if I ever get famous, a ton of women are going to feel like superstars for ghosting me on Tinder or via text. This makes me not want to get famous.

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:12 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

if I ever get famous, a ton of women are going to feel like superstars for ghosting me on Tinder or via text. This makes me not want to get famous.

Delete and create a new tinder account right before you're about to make it to deny them attention they don't deserve.

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:18 PM)Razor Beast Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:12 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

if I ever get famous, a ton of women are going to feel like superstars for ghosting me on Tinder or via text. This makes me not want to get famous.

Delete and create a new tinder account right before you're about to make it to deny them attention they don't deserve.

I'm assuming they have already taken screenshots. Women are packrats when it comes to dirt.

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:18 PM)Razor Beast Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:12 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

if I ever get famous, a ton of women are going to feel like superstars for ghosting me on Tinder or via text. This makes me not want to get famous.

Delete and create a new tinder account right before you're about to make it to deny them attention they don't deserve.

It wouldn't matter. Girls you never knew will pretend she was that girl you dated for a while until she decided you're better off as friends.

My friend was in a band in LA and, when they started having some success, had chicks pulling that scam left and right. They claimed to be "blowing rails backstage" and "dropping the best Superman E" with him. Meanwhile, he doesn't even drink.

Quote: (08-14-2016 07:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

I think that many men -- and 'sphere dudes in particular -- misunderstand the reason for women's love of, and addiction to, social media. It's really not just attention whoring. Of course there is plenty of that, but it's far from being the whole story, or even most of it.

The even more important reason -- so basic and simple that it can almost be forgotten -- is that most women are very social creatures. They love and enjoy social action, of almost every kind, for its own sake. They love conversation, intrigue, gossip, the whole gamut of the social game, and they love it in the same ineluctable way as many men love driving a car. Women hate boredom and the experience of social isolation, even if it lasts a mere moment; so they're always looking to stir things up, to get some social action going. And this is the one (non-sexual) aspect of life that they are often good and creative at.

Social media provides them with an endless opportunity to do so, and being the simple and direct creatures they are, they take it -- because why wouldn't they? It expands the circle of possibility tremendously -- but it's not merely, or even mainly, for the purpose of directing pointed attention to themselves; that is a part of it and more so in some cases than others, but it's as often as not subsumed in the more basic purpose of just having an ever-replenished and ever-absorbing supply of things to gossip about, to bitch about, to laugh about, to whine about and to share -- and this, for them, is a greater part of life than most men can readily imagine.

If you take this humble Texan slut, is she really posting this Tinder exchange to "attention whore"? Sure, but more than anything she posts it because it's part of her natural social instincts: she sees the dude win the gold medal, she recognizes him from her Tinder, and she's like "OMG, this is so crazy... I have to tweet this!!". She is not really doing this out of a deep seated need for validation as much as because she is a completely social creature and she cannot imagine missing an opportunity to get some action going, maybe some retweets, some correct OMGs and other reactions from her friends in her timeline, even something from her mom (this is from her Twitter account):



If she can get some attention whoring props from this, so much the better -- but it's not really the most basic thing that drives her (and of course the crack that this is her "greatest accomplishment" is meant as a self-deprecating millennial piece of sarcasm, lest someone mistake it for anything else).

TLOZ, great points. Its so inherent in who they are, the socialness and attention seeking. Allow me to pile on a theory I've been toying with lately and forgive me as I'm not as eloquent as you.

I worked in a female dominated office for two years and wow the bullshit I'd hear. Whining, preening, screaming, crying [my manager cried infront of the CEO and SVP at a bar. Like full blown on, had a meltdown when the affable CEO asked a question about an intraoffice quibble over a client and she shouted "I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT" while bursting into tears and running to the bathroom. To which the blunt. man of the people CEO says "WHOOPS, wrong question"], temper tantrums, gossip, inane social media bullshit, and everything inbetween. I could go on adnauseum but you get the picture.

My head hurt for quite some time. My soul was flatlined.

Then one day, after being bitter with this shit for too long, it made sense.

