Greeting All

I'm currently vacationing in Cebu city. This is my second trip here in the Philippines. Now, as any of you forum members who have been here before, you know as I do that the Korean girls are alot hotter then the Pilipinas. But, they seem like they are out of reach and unapproachable. In my two weeks I've been in the city, I've been dating a local philipina model and mixing in a couple locals girls here and there. But, me being the player that I am, I'm always looking for more. So, I spent the last two days day gaming only Korean girls in I.T park and Ayala mall.

About me:
White american
Early fourties but look early to mid thirties
6'1" 170 lbs.
Average looking guy

I decided that I was going to put 100% of my time and effort into getting my Korean flag. Made a daily log book of all my approaches. I ever recorded my approaches on my phone to get a better understanding of my successes and failures. Spent the first day going indirect. Playing the lost tourist and nice guy game. Second day was spent going with direct game. Asking for directions, then going direct with guns blazing.

In two days I approached 38 woman. All during daytime hours. As daygame is my bread and butter. 29 woman in I.T park. And 9 woman in Ayala mall.

My results.
I got blown out of the water on 97 % of my approaches. I'll be honest with you guys, it was brutal. I approached women in groups, women shopping solo and women with a man with them.

All the women in I.T park were in a hurry and didn't want to be bothered or their English ability wasn't that great. If she had a man with her. I would open her asking for directions. Stare the man down and then ask for her number. All the men didn't even try to cock block me in anyway. But, the women would usually just stare at the ground. Very, very shy. If it was a group of women together, it was just as bad. Most times they would just giggle and walk away.

My best results were to find the women at the mall in a group of two. Approach the one I liked, act like I live here and make comments about attending investment conferences and things of that nature. I recieved three phone numbers. But, no dates.

Final thoughts:
In my opinion these women are so shy and timid it's almost impossible to game them. Being seen with an American man is considered taboo. I think almost all of these women ages 18-23 are virgins. But, thats just my opinion. I even tried to get a picture for you guys of the average 7-8 Korean girl in Cebu. But, they were to shy and just walk away.

My apologies if I jumped around or bad grammer. Haven't slept well since my arrival.

Interesting report. You did well to approach so fearlessly, and to post even with the negative results. But I highly doubt that a lot of attractive Koreans in their early 20s are virgins.

How about these factors:
* uninterested in Western guys
* partners are with them on holiday
* highly self-conscious about being seen by other Koreans with a foreigner
* little ability or desire to speak English
* mainly interested in stereotypically handsome Korean/Asian men
* some problem with your game, or simply anything short of the high level needed for these hard targets.

I'm curious, how many of these pale NE Asian beauties in Cebu turn out to be Japanese or Chinese?

Were you still banging pinays on the side?

Virgins? Hahahahahaha! Korea is a very homogeneous society and girls usually don't like to date foreign guys. It's total opposite of Philippines. Sure, you can go to Itaewon and Hongdae in Korea and get the " groupies " but its the type of girls that have been around the block a lot. For the most part Korean girls are NOT worth the effort involved. They act like 10 year old girls and these girls have had their asses kissed their entire lives. They get spoiled from their mother, get spoiled from other men, and probably have never had a real thought of their own. Korean media puts forth the idea that foreigners are disease ridden and just want sex. I am not exaggerating about this, the news articles really encourage xenophobic behavior. Your approach is entirely way too strong. That would maybe work in Itaewon at 3 am, but I don't see it working in the daytime on Korean girls.

Apparently you have to be very discreet to get these girls out on a date. My approach would be a different one:

1) Find them online (Instagram, Facebook) or alone during the day
2) Try to get them to meet you somewhere where they won't be seen by friends or colleagues. This is the tricky part. You might want to invite them straight to your apartment.

If you run the numbers game this way you might find one girl who is down to fuck a foreigner.

@ Stay

Yeah, I've been dating a local model. When she's at work during the day I get kinda bored and go out daygaming or whatever. Plus, go on dates with filipinas.

On this trip I tried experimenting with date in asia online dating site. Absolutely a huge waste of time. Went on 6 dates and they were all really bad.

@ Rawgod

It's difficult for me to tell the difference between Korean, Chinese and Japanese.

I have never struggled that bad in my life. I realize I'm not the best looking guy in the world but, damn.

