As most of you know I was just in the DR. My experience there reminded me of a better times here when I was in my early teens walking around the mall meeting groups of girls and just hanging out. Enough cash for a slice of pizza and a soda and some quarters to play video games was all it took to have a good time.

Returning to this is hard for me. I can't even glance at my dating sites and after looking at the bullshit texts from the girls I was hanging with before I left hating on me I told them all pretty much that they are useless to me.

I know that I wasn't gone long but I spent time with multiple groups of girls and even though most were poor they were happy and having fun.

How do you reframe here?

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:04 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

As most of you know I was just in the DR. My experience there reminded me of a better times here when I was in my early teens walking around the mall meeting groups of girls and just hanging out. Enough cash for a slice of pizza and a soda and some quarters to play video games was all it took to have a good time.

Returning to this is hard for me. I can't even glance at my dating sites and after looking at the bullshit texts from the girls I was hanging with before I left hating on me I told them all pretty much that they are useless to me.

I know that I wasn't gone long but I spent time with multiple groups of girls and even though most were poor they were happy and having fun.

How do you reframe here?

I had the same feeling. I could never be the same in Toronto after meeting gorgeous women, very friendly, easy going people and then coming back to overweight lizards with attitude.

I think you just have to cherish those moments..feast on them while you are there like an anaconda and digest that meal for your next visit.

I spoke with a few Hispanic friends here who LOVE DR. They have the edge because they are fluent in Spanish and they always hit up latin countries and go straight for the casas. No resort bullshyt.
They were waxing lizards left and right and they came back..went out downtown and met up with lizards who had the attitude to boot.
One cat yells out to a snobbish reptile.."I can get girls twice as hot as you!"
I don't blame him for that.
There is no way to ease the pain..maybe hang out with more FOBs or set up a business that gives you an excuse to go there more often.
Is that your first Latin country that you have visited, el mechanico?

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:17 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:04 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

As most of you know I was just in the DR. My experience there reminded me of a better times here when I was in my early teens walking around the mall meeting groups of girls and just hanging out. Enough cash for a slice of pizza and a soda and some quarters to play video games was all it took to have a good time.

Returning to this is hard for me. I can't even glance at my dating sites and after looking at the bullshit texts from the girls I was hanging with before I left hating on me I told them all pretty much that they are useless to me.

I know that I wasn't gone long but I spent time with multiple groups of girls and even though most were poor they were happy and having fun.

How do you reframe here?

I had the same feeling. I could never be the same in Toronto after meeting gorgeous women, very friendly, easy going people and then coming back to overweight lizards with attitude.

I think you just have to cherish those moments..feast on them while you are there like an anaconda and digest that meal for your next visit.

I spoke with a few Hispanic friends here who LOVE DR. They have the edge because they are fluent in Spanish and they always hit up latin countries and go straight for the casas. No resort bullshyt.
They were waxing lizards left and right and they came back..went out downtown and met up with lizards who had the attitude to boot.
One cat yells out to a snobbish reptile.."I can get girls twice as hot as you!"
I don't blame him for that.
There is no way to ease the pain..maybe hang out with more FOBs or set up a business that gives you an excuse to go there more often.
Is that your first Latin country that you have visited, el mechanico?

No, I spent a lot of time in Mexico a long time ago. It's not quite the same but still way better.

It's the attitude that kills me. It seems the women here thrive on being pissed and the others thrive on being happy. Not just that they are outclassed by looks and body.

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:25 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

No, I spent a lot of time in Mexico a long time ago. It's not quite the same but still way better.

It's the attitude that kills me. It seems the women here thrive on being pissed and the others thrive on being happy. Not just that they are outclassed by looks and body.

++1 to that statement.

It's so sad, really. Women in American have the best standard of living in the world, and yet are completely miserable.

Quote: (11-30-2011 02:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

It's so sad, really. Women in American have the best standard of living in the world, and yet are completely miserable.

