I know most members of this forum are against marriage, but let us assume that you do get married, how would you hide your money and assets so that you don't lose it during a divorce?

PS: I just thought of putting all my assets in a trust before marriage and after marriage buying all my assets using a company where I own 1% and my mother owns 99% (of course I would have 100% control).

Joint account is a no no!

Let me have your ideas please....

Laws vary from state to state, country to country. That trust thing wouldn't work where I am.

Why not avoid marriage altogether?

Thats like putting on a full body condom to have sex with a $5 hooker you met on skid row. The benefits just aren't there for you.

Liquidate your assets, and buy physical gold. Dig a hole and bury gold in same. Bam. You've just secured not only divorce rape protection but inflation protection as well. Nobody can prove you still have the money rather than having spent it on hookers and blow. And you're a fucking Pirate with a treasure map to boot.

Put all your earned money in the Cook Islands and all of your property in a family trust that excludes your wife (this is what the Bush family does, when Neil got a divorce his assets were protected). If a woman gives you children give her a life estate in the home she raises your children in. A prenuptial agreement is paramount regardless. As always my advice is do not marry, marriage is a binding contract with no real upside for you.

Quote: (06-12-2016 12:52 PM)Tayo Wrote:  

PS: I just thought of putting all my assets in a trust before marriage and after marriage buying all my assets using a company where I own 1% and my mother owns 99% (of course I would have 100% control).

How much are we talking?

Aloha!

Any suggestions on how to protect a pension?

Quote: (06-12-2016 05:35 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Any suggestions on how to protect a pension?

Do not enter into the institution of marriage. It is a hell of a contract to get out of.

Pension benefits accrued before marriage woild not be included as a family asset for division - only what was accrued during marriage .

I am not rich yet and I am not getting married yet... I just want to see if it is possible to get married and still not get screwed in a divorce...

Quote: (06-12-2016 05:24 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (06-12-2016 12:52 PM)Tayo Wrote:  

PS: I just thought of putting all my assets in a trust before marriage and after marriage buying all my assets using a company where I own 1% and my mother owns 99% (of course I would have 100% control).

How much are we talking?

Aloha!

Avoiding marriage is my current stance but as I have realized over the years, I may change my stance later on... this is why I am looking for a legal (and illegal) way to hide my money and assets in case of a divorce.

I always though George Clooney would never get married again but see what happened to him!

Quote: (06-12-2016 04:58 PM)not_dead_yet Wrote:  

Laws vary from state to state, country to country. That trust thing wouldn't work where I am.

Why not avoid marriage altogether?

the best protection there is is to never get married in the first place

AWALT

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Short answer, don't tell her you have it, don't let her see any bank statements for it, don't buy any shared assets using it.

Quote: (06-13-2016 07:08 AM)Tayo Wrote:  

I just want to see if it is possible to get married and still not get screwed in a divorce...

If you let your whole life and destiny in the hands of random luck, yes you have about 5% chances to get really lucky and not totally screwed in a divorce

Would you jump out of a plane if you knew that you have 5% chances that your parachute will open?

Quote: (06-12-2016 05:19 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

Liquidate your assets, and buy physical gold. Dig a hole and bury gold in same. Bam.

I think Eddie is right on this one. That gives you as good a chance as any, but it would be better to spread it over many holes in different locations to lower risk. Get an accurate GPS receiver, and bury it in remote locations. You'd have to consider things like:
- The odds that unpopulated area will one day become populated. It's always possible that somebody starts a logging/mining operation there in 10/20 years time, and construction or operations unearth it.
- The odds that the earth will move or become inaccessible (earthquakes, tree growth etc).
- If that area is susceptible to erosion due to wind, floods etc.

The advantage of this is that nobody knows about it but you. We still universally use passwords for security for the same reason. A GPS coordinate to a piece of gold in the middle of nowhere, that you memorize, is pretty close to a "wealth password".

Other than that, there is something called an international trust. This is like a trust, but offshore in a foreign jurisdiction, so the US court has no power to ignore the trust and seize the assets at its whim.

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As an aside, all this "easy just don't get married" stuff is so predictable and glib. Sure, sure, we're all such big ballers who are just going to reproduce freely like a stud. Very likely.

OP is, like many healthy minded men, recognizing of the fact that that is all bullshit. The best way to reproduce for 99% of the male population is to secure a firm relationship with an individual woman, which lasts at least 2 decades, and marriage is traditionally precisely that. Let's give the "never get married!" stuff a break and just answer the damn questions. He even said "I know you're all against it but, lets just assume I'm getting married", and you couldn't help yourselves.