To all the other responses about my virgin comment. It sounds like you guys have more experience with the Korean girls then myself. Guess I should cross off South Korea as one of the countries I'd like to visit. Lol..

I got my Korean flag in Ho Chi Minh a few weeks ago. Found her late in the night at a rather sleazy night club. We went for food in the middle of the night and her Korean girlfriends almost saw her. She was about to panic. During LMR she said something like "I'm Korean, I can't do this." She had a Japanese flag but I'm pretty sure I was her first white guy. I wonder how Korea turned so racist. Any ideas?

Quote: (04-26-2016 10:52 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

@ Rawgod

It's difficult for me to tell the difference between Korean, Chinese and Japanese.

I have never struggled that bad in my life. I realize I'm not the best looking guy in the world but, damn.

To all the other responses about my virgin comment. It sounds like you guys have more experience with the Korean girls then myself. Guess I should cross off South Korea as one of the countries I'd like to visit. Lol..

If you say that Korean girls are sexier than Filipinas then why give up so easily?
Here what I would do. Learn a bit of Korean, just basics to maintain first minute of conversation. It will probably take you a week.
This will separate you from majority of other white guys, and will be a great boost of your daygame.
If you can spot Korean girl in a mall in Cebu and approach her in Korean language, I think it can penetrate the invisible barrier.
If it will not help go to South Korea and try daygaming there.
If this is still not working... Well then North Korea is waiting for you.

Quote: (04-26-2016 01:49 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  

I got my Korean flag in Ho Chi Minh a few weeks ago. Found her late in the night at a rather sleazy night club. We went for food in the middle of the night and her Korean girlfriends almost saw her. She was about to panic. During LMR she said something like "I'm Korean, I can't do this." She had a Japanese flag but I'm pretty sure I was her first white guy. I wonder how Korea turned so racist. Any ideas?

A number of factors:

(1) An intense persecution complex that has made them overly self-conscious and defensive when it comes to their presumed standing in the world and especially with China and Japan.

(2) A village mentality because the country is so small and everyone is related to each other to some degree.

(3) An extremely competitive culture with people who seem to enjoy heaping massive amounts of shame on one of their members who doesn't toe the line.

(4) A princess complex with the women, similar to what occurs with East Indian women, because of how they get treated while growing up.

(5) A strong negative stigma towards dating foreigners because of the association with poor Korean women whoring themselves out to American servicemen in the past.

I think that's about it.

This is probably question better suited for the actual South Korean thread.
I have heard the thing about foreigners having diseases and being horrible.

Can someone post actual articles where the media, tv or online news outlets are saying this?

Quote: (04-26-2016 06:50 AM)Doodle23 Wrote:  

Virgins? Hahahahahaha! Korea is a very homogeneous society and girls usually don't like to date foreign guys. It's total opposite of Philippines. Sure, you can go to Itaewon and Hongdae in Korea and get the " groupies " but its the type of girls that have been around the block a lot. For the most part Korean girls are NOT worth the effort involved. They act like 10 year old girls and these girls have had their asses kissed their entire lives. They get spoiled from their mother, get spoiled from other men, and probably have never had a real thought of their own. Korean media puts forth the idea that foreigners are disease ridden and just want sex. I am not exaggerating about this, the news articles really encourage xenophobic behavior. Your approach is entirely way too strong. That would maybe work in Itaewon at 3 am, but I don't see it working in the daytime on Korean girls.

Racism is a thing but I can assure you there are plenty of quality korean girls who *would* hook up with a cool, desirable foreigner under the right circumstance.

However. With your approach here in Cebu...

You've gotta be aware of your positioning. What category you're slotting yourself into in their mind.

It's most likely "social outcast sexpat foreigner" (not that that's you at all - but it's likely their perception).

Older white guy cold approaching in phils is just not gonna play well with that crowd. A lot of downside and no upside in their mind. Especially if you're showing disregard for asian face/discretion by going direct in front of the guy they're with. The guys aren't even responding, because they see you've blown yourself out.

It can be done there... but you have to take a totally different angle. Need to immediately signal that you're a) cool/together/high status, b) discrete and aware of asian face, and c) clearly NOT a sexpat.

One approach with koreans in phils is social circle. Making friends with guys somehow, drinking with them, facebook friending everyone. If you're a high-status dude then they'll be "honored" to bring you out drinking in a mixed group. I've met and partied with random korean guys in asia and we've pulled chicks together. I've also got in with korean social circles outside korea, and then you have access (discretely) to the girls. Social proof, pre-approval + ultimate discretion is key.