You know how your mom just can't help but inquire about something when you return from a trip? How women can't help but comment on the weather? How they can't help but complain if the pizza is a little messy or the elevator is too cramped?

Its all a reproductive/survival mechanism. By bringing up this bullshit, they get attention and thus if something goes right or wrong, those eyes paying attention will have human instinct take over and come to the rescue.

Thats why women are so social, safety in numbers. They dont actually care about anything theyre discussing. They care about what the social stickiness "investment" provides them.

Whether its good attention or bad, the goal is attention. Attention is safety for them.

Also, going to the reproductive point, if they have attention, they are worth of care and investment and thus will have provisioning if a RVF'er shoots a live one and pulls the rip cord once the tab turns blue. SEE, Mommy, might not be able to lock daddy down but her social skills locked you down that sweet lego set, Gameboy plus, and some other shit.

Once I understood all this, I stopped "hearing women" and started hearing white noise from them.

It also explains why some chicks resent men on a gut level and others love the "bad boy independent" streak, we dont need their fucking nets and can fend for ourselves. (I thought of goldmund when I wrote that line, no homo)

Ok, thats it. TLOZ, great stuff. Interested to see if my "meta" analysis on attention is obvious everyone or I'm a genius. HA!

Breaking News: Tinder is a big joke to most girls.

Keep in mind that their experience is very different from yours. They can pull in a zillion matches a day with no effort, and those douches are tossing out every pathetic line conceivable. If I had such a luxury, I would make an effort to hone in on the best candidates because that's what makes logical sense, but obviously girls don't think that way. The desperate/thirsty/spammy behavior of men on Tinder makes it feel like something that should not be taken seriously, and girls act in accordance with that feeling. Thus, they're content to allow scores of men way out of their league to slip though the cracks without giving a shit. And if something like this happens? Funny story! No big deal cause there's plenty more where that came from.

And the above is exactly why I think approaching in person is going to become a powerful niche in the next decade or so.

Most men are cowards who hate doing things that make them uncomfortable, and spamming thirsty messages at girl after girl online from the safety and relative anonymity of their smartphone is the safe and comfortable thing to do. Therefore, girls get so much male attention online that they don't even remember half of it. Who will they remember though? The one guy or one of the few guys who had the balls to approach them in person.

I think that you are all way overthinking this and looking for a deeper meaning when there is not one. It is just a girl posting something a bit funny on social media about like girls do.

Lol. When a girls pulls that crap on me. I ask them,"why aren't you married to him and having his babies?"or "yeah you'd probably never going to better than him, he's one in a million". You guys should see the looks on their faces.

Quote: (08-15-2016 03:31 AM)the-dream Wrote:  

I think that you are all way overthinking this and looking for a deeper meaning when there is not one. It is just a girl posting something a bit funny on social media about like girls do.

So...you must be new here...

Quote: (08-15-2016 01:19 AM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

And the above is exactly why I think approaching in person is going to become a powerful niche in the next decade or so.

Most men are cowards who hate doing things that make them uncomfortable, and spamming thirsty messages at girl after girl online from the safety and relative anonymity of their smartphone is the safe and comfortable thing to do. Therefore, girls get so much male attention online that they don't even remember half of it. Who will they remember though? The one guy or one of the few guys who had the balls to approach them in person.

You don't have to wait ten years...

With the speed shifts occur you will notice this niche in 10 months. Go ask any girl that last time she was "courted" in person (with good game) it will take her a while to remember and more times than not she will tell you it was a success. So few men are approaching these days that many women (who are not social retards) will reward the man with his big balls and at least give him a shot at a date.

Engaging in person will become a lost craft and those who can excel at it will be rewarded greatly. With very young girls I notice how they react to genuine conversation. They will love to chat and talk and if you peak their interest they will be engaged. It is the 20-26 year olds who have no attention spans though, but there will be a shift soon enough.

^ When has in person game ever been anything other than the best way to go?

I love attention seeking sluts, fuck them like dirty whores with no respect and never call them back.

Quote: (08-14-2016 11:51 PM)Delta Wrote:  

Breaking News: Tinder is a big joke to most girls.

