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I was really blown away by the older women in the film who were just as good fighters as the men. I’d never seen that before. They all have so much agency and independence.

Yeah - older women are the true hardasses in real life - battlefield in ancient times were always filled with 50 year old women who were fighting on par with men in their prime.

More proof that feminism is just penis envy.

A couple years ago when I first heard about there being another Mad Max movie I was pumped up. Then when I saw the trailers coming out right off the bat I knew it was going to be a shitty movie. I really liked all the Mad Max movies, Thunderdome included. However, the first thing that stuck out to me in the trailer of the new one was the bald chick. Mad Max is supposed to be the badass but in the trailers it seemed like he depended on baldy.

Women are kick ass warriors who are also feminine in war zones?

Three things in recent history would immediately tell you otherwise;

- Islamic State
- Boko Haram

The closest thing to lawless war zones and...?

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I was given the number of the casting agent for this, but missed the close of casting by three days. I was kicking myself for a long time, but now I'm glad to have missed out.

Remember '300'? How it was popular and iconic, and inspired a Spartan Fitness craze?

Remember '300: Rise Of An Empire'? How it was about how one ugly female orphan slave (in historical reality - A Privileged Queen from birth) - who could beat entire armies with the power of her vagina, that came and how that came and went without much comment?

Hollywood has nothing to offer men except propaganda about how women are superior. I wonder if we got get some kind of Twitter hashtag going, by throwing the quotes from this article up over marketing for the movie, and mock this movie as being for ugly lesbians with penis envy issues.

I agree with the femcentric propaganda in Rise of an Empire, but Eva Green is in no way an "ugly female" lol

Quote: (05-11-2015 05:43 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

I was given the number of the casting agent for this, but missed the close of casting by three days. I was kicking myself for a long time, but now I'm glad to have missed out.

Were you going to play one of those guys?



The first Mad Max where the men are rooting for the bad guys hoping that they can get their girls back before they reach their matriarchal utopia. Judging how adept women are at upholding civilization I think that the female utopia would consist of a cave with a fireplace and some occasional snake meat. At least the men have workable cars & some technology. The women would turn around and go back to their luxury harem.


Heh - also like the ROK article by Aaron Clarey on that subject - here a pic of the main heroine:


One of the most beautiful women Hollywood's.

And the best comment:

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Should have simply called it "Mad Maxipad".

Quote: (05-11-2015 06:23 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

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I was given the number of the casting agent for this, but missed the close of casting by three days. I was kicking myself for a long time, but now I'm glad to have missed out.

Were you going to play one of those guys?

Possibly. I was told I had 'just the right look' and to get in touch. Scuffed my feet in dust for two weeks about it, and missed the window by three days.

This was around Nov 2013, and the film was undergoing Extensive Reshooting a year after completing main production, to add 'more story' - never a good sign. It was originally supposed to be out in the American Summer of 2014.

Time has clearly told me this film is not for me, and I'll listen.

I suspect this movie was a better Mad Max than the new one will be. Note the imagery:

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I agree with the femcentric propaganda in Rise of an Empire, but Eva Green is in no way an "ugly female" lol

Superficially, very beautiful. Repeated roles in films and tv where she's aggressive, constantly sour, sarcastic and unfeminine, with the result that her beauty was utterly-degraded in my eyes. I don't want to bang faux-men, no matter how pretty the container is. She has tits, but lacks Femininity.

Hollywood does everything it can to masculinise women: note Therzon in this, or see her swaggering role in 'A Million Ways To Die In The West', where she's superior to the hero in every way, and you get the feeling the hero really wants to be banging a dude.

It's hard to explain just what True Femininity used to be to younger guys, and why banging modern women - no matter how beautiful - can sometimes feel like a Homosexual relationship.

Quote: (05-11-2015 07:18 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It's hard to explain just what True Femininity used to be to younger guys, and why banging modern women - no matter how beautiful - can sometimes feel like a Homosexual relationship.

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:41 AM)Other Barry Wrote:  

George Miller really fucked up big time with Beyond Thunderdome, which was an absolute piece of shit.

For what it's worth, Miller didn't really direct Beyond Thunderdome. He co-directed with a guy named George Oglivie (IMDB Link) but legend has it, Miller was pretty burnt out or something at the time, and it was pretty much Ogilvie that made the piece of crap.

Miller only helped with the action sequences (which weren't bad...probably only thing decent in the movie) but they gave him top billing for marketing purposes.

"officially"?

Thread title seems a bit hysterical over a "re-boot" aimed at the mall theater crowd.