Hell even just being with a trendy asian guy will give you a leg up and distance you from the "sexpat" vibe. Maybe you can find a chinese-philipino wing haha.

Why don't you discreetly slip them a paper with your phone number on it? Similar to Philippines mall game... this way, they won't be seen giving their number to a "bad" foreigner.

But do it right, covertly slipping your paper into their hand, not clumsily like Ted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-pwGx4vv2g

Quote: (04-26-2016 05:14 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

Greeting All

Stare the man down and then ask for her number. All the men didn't even try to cock block me in anyway. But, the women would usually just stare at the ground. Very, very shy. If it was a group of women together, it was just as bad. Most times they would just giggle and walk away.

The above is surprising as I have heard that Korean men can be rather alpha.

Quote: (04-26-2016 05:18 PM)rhodey Wrote:  

Quote: (04-26-2016 05:14 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

Greeting All

Stare the man down and then ask for her number. All the men didn't even try to cock block me in anyway. But, the women would usually just stare at the ground. Very, very shy. If it was a group of women together, it was just as bad. Most times they would just giggle and walk away.

The above is surprising as I have heard that Korean men can be rather alpha.

They can be, but it's asian alpha. Which means not even trying when someone rolls up and immediately shoots themself in the foot. They know their chicks wouldn't dare give anything up to such an approach. In their eyes, the foreigner is like a crazy homeless person when he approaches a mixed group or couple like this.

After reading your responses and looking back at my approaches, I can see alot of you guys have valid points.

My value here is very low in the eyes of the Korean girls. They look down on philipinas and any man who dates a philipina.

Handing out pieces of paper with my name and number is something I should have done. I have done this in the past with philipinas at the mall. But, honesty it is to easy. (I will explain)

I've been having a great time here in the phils. But, Russia is a place that really interests me. I plan on visiting a 2nd tier city in late summer or early fall for a month. I knew I was going to struggle gaming Korean girls here. Just like I'm going to struggle badly in Russia. Gaming philipinas is fun but, I'm not really learning anything. And, gaming women in America. I just do not have anything left for them. If I see an attractive woman in America at the mall. I just can't do it anymore.

I dated a few Korean-american girls (in L.A.) and really there's a lot of cultural cockblocking that goes on even there. Koreans have a thing called "the Han" which i'll just let people here look it up and read up about themselves.

There's also a lot of innate anger and frustration with Koreans even against other asians. They have a feeling they were constantly short shrifted in history so now that things are on a upward trajectory they are out to make sure people know that.

That's why they have become this super nationalistic and insular people in some ways. I get what their thought process is. This isn't criticism towards them because I understand it too. It's just a phase in their national and ethnic identity cycle.

Quote: (04-26-2016 10:52 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

@ Rawgod

It's difficult for me to tell the difference between Korean, Chinese and Japanese.

I have never struggled that bad in my life. I realize I'm not the best looking guy in the world but, damn.

To all the other responses about my virgin comment. It sounds like you guys have more experience with the Korean girls then myself. Guess I should cross off South Korea as one of the countries I'd like to visit. Lol..

Koreans usually have round pie faces augmented by plastic surgery and longer legs. White skin is a common feature. Most girls want to emulate pop stars so there's a weird clone like homogeneity in looks.


Chinese vary but if they are from the south of China then they are short and darker but not quite as dark as SEA but with more angular faces. The southern Chinese dialects sounds like they are having arguments. Hard to categorize Chinese really. You will find Chinese (in many different countries) who span the entire spectrum of looks from NE Asia to SE Asia. For me one big indicator is skin though even hot Chinese girls (with the exception of Taiwanese) usually have more blemishes than Korean or Japanese girls.

Japanese tend to be bow legged with shorter legs but with great faces and sometimes fucked up teeth. Braces is not super popular there like it is elsewhere in asia. Fashion sense is high and the skin tone is porcelain most of the time.

Quote: (04-26-2016 03:46 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

This is probably question better suited for the actual South Korean thread.
I have heard the thing about foreigners having diseases and being horrible.

Can someone post actual articles where the media, tv or online news outlets are saying this?