If I (men in general) had such a luxury, I would make an effort to hone in on the best candidates because that's what makes logical sense, but obviously girls don't think that way.

The desperate/thirsty/spammy behavior of men on Tinder makes it feel like something that should not be taken seriously, and girls act in accordance with that feeling.

Thus, they're content to allow scores of men way out of their league to slip though the cracks without giving a shit.

Very well said. If I too had such a luxury I would boil the selection process down to a science, use extensive planning, spreadsheets and so on, in order to most efficiently screen for the best candidates for as little energy as possible. But because women are generally passive and not responsible for moving the interaction forward, this can actually work to their detriment in the sense that they will still deny hundreds or thousands of men way out of their league because they just don't take it seriously. Every now and again they may agree to a date, a lot of times with a man who is just good at getting the girl off the internet and out of the house. Many other women just don't take it seriously at all and even having an Olympic standard body is not enough. A lot of women online are socially awkward and anxious, to the point that many of them would, when it came down to it, not go on a date with a verified Justin Bieber. If you talk about approaches made versus actual sex, online game in the west has the lowest average conversions of them all. You can spam 200 in an afternoon and get nothing. An average guy doing 200 day time approaches is a lot more likely to get something, although it's a lot harder work.

It just shows that women are not the flawless judges of male attractiveness we sometimes give them credit for. Whether online, in a bar, or on the street, they form opinions of every man from everything that she can see. Online, that (below average) girl could only see a picture and his two shitty messages. She is not psychic and did not know he was to be an Olympic gold medallist and famous for a few weeks. The moment she knew she regretted not responding. Of course she also posted it for attention. It's doubtful she could lock down a guy like that, especially with gold medal status now, so the next best thing is to broadcast "I rejected Olympic gold medallist OMG", bask in the attention and make herself feel a bit better because on some deep level she knows she is unattractive and basic.

Quote: (08-15-2016 11:51 AM)TheDuncan Wrote:  

I love attention seeking sluts, fuck them like dirty whores with no respect and never call them back.

Same here. I fucking love sluts. We just know they have no self control and don't deserve respect when banging

Quote: (08-14-2016 10:13 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

A great example in a nustshell why social media is such a complete disaster. Women thrive on attention. Being recognized socially as "someone" is literally the female lifeblood: because historically, without it women were completely helpless. A woman without any social connections - without a strong support system around her - was most likely completely destitute and not long for this world (this is why charity for widows was always emphasized). Thus women are designed with an innate proclivity to attention whore. Their very survival depends on being noticed and valued by other people.

Social media is harmful because it hijacks and amplifies this intrinsic need for attention. Rather than trying to gain the attention of the people in her immediate surroundings, women are now free to attention whore to the entire world. The corollary to this: she is also now competing in the attention sweepstakes with every other woman in the world! Thus begins an attention whoring arms race among women, resulting in an increasing thirst and desperation for attention and a constant trend of one-upsmanship.

This is how you end up with women like this - a complete nobody - desperately projecting the flimsiest rationale for attention to the world. "Look at me! I had a text exchange on a sex app with a guy who is currently appearing on TV and enjoying his 15 minutes of fame!" In her mind, this simple text exchange validates her existence as "somebody" in the modern world. She is not interested in being recognized by her family and community as a loving wife and mother, as a good neighbor, as a kind and cheerful friend. She is not interested in the accolades and social approbation earned by a life well-lived. She is not interested in establishing a good reputation in the eyes of those who have known her for years.

Instead, she bases her self-worth on the most fleeting attention possible - the passing glances of millions of anonymous eyeballs on social media platforms. And so when her chance finally arrives, she takes it. She, previously just another anonymous social media eyeball, is now, in this one fleeting moment, the star of the show. She basks in the glow of the attention, the pleasure she receives from knowing that so many people must now validate her existence: near-orgasmic. She is someone. In this case, she is just a girl that an Olympic gold medalist matched on Tinder. But that's enough for her. She'll take it. She'll broadcast it proudly to the world, because in the land of social media, the only currency that matters is attention.

