Quote: (10-19-2014 04:21 PM)Shikulu Wrote:  

Just for the record, of course I did not wait for her for 2 hours. I set this up in my favourite coffee place, so I drank one of their amazing Cappuccinos and left after 20 min.

I thought about daygaming since I was already out - then again, this is the worst hipster part of town. You can literally hang around for hours without seeing anything interesting.

She messaged me today asking me to forgive her and that she would make up for it.

She wants to make up for it? Tell her to come over to your place for dinner, bring some wine, and dress sexy since you "might go to a club together later." Take it or leave it. Then smash - if she actually shows. That way there's zero investment of effort on your part - if she doesn't show you're literally out nothing.

I wouldn't reply for nearly a week! This is what i do next...

Next time i speak to her, I'll give her a lecture! I basically tell her (has to be on the phone so she can her your SERIOUS tone of voice that u aren't going to put up with her shit) "if you ever cancel on me again, i don't want to have anything to do with u!" "i don't have time for people that play games."

wait for reply...

sorry... blah blah blah...

"i'm free on... u?" *turn down the serious tone*
her...
"ok, sunday 7pm, be at my place or else dont contact me again"

when a woman plays games with u, it gives u a chance to show your dominate personality. most guys are pussies... hence this behaviour should always get a girls attention.

my ex did the same thing 2 me where she said she lost her phone. she worked at the cafeteria near my work that i ate at nearly everyday. i just walk straight up to her and gave her a lecture like i said above. she felt so guilty. we end up seeing each other for 2 years where it was common for me to put her in line. she was a hot little 18 y/o.

i personally find the hot young girls play this game cause these bitches are getting alot of attention! just need to show her u aren't going to put up with their shit! punish her by not showing her attention!

being assertive = respect & builds attraction!

it's human nature to push people to see how much shit we can get away with. now u need to man up and put her in line! if she blows u off, at least u can walk away knowing u man up!

don't ever get in a relationship with these girls tho. it's a headache at times! it's best to bang and then get rid of!

Alas, your self respect & time > possibility of access to arbitrary score 8.5 level pussy.
NEXT!
On the plus side, you've gained valuable experience & insight. A number of us here, i'm sure can relate to the initial pain of this experience.

Quote: (10-20-2014 03:34 AM)rytech Wrote:  

Quote: (10-19-2014 04:21 PM)Shikulu Wrote:  

Just for the record, of course I did not wait for her for 2 hours. I set this up in my favourite coffee place, so I drank one of their amazing Cappuccinos and left after 20 min.

I thought about daygaming since I was already out - then again, this is the worst hipster part of town. You can literally hang around for hours without seeing anything interesting.

She messaged me today asking me to forgive her and that she would make up for it.

She wants to make up for it? Tell her to come over to your place for dinner, bring some wine, and dress sexy since you "might go to a club together later." Take it or leave it. Then smash - if she actually shows. That way there's zero investment of effort on your part - if she doesn't show you're literally out nothing.

I was going to say something along these lines. I would not even include the part about "might go to a club later", because she works at a club, gets enough of that already. Just tell her "if you want to make up for it, just come over address is xxxxxx" then run the first date bang recipe.

She was "not sure anymore when you were supposed to see each other"...

If you meet a 9 and get a date, I can bet that you will remember which date/time you are supposed to see her, and you would manage your stuff to have a charged phone.

This is just disrespect, move on, you don't need someone like that. A second chance, all right. A third one, that's crazy. But a fourth?

3 backup plan for a date.

Make other plans in advance and then go right out and do them.

Thr real question is: why don't you have any other option. If you had had, you would just move on.

What happened with this? Hope ya pump and dumped her

Quote: (11-28-2014 07:00 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

What happened with this? Hope ya pump and dumped her

She actually kept messaging me for about a week. Not daily, but enough for me to give it one more try. I asked her if she knew any good movies and if she wanted to watch one back at my place-there was not much too loose by going very direct. To my surprise, she agreed and... She was on time. At first I was pulling her leg quite hard about that I already made other plans because I didnt expect her to show up and so on, we eventually watched the movie and I tried to escalate. Long story short, she gave me a BJ but I didnt get the bang. Might be seeing her again, who knows.

Well done, you should get the bang next time

Nah. Dude have some self respect and block the number. Only give flakes 2nd choice and that's IF they mention another day specifically. She was just fucking with you.

In my experience this is how it goes with the top girls (unless you have SMV/Game of infinity yourself). They have so many options and you are just one of them. It also never gets better with these girls. Once a flake, always a flake.

Edit: conclusion, pump and dump.

If a girl flakes on me but is still in contact and she says she still wants to hang then I tell her just to come to my place to chill. She can either show up and I have home field advantage, or she doesn't and I rub one out then do something else. Whatever.

Quote: (11-02-2015 11:59 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

If a girl flakes on me but is still in contact and she says she still wants to hang then I tell her just to come to my place to chill. She can either show up and I have home field advantage, or she doesn't and I rub one out then do something else. Whatever.

I concur. I rarely count a chic out for sex...just keep her for a potential. I never know when she's gonna think about the night we met and remember my sexy smirk and witty tease and want to come over and fuck.

That said, if it was just a phone number close at a club (no other contact besides text, no mutual friends, etc)...I myself very, very, very little chance. She's a babe...she gives her phone number out to 15 guys per week. But still worth keeping her out there.