The thing is, people have forgotten about the Maslov pyramid. In order to be competitive in the old days, people went into overdrive, forgoing basic human needs but the thing is, we are still humans at the end of the day and apart from the basic needs, that's it.
I know millionaires that don't give a shyt about money as long as their basic human needs are met. Shyt like stocks, multiple properties, flash whips mean jack without someone who genuinely cares about you to share that (and I don't mean just lizards cos bros go before hos).

Die a slow death, obviously.

If you got to make money, you gotta cope. If you're rich or fearless like some of the other cats on this board, you leave permanently.

Women in the US are unhappy so they are pissed. They were sold a bill of goods (feminism) that was going to make their lives awesome, but instead it made them like men. They do not like that feeling, but they are not sure what is causing it, so they take it out on us. Women in these "simpler" countries appear to be much more in touch with being feminine women. Hence, they are happier, despite having much less materially.

Quote: (11-30-2011 02:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

It's so sad, really. Women in American have the best standard of living in the world, and yet are completely miserable.

i'll never understand that. at least they're good fucks when they're angry, depressed bitches

Quote: (11-30-2011 08:35 PM)houston Wrote:  

Quote: (11-30-2011 02:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

It's so sad, really. Women in American have the best standard of living in the world, and yet are completely miserable.

i'll never understand that. at least they're good fucks when they're angry, depressed bitches

I wouldn't call them good fucks. Most of them are just average.

This will be a long post, but being in my mid 30's now might provide some insight. I travelled on the company dime since my early 20's and it was just at the time when the former USSR was coming to terms with its demise, globalisation was ramping up and feminism had really hit its tipping point in the west.

I have never had a hard time of it with women, was quite popular in high school and that continued into my mid 20's. Being good at sports in Australia helped a lot, and I was always pretty outgoing as a kid too. You dont fully comprehend though that there is a cultural problem with your people in general until you travel though. Its a real eye opener. Its something people who dont travel will never understand and its why so many of them are convinced that they have it best where they live, including the women they spend their lives fawning over.

Im not joking when I say that Russian women have ruined me. I was fighting it for years, but I am way beyond the point of fighting it a long time ago. I gave in years ago now and I have completely and utterly thrown the towel in on all western women. They are a waste of my time and I have little patience for their bullshit. At first you think its you, then you realise its your culture as a whole that is absolutely fucked. After going through the anger and acceptance process of it all, you realise that the needle in the haystack probably was not born and raised where you were. You may get lucky from time to time and come across the odd gem, but 99 times out of 100 it was just your dick playing tricks on you again. You go through enough of them and you eventually realise that they have about as much depth to them as splash pool.

Western women are fucked in the head and you can keep them. They are faulty goods and there is nothing they can offer other than 3 holes in a nice package. They bring so little value to the table that if you removed sex from the equation they would add no value to my life at all. They are nothing more than a distraction and a cure to an itch these days.

I used to spend weeks and sometimes months at a time in Russia mostly, but also some of that time in FSU countries too. Most of it was for work, but a lot of it ended up being travel too. It really sucked me in. Every single time I came back to Australia the first thing I noticed was the massive difference in the women and it changed my views on them completely as time went on. You would start speaking to them and you would realise that they really had lost everything which made them women in the first place. The difference was like night and day and it was not easy to accept at first, but eventually it gets to the point where you need to be an idiot to delude yourself any further.

Its not a difference just in looks either, but in overall attitude as a whole. I can forgive discrepancy in looks, but I cant forgive the rest of the shit they bring to the table. Im preaching to the converted here and you all know the score, but that really is the main problem. Its not that the women abroad are hotter, its that the attitudes in general are far better.

You just came from a place where the women dressed well, were feminine, had basic manners and respect for people, took pride in their appearance. The biggest thing for me is that they actually like to be women.

You land back home and its a place where the women are downright rude, obnoxious, spoiled and seem to reject their femininity completely. Most let themselves go horribly, dress poorly and have little respect for men at all. They are caricatures of sitcoms, reality TV shows and TV dramas with little interest in anything outside their own immediate lives and status whoring.

