiots and make alot of mistakes. These mistakes can be prevented if they listen to somethings women say.

You mean like this?



More often than not the problem is listening too much to what they say and not how they act.

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This whole women are stupid and dont know what they want is said by gimmicky puas.

While said PUAs definitely hyped the fact up, a lot of women really do not know what they want and have to rely on external stimuli and their emotions to figure out what they want (and often they're wrong). Based off of your earlier posts in this thread, you seem to be listening too much to women on the internet.

Quote: (02-03-2017 03:05 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

->Regarding penis size, I know most of you got pretty average 5 inch penis. Not a big deal. There are a lot of ways to maximize what you have been given. Most girls honestly don't care about your penis size since average size is way too lower than 5 in India.

Good god. If thats true you guys really need to buy the Bathmate and start doing some stretches. I'm Indian but I definitely don't have this problem. I guess it comes from not having good genes and poor nutrition. Alot of western women would laugh you out of the bedroom if you whip that out. I guess in Asian countries its not a big deal since it is the norm. For travelling abroad I guess Japan would be the ideal This wouldnt fly well with Latinas, Whites, and Blacks. Anything lower then 5 is Tiny. A average penis size is around 6 - 7 inches in Western Countries.

^ This is the biggest reason why Indian dudes cant get ahead.. Self Hate and Crab Mentality.. It was drilled into Indians by the Brits and then its been passed on from One gen to the next and so on.. CRAB MENTALITY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...0mentality

I am not sure if we should get a Mod to pay attention to the IRT type talk by this dude. But, he starts with "I know".. then "knows the avg size" Then.. "has no idea if its true".. then goes "But yo! I am hung"..

The diversity of India is way way more complex than Europe (as I mentioned in one of the posts above).. And same way peoples skin complexion changes from light to darka and as diverse of a gene pool.. and you are Mr.Manhattan who surely did the survey and found that he was the exception..

Quote: (02-04-2017 06:49 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I love how this devolved into an IRT dick thread

kaotic - Did you just realize he spent 4 posts talking negative about dick size.. and this thread was about helping folks.. he does another Self hating beat down..

Quote: (02-05-2017 02:49 AM)Agastya Wrote:  

This a bit of a sidenote, but I feel like a big reason why Indian guys struggle in the game is the way they're raised. I'm not just talking about the pitfalls of traditional Indian/Asian parenting, but more how that upbringing can contrast with other cultures. For example, I was raised by fairly liberal/chilled out Indian parents in a heavily Indian/Asian suburb. Despite the fact that I was never emotionally abused or aggressively tiger parented, I nonetheless grew in an Indian/Asian milieu, one that determined my sense of humor and general personality. To this day, I get along great with minorities like Arabs, Latinos, and Asians, while I have a difficult time vibing with rich white people and Persians (to give an example). This carries over to women; I have a fine time with many different breeds of women, but extremely poor chemistry with most white women. I don't think it's because they're racist, I just think that it's because particular culture and sense of humor don't mesh well with theirs, raised as they were in places like Huntington or Concord.

I think people generally do best with demographics that they're used to dealing with, and occasionally with some others that may see them as exotic. I do very well with Indian girls from the Bay Area/those with a little more Indian cultural influence and upper-middle class black girls; I fall flat when it comes to rich sorority white girls, cholas, and cliquey Asians. Again, not because of racism, simply because our personalities don't mesh in an attractive way.

By contrast, I know Indian guys who grew up around rich white people and absolutely slay the women. One guy I lived was regularly banging the bitchiest, most basic blondes, not even through having particularly good game, but simply by knowing how to deal with them. His game was basically just years of exposure to these people. He was also raised by extremely whitewashed parents with a big circle of white friends. Point being it's not race that will fuck you over with certain demographics, it's upbringing and culture. If I grew up poor in some Latino hood I have no doubt I'd be slaying cholitas, similarly if I identified with an Asian hypebeast crowd I'd do well with that female demographic. I actually know Indian guys who have grown up in all of these cultural milieus, and their success rate with women of those particular demographics validates what I'm trying to say.

When it comes to actionable advice on how to deal with this, all I can tell you is that consistent self-improvement will help you broaden your net. I've hooked up with Egyptian, Mexican, Korean, and Ethiopian girls recently, when at the beginning of my game career I was pretty restricted to a more narrow demographic. I'm sure more experienced/advanced guys like Kaotic and Cobra could attest to this being true on a bigger scale.

Yes, lot of good points above.. Exposure & Experience CAN give relevant competence. I know of a Nerdy South Indian FOB dude who went from small town boy self image to wanting only blondes, get through a bunch of them to realize he did not like them that much and moving on.

So, another factor that plays in is AFFINITY.. I may find typical small town USA culture a bit boring, but Latin American culture is naturally very interesting to me.. So INTEREST drives one as well.

I know a dude who had a tall blonde on his arm through Uni and another 2 who married them. The dick size IRT wants he can try to call them for a survey

NO wonder you guys are here. Just get emotional and afraid of the truth. You guys rather believe PUA rhetoric and pseudo science then the truth. Ive clearly stated you dont need a big dick for women a normal penis size will do. But no more of that. The problem isnt what I said, the problem is you guys. Your just like the politically correct left. You guys get easily triggered and probably need a safe space to deal with it lol.

It has nothing to do with self hatred it has to do with reality. It's about creating strategies that are pragmatic and grounded in reality. The truth is most indian guys have it tougher in the dating game thats why there here. The real players never even heard of pua and organically run through women. You can believe women dont know what they want, i just need to keep approaching women and etc. But to accept the truth of the mating game will get you further and lead to greater success.

Quote: (02-05-2017 02:39 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

You can believe women dont know what they want, i just need to keep approaching women and etc. But to accept the truth of the mating game will get you further and lead to greater success.

I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Most women absolutely know who they're most physically attracted to, and will broadcast undeniable signals of such if you just care to observe them with a keen, experienced eye.

But in terms of dating and relationships, it gets a bit murky... the same behavior that last week was perfectly ok, might suddenly be problematic to her this week...