What we're witnessing with social media is similar to the phenomenon of alpha widowing. Just as a woman who has previously given herself emotionally and physically to an alpha male can no longer be truly satisfied with a "lesser" man, so it is with attention. Women who have experienced the intoxicating hit of concentrated social approval and attention they can receive on social media are no longer interested in pursuing the more mundane social accolades they could receive by traditional means. Why bake your boyfriend a cake when you could take a selfie showing off your ass? The former only generates the attention and approval of one man, while the latter could generate it from thousands or millions (or more modestly for most women, a few dozen, which is still to be preferred in the female mind as far superior to one).

Traditionally pro-social female behavior has thus been abandoned in favor of social media attention whoring as the preferred method for women to gain and demonstrate social status.

The best post I have read on this forum.

Quote: (08-15-2016 12:03 PM)ChickenLover9T9 Wrote:  

It just shows that women are not the flawless judges of male attractiveness we sometimes give them credit for. Whether online, in a bar, or on the street, they form opinions of every man from everything that she can see. Online, that (below average) girl could only see a picture and his two shitty messages. She is not psychic and did not know he was to be an Olympic gold medallist and famous for a few weeks. The moment she knew she regretted not responding. Of course she also posted it for attention. It's doubtful she could lock down a guy like that, especially with gold medal status now, so the next best thing is to broadcast "I rejected Olympic gold medallist OMG", bask in the attention and make herself feel a bit better because on some deep level she knows she is unattractive and basic.

Really insightful. It's almost like a runaway process now. Think of it, all these paradoxes ... How many times have you told yourself "There's no way I would approach this girl in real life" with any hint or real meaning to try to get with her in any capacity. But yet I'm not sure that even 10% are aware of that, that for all intents and purposes, we all found out that overswiping (if not total right all day, all night) is easiest in a meaningless internet world.

Also, are they not aware that it's still a hookup type app and not a dating one, as they want it to be mostly?

For this reason I've come to the conclusion that SA has at least that understanding and draw --- namely that it's a true qualification in that if you actually select someone, you are in some way interested and both parties know the "it" and what it is --- while apps are girls trying to act like people want them for anything other than an easy lay (in general), or at least a try to capitalize in a hamster lapse in judgment.

It is a normal thing.

She looks like a fat doey 5. She rejects a cut olympian.

Fuck online dating.

The girl made a tongue in cheek comment half hoping it gets her a few retweets . I see the beta - herds of sheep - of a generation as the real problem here . People are so bored out of their fucking mind with very little creative aspirations that they need some new shit everyday to share , read , get trending . All the retweets and attention this bitch got I bet you not a single one came from someone with half a brain and a life ! These are the same lot that follows Keeping up with the Kardashians and are fangirling semi pros on TV . Their life's greatest achievement was sharing a tweet that they help get viral .

The fact that a average ugly bird like that ignores a fella like the 8 pack singaporean athlete is also down to the countries culture, his ethnicity and his poor gaming skills as pointed out by many already .

Time and place has a lot to do with it. If he was a black guy in London with the same physique on tinder he would have proper 9s begging him to come fuck them on a sunday morning . How do I know ? I have experimented on tinder with locations and photos of different ethnic guys to see what works and where . As someone who can pass as a latino , black, north african and east Indian I check the water out on tinder to see which angle to play in a particular country or city .

Having grown up in London it is a city where brothers get immense love and there's a ever increasing number of once you go black groupies in UK . It's like Newyork , where a girl moving from the suburbs or a Eastern European country (or Spain or any country without a significant amount of black population ) the first thing they do to get themselmves a "cosmopolitan girl" status is date a black guy .

Similarly almost every western country girls are reluctant towards dating Oriental men . Most girls I have met, known or dated and had a discussion on her dating preferences would straight give it to me "anyone but Japanese or chinese" by which they just mean oriental in a broader sense . I always wondered why this was the case . I can understand with Indian men it's often used to be a matter of style or grooming as a lot of Indian village or small town guys have very awkward dress sense and long hair and moustache and what not . However oriental men are traditionally trendy, hip and fashionable and girls love that right ?