Now many Russian and EE women have hobbies. Things like music, dancing, painting, writing, language study. It was not the "passion" an Australian girl would have for scuba diving or rock climbing, because she had done it two weekends in a row and needed to tell you something impressive, it was a genuine desire to master something they enjoyed. They are very often highly educated, and not in bullshit liberal arts degrees and psychology all the time either. They often have technical degrees in sciences, treating the study of language or history as a hobby. They actually had an interest in shit outside celebrity gossip and the day to day drama of their super awesome lives.

Australian girls would rarely give you the time of day unless you kept it light and entertaining for them too. It is like I am spending my time with children or idiots and they bore me to tears. And it is not just Australian women, it was ALL western women. If they are really attractive, they are almost always so vapid the only reason I want to fuck them half the time is to pound them into submission. I hate fuck western women because its all they are good for. You are talking to a 9 year old little girl, who is in the body of a woman, and it still has dreams of being a princess and stamps its foot like a petulant child when she wants her own way. I take them as seriously as I take a wet fart.

Ironically, treating them with disdain and downright contempt at times has done nothing to harm my success with them.

I started to catch myself staying in touch with a lot of women in Russia and then seeing them when I would return. I would actually LIKE to spend time with them. I would like take them out to dinner because they actually liked to talk about something other than themselves or utter bullshit. I would like to go to a museum with them or take them with me for a weekend somewhere. A Russian women may have an interest in history or politics. An Australian women did not touch a non-fiction book the minute she left high school or university half the time. One I fuck, the other I can actually spend time with if I am not fucking.

I only really learned to appreciate the company of women when I travelled. In most cases I still bang them a few times and then go cold on them, but for the most part I actually do like them. Im just not around enough to get serious with them and I wont apologise for the fact that I like variety. The time spent to bang them though never feels like a chore. Unlike Australian women, where it feels like I am sitting in front of a chalkboard with nails being dragged across while I stick it out for the inevitable bang.

The best way to deal with this is to treat western women with utter disdain. Treat them like the tramps that they are. If anything, you fuck more of them when you view them for what they are. Ill jump through a few hoops if I want to bang her, but not too many because I view them the same way I view cattle. They are all the fucking same, there is nothing special, its just her packaging that is making you think that she is not yet another Sex in the City idolising, celebrity gossip reading, beer drinking slut who lives a selfish existence with a sense of entitlement so great you even cannot comprehend how demanding she really is.

Dont fight it. The place where you live offers other things, but the likelihood of it providing you with quality women is very, very unlikely. Watch the circus with amusement but dont be one of the clowns running around the ring. You know what you know now, use it to your advantage and dont make the same mistakes others do. The advantage you have with women is that western women in general are downright whores. They are absolute sluts and you need to treat them as such. You cant expect whores to be ladies and its not going to happen.

God Harry, I empathise with you completely. The thing about the habits, hobbies of Australian (Western) women. You are right.

Things that matter, things of impact. I care about, I rejoice in the genius of men before me who built up an edifice to a grand, and grander civilisation. Now I look at Hyman Minksy's instability thesis and what is occuring at the tail end of a finance industry fueled credit bubble. I see various market sectors where the regulatory body has been captured by the very sector it was meant to regulate. I observe the degradation of the quality of policy makers due to the sensationalist attitude of the 24 hour media cycle.

And in response I get vaccuous looks, they can't not only offer anything, they fail to understand completely. Then they proceed back into SATC inanity and kardashian-esque fuck-wittery.

The to add insult to injury, I will get ignored at future meetings because "I'm too intense, too intellectual and don't share anything in common to discuss about"

Only with western women is calling someone intelligent considered an insult.

Harry:



You've seen the light because you can travel. But I think most western men, who cannot relocate, will settle for what women they have out of necessity. Western men are raised to be hostages.

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:57 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

God Harry, I empathise with you completely. The thing about the habits, hobbies of Australian (Western) women. You are right.

Things that matter, things of impact. I care about, I rejoice in the genius of men before me who built up an edifice to a grand, and grander civilisation. Now I look at Hyman Minksy's instability thesis and what is occuring at the tail end of a finance industry fueled credit bubble. I see various market sectors where the regulatory body has been captured by the very sector it was meant to regulate. I observe the degradation of the quality of policy makers due to the sensationalist attitude of the 24 hour media cycle.

