[misterstir]

I'm tired of people indicating that women are more smart or socially more advanced than men. Its called spin, and this spin was invented by feminist to explain their inferior behaviour.

-If women are so socially smarter than men, then why are we all aware of so many women who are used by dead beat men to pay their bills etc.

-Women rarely or almost never pick up men or go start conversations
with men who they are interested in, this is called shyness, and is a form of social retardation. How is a social retard smarter than someone who approaches every now and then.

-A bitch shield comes from lack of social skills. A woman with social skills, or be it any person, would be able to have a conversation with a stranger in such a way it was clear they did not want to have sex with them but without being rude or running away.

-I've been approached by women... but none of them have been particularly good approaches. At best they screamed beta, were done half assly and often they involve them touching me or saying something then running away in shyness. They all lacked confidence and they almost always backed away or backed down. The only truly good approach I can think of is by this group of Jamaican Canadian girls followed an Indian girl but here approach was indirect and still less confident.

-If women were smarter than men there would not be all those women claiming they can't find good men. If women were so smart they'd go find their magical good men.

-I often hear many men claim o women are smart they can see what you want as soon as you approach them and start talking. These men are right and wrong. They are right on the later but wrong on the former. They cannot see what you want as soon as you approach them because they have jedi mind senses that men don't, they can see it for the same reason why when you see a homeless man with a cup approaching you on the subway, you know what he is coming for and already have your excuse ready by the time he comes to you. If you ever been approached by a woman, you'd see it is just as equally clear why she is approaching you. If she is talking to you about anything that takes more than 30 seconds to explain (like directions) then she probably is approaching you for sex.

-One might conclude that the above paragraph shows women are smarter because they are more intuned to see and agree with the above, wrong! Women are more likely to be approached because they are shy and lack social skills to begin with, therefore less men are approached as a result. But it is way harder to be relfective objectively on ones own actions than it is to be judgemental of anothers.

-I'll believe women are smarter than men (socially), when you dress up a group of women like men, and see how poorly they do with women in the average night club. How many people are you going to pick up when you don't approach anyone = 0.

-Would one say a child who is shy and does not approach people and if people approach him he is rude to, would people say he is socially intelligent because he knows that anyone who approaches him wants to talk to him and therefore takes proactive actions to engage in social subterfuge to prevent any social interaction.

-The qualities use to describe proof of women's intelligence: like manipulation, boredom (which is why game says you must be entertaining to game women), parasitic lifestyle (gold diggers), lack of realistic expectations (marrying a rich prince when virtually none exist in the country, wanting a rich man who is home all the time and who only wants to have sex with her), impulsive (Which is why its easy to game them but they'll want to regret it later), irresponsibility (self explained), behavioural problems (self explained), etc. these describe psychotic and women with anti social personality women. Unfortunately these attributes are widespread throughout Western women, so game will give you a guide on how to play on their psychopathcy like their impulsiveness. However that doesn't make them smart, it makes them have a mental disease. I don't see how having dissocial personality disorder and an antisocial disease makes one intelligent. Only someone who believe in feminist propaganda be it direct or indirect could believe that. And with all the manginas like dr. phil running around out there claiming that women are more socially advanced than men, I could see how one could pick up such a belief.

-I fail to see how woman can be more socially advanced than men when the men they seek deep down are always socially looked down upon bad boys ie. men who clearly lack social skills and have admittingly been expelled by society like bikers, gang bangers, guys with gold tooth or men in prison etc (not to hate on the guy witht gold tooth... just saying). If women are more socially advanced it would hold that they'd want men on their level or better, but thats not what I see, I see Scott Peterson getting 100s of mail from women wanting to fuck him on a daily basis because he is expelled from society and is in prison.

-I'm in my early 20s, and to find a woman who I can speak to who has some level of maturity, I have to go for girls in their late 20s and the saying "some people grow up, and some people just grow older" really holds true in the west.