Why don't you see it for yourself and critique it your own words?

Interesting that it seems George Miller was also an ER Doctor at some point in his life.

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We just want our stories to be given equal consideration—to also get a spot on the playing field.

Whether they've earned the spot or not.

I have to agree with The_CEO on his one.
Movies do not portray life realistically and present a fantasy element of an idealized and absurd paradigm?
News at eleven!
Whether or not this film sucks or is great matters more as to how it tells a good story and taps effectively into the zeitgeist than anything else.
When I first heard about AVATAR, I said:"Are you kidding me? A giant Kebler elf tree? Humans leading the aliens so that social justice warriors have something to masturbate to? Are you f*cking kidding me?"
And then I saw it and was thrillled. Did I care about the theme? No. Did I love the action? yes. Am I buying into megabucks Cameron's "Save the Space Whales" story? Hell no! Doesn't matter, still a good movie.
And that's all I want from the MAD MAX reboot. If it sucks, it deserves to tank.

A large SJW site didn't like ROK's take on the movie:

http://www.themarysue.com/mra-to-the-max/

It's interesting that Therzon's presence also sunk the movie of Cormac McCarthy's 'The Road' - a story focused on a father and son surviving after an unspecified apocalyptic event and him doing everything he could to keep his son alive: a specifically male story of survival.

Hollywood couldn't let it go out without an unnecessary major female role being shoved into the thing and her presence weakened the immediacy of the material. She was a big fan of the book, so, being a woman, had to make sure a large part of it was all about HER and HER feelings 'if she was in that situation'. As such, the father / son aspect is played down, and the intensity disperses.

I only got halfway through the movie, and gave up. I've always meant to return to it and finish it off, but have just realised that was in 2010.

God fucking damn it. I wanted to see this movie.

Looks like I'll have to wait for the pirates.

Quote: (05-12-2015 08:33 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

A large SJW site didn't like ROK's take on the movie:

http://www.themarysue.com/mra-to-the-max/

Standard progressives ranting in narcissistic fury, not realising we're not 'MRA's', embolded by a site that is run by a guy who looks like a classic Kiddie Fucker.

We've struck a nerve.

I guess I'm entirely-threatened the bad-assery of the boyish stuntman who did Therzon's stunts; the male actors who had to draw on deep reserves of acting to look like her punches and kicks actually impacted on them, let alone hurt them; and the team of neckbeard computer programmers who pasted her body onto the top of cars and trains.

The deliberate boyification of Therzon here plays into my increasingly-strengthening theory that what Progressives increasingly want to sexualise children: she looks like a teenage boy. It could be interesting to investigate the Female Typists behind the Mary Sue site and see if we discover any links to the Marion Zimmer Bradley / Sarah Butts / Lena Dunham type of creepy sexualisation of children. Note both "Gone Home' and 'The Last Of Us' focus on sexualising teenagers: the latter is particularly pathetic, two adult women acting dialogue written by an adult man, sounding like no teenage girls alive.

Here's something creepy already: Typist Kaira Zenine Villanueva gushing about how 'The Last Of Us' took her back to her childhood crush:

Mary Sue

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But as I was playing The Last of Us, I noticed some repetitive nuisances I did that eventually led to a series of questions about said interest. There were multiple moments when I caught myself saying “Ellie and I would have been best friends” over and over. But what I really meant to say was much more than that and it quintessentially comes down to “Ellie and I would have been lovers.” The detrimental facet that resonated after I have stowed away my feelings for women were not the possible romantic relationships I could have established but how apologetic I became about who I am. Phrases like I’m sorry would become habitual tics to refrain myself from accepting this understanding.

The Last of Us quickly became a serendipitous reminder—a shower of nostalgia—about what attracted me to the first girl I liked. Her personality was highly similar to Ellie and it did not click at first, but as the game progressed, I started referencing mental images of Ellie in my head that represented characteristics I liked about my childhood crush.

She's looking at a 12-year-old character and sexualising fantasies about what she would have done with her past crush at that age. I stopped thinking about my teenage fumbling by the end of my teens. This ties in with studies that suggest nostalgia appeals to lonely people.

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Truly, The Last of Us made me experience a full narrative exploring the character dynamics of Ellie, as well as the duality of her relationship with Riley. But more importantly, this game provided me the reassurance I needed to validate me being bisexual. If it were not for characters like Ellie and Riley, I would not have had developed a backbone to accept my bisexuality. Diversity like this is significant because they give weight to representation in games.