The best possible thing you can do is start gaming another girl at the coffee shop, or go to a nearby bar and try picking up girls there.

I usually leave their # in my phone for 24 hours to see if they even bother with an excuse as to why they stood me up or flaked. After that, I delete them. And typically even if I hear from them, it's done.

Use a martial arts mentality re. girls. Apply their own energy against them, to your favor. The victory is oh so sweet when a flake segues into a girl who gloriously performs.

When I have a date arranged with a girl, regardless of how she behaved prior (positive or otherwise).
On the morning of the date, I'll send a text along the lines of :
"See you at 6pm." (direct that way)

I never send a text along the lines of - "Are we still on for 6pm?"

Then regardless of whether I receive a response or not.
I'll have backup plans in the same district or for the same day.
Catching up with friends. Seeing a movie. Maybe distract myself at a strip joint.
Whatever else I can do.
That way I'm not reliant on the date & if it doesn't go ahead. Cest la vie.
I don't waste my time & simply pursue some other course of action.

Quote: (11-02-2015 06:36 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

When I have a date arranged with a girl, regardless of how she behaved prior (positive or otherwise).
On the morning of the date, I'll send a text along the lines of :
"See you at 6pm." (direct that way)

I never send a text along the lines of - "Are we still on for 6pm?"

Then regardless of whether I receive a response or not.
I'll have backup plans in the same district or for the same day.
Catching up with friends. Seeing a movie. Maybe distract myself at a strip joint.
Whatever else I can do.
That way I'm not reliant on the date & if it doesn't go ahead. Cest la vie.
I don't waste my time & simply pursue some other course of action.

Agreed. There's nothing wrong with confirming plans but like everything else it's how you do it. My tactic is similar and I always text "Hey (lizard) looking forward to seeing you tonight at x". Almost 100% of the time they'll quickly get back to me and agree on the time or will need to make minor time changes. I don't get too worked up if they need to push the time 30 mins to an hour later. My thinking is I'd rather them show up in a chill state of mind rather than stressed about trying to get there on time.

On the other hand if they want to drastically change the plans like moving to a different venue or going earlier in the day (implying they have plans after me) I'll do the takeaway and say "It sounds like tonight isn't a good night for you let's reschedule for another time" and then I go radio silent. It's now on them to reach out and try to set up a make up date. If not, I'm on to the next.

Quote: (11-02-2015 04:59 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

The victory is oh so sweet when a flake segues into a girl who gloriously performs.

Absolutely. I have one particularly legendary flake-turnaround story with a girl that was the flake to end all flakes.

OKC broad I chatted up a bit then moved to text. She was a total cunt, and responded well to asshole game so I was an aloof douchebag to her and she seemed to be into it. This was a good sign because broads that dig assholes are usually total whores in the sack all the time.

We made plans one night for her to come over and we were gonna grab some takeout. She no called/no showed and no follow up next day. To humor myself I called her out and she said her dad was sick or some shit and she had to go to the ER with him. Classic. Said she was sorry and meant to text me today about blah blah blah so we make plans for the following week.

No call no show again. I do the same thing - give her shit the next day. Says her friend died in a car accident. Wicked classic. So we reschedule for another day.

Third time, no call no show and no follow up next day. I just let it go and delete her number

Fast forward a few months and I see she visited my profile so I message her for shit and gigs. She says she feels like she missed out by never chilling with me because I'm good looking and "kind of a dick" which she says she likes (shocking, I know). So I play asshole somemore and we make some plans and she swears she's NOT going to bail. Being the wise player I am I make other plans with a friend of mine.

My buddy comes over and we jam in my studio. Surprise to me, this girl actually shows up . So I invite her up to my studio and she sits while my buddy and I continue to jam. Eventually my friend takes off and her and I chill and chat. She is a cool shit and I break her bitch shield pretty easily. I'm starving so we grab a bite and bring it back to my place.

We eat then I make the move. It gets hot fast - she whips my dick out and says "I love sucking cock..." Of course you do sweetheart. She blows me like a porn star and we move up to my bedroom. I fuck her brains out 3 ways to Sunday - no condom (she is supposedly allergic to latex HA! genetically predisposed to be be raw dogged) and she has me blow all over her face.

I had her come over one more time late night after she got out of work at like 11pm for another wild fuck session and that was the last time I saw her. She bailed on another set of plans we had and I dropped her.

She is playing games, tell her when she is well you would like to wine and dine her , make her feel good.Pick the most exspensive restraunt in town ..and tell her to meet you inside ..the table is booked in the name of "smith" .. then go drinking with your mates and laugh your ass off at her texts, she is playing you.play her.

Delete number and replace with the hot girls sitting next to you

DO NOT CALL HER TO CHECK WHERE SHE IS.
DO NOT CALL HER TO ASK WHY SHE DIDN'T COME
DO NOT CALL HER TO ARRANGE ANOTHER DATE

Either she calls to try to find you, or calls later with an apology and to propose another date, or nothing.

Her phone died? I'm guessing that for every 100 times girls say that, its only true 2 times. If she flakes on you, its over. If you come back that shows your desperate. You say you think she's interested but its just as likely she wants to lock you in her orbit. Forget her and move on. If she was really attracted to you she would make it a point to hang out with you. If you were George Cloony her phone would magically come back to life.

If she likes you she will find you. If she does not like you find someone else. No need to dwell on her. I think you have mild oneitis.

Ask for a bj at your place.

Or just go silent. She's obviously fucking with you.