-If women are so smart, why do so many of them go and get pregnant by guys they don't know and can never find after sex. If they were smart they'd never have one night stand without contraception with men they don't know when they are ovulating like Casey Anthony.

-Most of all it doesn't even matter if women are smarter than men because it takes on average for most women to reach early 20s to figure out how to use their vbagineys to manipulate men properly. You go for teen girls 16+ and you'll find easy horny girls who don't know that vagina is valuable and dick is free, once she does drop her and find a new and equally dumb girl. In fact, having a car and access to alcohol and cigarettes will be enough to pretty much get you sex from any girl that age who is going to give you sex. Its fair to say that if those 3 and a bit of game/social skills + persistence don't get you sex it ain't going to happen and move on.

-For me it works perfectly, thanks to my latest thread banging 16 y/os I recently remembered there is a high school right beside a major mall full of them and they all wear uniforms, I also remembered one where they all go to a mcdonalds near it and are open to gaming, they are also good to score weed off of because there is zero chance of them being a cop.
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[Tuthmosis]

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[misterstir]

Ok I'll make more spacing

[gds555]

Regarding women's lack of social skills for forming relationships with men, and your desire to see women dress up as men and experience what approaching women in a nightclub is like, I think you'd enjoy the 2006 book Self Made Man by Norah Vincent. Vincent is a tall, slightly masculine-looking lesbian who spent roughly a year intermittently disguising herself as a man, including going on dates with women and approaching women in nightclubs, in order to experience the life of American men through a woman's sensibility. She ended up with an increased sympathy for men, and came to many of the same conclusions about American women's typical social intelligence that you do. A fascinating and entertaining book.

[misterstir]

^Doesn't surprise me, women always try to hide and spin all their weaknesses as strengths.

[cibo]

The fact most people believe this shit says women are at least good at convincing people of bullshit.

[Anon-A-Moose]

My response to the title of this thread: no shit.

I didn't even need to read it.

[Roosh]

Sounds like you're talking about social intelligence.

[Goldin Boy]

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I'm tired of people indicating that women are more smart or socially more advanced than men. Its called spin, and this spin was invented by feminist to explain their inferior behaviour.

You're preaching to the choir here. If you haven't already check out Arthur Schopenhauer's essay "On Women".

No major inventions have been created by women. No nation has ever been founded or discovered by a woman.

Imo the pattern for human history is basically: Men take a chance and find/build/conceptualize something that is successful and women follow behind and reap the benefits once the hard work is done.

Every brick in my house was put there by a man. Girls achieve whatever men allow them to. Feminism has lead them to forget their precarious position in society.

[Skyhigh]

Women are much better socially than men. How many women have used Men and played them like a fiddle with the man not seeing it come (IE: Divorce)? Women are much better at manipulation which is why I'm always scared. Why is that Men always miss the subtle signs women throw out there to show she is interested?

[MrXY]

You are right that women are dumb in a lot of ways that men find important.
But don't kid yourself- they are amazingly, almost supernaturally intelligent in certain ways relevant to assessing a man's mate value and extracting resources from men.
Millions of years of evolution have imbued them with these skills, which are more akin to a sixth sense than what men would call intelligence, by which men mean capacities that are rationally based.
This is why it is so difficult to fake confidence or "alphaness" that you do not actually feel. Somehow women pick up on facial expressions,voice tone, and body language at a micro level that betray the true nature of the poser. These cues are hard to fake precisely because they are so subtle. Hence, the emphasis on developing inner game in addition to practicing specific techniques. You will find that once the inner game improves, the techniques come much more naturally, and eventually, to some degree, cease to be " techniques" at all, they become just how you normally present yourself.
Similarly, as others have noted-women seem to be able to somehow sense that you have had recently had success at banging women.
I strongly believe that the sense of smell plays a strong role in all this that is yet undiscovered by science. I recall a study which found that people can actually smell which potential mates have an immune system which was the best to combine with their own to have the healthiest children. Another found that men can detect which women are ovulating by scent on their clothes alone.
I think women can somehow smell "alpha" perhaps they are smelling levels of testosterone, serotonin, dopamine, etc. Women's intelligence or better yet, instinct, in matters that are relevant to Game should never be taken for granted.