Quote: (04-26-2016 06:50 AM)Doodle23 Wrote:  

Virgins? Hahahahahaha! Korea is a very homogeneous society and girls usually don't like to date foreign guys. It's total opposite of Philippines. Sure, you can go to Itaewon and Hongdae in Korea and get the " groupies " but its the type of girls that have been around the block a lot. For the most part Korean girls are NOT worth the effort involved. They act like 10 year old girls and these girls have had their asses kissed their entire lives. They get spoiled from their mother, get spoiled from other men, and probably have never had a real thought of their own. Korean media puts forth the idea that foreigners are disease ridden and just want sex. I am not exaggerating about this, the news articles really encourage xenophobic behavior. Your approach is entirely way too strong. That would maybe work in Itaewon at 3 am, but I don't see it working in the daytime on Korean girls.

This is a blog with English translations of a lot of these sorts of xenophobic news stories in the Korean media: http://populargusts.blogspot.kr/


To the OP, I would echo RichieP's advice - get in with a group of Koreans and become seen as a high value man within that group. Once you get close enough that they invite you out drinking, you're golden. A night out drinking is when it is socially acceptable to let loose and somewhat ignore social constraints in Korea, as well as being a big part of socializing here. Learning some simple phrases in Korean is good advice too - Koreans love to hear non-Koreans speaking their language or at least making an effort.

Quote: (04-26-2016 05:14 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

I got blown out of the water on 97 % of my approaches. I'll be honest with you guys, it was brutal...

Schlep, you get my respect for being open about failing whilst posting in a constructive way.



Now, when you say "daygame is my bread and butter", what do you mean by this? Where else have you done it and what were the results? How many lays and relationships have you fostered via daygame?

If you consider the steadily increasing mass of Koreans in the Philippines (26% of all visitor arrivals in Jan-Feb 2016*), plus their high level of attractiveness compared to other Asians, an increased interest in this niche market can be expected to continue.

Whilst I generally look to foster positive encouragement and focus on the 'wins', I think that it is nonetheless important to sometimes provide a counter-balance to the tendency of pickup forums to be flooded with vague self-reported stories of legendary game. So, as some key points have already been made regarding such game caveats, I would emphasize my support for the posts from RichieP above and GeneralMacDaddy in 'The Philippines Thread' (snippets below) --

Quote: (04-24-2016 06:25 AM)GeneralMacDaddy Wrote:  

...I think the general consensus here is that bagging a Korean in the Phils varies between nearly impossible at worst, and difficult at best...

Quote: (04-26-2016 04:55 PM)RichieP Wrote:  

...It can be done there... but you have to take a totally different angle. Need to immediately signal that you're a) cool/together/high status, b) discrete and aware of asian face, and c) clearly NOT a sexpat....

RichieP, that is a solid post. I agree with you 100%.

Whilst it seems reasonable to expect that, among other factors, social proof is key for banging Korean girls in the Philippines, if you were Schlep then how would you go about developing this within the course of a few weeks' holiday?


*Reference: Philippines Tourism Statistics - LINK.

That quote from RichieP is applicable to every high value Asian girl that isn't on Tinder or any other datingsite and doesn't frequent foreigner clubs like J Ave in Cebu or Levels in Bangkok for example.

The main difference between Filipinas and Koreans is that there are thousands of low value, easy to bed Filipinas but only very few Koreans of that kind. Try to bed a high value Filipina from a wealthy background and it will also be difficult for the same reasons.

@ Artiste

Day game is my bread and butter. I don't do well at night/ club game. Gaming in a loud club isn't my idea of fun. Online game is hit or miss. my results are average.

I'm in my early fourties and daygame in the states. I approach women in the 28-35 range. I have a fair amount of success as I look younger then my age and dress well. Also, daygame in Bogota Colombia and the Philippines.

I think your best bet would be to find a friendly Korean player in Cebu and ask him what the deal is. I don't know Cebu specifics.

For now, I am pretty qualified to help you since I'm actually Korean (Korean-American but I doubt any Korean-Koreans let alone Koreans living in Philippines are gonna sign on here) and actually bang Korean girls (check South Korea thread for some stories and pics).