And in response I get vaccuous looks, they can't not only offer anything, they fail to understand completely. Then they proceed back into SATC inanity and kardashian-esque fuck-wittery.

The to add insult to injury, I will get ignored at future meetings because "I'm too intense, too intellectual and don't share anything in common to discuss about"

Only with western women is calling someone intelligent considered an insult.

That would be why I don't discuss interesting things on dates. Their eyes glaze over.

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:57 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

God Harry, I empathise with you completely. The thing about the habits, hobbies of Australian (Western) women. You are right.

Things that matter, things of impact. I care about, I rejoice in the genius of men before me who built up an edifice to a grand, and grander civilisation. Now I look at Hyman Minksy's instability thesis and what is occuring at the tail end of a finance industry fueled credit bubble. I see various market sectors where the regulatory body has been captured by the very sector it was meant to regulate. I observe the degradation of the quality of policy makers due to the sensationalist attitude of the 24 hour media cycle.

And in response I get vaccuous looks, they can't not only offer anything, they fail to understand completely. Then they proceed back into SATC inanity and kardashian-esque fuck-wittery.

The to add insult to injury, I will get ignored at future meetings because "I'm too intense, too intellectual and don't share anything in common to discuss about"

Only with western women is calling someone intelligent considered an insult.

Dude, you live in Aus so you see it.

Look at how much make up our women put on? You could scrape it off with a shovel. The amount of chemicals they put in their hair makes it look like shit too.

And people think I exaggerate about reality TV in Australia, but I have not seen it this bad anywhere in the world. Its like this sickness that has taken hold of Australia. Its everywhere. I would bet that 90% of the locally produced television these days is all reality shows. Then we still get the Yankee and Pom shows on top of it!

The death knell with an Australian women is if she considers you a bore. A bore is anyone who has any interest that is not hers. And her interests are limited to herself, E!TV and shit she does or thinks people would like her to be doing.

There is no other way but caveman with these bitches. They get nothing but grunts, patronising teasing and silent treatment from me. And it works wonders. Treating them like this gets them wet.

Its amazing how often I have to read about the man shortage in this country when I see whats going on. Then they all wonder why Aussie men are leaving them for Asians in droves. Tell me you are not noticing more and more interracial couples where its predominantly men and foreign women.

The panic and anger its creating has been music to my ears.

As my australian cousin said, australians are a bit ferral.

Dude, ferral I can handle. Ferral is basically Australian country hick. Long may they prosper, I love them dearly. They are as Australian as they come and they feed us.

Our sickness is not the ferral. Its the bogan and the university educated communications/psychology/liberal arts majors we pump out. The bogan is the lower middle class welfare case that has a free ride their entire lives and produces a fair chunk of our female stock.

Used to be that our blue collar families were what made this country great. That is no longer. The women rejected the home for cubicles and pointless degrees. Feminism has killed this country.

Harry doesn't fcuk about with words. Hit the ball out of the fcuking park, bless him.
Now, I have a dilemma. I keep putting my foot in my mouth on dates since I've come to NA because I am too intellectual and I end up making an observation that challenges the political correctness of these lizards.
How can I survive a date with an NA native without fcuking up?

I went on a date a few weeks ago and either fcuked up by mentioning my knowledge of her culture or by an non beta answer of a gender issue question.

Harry, how do you deal with the drole drivel that spews from the jaws of these iguanas? Or is it just a case of me beefing up the numbers?

I've come to a point where I don't even want to text or talk on the phone anymore. I ask them to meet up. Preferably at my place so we don't have to act cultured.
I look at her body. She looks at mine. Wanna fcuk? Yes, ok, let's go. No? Okay, have a good one.

The reason I ask is because yesterday I was thinking about the amount of dates I have gone on and I realised that I have learned absolutely fcuk all about improving myself towards these lizards (here).
All I have learned is quickly alert time being wasted and delete her number.

I don't know what's worse...not travelling and feeling something is not wrong or travelling and KNOWING something is terribly wrong.

