Quote: (11-13-2011 08:27 PM)P Dog Wrote:  

Quote: (11-13-2011 05:28 PM)Gariell Wrote:  

I guess you and I do see things differently, but that guy in the top picture is a Eurasian person not a full Asian. The fundamentals of game, as expanded and corrected from the original mystery method do not apply to all "geographic cultures, countries & locations". That first pic of that person you posted? That guy would be looked down upon like crazy in the Middle East/North Africa by BOTH girls & guys for being a "Hazara", or "strange looking", the untouchables of that cultures/region. I guarantee a guy looking like that would get a lot of shit thrown at him in Iran & elsewhere because of the way he looks, (not just because of the Islamic culture). Likewise in Russia he would get beaten to death and gotten looks of disgust/no poon from women because in many ways he resembles someone from the Central Asian republics, and they are considered low class there. I don't know how exactly women think, nor do I profess to, but I do know in many ways that they are HUGELY & neurologically affected by cultural programming towards people positive or negative.

I also really disagree with the rarity thing; rarity by that definition is culturally relative, a rare person (your defin) considered by females within a certain culture does not mean someone completely different or outside the parameters & standards of beauty within that culture, but definable & within the upper echelon and the far end of said culture, somewhat within but not outside of it. All the white guys that I grew up with didn't usually go for Asian girls, (Midwest). I am sure the guy in the picture was airbrushed or had surgery of other things. You and I do have had different experiences and see things differently.

I don't understand what's going on here, on the other threads there were a huge number of guys being subtle, covert or outright racist assholes towards black guys for wanting to be successful with women of all races, and it was being accepted. It took primarily the Black guys to point those assholes out. Yet when Asian guys are concerned everyone is a sweet little angel trying to help the "oppressed" & beaten down Asian man, and you are obviously a no-good close-minded racist if you have any minor criticism or negative things to say about them; even if you aren't even being that close of a racist asshole like the guys in the other threads towards blacks.

One of the best players I know is a 5 ft 6 scrawny Indian dude with a huge nose. He is a living testament that race, height and looks are not deal breakers for women, at least the women here in Australia.

Minority men from this forum have travelled to Russia and Ukraine and not experienced racial violence. Even Roosh has said he thinks the fear of being attacked by skinheads is seriously overblown.

And if you're from the Midwest, how would you know how Middle Eastern and North African girls react towards minority men?

I do agree with you that there's a lot of racism on this forum towards the black guys though. One nutcase said blacks weren't capable of civilization without white people (I'm not black btw)

I am ME so I know what the preferences and culture of my home is or isn't. Didn't you read that one guy who went to Eastern Europe & got attacked and the other guy who did the same and also got attrakcked in Russia? There are like so many stories about guys getting attacked in Russia, white or non-white. I really don't see what cave you been living in, Roosh is a white person so I don't think he know exactly how things will turn out for non-whites. I assure you that Asian guys are not that attractive and below pleasant when it comes to ME, North African, Medi girls from my experiences of them.

Quote: (11-15-2011 08:17 AM)Gariell Wrote:  

I am ME so I know what the preferences and culture of my home is or isn't. Didn't you read that one guy who went to Eastern Europe & got attacked and the other guy who did the same and also got attrakcked in Russia? There are like so many stories about guys getting attacked in Russia, white or non-white. I really don't see what cave you been living in, Roosh is a white person so I don't think he know exactly how things will turn out for non-whites. I assure you that Asian guys are not that attractive and below pleasant when it comes to ME, North African, Medi girls from my experiences of them.

Jesus someone just blew his lid. Let me break that down.

No. 1: Your first sentence makes no sense, I asked how you would have such Middle Eastern experience if you're from the Midwestern United States. Have you spent a lot of time in the Middle East?

No. 2: Yes there is violence in Russia, but forum members have a tendency to get overly panicked about that. There are plenty of cases where minority men have gone to Russia and not been attacked.

No. 3: Roosh is of Turkish heritage, he could easily be mistaken for a Muslim immigrant from the Caucus, who are possible targets for hate crimes in Russia.