My advice specific to your situation:

1. Consider working on your looks and style if they aren't top notch. Looks are important but even more so in Korea

"Early forties but look early to mid thirties"
- If you're gaming younger girls I can see this being an issue. But hard to tell without a pic. If Korean girls say you look old, hop on some Korean cosmetics no homo or PM me and I can try and help (complimented on my skin regularly. Downside being I also look like I'm in high school)

"Average looking guy"
- I'm sure you know that Koreans (guys and girls) are the hottest in Asia right now. Doesn't sound like you are fat at 6'1" and 170 lbs but not sure what your style is like. Koreans dress very well and you should, too. If you have American t-shirt + cargo pants style that is definitely not good. Generally speaking, slim and fashionable is the desired look for men



Edgy/street style (my preferred style)

Check this out for more examples (edgy/street, hip-hop, preppy casual, semi-formal/business seem to be the dominant styles - maybe one of those suits you):
https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?r...mplete%7C1

2. Consider nightgame
- I don't daygame in general but all but 1 of my Korean bangs are from nightgame (the exception is business-related Instagram game so not even daygame). The few times I tried daygame, girls mostly had the "why the fuck are you talking to me" type of look - even despite the fact that I speak Korean pretty well and look good and have good game. In recent memory (I have bad memory), I gamed a girl on a bus and got her out on a date (but the bus was also empty... and she wasn't that hot in terms of the ideal Korean look so probably less in demand). Talking to strangers is very out of the ordinary in Korean culture. As with anything, I'm sure it can work but your chances are probably low. I guess you're not looking for "girlfriend material" since you're on vacation. Just go out where the Koreans are and find the girls that are drinking. Girls who don't drink are always a red flag but in my experience, it's a super red flag in Korea.

3. Find the language students
"Koreans make up the vast majority of foreign students in Cebu; they are far and away the largest group of special study permit holders there, holding 4,473 of the outstanding 5,065 permits in mid 2010"
- A lot of Koreans go to the Philippines to study English (it looks good on your resume, especially if you want to work for a multinational company) because it is cheaper than places like the U.S. and Canada. You want to target these types of chicks vs. the Korean expat community. These girls will be more prone to slooting it up since they're only there temporarily. My advice would be to find some sort of meetups related to languages, partying, or get in with someone at one of the language school and find where the party's at

4. Game Korean girls BY THEMSELVES whenever possible
- Koreans care A LOT about what others think of them. Approaching girls that are with other people during the day sounds like a terrible idea to me unless your game is super tight

5. Don't do this
- "Why don't you discreetly slip them a paper with your phone number on it? Similar to Philippines mall game... this way, they won't be seen giving their number to a "bad" foreigner."
- If that actually works and you have proof, I'll Paypal you $20. Koreans aren't just gonna jump on your dick because you're white unless you're a male model, in which case this thread wouldn't even exist

6. Bonus: Learn a little Korean
- Koreans are very proud of their language and culture. Learning some Korean can show you have a genuine interest in Korea vs. just some dude who has yellow fever





If you could learn that phrase "그렇지말입니다" - "Sure, of course" - girls would eat that shit up. It's a military way of speaking that has become popular thanks to the popular Korean drama, Descendants of the Sun (just ended but was hugely popular).

PM me if you want a link to watch online

Something I'm going through right now to brush up on Korean basics (this is a government site directed towards foreigners wanting to learn Korean):
http://www.kosnet.go.kr/kosnet/main/kosn...Main010.do

Random Korea info:

"For the most part Korean girls are NOT worth the effort involved. They act like 10 year old girls and these girls have had their asses kissed their entire lives."
- I'd say that's true. Unless you have a strong interest in the girls, I don't see the point. It's way easier to get laid in other Asian countries. I just stepped off the plane in Bangkok and felt like a mini-celebrity because of the attention I was getting (but I'm also Korean which I feel is even more of an advantage than being white).
- Most Koreans are also pretty bad in bed, which I believe is just an extension of the general uptightness/formality of the culture - very hard for Koreans to let loose unless they're shitfaced (though I guess that's true in a lot of places).
- I'm not interested in relationships but I'd imagine a relationship with a Korean would be annoying considering the strong, cheesy (to me) couple culture (matching outfits, celebrating every little "anniversary" like not even by years but by months and days and shit), endless texting, etc.