But trust me, Harry, I share your feelings. That's my motive to make as much money as I can as quickly as I can so I can have mobility.

Dude, women are low on my totem pole. They basically fit in after gym.

Family
Mates
Business
Sports
Gym
Women

But at the end of the day, I still need to fuck and I like variety. The chase holds little appeal, Im just going through the motions to bust a nut. I love strange pussy, every man does. Im not going to give that up because of the situation with women in Australia. Its not going to change in our lifetime and will probably get worst, so you might as well make the most of it and adapt to your environment.

Bro, I think you just need to keep it simple with western women and basically just treat them like shit. The minute you respect them too much is the minute they lose interest. I go caveman with them most of the time and I work numbers. I also have my fuck buddies, and I prefer that sort of arrangement because I think the sex tends to be better.

Also, after a while you realise that they all think the frikken same way anyway, and half the time this shit is just situational. All you need to do is create the right situation for her and if she is attracted to you its game on. You dont actually have to get to know them and they certainly dont know me, its physical attraction and emotional strings only. Ill lie to bitches and tell them Im a doctor to fuck them. I feel nothing for them, I owe them nothing and they have nothing to really offer me. They are also so incredibly vapid I know that what I am seeing with her is a nothing more than a charade. The harpie inside wont come out for a few weeks/months still, this as you see her is the best she is ever going to be. So when so many turn out to be horrible, selfish people as early as the first or second meet, I almost feel like I am doing Gods work by trying to hate fuck the bitch.

Most of the time, I just stick to a few basic rules. I keep the conversation very light, I avoid politics. I deflect serious questions and if there is any talking about anything its going to be predominantly about her favourite subject in the world, which is normally the subject of "her". I really have nothing invested in the outcome though and I think they sense that. They can see a mile away that I really dont give a fuck and I think that is crucial in the disrespect you need to show them. I tease them, knock them off the high horse a bit from time to time but not too harshly, but mostly I just get them drunk.

Which is why I dont understand why guys dont buy women drinks when you have taken them out. I take them out drinking, and if what I did above was only 50% successful if she was sober you can bet your last dollar it will be 100% effective when she has had a few. Once I have fucked them, the power shift naturally occurs and then I basically put them into the stable. I treat them whores basically.

Occasionally you run into the odd one that seems like a decent enough chick and a small part of me is always hoping that I do, so I take it a bit easier on the treating them a whore part until such time as they let me down or they tell me to piss of because they figure out that Im probably not going to ever be anything serious to them. Believe it or not, there are a few of them out there still that seem to still have their self respect. Not many, most would not know what honour is if it took out its cock and slapped them in the face, but they are out there.

I wish it was not like this, but it is what it is and we need to make the most of it. Maybe you get lucky and you meet a few decent chicks along the way, but I think that western culture and gender relations are so perverted now its very difficult to have a normal relationship with them. Even if they are decent, often their friends and the environment that you are in does you no favours.

The only reason I have not relocated abroad is because my family is tight, Aus is my base when it comes to money and future income (I believe this country will become a mini USA over the next 30-40 years) and the lifestyle is actually pretty good. I like the warm weather, I like my sports, I like to fish. There is more and more pushing me abroad though, so who knows.

Hooligan, what industry are you in and how does one break into it? :O Help a fellow Aussie out.

Resources bud.

The only reason I got to travel as much as I did was because Russia and many of the former USSR countries are very resource rich. They have a ton of gas, oil and other commodities. Many of our large engineering firms are global and do a lot of the project work in developing economies. So when they send me out, its for existing business, but to see what else I can drum up.

My father still contracts as a draughtsman and he is in his mid 60's now. He just got an offer to go to the Philippines for 24 months just this week, said they needed like 20 people or something silly. Same pay, but all expenses covered like accommodation, monthly flights, etc. Happens plenty in this industry. Chile is a big destination at the moment and we have a lot of Chileans here too. Brazil and Peru are on the cards. I know a ton of engineers who went to Russia in the late 90's in particular.