No. 4: What experience do you have with women from the Middle East? Your making sweeping generalizations there by saying Middle Eastern girls don't want Asian guys, one of my close friends is Chinese and currently dating a gorgeous Iraqi girl who came to Australia as a refugee. Where's your proof? Be specific. And don't forget the basic fact that what women say is completely incongruent with what (or who in this instance) they actually do.

Quote: (11-15-2011 08:17 AM)Gariell Wrote:  

I am ME so I know what the preferences and culture of my home is or isn't. Didn't you read that one guy who went to Eastern Europe & got attacked and the other guy who did the same and also got attrakcked in Russia? There are like so many stories about guys getting attacked in Russia, white or non-white. I really don't see what cave you been living in, Roosh is a white person so I don't think he know exactly how things will turn out for non-whites. I assure you that Asian guys are not that attractive and below pleasant when it comes to ME, North African, Medi girls from my experiences of them.

I disagree with the bolded. Also Roosh is Persian and has that Turkish Mediterranean look (according to the picture I saw of him). Maybe in America that is white but outside of North America, that look is not considered white. The fact that we travel means that we should disregard American opinions of which races are hot and which ones are not because American opinions of who is sexy has little bearing in the global market. Some of those who are glorified in America are quickly chopped down to earth once they travel and some of those who are the crud under the shoe in America are lionized once they leave America.

In terms of Asian guys not being attractive, this is not true. Again it's all about swag. If you speak of FOBs, then no FOB of any race is attractive. A hillbilly FOB is not deemed attractive etc.
Bruce Lee got lots of lizards and he wasn't Eurasian so how do you explain that?
I'm also certain that Tony Jaa could clean up non Asian lizards.

Even in Australia Roosh wouldn't be considered white, but I thought he was Turkish not Persian? Anyway haha Moma, I can tell by your use of the term "FOB" that your Australian or Canadian Am I right?

When I'm out there in the field, it's just me, I don't really care about a girl's racial preference or other stuff. If a girl responds she responds, if she doesn't: oh well.

Quote: (11-15-2011 09:51 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Even in Australia Roosh wouldn't be considered white, but I thought he was Turkish not Persian? Anyway haha Moma, I can tell by your use of the term "FOB" that your Australian or Canadian Am I right?

I learnt the term FOB from others when I came to Toronto, Canada.

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However, crucially, a non-white guy with same level of looks as a white guy needs to:

1. Work harder and have better game to land the same quality of pussy.

2. And/or needs be more accomplished in other aspects of his life to land the same pussy as the white guy.

While this true to an extent but understand this: Many White men have been fooled into being to (with all due respect) flaming , proud tricks believing in the virtue of women. And once she's got what she wanted (a trick marriage for you money and your even your sperm donation and social status IF you even have any), it's usually too late. The stats in the article basically state what the atleast some men at the bottom (Black men) knew along: Most Women are prostitutes in some way, shape or form. This especially true of White women since they have power on their own. If you look at bigger picture this is part of the price that come with selling of the illusion of White supermacy. On the otherhand, White Supremacy has made Black people thristy, thus the drive to have someone else's women or at least facsimile (lighter more with closer to caucasian appearance version of her). However this thirstiness, hunger if you will creates opportunity. If you want something bad enough you cal have it at a price. This persumed upperhand white guy's have exacts a heavy psychological toll on ever one involved.

Quote: (11-15-2011 09:42 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (11-15-2011 08:17 AM)Gariell Wrote:  

I am ME so I know what the preferences and culture of my home is or isn't. Didn't you read that one guy who went to Eastern Europe & got attacked and the other guy who did the same and also got attrakcked in Russia? There are like so many stories about guys getting attacked in Russia, white or non-white. I really don't see what cave you been living in, Roosh is a white person so I don't think he know exactly how things will turn out for non-whites. I assure you that Asian guys are not that attractive and below pleasant when it comes to ME, North African, Medi girls from my experiences of them.

I disagree with the bolded. Also Roosh is Persian and has that Turkish Mediterranean look (according to the picture I saw of him). Maybe in America that is white but outside of North America, that look is not considered white. The fact that we travel means that we should disregard American opinions of which races are hot and which ones are not because American opinions of who is sexy has little bearing in the global market. Some of those who are glorified in America are quickly chopped down to earth once they travel and some of those who are the crud under the shoe in America are lionized once they leave America.