"I wonder how Korea turned so racist. Any ideas?"
- I think xenophobic is a better word than racist. When I think racist I think KKK white on black crime, neo-Nazis, etc. There aren't too many hatefully racist people here. Just xenophobic in the sense that we would rather keep to our own and if you want to call it racism, it is more condescending than hateful. Japan being an exception. For example, thinking that Southeast Asians, Chinese are beneath us. (Which is funny since Korea was basically a Chinese satellite state for most of its history and thought of China as the center of the world). The only people most Koreans hate are the Japanese but more Japan the country vs. individuals (I've heard a lot of young people say in a surprising tone, "But when you meet an individual Japanese person, they can actually be friendly!") Normally, young people around the world are the "friendliest" "most liberal" but the majority of Korean youth hate Japan (reasonable but also reinforced in school, family, media, etc)
- To give you a brief background, Korea has been fucked over by foreigners forever. Mongol, Japanese, Manchu, and other invasions; forceful opening of the country by Western powers/Japan; Chinese/Japanese power struggle leading to Sino-Japanese War; Russian/Japanese power struggle leading to Russo-Japanese War; Japanese colonization (like literally trying to turn Korea into a Japanese province - forbidding Korean language use in schools and such, using Korean women as sex slaves, etc. According to a 94 year old relative of mine, you didn't get any food rations if you couldn't speak Japanese), USA/Soviet Union power struggle leading to Korean War and subsequent arbitrary political division into North/South Korea (Korea is one country, there is no difference between North Koreans and South Koreans other than the governments).
- Korea is highly homogenous like 99% Korean. Naturally, people are just used to Koreans and the Korean way. Even though there are around 2 million foreigners in Korea these days, a lot of these (like I think a third or half) are just Korean-Chinese, Korean-Americans, Korean-Canadians, and other overseas Koreans. The relative newness of most Koreans to international exposure and Korea to the global stage (going from poorer than Africa to top 15 economy in 50 years can be pretty jarring. Also, it wasn't until the 90s or so that Korea could have been considered somewhat of a rich country - most Koreans point to the 1988 Seoul Olympics as the turning point.) means that there will have to be a period of adjusting
- As with anywhere, the media blows up anything. E.g. stupid American soldiers raping girls and painting all Americans in a bad light, Americans getting drunk and causing trouble, etc. So your average Korean without any international experience might just think of most foreigners (like from the West) as uncouth barbarians.
- I never went through the school system here but even growing up in America, I was told things from an early age like Chinese are dirty, Japanese are clean (but they fucked us over via colonization so fuck them), blacks are more or less monkeys (but the ones from Africa vs. African-Americans are "surprisingly" hardworking), Indians wipe their ass with their finger and use a post-it note to wipe it after, etc. Despite all this, I did not think my parents were even that bad or as bad as your stereotypical "Asian parent" in terms of conservativeness/strictness/craziness (both were educated abroad and more cosmopolitan than most of my friends' parents).
- More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_South_Korea
- Some quotes: "Biracial men were banned from serving in the South Korean military until January 2011, being biracial classified as a disability."
- "In November 2014, Sean Jones, a black Oklahoman man, was on his way for a job interview in Seoul and received a text message that reads "Hey Sean. Sorry they just told me they actually want a white teacher."
- "In August 2014, the JR Pub, a bar in Seoul's Itaewon neighborhood, put up a sign that read "We apologize But, Due to Ebola Virus we are not accepting Africans at the moment. –JR Pub." The owner said he was ignorant about Ebola but wanted to address concerns of customers, who were worried about coming to Itaewon over fears of the Ebola virus" - haha I've been to this place before
- "In July 2009, Bonojit Hussein, an Indian citizen who was working as a research professor at Sungkonghoe University, was called "dirty" and "pitch-black foreigner" by a person named Park while riding on a bus. Park also questioned Hussein's companion, a South Korean woman, whether "she was a real Korean woman" and "how it felt going out with pitch-black foreigner?"
- Google "why are Koreans racist" for more info.

"(2) A village mentality because the country is so small and everyone is related to each other to some degree."
- Not true. In the Korean-American community, there was much more of a "everyone knows everyone feeling." There are 50 million people in South Korea, 25 in the North; 75 million total. I don't know 75 million people

"Korean media puts forth the idea that foreigners are disease ridden and just want sex. I am not exaggerating about this, the news articles really encourage xenophobic behavior."
"Can someone post actual articles where the media, tv or online news outlets are saying this?"




^ Not sure how prevalent that kind of media coverage is as I don't watch the news.