I get the impression you are still pretty young. If mining or resources are something you want to get into, consider getting yourself an engineering degree of some sort. Electrical or mechanical would be good. You wont struggle to find work and there are tons of opportunities for travel. You can make really good money with a trade, but your chances of company paid travel to city locations are limited. You are typically sent onto site with the trades, which is in the middle of no where.

Finance in Australia is also good for travel. You would spend a great deal of time in Asia, although it is a bit more hit and miss with finance.

Drop me a PM if you like.

HH Great post! I'm with you 100%.

So, last night I went out to pull something new and it turned into a disaster. I'm hanging out with one of my "player" buddies at a local bar with about 3 sets of girls that were not all so great so I tell him lets walk down the bar in the hood or another one a block away. This chick walks in and sits next to me on her cell talking...Fuck that motherfucker this and that. I turned to talk to a friend and before I knew it my buddy had bought roses for all the girls in the place and started handing them out, I said NOOOOOOOO!!!!! and grabed them from him and took the one back from the bitch sitting next to me who just glance at it without saying anything to the guy..

I was SHOCKED by this dude. He owns a high end Yacht manufactre and travels a lot and never seen him do dumb shit like that before.

So the girls says to me "Why did you take my flower?" I said it was a mistake and me and my friend needed to talk for a sec.

This bitch starts some shit with me and I said " what do you care? You didn't say thank you or even look at the guy when he gave it to you."

She said "I know you and your game mother fucker so blah blah then I told her that I think she just may have a semi inflated sense of self value. She turns to the bartender an says "Throw this mother out!" Like any dude who pisses girls off should be tossed. They do think that ya know and has happened to me dozens of time. The bartender shakes her head and the girl looked stunned that she wouldn't toss me (my cousin owns the place and would fire her) but if it were someone else they would be gone.

So out of nowhere this dude who was listening behind me comes and tries to punch me in the back of the head. This guy didn't know me or the girl. Both of us grabbed the dude and smashed his head into the bar. I said to the guy "Are you killing me?" (my kid says that) and we pulled the dude outside and we asked him what his deal was and he said "I don't like the way you were talking to her" WTF?

Quote: (11-30-2011 11:19 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

This will be a long post, but being in my mid 30's now might provide some insight. I travelled on the company dime since my early 20's and it was just at the time when the former USSR was coming to terms with its demise, globalisation was ramping up and feminism had really hit its tipping point in the west.

I have never had a hard time of it with women, was quite popular in high school and that continued into my mid 20's. Being good at sports in Australia helped a lot, and I was always pretty outgoing as a kid too. You dont fully comprehend though that there is a cultural problem with your people in general until you travel though. Its a real eye opener. Its something people who dont travel will never understand and its why so many of them are convinced that they have it best where they live, including the women they spend their lives fawning over.

Im not joking when I say that Russian women have ruined me. I was fighting it for years, but I am way beyond the point of fighting it a long time ago. I gave in years ago now and I have completely and utterly thrown the towel in on all western women. They are a waste of my time and I have little patience for their bullshit. At first you think its you, then you realise its your culture as a whole that is absolutely fucked. After going through the anger and acceptance process of it all, you realise that the needle in the haystack probably was not born and raised where you were. You may get lucky from time to time and come across the odd gem, but 99 times out of 100 it was just your dick playing tricks on you again. You go through enough of them and you eventually realise that they have about as much depth to them as splash pool.

Western women are fucked in the head and you can keep them. They are faulty goods and there is nothing they can offer other than 3 holes in a nice package. They bring so little value to the table that if you removed sex from the equation they would add no value to my life at all. They are nothing more than a distraction and a cure to an itch these days.

I used to spend weeks and sometimes months at a time in Russia mostly, but also some of that time in FSU countries too. Most of it was for work, but a lot of it ended up being travel too. It really sucked me in. Every single time I came back to Australia the first thing I noticed was the massive difference in the women and it changed my views on them completely as time went on. You would start speaking to them and you would realise that they really had lost everything which made them women in the first place. The difference was like night and day and it was not easy to accept at first, but eventually it gets to the point where you need to be an idiot to delude yourself any further.