[misterstir]

^And then people say I am preaching to the converted. I'd say most of the long time posters here are converted, but everyone once in a while I see comments like Skyhighs.
-So now one is considered to have good social skills if they can use others, play them like a fiddle and have the other person not see it coming (like divorce rape). The reality is that these qualities are indicative of someone with a psychological disease or disorder, I do not see how having an anti social disease, or an anti social personality disorder makes one socially superior. That is this is not normal behaviour, in fact it is strange and perverse behaviour. And even if I do use your criteria that whoever is the mass manipulater is the better social person, then it stands to reason men are light years ahead of women, because virtually all the top propagandist in history and present have been male politicians and male elite business leaders. And I can't think of anyone more manipulative than those 2 groups. If women are correct that they receive unequal pay for similar work, then it means men have been very good at manipulating almost all of them. The grand irony of course is the only highly succesful business women are the ones who have personalities very much like men, which of course is why many of them never stay married.

-Women's manipulation is that of an extreme infantile level, like that of a child as far as I can see. I always hear criticism of grown child men, but I see grown child women far more prevalent. Just like the baby who cries for attention or the 3 year old who throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his ways, these are manipulation techniques that adults give into often but it by no means makes these kids social superior. In fact a psychologist would term this kid as having rage issues and needing to put this kid under control. Given how stubborn and hard headed Western women are its not worth teaching the vast majority of them anything, and you're better off just moving on to one who listens to you.

-Women can only manipulate you because you are scared, if you put them in their place or dump their ass, you'd have nothing to be scared of.

"Why is that Men always miss the subtle signs women throw out there to show she is interested?"
-I love questions like this. That's the wrong question, the right question would be why do women use only subtle signs to show men they are interested? My answer would be lack of social development and social retardation. This is just an extension of shyness. Besides what good is a subtle sign of interest if the other gender has no clue what your doing. Furthermore not even women are able to detect each others subtle signs often because they never have to engage in pick up therefore it would hold that they would be unused to recognizing these signs, and they may even be unaware when they are doing them. In fact I distinctly recall an old female professor I had once saying this is not a Harlequin romance novel (whatever the hell that is) I can't determine what you are thinking just by the look on your face. This shows to me that men are at the very least far better at interpreting this kind of behavior and therefore socially superior.

Further if/when men do detect these subtle signs, it simply shows men are socially superior because only men are capable of detecting these subtle signs that very from female to female but not even other females are aware of.

IMO, the ideal social superior person would have to be extroverted and willing to talk to strangers of both genders, and that is just so rare among women. When the average north american women (90%+)would not even approach a man they don't know, then they wonder why women cannot make it into political office when campaigning is all about approaching mostly men you don't know (most of the political power brokers/donors are men).
Or how about put the shoe on the other foot, why don't women pick up on men's subtle signs that they are interested and why are they so socially stunted that they refuse to act on clear IOIs?

[iknowexactly]

I'm in the "no major inventions" camp; but also "no major genocides" by women to be fair; assholes like Hitler and Mao made an awful lot more people miserable than any 1000 women.

Also, I believe women can read more different facial expressions and distinguish more colors than men.

Here's a picture of the other side of male greatness and heroism; Einsatzgruppen in WW2 killing a woman civilian and child.

Ordered by a man, carried out by a man.

Of course, how many chicks in Germany would've gladly fucked Hitler if he hadn't been too sick to want it.

[Goldin Boy]

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Why is that Men always miss the subtle signs women throw out there to show she is interested?

Imo women use subtle signs to save face if the guy doesn't like them.