After lots of frank honest discussions with an array of women I conclude it's because of the cliches built up . Straight hair , lanky physique and smaller cock (allegedly) portrays lack of masculinity to most women . White men love oriental girls because they are petite , feminine and with tight pussy (allegedly) . White women love black men because they are physical specimen , alpha and with big cocks (allegedly) .

Things are what they are and they are not going to get better anytime soon . We as individuals white, black, brown or yellow are always compensating and fighting the stereotypes . A guy like the Singaporean olympian would kill it in a Oriental country or latin america or even some parts of EU where girls are more open to exotic and are not feminist bitches who wants a mandingo to replace her sex toy .

Quote: (08-14-2016 07:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

'Sphere dudes like to say that all our problems started with women joining the workforce, but this is not so; in fact, the first couple of decades of women joining the workforce were a kind of paradise, an arrangement which made both sexes very content: women were able to have a place to go to every day where they could perform some simple tasks and gossip and socialize to their heart's content, and men were given the distraction of having women around them in jobs where they could be of some use and could introduce pleasant variety and light intrigue to their days.

The time when the arrangement started going bad came later -- not when feminism told women to take a job, but when it convinced them (and everyone else) that they need to "lean in" and become "fucking great scientists". There is really no need for all women to go back to tending to their families 24/7 (and modern technology makes such a conception obsolete in any case)

I agree with some of what you said, but the problem we have today is we live in a society where women don't need men. They can earn their own money which gives them the freedom they need and they don't have to be a manager or great scientist to accomplish this. Any 30k year job in a small city will give them that, and many jobs pay a lot more.

They can also have a kid(s) out of wedlock and get paid well for that too. Get divorced and get paid even better.

Our culture not only provides them with real financial freedom but actually incentivizes and celebrates women to live without men.

Go to a country where women depend on men/family for food and shelter and we see their relation to men is much, much different than it is here.

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:48 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

As for regular dudes in Singapore, the laws on female honour there are horrendous. Calling a woman a slut can get you a jail-term.

Safe to say the white knighting there in Singapore stemmed from its previous status as a British colony. No surprise here from me.

Back on topic, well-earned by Schooling.

As for that Tinderella, enjoy.

Quote: (08-14-2016 02:07 PM)Diogenes Wrote:  

"This is my greatest accomplishment."

MY greatest accomplishment. Am I missing something? What did she accomplish? He accomplished something, not her.

Men love to win, women love winners.

Once in a while, a thread is posted which just about says it all. This thread is one of them.

Imagine a man who is a 6 ignoring an Olympian on the beach volleyball team.

Quote: (08-14-2016 08:58 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

I've actually have heard this sort of thing from various women over the years.

Most commonly, they make a reference to some vague rich guy they dated.

"Oh, I dated this surgeon/guy with a boat/guy who owned a construction company/son of someone who owns a restaurant chain/Hollywood producer/son of a political figure"

It's always brought up in casual fashion but always said in a tone like I should be impress or give a shit. I don't care of course; I only care in the sense that she is obviously a dumbass to try to impress me with her past bang history.

For some of these chicks though, it quite obvious that banging a on-paper alpha was a big deal and a major point of pride for them.

I know chicks can turn into alpha-widows post-bang but I wonder if chicks like this tinder twat can be alpha-widows without the bang or even a date? Perhaps so.

Is because women tend to project themselves on men, they imagine men like in women what women like in men, women like high status men therefore they think by telling other men they fucked a very high status men you will find her more attractive, imagine you are sitting on a coffee shop with a girl and you star telling her about others girls with bigger tits and better ass than her you fucked in the past, it would not make sense to bring that up but is the same women do.

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:02 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

Imagine a man who is a 6 ignoring an Olympian on the beach volleyball team.

Thats how fucking messed up the smp is.



Is this for real? In what kind of fucked up smp are women like that ghosting athletes who are literally the BEST IN THE WORLD in their sport?

Here is the guy's actual girlfriend


At least he knows his level. Dude was just looking for something extra.

I'm just flabbergasted - what would it take for a guy to not get ghosted? Even though his game was poor, I'm astounded that even a chubster like her has such a narrow margin for error, it is like skating on a knife edge.