This is pathetic. She's a 20 something adult needing reassurance about her lifestyle and sexual choices from 12 year old characters in a game aimed at teenagers. It's a small step from being trapped in an awkward teenage mindset, consuming nerd culture aimed at teenagers, reading Young Adult trash fiction, and being eventually unable to relate to healthy adults your own age. Is this where the progressive millennial deviance and inability to mature eventually becomes a sexual attraction to children?

I really hope what I am reading is not true. There was a hard edge to Mad Max 1 & 2 (forget ThunderDome) that I want to see in Fury Road.

I'll be disappointed if it's just another piece of bullshit trying to promote strong female role models.

Should have got Mel Gibson to direct this film!

The title of this thread could be a template: [X] ruined by mangina [Y].

This is interesting because both this movie and the new Avenger's movie had trailers I found offputting and after hearing news on both I figured out what it was: every shot or promo for the Avengers seemed to be shoving superheroes into frame which is an allegory for the movie as a whole I understand, and Max did not seem to do much of anything. I recall him even being displayed as tied up in an embarrassing way.
Another allegory for the movie as a whole

Quote: (05-12-2015 08:37 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It's interesting that Therzon's presence also sunk the movie of Cormac McCarthy's 'The Road' - a story focused on a father and son surviving after an unspecified apocalyptic event and him doing everything he could to keep his son alive: a specifically male story of survival.

I don't about that, AB. I mean that movie just flat out sucked. It was the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked. It just plain sucked.

I couldn't finish watching it. Nothing could save it, in my opinion.

Quote: (05-12-2015 08:16 PM)ColSpanker Wrote:  

When I first heard about AVATAR, I said:"Are you kidding me? A giant Kebler elf tree? Humans leading the aliens so that social justice warriors have something to masturbate to? Are you f*cking kidding me?"
And then I saw it and was thrillled. Did I care about the theme? No. Did I love the action? yes. Am I buying into megabucks Cameron's "Save the Space Whales" story? Hell no! Doesn't matter, still a good movie.
And that's all I want from the MAD MAX reboot. If it sucks, it deserves to tank.

Please don't compare Avatar to this. The visual scenery is way too stunning - also the story despite some drawbacks makes more sense than the Mad Max scenario of a bunch of harem girls becoming badasses and creating a matriarchal utopia in such a hard world.

Hollywood loves to depict kill or be killed themes as if technological advancement is only possible through total destruction of nature or outright killing of billions of sentient life forms (Jupiter Ascending). The preamble of course is wrong from the onset. An advanced civilization has probably no need of that. Also in Avatar the feminist theme is actually limited and they have not twisted the story to make it all about them.
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admitting they’re threatened by Charlize Theron and Emilia Clarke’s bad-assery, Clarey and his commenters are also agreeing that the media we consume and the stories we tell are hugely important.

No one is threatened by anything - women still fight like shit, drive like shit, invent shit, upkeep civilization like shit. You can depict them however you want - all the moxy in the world won't change jack shit. You still won't see them flocking to STEM degrees, working for years over new inventions, leading platoons into combat or maintaining the pipes of our buildings.

The movies are stupid, because they are about as realistic as showing men who give birth and breastfeed their children. Hollywood depicting those scenes does not make it reality.

Are trailors getting worse ? Avengers, Mad Max and Jurassi World essentially give away everything

Quote: (05-13-2015 12:22 AM)Other Barry Wrote:  

Quote: (05-12-2015 08:37 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It's interesting that Therzon's presence also sunk the movie of Cormac McCarthy's 'The Road' - a story focused on a father and son surviving after an unspecified apocalyptic event and him doing everything he could to keep his son alive: a specifically male story of survival.

I don't about that, AB. I mean that movie just flat out sucked. It was the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked. It just plain sucked.

I couldn't finish watching it. Nothing could save it, in my opinion.

The book is intense and brutal. Damn shame what happened.

The last thing I thought whilst reading it was "This needs more scenes of a bitch whining."

Quote: (05-13-2015 12:55 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

The book is intense and brutal. Damn shame what happened.

Have you read Blood Meridian? It's fantastic.

The Border Trilogy is pretty good, too.

Quote: (05-13-2015 12:41 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

Are trailors getting worse ? Avengers, Mad Max and Jurassi World essentially give away everything

You should (not) see the trailer for this movie. It´s basically the whole story told in little more than two minutes. It really pissed me off when I finished watching it and realized that there is probably not much that they left out. There´s not much mystery anymore: