If they had male sex drives people would be having 100 times more sex.

They do like sex, just noooooo way near as much as males.

Simple evolutionary reason:

Males sexual investment = zero Fire off as many shots as you can get away with and spread your genes
Females sexual investment = life threatening and 5-8 years Have sex and become helpess for a few months, and have to look after a baby for a few years.

Quote: (12-23-2016 09:05 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

If they had male sex drives people would be having 100 times more sex.

They do like sex, just noooooo way near as much as males.

Simple evolutionary reason:

Males sexual investment = zero Fire off as many shots as you can get away with and spread your genes
Females sexual investment = life threatening and 5-8 years Have sex and become helpess for a few months, and have to look after a baby for a few years.

Wild sluts taken out of the picture, I'd say that women in happily committed relationships where they trust their man and are in love with him can have similar sex drives. A lot of men don't make efforts to become or remain attractive. While in general, you're right that women have lower sex drives relative to men (or similar, but more reservations about acting on them for the reasons you mentioned above, plus they have a higher risk of getting STD's), I think there are mitigating factors when they are deeply in love with a man they find attractive. I can remember fondly some girlfriends who were really in love with me who honestly wore me out. I had one that woke me up in the middle of night, and that was after some earlier 2-3 hour sessions!

In my opinion, answer is not "women want sex more", but "women can have unlimited amount of sex, while men cannot". Then it´s just about whether they want it or don´t want it.

"Testosterone" is just some made up chemical hormone name that nobody understands. What really governs high sex drives are the kidneys. Naturally skinny people have healthy and strong kidneys. The adrenal glands sit on top of the kidneys and they spark our sex drives into overdrive. But its too bad we live stress filled lifestyles which often leads to adrenal fatigue, and a mopey sex drive. But to be slim is to be sexy.

Everytime a man has heterosexual sex, a woman has sex.

I think dante nero says it best.
"Men want sex; women want good sex. Sex for men is like pizza, even a shitty made pizza is still pizza. Sex to women is like eating Creame brûlée."

Quote: (12-24-2016 04:30 PM)Meat Head Wrote:  

Everytime a man has heterosexual sex, a woman has sex.

There really isn't bad sex for men since we orgasm almost every time. As Roost said, the boner with a 5 will have the same blood flow as a 10. Obviously ducking a whale won't be good but an average vs hot girl will be nearly the same.

Meanwhile most guys are just focused on their own orgasm and don't give the girl max pleasure, so when she does reach that pinnacle it's golden

Women don't want sex as much as men because women don't value sex the way men do. It's WAY easier for a woman to have sex than a man.

On top of that, sex is transactional for women in a sense that it isn't for men. Men want sex for pleasure. Women sometimes want it for pleasure, sometimes for money, sometimes for status, sometimes for validation, sometimes for a job, sometimes for commitment, shelter, resources, access, social proof, etc.

The same way that men think about their money, is how women feel about their vaginas.

They have no issue spending it, but they expect something beneficial in return.

In that sense you cannot compare male and female sex drives.

Well I think the reason sex is transactional for a woman is the fact that they really can't give a man value outside of sex. Truthfully, women have only evolved to give men sexual pleasure.

In terms of sex drives, whatever a woman's drive is, she will suppress it because of the environment. (Avoid slut shaming) but look at women on vacation, no slut shaming and they indulge.

If you could eat McDonald's every day and not get sick, would you do it? Decent chance. See, I guess maybe women might want it a lot more than they act, but understand how to manipulate a man's sex drive in their favor. A wife will withhold it to control her husband.

That of course is obvious. But I truly wonder what they physically desire. I still believe it is not that much of a man, mainly because

http://www.rooshv.com/how-the-male-sex-d...anipulated

http://www.rooshv.com/the-male-thirst-ep...ed-by-porn

The question might as well be, do women want ORGASMS as much as men?

Quote: (12-24-2016 10:14 PM)StephCurrybeast Wrote:  

Well I think the reason sex is transactional for a woman is the fact that they really can't give a man value outside of sex.

Sad but true in a nutshell. They don't really bring anything else to the table.

The only reason most men have girlfriends is because of social conditioning and the very real fact that 80% of men can't have sex with attractive women if they aren't in a relationship. The men who can have sex with strangers on a consistent basis is an outlier.

I'm 25 and I've been wanting a relationship because I've never been in one and I'm tired of putting in time for random hoes. Night game for most guys means lots of 6s and 7s. When I go to the club I'm competing with guys that are taller and better looking for women that aren't even high quality.

I'm at a point where I wouldn't mind 1 chick and the occasional side piece.

That being said, I'd rather be single than with a girlfriend that totally drains me emotionally and mentally. I only want to be drained sexually.

Quote: (12-23-2016 06:58 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Every bar would be like a gay bathhouse.

Great quote.

Life would be good if they had our sex drive...

Or if you were gay and could get laid for showing up.

Quote: (12-24-2016 11:05 PM)Unchained Wrote:  

I'm 25 and I've been wanting a relationship because I've never been in one and I'm tired of putting in time for random hoes. Night game for most guys means lots of 6s and 7s. When I go to the club I'm competing with guys that are taller and better looking for women that aren't even high quality.

That is a great comment, and perhaps worth exploring in a different thread.

I have always thought the key to getting 1-2 point higher SMV pussy was enduring a LTR.

Like you say, gaming for casual sex puts you a few SMV points lower.

It could be a 4 point SMV spread benefit for LTRing up.