If anyone wants to know more about Korea PM me and I'll try to help

The lack of game here makes me cringe.
This is Lena Dunham level of entitlement

WIA

Quote: (04-27-2016 11:23 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

The lack of game here makes me cringe.
This is Lena Dunham level of entitlement

WIA

Gotta agree with WIA here.

OP you really need to operate outside the box or go the immersion route.

Outside the box game is just that. Using solid gaming principles to break ice, maintain their interest, pass shit tests and LMR without any Korean language skills, music, or Korean dude outfits. You will have to have a fluidity in how you approach. Oh excuse me, ..... instead of Hi my name is xxxx. Hey do you know where..... Have better setups (Post up at places they stay, but have a table ready or other props to assist.) For God's sake, please start collecting good K-Pop music, bluetooth connected so you could turn on the Pillbox/mini speaker from your phone without having to interrupt conversation with the ladies you bring over, AFTER you find out if she even likes something you have downloaded. If you have a thing for Korean women, you kinda need to keep up with shit they like to an extent, even if you are doing things outside the box.

Lots of trial and error even if you have Archie's level of skill because like others pointed out, herd mentality is perhaps the highest with Koreans compared to other Asians.

Immersion game is basically the game I ran in China with Chinese. Speak the language, learn the culture, history, geography, the movies, the music, the style of jokes/humor, read their news, create your own Korean-style negs in Korean (a little bit outside the box, but roll with me), know your way around Korea and can prove it a conversation.

You are in the PI, known for pussy laying around everywhere. Sexpat stench is decadent. Girls aren't hardened but they are not stupid either. Throw off the stench before the shit test can even manifest. "Oh, I just got here from Busan myself last week, I live off xxxx street there (lie). I need to find some good <insert Korean food>, have you or your friends found any yet around here?" See if you can get a Korean newspaper. I don't know why, but Korean men love their fucking newspapers. Roll it up in your armpit. Women are visual creatures.

Identify your targets and understand where they may be coming from before you approach. If you see a Korean chick with a heavier hiphop (K-Style) look to her as opposed to a K-Drama wanna be ultra-tender looking one, you better make adjustments before you step up to her. Bands of schoolgirls in uniforms can be a mixed box, see if you can glean info before they get skittish and bolt.

While in principle cleaning up your style to match theirs sounds great in theory, but you are still an older man. I cannot rock a style like a Korean dude mostly because my muscles and shoulders are too damn big and it looks goofy. I gave that strategy up in China quickly. Instead I found that wearing my Alma Mater's shirts and hats was better there instead of trying to look like whatever younger Chinese dudes look like. Some girls love talking about colleges and etc., especially the egg headed types that speak awesome English.

Maybe you wanna run a customized form of big baller game and look like a Hugh Hefner or something. Patek like watches, boat shoes, cigars, rent a boat, etc. Whatever you decide or try, have the confidence to pull it off.

Dip your toe before you jump in. Use all forms of game to build experience and rapport. Don't use daygame 100%. Pull a chick online and pipeline her friends. This goes back to Outside the Box. Pull 5s and work your way up until you can pull chicks like a Ford 450 Truck pulling a small stump.

Ultimately all of us have to use customized game options in order to get something to work out for us long term. Very few can borrow Archie, Chino's, WhiteknightRises, Vinny, Sourcecode, or etc. techniques. Borrow what you can use and blend it with more. The Game Mindsets they have is more important, than the actual techniques. Swagger tricks more women than they would like to admit. If you are getting LMR, that means you did some things right, just need to learn how to properly close that type of chick better with the right kinds of escalation.

Some of us can get Korean girls to stare at us with hungry eyes just by walking by. Some of us can intrigue them for hours and make them forget about the world around them. Most are somewhere in between. Figure out what works for you, but you need to experiment and use all the tools in the Game Tool Chest before deciding from the jump that you are only a daygamer using the tactics you use. Switch up stuff to keep the vibe fresh, fun, and non-thirsty.

Keep at it though. There are a few dudes here that pull other kinds of women pretty easily in the PI. Eventually you may find a solid way to pull em and you can drop a proper datasheet for the older and younger cats here alike.

Quote: (04-27-2016 11:01 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  

Not to derail, but SEA languages seem so fucking difficult to learn. Even moreso than slavic languages. True, or the same but different?