[Kieran]

I wouldn't say it's the best of all time, but Clipse's Lord Willin' is a seriously underrated album. Pusha T at his best ever, and good production from the Neptunes throughout.

[fokker]

Mac Dre - Young Black Brotha (1993) - first track

Upsurt - Bozdugan (1999) - first track (not counting intro)

(Despite the english title, the lyrics are in Bulgarian)

[Teedub]

(08-31-2014 04:38 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

I wouldn't say it's the best of all time, but Clipse's Lord Willin' is a seriously underrated album. Pusha T at his best ever, and good production from the Neptunes throughout.

Knowledgeable about boxing and hip hop.

[Redwood]

Very hard to choose, but these albums are pretty damn close from the top of my head:

Ab-Soul - Control System
AZ - Doe or Die
Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill, Hello Nasty, The Mix-Up
Big L - Lifestyles ov da Poor & Dangerous
Big Pun - Capital Punishment
Blu & Exile - Below the Heavens, Give Me My Flowers While I Can Still Smell Them
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Cage - Movies for the Blind, Hell's Winter
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Capone-N-Noreaga - The War Report
Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
Dark Time Sunshine - ANX
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Dr. Dre - The Chronic, 2001
El-P - Fantastic Damage, I'll Sleep When You're Dead, Cancer 4 Cure
Eminem - Infinite, Slim Shady EP, The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Piñata
Gang Starr - Daily Operation
Ghostface Killah - Ironman, Supreme Clientele, The Pretty Toney Album, Fishscale, Twelve Reasons to Die
Goodie Mob - Soul Food
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
GZA/Genius - Liquid Swords
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
J Dilla - Donuts
JAY Z - Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, The Black Album
JAY Z & Kanye West - Watch the Throne
Kanye West - Late Registration, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Kendrick Lamar - Section.80, good kid, m.A.A.d city
Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music
KMD - Mr. Hood, Black Bastards
Kool Keith - Dr. Octagonecologyst, First Come, First Served, Black Elvis/Lost in Space
Lootpack - Soundpieces: Da Antidote
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Method Man - Tical
MF DOOM - Operation: Doomsday, MM.. Food
Mobb Deep - The Infamous, Hell on Earth
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Nas - Illmatic, It Was Written, Life Is Good
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, ATLiens, Aquemini, Stankonia, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother, The Main Ingredient
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Pusha T - My Name Is My Name
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... 1 & 2
Redman - Whut? Thee Album, Dare Iz a Darkside, Muddy Waters
Rick Ross - Teflon Don, God Forgives, I Don't, Mastermind
Run the Jewels - self-titled
ScHoolboy Q - Oxymoron
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Tha Alkaholiks - Coast II Coast
The Game - The Documentary
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die, Life After Death
The Roots - Illadelph Halflife
UGK - Super Tight..., Ridin' Dirty, Underground Kingz
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown
Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), Wu-Tang Forever

[azulsombra]

(08-31-2014 01:05 PM)Redwood Wrote:  

Very hard to choose, but these albums are pretty damn close from the top of my head:

Ab-Soul - Control System
AZ - Doe or Die
Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill, Hello Nasty, The Mix-Up
Big L - Lifestyles ov da Poor & Dangerous
Big Pun - Capital Punishment
Blu & Exile - Below the Heavens, Give Me My Flowers While I Can Still Smell Them
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Cage - Movies for the Blind, Hell's Winter
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Capone-N-Noreaga - The War Report
Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
Dark Time Sunshine - ANX
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Dr. Dre - The Chronic, 2001
El-P - Fantastic Damage, I'll Sleep When You're Dead, Cancer 4 Cure
Eminem - Infinite, Slim Shady EP, The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Piñata
Gang Starr - Daily Operation
Ghostface Killah - Ironman, Supreme Clientele, The Pretty Toney Album, Fishscale, Twelve Reasons to Die
Goodie Mob - Soul Food
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
GZA/Genius - Liquid Swords
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
J Dilla - Donuts
JAY Z - Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, The Black Album
JAY Z & Kanye West - Watch the Throne
Kanye West - Late Registration, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Kendrick Lamar - Section.80, good kid, m.A.A.d city
Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music
KMD - Mr. Hood, Black Bastards
Kool Keith - Dr. Octagonecologyst, First Come, First Served, Black Elvis/Lost in Space
Lootpack - Soundpieces: Da Antidote
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Method Man - Tical
MF DOOM - Operation: Doomsday, MM.. Food
Mobb Deep - The Infamous, Hell on Earth
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Nas - Illmatic, It Was Written, Life Is Good
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, ATLiens, Aquemini, Stankonia, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother, The Main Ingredient
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Pusha T - My Name Is My Name
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... 1 & 2
Redman - Whut? Thee Album, Dare Iz a Darkside, Muddy Waters
Rick Ross - Teflon Don, God Forgives, I Don't, Mastermind
Run the Jewels - self-titled
ScHoolboy Q - Oxymoron
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Tha Alkaholiks - Coast II Coast
The Game - The Documentary
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die, Life After Death
The Roots - Illadelph Halflife
UGK - Super Tight..., Ridin' Dirty, Underground Kingz
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown
Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), Wu-Tang Forever

Schoolboy Q...........nah.

The rest of the list looks legit though.

[Parlay44]

House of Pain - Fine Malt Lyrics

[Pride male]

Hip hop in its rawest form conforms with game principles. Depestadalising the pussy, abundance mentality,looking fly, getting money etc etc.

[Killer Joe]

Hands down...




Contains this classic track (as heard on Charlie's Angels, Boiler Room, and nearly every fucking episode of MTV Cribs)

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

All the usual suspects I see...

BUT

Rarely (if any) mention of De La Soul

NO exhaustive hip hop list is complete without "Stakes is High"

Sorry.

[TravelerKai]

I also vote for Illmatic as top spot. NAS has so many great albums cover for cover like It was Written and Stillmatic, Street Disciple and Untitled (Nigger). Even Hip Hop Is Dead was a amazing. I personally think Nas surpassed all over rappers as the best, just by default of being alive and making it further than all the others with a catalog of straight fucking fire one can dig through. Even when cats like JR Writer can come out the gate with amazing flow, they can never do it as long as Nas can and has. Nas outlived Big L too. It's possible that GZA could be a close second but that is debatable against Big L and Bigge/Pac. JayZ is a fucking rhyme biter, anyone thinking he is the best at any category other than money/sales (Dre/Em might have him beat I dunno) is poorly informed on his legacy of biting.

Kingsley if you really want to get technical about it, The South did not kill HipHop. Not first at least, to start nailing in the coffin. One could make a very strong argument that NWA started the beginning of the end. Westcoast started gangsta rap and by nature it is not exactly hiphop to a "T".

If anything it was more Horror-core/Hardcore Rap on par with Mobb Deep and Big L in many ways. All that kind of I don't give a fuck and rejection of positivity and original hiphop elements was the beginning of a new trend. That opened up the pandora's box and the South eventually put the coffin in the ground. Southern rappers like Scarface, The Geto Boys, Luniz, UGK definately did not kill hiphop, but guys like Lil Flip did. The cocaine rappers, like Jeezy basically beat the dead horse that was already dead.

Even NYC rappers helped put hiphop in the ground. As a big Camron and Dipset fan, I must admit, dude was not helping hiphop at all. We all liked and listened to these kinds of rappers as a guilty pleasure. I have a collection of Southern Rap and DJ Screw/Watts mixtapes that range back from ~93 to the mid 2000s, when hiphop had already died by then, and you can tell the difference big time.

Almost all hiphop rappers toyed with the taint that killed hiphop. Rappers like EPMD toyed with bling rap just as much as the next guy. A tribe called Quest, The Roots, Mos Def, and most of those 5 Percenter type rappers kept shit legit for the most part, but where was everyone at when it was time to buy their albums? Money talks.

[RouteBackwards]

Illmatic is flawless. It took the standard hip hop format at the time, and revolutionized it. Gorgeous lyricism, beautiful production and best of all, the album maintains a coherent thematic that many hip hop albums fail to reach. I know it's overstated as fuck to pick Illmatic, but I cannot pick any album, in any genre even, where I felt everything was perfect. Illmatic is an excellent album, and definitely my top pick.

[Redwood]

Torn between Illmatiic and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. Both are definitive masterpieces in their own right and definitely had a part in changing the hip hop landscape in 90s New York.

Amazing production, lyricism, and storytelling all around.

MDP: 3 Feet High and Rising is the better pick in my opinion.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Illmatic is a sexy pick

Few subtle things that happened that made has project accessible to so many

- He utilized mulitple producers (Extra P aka Large Professor, Pete Rock, Primo, LES, Q-Tip)

- Even though those cats all had various production credit to their names they made a concerted effort to bring East Coast hip hop BACK to the forefront, so they submitted their creme de la creme' beats.(West coast had a strong hold by 94') They also made sure to tailor their tracks up to Nas, not vice-versa.

- Nas kept the guest list to 1. AZ was the only other voice you heard, given Nas' 10 full tracks to shine.

Only downside I remember upon copping the CD was it was only 10 songs

*Elzhi's "ELMATIC" is also worthy of a good listen, homage to the original

[TravelerKai]

(09-02-2014 02:27 PM)Redwood Wrote:  

Torn between Illmatiic and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. Both are definitive masterpieces in their own right and definitely had a part in changing the hip hop landscape in 90s New York.

Amazing production, lyricism, and storytelling all around.

MDP: 3 Feet High and Rising is the better pick in my opinion.

Built for Cuban Linx was a fucking masterpiece. It is definitely underrated no doubt. I think it doesn't get the credit it deserves only because Gambino Rap has low appeal outside the East Coast. Ask your average Southerner what a Gambino is, and I doubt you could get more than 5-6/10 to say it was a famous mobster from New York from one of the original families. You won't likely get a Raekwon answer out of those 10 either if you ask for additional references.

That level of quirk is why Raekwon gets less love outside the East for that album. Funny thing is that I have heard brothers in the South sampling beats on many occasion off Cuban Linx and when I ask them where did they get that from, they could never tell me where or who that beat came from. You can often hear "Incarcerated Scarfaces" track beat on MTV shows and radio shows as bumper music to this day.

Another side WuTang side Album on level with this would be the legendary GZA's Liquid Swords. Every song is fire. The lyrics were ahead of it's time as well. The intros and dialogues as well.

Method Man's Tical, either the original or 2000 are amazing but not as good as Liquid Swords or Cuban Linx. I feel like I am missing another Wu Tang side album somehow, but still I contend that Swords and Linx are the top two.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Ok, that third one you are looking for is Ghost's Ironman - picked up where Cuban Linx left off

Remember Ghost had a lot of scorching shit on Cuban Linx and an integral part of why it worked so well - He and Rae were a team

ODB's debut was very solid as well - Return to the 36 Chambers (The Dirty Version), major props need to be given to RZA for 'harnessing' such an colorful talent and producing such a solid gem.

[little wing]

Representin da Illmatic....

Also like The Chronic and Ready To Die but Nas just can't be beaten

[Joga Bonito]

(09-02-2014 02:44 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Built for Cuban Linx was a fucking masterpiece. It is definitely underrated no doubt. I think it doesn't get the credit it deserves only because Gambino Rap has low appeal outside the East Coast. Ask your average Southerner what a Gambino is, and I doubt you could get more than 5-6/10 to say it was a famous mobster from New York from one of the original families. You won't likely get a Raekwon answer out of those 10 either if you ask for additional references.

This is a great point, it really was The Chef that jumped off the whole mafioso rap style around '95. Shortly, thereafter circa '96 we got Reasonable Doubt and It Was Written by Jay and Nas respectively, who really popularized and cemented mafioso rap as a legitimate sub-genre. It really is a joke that Nas caught so much flack for "selling out", just because the beats were a little more mainstream. Tracks like "I Gave You Power", where he raps from the perspective of a gun are simply unparalleled conceptually especially in relation to todays artists. K Lamar is really one of the only modern day artists who is very sound in terms of being a skilled rapper and engaging his audience with dope concepts whether it be skits or songs. Also, who could forget "If I Ruled the World?"

Quote:

Another side WuTang side Album on level with this would be the legendary GZA's Liquid Swords. Every song is fire. The lyrics were ahead of it's time as well. The intros and dialogues as well.

Method Man's Tical, either the original or 2000 are amazing but not as good as Liquid Swords or Cuban Linx. I feel like I am missing another Wu Tang side album somehow, but still I contend that Swords and Linx are the top two.

Supreme Clientele by Ghost is definitely up there though. As an aside, Common's album Be and Like Water for Chocolate, really need to be mentioned among some of hip-hop's greatest works. Capone and Noreaga are also criminally underrated and what they lack in refinement, they more than make up for in gritty rhymes and grim but descriptive storytelling reminiscent of early Mobb Deep when they spit on Infamous for example. War Report is a must check for any hip hop head, as well as The Reunion.

[TravelerKai]

(09-02-2014 03:14 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 02:44 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Built for Cuban Linx was a fucking masterpiece. It is definitely underrated no doubt. I think it doesn't get the credit it deserves only because Gambino Rap has low appeal outside the East Coast. Ask your average Southerner what a Gambino is, and I doubt you could get more than 5-6/10 to say it was a famous mobster from New York from one of the original families. You won't likely get a Raekwon answer out of those 10 either if you ask for additional references.

This is a great point, it really was The Chef that jumped off the whole mafioso rap style around '95. Shortly, thereafter circa '96 we got Reasonable Doubt and It Was Written by Jay and Nas respectively, who really popularized and cemented mafioso rap as a legitimate sub-genre. It really is a joke that Nas caught so much flack for "selling out", just because the beats were a little more mainstream. Tracks like "I Gave You Power", where he raps from the perspective of a gun are simply unparalleled conceptually especially in relation to todays artists. K Lamar is really one of the only modern day artists who is very sound in terms of being a skilled rapper and engaging his audience with dope concepts whether it be skits or songs. Also, who could forget "If I Ruled the World?"

Quote:

Another side WuTang side Album on level with this would be the legendary GZA's Liquid Swords. Every song is fire. The lyrics were ahead of it's time as well. The intros and dialogues as well.

Method Man's Tical, either the original or 2000 are amazing but not as good as Liquid Swords or Cuban Linx. I feel like I am missing another Wu Tang side album somehow, but still I contend that Swords and Linx are the top two.

Supreme Clientele by Ghost is definitely up there though. As an aside, Common's album Be and Like Water for Chocolate, really need to be mentioned among some of hip-hop's greatest works. Capone and Noreaga are also criminally underrated and what they lack in refinement, they more than make up for in gritty rhymes and grim but descriptive storytelling reminiscent of early Mobb Deep when they spit on Infamous for example. War Report is a must check for any hip hop head, as well as The Reunion.

Well said! Nas' uses of imagery were second to none back in that time. Nas is like watching an episode of Boondocks. On the surface, you just hear words like Nigga and other "cool" shit being thrown around, but a better educated observer can catch the irony, the subtly, the word play, etc. going waaay deeper subject wise. Your average cats in a barbershop laughing about a Boondocks episode usually only cares about the nigga jokes. The same rings true when you ask them about Nas. They love the beats in Stillmatic for example, but cannot breakdown verse by verse the Ether diss on JayZ and what each line meant. If anyone says Ether was wack, it is because it was not a FUCK YOU JayZ, I fucked your bitch in her azz, etc. kind of diss. It was an artistic undressing of a wannabe emperor to be shown naked in the middle of Times Square without hardly any curse words. It was personal and genius at the same time. The fact that Jigga even said Nas got him good, is proof enough.

Common is really great. Like Water for Chocolate deserves a very high mention for sure. That whole album was crazy. Be not so much in my opinion, but it was still a great album. His albums are never good all the way through. He always was a little too afrocentric soul singer-ish for most people's tastes, which is unfortunate because tracks like "Heat" off Like Water for Chocolate" showed that he can throw down hard on some lyrics. Mos Def has the same issues. Blackstar was legendary as fuck though. That whole album was pure fire from the beginning to the end. I don't know if anyone else mentioned that as well yet, but that duo made a strong case. Talib by himself overall is a little bit weak vs. rapping with Mos Def together.

[Joga Bonito]

(09-02-2014 03:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:14 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 02:44 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Built for Cuban Linx was a fucking masterpiece. It is definitely underrated no doubt. I think it doesn't get the credit it deserves only because Gambino Rap has low appeal outside the East Coast. Ask your average Southerner what a Gambino is, and I doubt you could get more than 5-6/10 to say it was a famous mobster from New York from one of the original families. You won't likely get a Raekwon answer out of those 10 either if you ask for additional references.

This is a great point, it really was The Chef that jumped off the whole mafioso rap style around '95. Shortly, thereafter circa '96 we got Reasonable Doubt and It Was Written by Jay and Nas respectively, who really popularized and cemented mafioso rap as a legitimate sub-genre. It really is a joke that Nas caught so much flack for "selling out", just because the beats were a little more mainstream. Tracks like "I Gave You Power", where he raps from the perspective of a gun are simply unparalleled conceptually especially in relation to todays artists. K Lamar is really one of the only modern day artists who is very sound in terms of being a skilled rapper and engaging his audience with dope concepts whether it be skits or songs. Also, who could forget "If I Ruled the World?"

Quote:

Another side WuTang side Album on level with this would be the legendary GZA's Liquid Swords. Every song is fire. The lyrics were ahead of it's time as well. The intros and dialogues as well.

Method Man's Tical, either the original or 2000 are amazing but not as good as Liquid Swords or Cuban Linx. I feel like I am missing another Wu Tang side album somehow, but still I contend that Swords and Linx are the top two.

Supreme Clientele by Ghost is definitely up there though. As an aside, Common's album Be and Like Water for Chocolate, really need to be mentioned among some of hip-hop's greatest works. Capone and Noreaga are also criminally underrated and what they lack in refinement, they more than make up for in gritty rhymes and grim but descriptive storytelling reminiscent of early Mobb Deep when they spit on Infamous for example. War Report is a must check for any hip hop head, as well as The Reunion.

Well said! Nas' uses of imagery were second to none back in that time. Nas is like watching an episode of Boondocks. On the surface, you just hear words like Nigga and other "cool" shit being thrown around, but a better educated observer can catch the irony, the subtly, the word play, etc. going waaay deeper subject wise. Your average cats in a barbershop laughing about a Boondocks episode usually only cares about the nigga jokes. The same rings true when you ask them about Nas. They love the beats in Stillmatic for example, but cannot breakdown verse by verse the Ether diss on JayZ and what each line meant. If anyone says Ether was wack, it is because it was not a FUCK YOU JayZ, I fucked your bitch in her azz, etc. kind of diss. It was an artistic undressing of a wannabe emperor to be shown naked in the middle of Times Square without hardly any curse words. It was personal and genius at the same time. The fact that Jigga even said Nas got him good, is proof enough.

Common is really great. Like Water for Chocolate deserves a very high mention for sure. That whole album was crazy. Be not so much in my opinion, but it was still a great album. His albums are never good all the way through. He always was a little too afrocentric soul singer-ish for most people's tastes, which is unfortunate because tracks like "Heat" off Like Water for Chocolate" showed that he can throw down hard on some lyrics. Mos Def has the same issues. Blackstar was legendary as fuck though. That whole album was pure fire from the beginning to the end. I don't know if anyone else mentioned that as well yet, but that duo made a strong case. Talib by himself overall is a little bit weak vs. rapping with Mos Def together.

Yeah, your first paragraph really rings true and I think that in large part is why sites like Rap Genius are so popular nowadays. Hip Hop is essentially the last vestige of unabashed masculinity from a young Black mans perspective(for better or worse). The rub is that this said music is consumed by many types of people that cannot relate or are not in any way connected with the bastions of hip-hop/rap which are usually poor neighborhoods. Then there's the aspect of guys like Jay and Nas being so talented and having such a deep breadth of knowledge over a wide range of subjects that the metaphors and references that they draw can be very esoteric and obscure to an uninformed listener, this has been especially true as they have gotten older. Nas especially is known for this and this was illustrated in The Takeover when Jay tries to hammer Nas on "kicking knowledge", which essentially assails him for being intellectual, which was frowned upon during that period in hip-hop.

Like you said though Nas punches just a bit harder, take these bars for example, where he pulls his in then rips him a new one:

Quote:

What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother/
You traded your soul for riches/
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous/
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it/
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women/
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?"

He's not just saying "fuckboy" 20 times like Ross did when he was dissing Jeezy, but he was really appealing to Jay's insecurities and going for the jugular which makes the diss that much more potent. I still don't think Jay has recovered and he kinda comes off as a more sensitive guy perhaps due to his upbringing of being abandoned by his pops. Nas on the other hand is that low-key observant guy that if you piss off has all the dirt to really expose you.

To relate back to your barbershop example, its not only illustrated in your example regarding Stillmatic, but I've seen it more and more as this whole luxury rap sub-genre. When Watch the Throne dropped cats were lost like, "What the fuck is a Warhol?" or "What the fuck is a Basquiat?" and its because rap had never been associated with those things but Jay and Kanye kinda took it to that next level. It was in large part why alot of cats I talked to didn't really rock with the album because they couldn't relate to it and felt that Jay and Ye really got away from their roots. There's no comparison to The College Dropout or In My Lifetime, but I suppose you could just chalk that up to both artists being at different places in life. It was a very polarizing album. Jay said it best on "On to the Next One" when he rapped, "N***** want my old shit, buy my old albums" haha.

I'm also not sure how I forgot Blackstar, very classic album. I also forgot to mention a few Southern classics like Juvenile, 400 Degreez or Scarface, The Fix and The Diary, the list is really endless.

[Kieran]

Good shout on Blackstar. Re Talib Kweli, the Reflection Eternal Train of Thought album is pretty solid too, although I do find his voice a little annoying sometimes.

[Redwood]

Ghost gets brutal.

[Rigsby]

Not really a CD, but you fellas all listen on your computers these days, right?

Pete Rock Unreleased Beats album part 1

Taking it up my brothers:

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Straighten It Out

Pete Rock And C.L. Smooth - The Creator

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.) (Video)

I'm leaving the best for last:

Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Lethal Weapon (Demo 1989)

You won't hear that on any CD, and I'd be impressed if you didn't think this stuff was the bollocks.

Pete Rock. Grand Master. C L Smooth. The most under rated rapper ever.

[Rigsby]

I think the idea is, you make a tune out of his beats. You have a massive hit. He sues your arse/ass off. You both come to some kind of agreement.

Cheeky, but effective.

Just listen to the the last one - Lethal Weapon (Demo 1989) - it ends a bit abruptly, but it is the best thing they never released.

One more time.

Reminds me of LL Cool J in his flow.

[Redwood]

"You were a still born baby, mother didn't want you, but you were still born."

Powerful.

[Rigsby]

Let hip hop have its flow.

It's good that you do this Roosh.

But everyone is screaming too loud. Look at me.


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