The whole reason behind the fact that men are suppose to approach and not a womem who approaches is simply down to the simple fact that guys want it more.

Is this the most beta thread on this forum if not please forward the link. I like a good laugh as much as the next guy.

What is it with the influx of recent idiotic newbie threads?

Is this common knowledge?

Quote: (12-23-2016 07:09 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Seriously imagine if men and women had the same sex drive- there would be no internet, sky scrapers, or real civilization. We would be rutting each other in the streets, like a gay pride parade every day with nothing getting done.

So the answer to your question is women want sex nowhere near as much as men because if they did society would collapse.

That might partly explain AFRICA... What I'm saying is politically incorrect, of course, to say the least...

"According to Durex, Nigeria is rated the number-one sexually satisfied nation in the world with 67 percent of its population claiming sexual gratification. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Nigerians also take the longest time having sex, at 24 minutes per average session. The stats come as rather surprising given Nigeria’s conservative views on same-sex marriages, having recently banned these unions, and the prevalence of Islamic extremism, which dominates the country. Then again, Nigerian women have also been ranked the most unfaithful in the world with 62 percent having admitted cheating on a partner. I digress."

http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relation...-countries

Quote: (12-27-2016 03:49 PM)HungJohnson69 Wrote:  

Quote: (12-23-2016 07:09 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Seriously imagine if men and women had the same sex drive- there would be no internet, sky scrapers, or real civilization. We would be rutting each other in the streets, like a gay pride parade every day with nothing getting done.

So the answer to your question is women want sex nowhere near as much as men because if they did society would collapse.

That might partly explain AFRICA... What I'm saying is politically incorrect, of course, to say the least...

"According to Durex, Nigeria is rated the number-one sexually satisfied nation in the world with 67 percent of its population claiming sexual gratification. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Nigerians also take the longest time having sex, at 24 minutes per average session. The stats come as rather surprising given Nigeria’s conservative views on same-sex marriages, having recently banned these unions, and the prevalence of Islamic extremism, which dominates the country. Then again, Nigerian women have also been ranked the most unfaithful in the world with 62 percent having admitted cheating on a partner. I digress."

http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relation...-countries

Perhaps there is a correlation between high Nigerian female sex drives and unfaithfulness? I've never seen a study that compared a woman's sex drive against her faithfulness factor. I do remember reading a study that higher testosterone men are more likely to have affairs and cheat than lower T men. Perhaps because higher T men are more aggressive, they pursue those affairs, whereas the lower T man might want to cheat, but doesn't have the drive to do so. Interesting food for thought.

Quote: (12-27-2016 08:05 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Perhaps there is a correlation between high Nigerian female sex drives and unfaithfulness? I've never seen a study that compared a woman's sex drive against her faithfulness factor. I do remember reading a study that higher testosterone men are more likely to have affairs and cheat than lower T men.

My hypothesis is that high testosterone affects both genders this way in some parts of Africa. (And perhaps this can be seen in a certain minority in the United States as well - although high obesity rate probably counters it to some extent..)

A friend of mine spent some time in Ghana, and she said that it was perfectly normal for a girl to have several boyfriends at the same time... Sex is their favorite pass-time there. I kind of envy them, life would be much more simpler had I been born there...

For game purposes it is probably better to assume women want sex more than men.

Quote: (12-24-2016 04:41 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

I think dante nero says it best.
"Men want sex; women want good sex. Sex for men is like pizza, even a shitty made pizza is still pizza. Sex to women is like eating Creame brûlée."

That's what matter the most : Normal Sex vs ExtraOrdinary Sex
Instead of focusing on how handsome, alpha (or any other stupidity) you need to be to give a girl the sex she craves How do you use what you already read on the Game forum to your advantage?

Quote: (12-28-2016 04:18 AM)Meat Head Wrote:  

For game purposes it is probably better to assume women want sex more than men.

Is women sex drive higher than man?

There is no good answer to this question, it's not even a question worth of attention, like using your own brain against you.

If it's higher then use it against them like a hunter would set a trap knowing that it's only a matter of time before the animal come to check and fall in it and if it's not then use your own sex drive to submit them into your realm of lust where you'll make them discover what debauchery really mean...

At some moments and with some girls, I think that is actually true. My mind is often preoccupied with 1000 different things that I want to explore, research, read about, meet and discuss with people, do or that simply interest me. Sometimes I place hobbies and interests higher than sex on my priority list. This leads to some girls getting pissed when they have nothing going on other than cooking, cleaning and work and don't understand how I could possibly not want to meet up with them for their constant neediness

Then again, when I was single I remember the drive to acquire some poonany was high, simply because the supply was volatile and unsecured. Now that I'm in an LTR, I've mellowed out. My gf tried the withholding sex gamble over an argument once, boy did she get a surprise to discover that men aren't as needy as the media makes them out to be: I just did my own stuff and hobbies and after a while she came crawling back begging to get fucked. Never tried that gambit since then.

Depends largely on the girl but I feel like overall they need it less than us.

I have only had one LTR who was extremely good with sex drive. When I mean good she was actively pushing me and wanting it all the time... Which I never complained about of course.

It depends. When I'm out at the bar, I'm absolutely positive I want to bang all those chicks in their slutty little outfits 10000000000X more than any of them would ever want to bang me.

But when I'm seeing a girl, I tend to just want to fuck once whenever she comes over and then go do something else, whereas the girl usually wants to do it over and over again, a few times per day.

Men's sex drive is unwavering, whereas women's sex drive is dependent upon already having a suitable mate.