Roosh usually says that he doesn't want any illegal activity discussed on this forum. The laws generally require you to reveal all of your assets, and can be very strict if you are found hiding them.

Obviously you would only want to marry for the purpose of having children and raising them in a traditional family structure. If this is your goal, then here is the best approach:

1. Find a legal environment with the most favorable laws. You are in Nigeria, so I don't know how the laws are there
2. Generally, you want a legal system that limits the wife to splitting assets gained after the marriage, and you want some kind of reasonable standards for child support and for joint custody. Finally, you want limited or zero alimony.
3. Once you've found the best set of laws you can get, your goal is to make your money before you get married, and document it fully so there's no question of your legal status regarding those assets. This money is yours permanently, since she can only split assets gained after the marriage.
4. Now the usual advice applies. Find a wife who was raised by a stable 2 parent family, and who was raised with religious values to be faithful and to be a wife and mother, not a career woman. As a husband, take care of and lead your wife and your family, and provide a good, comfortable life for them. Not too fancy, but with the comfort and security of a decent lifestyle. Make sure not to be too stern with the wife when you are playing your leadership role. You want to use playful dominance, so she enjoys following your leadership.
5. As the years go by, keep your assets in such a state that if she ever leaves, you can afford the child support, and will still be able to manage a decent lifestyle. You'll lose a lot, but you'll still have enough left to be OK. The goal is to minimize the risk of divorce by your choice of wife, and to minimize the financial downside if things still go bad.

None of this is easy, but if you have your eyes open from the start, it's definitely doable.

Use the money to buy Bitcoins, and store the private keys in an encrypted hard drive.

Quote: (06-13-2016 08:40 AM)seniol Wrote:  

the best protection there is is to never get married in the first place

AWALT

There are several threads discussing why marriage is ill-advised. You can post your options there. The OP 's assumption is that one is getting married. I would like to see where this thread goes on how to protect assets. Thanks for all those that have provided specific information on asset protection.

On this forum, plan A is "don't get married" BUT I am trying to get a plan B which is "if I get married, how do i keep my money and assets after the divorce"...

PS: plan A is like saying don't ever enter a building that is on fire, plan B is like asking "assuming a building is on fire and I want to go in and save my family member, what protective gear should I wear?"

You see the difference?

So, I need advice on how to do plan B successfully in case I chicken out and get married someday... guys just please help me out and keep the ideas coming...

please can you clarify what you mean by don't tell her you have it?

Are you referring to money/assets or a company where I own 1% and my mother owns 99%?

Quote: (06-13-2016 08:46 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

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Short answer, don't tell her you have it, don't let her see any bank statements for it, don't buy any shared assets using it.

This topic again?

Don't live in the USA. Find yourself a man friendly jurisdiction.

Otherwise, you're fucked if you live here, or make your money here. There's no place in America that doesn't have motivated lawyers who will hire forensic accountants.

And realistically, you think it's possible to make big money and keep it a secret from the woman that sleeps in your bed and bears your children?

WIA

Even though I have read a few ideas that I would research more on, but it seems I would keep getting the typical "don't get married" mantra so may be the moderators can close this thread.

Thanks guys.

hiding assets is illegal and a fraud on the court, so don't do it.

generally the law will allow you to keep pre-marital assets, but good documentation and a prenup help. of course, those assets might be considered later in terms of alimony.

a prenup can address marital assets but are not bulletproof.

Quote: (06-13-2016 01:35 PM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

Use the money to buy Bitcoins, and store the private keys in an encrypted hard drive.

Pretty straightforward.

Back them up to a dropbox account only you know the password to.

Quote: (03-05-2017 08:24 PM)qwertyuiop Wrote:  

Quote: (06-13-2016 01:35 PM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

Use the money to buy Bitcoins, and store the private keys in an encrypted hard drive.

Pretty straightforward.

Back them up to a dropbox account only you know the password to.

Dropbox has a copy of the keys to decrypt your data and will gladly turn them to the government on request - and they'll your private keys and hit you with a charge of hiding your assets. Unless, of course, you encrypt the container yourself THEN upload it to Dropbox.

Hiding your assets is illegal, but with Bitcoin, there's no way they can prove it, until you REALLY fuck up.

One thing I've learned: do not underestimate the willpower of a woman wanting to milk you.