Quote: (07-29-2015 08:36 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

I am all for self-help and dating advice, but some of this pick up artist stuff is terrible.

What part of game is terrible? I'm genuinely intrigued now. An intelligent response would be appreciated.

A lamb walks into a lions' den... and we get this thread.

Quote: (07-29-2015 08:32 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Which came from this interview, where the interviewer is nearly having an orgasm the entire time...

LOL yeah I was waiting for the screams. Man, if I had a body like that I'd have to put my dick in a cast to keep up.

Hey OP, I just want to say thanks.

I have been feeling pretty shitty since yesterday and this thread brightened me up a little bit.

You're still a young chick so there's still time to turn things around, but that is up to you.

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:02 AM)Porfirio Rubirosa Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 08:36 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

I am all for self-help and dating advice, but some of this pick up artist stuff is terrible.

What part of game is terrible? I'm genuinely intrigued now. An intelligent response would be appreciated.

Look, there is nothing wrong with picking up women and sleeping with them if that's what both parties want. However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better. When he did it to me, I knew exactly what he was doing and even joked about it. I just think that teaching men to be "alpha" and telling them to do shitty things like lie, deceive, and manipulate them is horrible. Women do this to guys too, of course... i'm not saying that is okay. I just wish people were more honest and weren't trying to play with emotions and all of that. I think this forum is a space for men who feel insecure and unworthy... they try to measure up and compare themselves to other men and that's how they determine their self-worth. i don't think it gives some guys "real" confidence. It might teach them how to talk to more women, so they get more results, yeah. However, i feel like the honesty in conversation is lost...and you see women as "targets" rather than people. It's like we are some kind of rare Pokemon.. and not in a good way. i am a very shy person and would never come up to a guy first, so there is definitely a lot of pressure for men in that respect. However, on this forum, there is a lot of misogyny going on and it seems like the negativity outweighs the actual self-help stuff.

Quote: (07-29-2015 08:06 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

$50 says she's a SIF.

I saw her full length pics on OKC before she took down her profile.

She's thin for an American girl.

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:11 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better. When he did it to me, I knew exactly what he was doing and even joked about it.

So you knew he negged you. Even though he was, in your own words, "being manipulative", you still ended up with him anyway?

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:12 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 08:06 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

$50 says she's a SIF.

I saw her full length pics on OKC before she took down her profile.

She's thin for an American girl.

Couldn't tell if that was a neg. I'm not that thin, though. I've only recently lost weight ..

I pump-and-dump an average slut and 8 pages later shes still bitching about it....because patriarchy or something

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:11 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:02 AM)Porfirio Rubirosa Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 08:36 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

I am all for self-help and dating advice, but some of this pick up artist stuff is terrible.

What part of game is terrible? I'm genuinely intrigued now. An intelligent response would be appreciated.

Look, there is nothing wrong with picking up women and sleeping with them if that's what both parties want. However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better. When he did it to me, I knew exactly what he was doing and even joked about it. I just think that teaching men to be "alpha" and telling them to do shitty things like lie, deceive, and manipulate them is horrible. Women do this to guys too, of course... i'm not saying that is okay. I just wish people were more honest and weren't trying to play with emotions and all of that. I think this forum is a space for men who feel insecure and unworthy... they try to measure up and compare themselves to other men and that's how they determine their self-worth. i don't think it gives some guys "real" confidence. It might teach them how to talk to more women, so they get more results, yeah. However, i feel like the honesty in conversation is lost...and you see women as "targets" rather than people. It's like we are some kind of rare Pokemon.. and not in a good way. i am a very shy person and would never come up to a guy first, so there is definitely a lot of pressure for men in that respect. However, on this forum, there is a lot of misogyny going on and it seems like the negativity outweighs the actual self-help stuff.

Women manipulate all the time. It's reflexive.

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However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better

He does that naturally he's an offensive person not a pua.

Do you guys posting here know who she's talking about?

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:12 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 08:06 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

$50 says she's a SIF.

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:16 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:11 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better. When he did it to me, I knew exactly what he was doing and even joked about it.

So you knew he negged you. Even though he was, in your own words, "being manipulative", you still ended up with him anyway?

I was extremely comfortable with him. i knew he negged me and it bothered me at first.. but after I knew what a neg was, I joked about it with him every time he did it to me. He was manipulative in other ways-- like making me feel guilty when he was in the wrong (and has never apologized for anything to this day). I think that when i get comfortable with someone, it is hard to leave them. It takes me a while to open up and all.

OP, did you let him hit it raw?

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:17 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

He does that naturally he's an offensive person not a pua.

Do you guys posting here know who she's talking about?

Mech is here

OP, we don't see you as 'some kind of rare Pokemon'. On the contrary, abundance mentality and de-pedestalisation are key principles of ours.

I came onto this thread and immediately thought...this started out like a gender reversal of the the slutwalk flasher



and then ended/or is ending up like Rousey vs. Mousasi



Either way, its like an "as it happens" example of the stereotypes repeated on this forum. Its like a dude in a dirty baseball hat with a confederate flag patch, cowboy boots a sleveless t-shirt and a lifted 4x4 driving up to you and saying "Hey...I know what you're thinking, but I'm not a redneck"

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:17 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

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However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better

He does that naturally he's an offensive person not a pua.

Do you guys posting here know who she's talking about?

Yeah he's a naturally offensive person albeit he might not see it. I think he does use some of the advice on here but at the same time, he says he does not agree with Roosh's views. He tries to act alpha and feigns confidence but I know he's got insecurities like all of us. Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be an asshole about it. I actually painted him something for his birthday... after he dumped me the first time since he was still seeing his ex and I caught him in his lies.

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:16 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:12 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

I saw her full length pics on OKC before she took down her profile.

She's thin for an American girl.

Couldn't tell if that was a neg. I'm not that thin, though. I've only recently lost weight ..

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:29 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:17 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

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However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better

He does that naturally he's an offensive person not a pua.

Do you guys posting here know who she's talking about?

Yeah he's a naturally offensive person albeit he might not see it. I think he does use some of the advice on here but at the same time, he says he does not agree with Roosh's views. He tries to act alpha and feigns confidence but I know he's got insecurities like all of us. Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be an asshole about it. I actually painted him something for his birthday... after he dumped me the first time since he was still seeing his ex and I caught him in his lies.

I know the backstory on this so don't try to come here and act like you were some killer girlfriend that got caught up in the PUA world.

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:33 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:29 AM)Alau211 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:17 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

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However, things like negging are kind of manipulative. I don't think you need to try to lower anyone's self-esteem to try to make yourself feel better

He does that naturally he's an offensive person not a pua.

Do you guys posting here know who she's talking about?

Yeah he's a naturally offensive person albeit he might not see it. I think he does use some of the advice on here but at the same time, he says he does not agree with Roosh's views. He tries to act alpha and feigns confidence but I know he's got insecurities like all of us. Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be an asshole about it. I actually painted him something for his birthday... after he dumped me the first time since he was still seeing his ex and I caught him in his lies.

I know the backstory on this so don't try to come here and act like you were some killer girlfriend that got caught up in the PUA world.

Hm. Wonder what he's told you. I'm not a killer gf.. I was wrong at times.. but he did some really fucked up shit.

Quote: (07-29-2015 05:49 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

The so-called PUA you're talking about is a thrice-banned member of this forum.

I knew it!!

Said banned member is a 50+ y.o. dating a cute 24 yo. in D.C.

Quote: (07-29-2015 09:37 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Said banned member is a 50+ y.o. dating a cute 24 yo. in D.C.

Real life Mr. Bitches