Its not a difference just in looks either, but in overall attitude as a whole. I can forgive discrepancy in looks, but I cant forgive the rest of the shit they bring to the table. Im preaching to the converted here and you all know the score, but that really is the main problem. Its not that the women abroad are hotter, its that the attitudes in general are far better.

You just came from a place where the women dressed well, were feminine, had basic manners and respect for people, took pride in their appearance. The biggest thing for me is that they actually like to be women.

You land back home and its a place where the women are downright rude, obnoxious, spoiled and seem to reject their femininity completely. Most let themselves go horribly, dress poorly and have little respect for men at all. They are caricatures of sitcoms, reality TV shows and TV dramas with little interest in anything outside their own immediate lives and status whoring.

Now many Russian and EE women have hobbies. Things like music, dancing, painting, writing, language study. It was not the "passion" an Australian girl would have for scuba diving or rock climbing, because she had done it two weekends in a row and needed to tell you something impressive, it was a genuine desire to master something they enjoyed. They are very often highly educated, and not in bullshit liberal arts degrees and psychology all the time either. They often have technical degrees in sciences, treating the study of language or history as a hobby. They actually had an interest in shit outside celebrity gossip and the day to day drama of their super awesome lives.

Australian girls would rarely give you the time of day unless you kept it light and entertaining for them too. It is like I am spending my time with children or idiots and they bore me to tears. And it is not just Australian women, it was ALL western women. If they are really attractive, they are almost always so vapid the only reason I want to fuck them half the time is to pound them into submission. I hate fuck western women because its all they are good for. You are talking to a 9 year old little girl, who is in the body of a woman, and it still has dreams of being a princess and stamps its foot like a petulant child when she wants her own way. I take them as seriously as I take a wet fart.

Ironically, treating them with disdain and downright contempt at times has done nothing to harm my success with them.

I started to catch myself staying in touch with a lot of women in Russia and then seeing them when I would return. I would actually LIKE to spend time with them. I would like take them out to dinner because they actually liked to talk about something other than themselves or utter bullshit. I would like to go to a museum with them or take them with me for a weekend somewhere. A Russian women may have an interest in history or politics. An Australian women did not touch a non-fiction book the minute she left high school or university half the time. One I fuck, the other I can actually spend time with if I am not fucking.

I only really learned to appreciate the company of women when I travelled. In most cases I still bang them a few times and then go cold on them, but for the most part I actually do like them. Im just not around enough to get serious with them and I wont apologise for the fact that I like variety. The time spent to bang them though never feels like a chore. Unlike Australian women, where it feels like I am sitting in front of a chalkboard with nails being dragged across while I stick it out for the inevitable bang.

The best way to deal with this is to treat western women with utter disdain. Treat them like the tramps that they are. If anything, you fuck more of them when you view them for what they are. Ill jump through a few hoops if I want to bang her, but not too many because I view them the same way I view cattle. They are all the fucking same, there is nothing special, its just her packaging that is making you think that she is not yet another Sex in the City idolising, celebrity gossip reading, beer drinking slut who lives a selfish existence with a sense of entitlement so great you even cannot comprehend how demanding she really is.

Dont fight it. The place where you live offers other things, but the likelihood of it providing you with quality women is very, very unlikely. Watch the circus with amusement but dont be one of the clowns running around the ring. You know what you know now, use it to your advantage and dont make the same mistakes others do. The advantage you have with women is that western women in general are downright whores. They are absolute sluts and you need to treat them as such. You cant expect whores to be ladies and its not going to happen.

Wisedom....sheer wisedom.

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Quote: (12-01-2011 01:24 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Mechanico, I am bracing myself for 'the shock' once I leave the EE back to TO. To make matters worse, I will be leaving from the epicenter of hotness, Kiev.

I am expecting all or any combination of dry heaving, blackouts, and convulsions once I'm back. God help me.

How long do you have to stay here? I'm interested to hear Roosh's view on this if he's reading.

I used to think he was a little over the top with American women. Now I think he's being kind.

Why is this community such a small part of the population? I mean even the dudes who can't afford to move around should still be bitching up a storm.