In terms of Asian guys not being attractive, this is not true. Again it's all about swag. If you speak of FOBs, then no FOB of any race is attractive. A hillbilly FOB is not deemed attractive etc.
Bruce Lee got lots of lizards and he wasn't Eurasian so how do you explain that?
I'm also certain that Tony Jaa could clean up non Asian lizards.

So hypothetically speaking, someone like Tom Brady, Bradley Cooper, Brad Pitt, Kellan lutz, Chase Crawford, or Vince from Entourage will have trouble picking up girls once they leave the U.S and get "chopped" down if they didn't have fame? I don't believe you, I also think Tony Jaa would only get the sluts of non Asian females.

Quote: (11-13-2011 04:52 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

Quote: (11-13-2011 04:38 PM)Gariell Wrote:  

I don't believe a lot of things, the guy claiming that Asian guy got eyefucked constantly I have to ask, where the girls Asian or White? If i go through IMDb, the best looking Asians guys are not as good looking as the top caliber white/other ethnic guys. The entire logic behind what speakeasy and various other people is that, if you were to take the best looking guys from all the races, the Asians guys would come out at the bottom. Asian girls are not the same as Asian guys, the feminine features of Asians look attractive on the females while the males with the same features are not masculine.

I know for a fact that regardless of how good looking your Asian friend or any Asian is, none of the higher caliber North African, Middle Eastern girls would ever look or even think about going out with an Asian guy. The hot girls of other races have a wider pool of men to choose from, including the supremely good looking guys of their own race & whites. Why would a *hot* Latin/Hispanic girl go out with an Asian guy when she has supremely good looking Latin guys to choose from? Why would she choose a guy that looks perpetually different & strange compared to the standards of beauty that she is used to (& the world)?

Yeah, I'm just going to ignore what I saw/see with my own eyes because of your vague racist views on what women like, even though you aren't a woman yourself. You sound a lot like the guys who comment on the game vs. looks thread, when they aren't good looking and have no basis to make that comparison.

I live in a mostly-white area. I've seen him pull up the spectrum from 9's down to 3's, mostly white chicks because I don't hang out in Asian bars/clubs.

I'll stand behind my statements. The guy below will pull better than a comparably handsome white guy because he is more RARE... Women like more rare things. Good looking white guys are more common, and hence, less rare. If you don't get this simple aspect of female psychology, then you got a lot to learn about the fundamentals of game (sorry to say).



Guy above benefits because most of his ethnic competition is like this:

Quote: (11-13-2011 04:38 PM)Gariell Wrote:  

The white guys that go for Asians girls are usually the ones that don't have many options in the first place, and they are usually geeks or nerds.

Maybe you and I have just seen different things. I've spent part of my life in coastal California. I can definitively say that a lot of top-tier white guys on the West Coast love Asian chicks.

LOL you posted a pic of a retard.

Quote: (11-15-2011 05:55 PM)The Lesser Evil Wrote:  

Understand this: Many White men have been fooled into being to (with all due respect) flaming , proud tricks believing in the virtue of women. And once she's got what she wanted (a trick marriage for you money and your even your sperm donation and social status IF you even have any), it's usually too late. The stats in the article basically state what the atleast some men at the bottom (Black men) knew along: Most Women are prostitutes in some way, shape or form. This especially true of White women since they have power on their own. If you look at bigger picture this is part of the price that come with selling of the illusion of White supermacy.

+1

I believe you succintly explained what I was talking about earlier.

Quote: (11-17-2011 01:47 AM)blurb Wrote:  

Quote: (11-15-2011 05:55 PM)The Lesser Evil Wrote:  

Understand this: Many White men have been fooled into being to (with all due respect) flaming , proud tricks believing in the virtue of women. And once she's got what she wanted (a trick marriage for you money and your even your sperm donation and social status IF you even have any), it's usually too late. The stats in the article basically state what the atleast some men at the bottom (Black men) knew along: Most Women are prostitutes in some way, shape or form. This especially true of White women since they have power on their own. If you look at bigger picture this is part of the price that come with selling of the illusion of White supermacy.

+1

I believe you succintly explained what I was talking about earlier.

I meant to say: "White women since they have NO REAL power on their own".