Example: I was in my local mall the other day. This girl (a 3) whistled at me like a construction worker to get my attention. I ignored the first time but the second time I turned to her and said: "No, you're fat.". She said "What?" like she didn't hear me. I repeated myself and she just stared at me like I was speaking Spanish. It was like she couldn't mentally process she just got blown out.

That's also why there's no such thing as a female pua.

[BortimusPrime]

This social retardation of which you speak is just a function of how able a person is to get what they want with the minimum necessary amount of charisma. Pretty girls don't approach or have anything interesting to say because they get positive attention regardless. Think about it, if you went out to a bar and women were already throwing themselves at you, would you bother trying to say anything interesting to impress them? If you were used to 99% of women being willing to fuck you no matter how you act, when you approached wouldn't it be easier to just poke the girl in the arm and let her take it from there, or have your friend go do it for you in order to eliminate all possiblity of rejection?

I imagine that if the vast majority of men weren't pathetic betas who rewarded negative behavior with attention, you'd find the women would rapidly adapt and become better behaved.

[lurker123123]

(01-29-2012 04:47 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

This social retardation of which you speak is just a function of how able a person is to get what they want with the minimum necessary amount of charisma. Pretty girls don't approach or have anything interesting to say because they get positive attention regardless. Think about it, if you went out to a bar and women were already throwing themselves at you, would you bother trying to say anything interesting to impress them? If you were used to 99% of women being willing to fuck you no matter how you act, when you approached wouldn't it be easier to just poke the girl in the arm and let her take it from there, or have your friend go do it for you in order to eliminate all possiblity of rejection?

I imagine that if the vast majority of men weren't pathetic betas who rewarded negative behavior with attention, you'd find the women would rapidly adapt and become better behaved.

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[misterstir]

(01-29-2012 03:42 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

Quote:

Why is that Men always miss the subtle signs women throw out there to show she is interested?

Imo women use subtle signs to save face if the guy doesn't like them.

Example: I was in my local mall the other day. This girl (a 3) whistled at me like a construction worker to get my attention. I ignored the first time but the second time I turned to her and said: "No, you're fat.". She said "What?" like she didn't hear me. I repeated myself and she just stared at me like I was speaking Spanish. It was like she couldn't mentally process she just got blown out.

That's also why there's no such thing as a female pua.

Ha ha ha, you da man. always so no to drugs and fatties. Women use subtle signs as you correctly point out because they are too scared to be rejected outright.

The closest thing to female pick up artist are woman who teach woman how to "get" men too approach them. Maybe men should come up with a new game that involves getting women to approach them, sure seems a hell of a lot easier and involves no skill.

[misterstir]

(01-29-2012 03:37 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I'm in the "no major inventions" camp; but also "no major genocides" by women to be fair; assholes like Hitler and Mao made an awful lot more people miserable than any 1000 women.

Also, I believe women can read more different facial expressions and distinguish more colors than men.

Here's a picture of the other side of male greatness and heroism; Einsatzgruppen in WW2 killing a woman civilian and child.

Ordered by a man, carried out by a man.

Of course, how many chicks in Germany would've gladly fucked Hitler if he hadn't been too sick to want it.

If I recall correctly Hitler's dad was a dead beat and he was raised by his mother... so just goes to show you how smart women are.

The real reason why women aren't in the army is because you have to be able to carry something like 50-60 pounds. And when even a tall (5,8) women who are fit don't weigh much more 120 pounds, you'd have someone carrying half their weight. What's a girl who is 5'0 going to do carry 60 pounds when she was 100-90?

[misterstir]

(01-29-2012 04:47 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

This social retardation of which you speak is just a function of how able a person is to get what they want with the minimum necessary amount of charisma. Pretty girls don't approach or have anything interesting to say because they get positive attention regardless. Think about it, if you went out to a bar and women were already throwing themselves at you, would you bother trying to say anything interesting to impress them? If you were used to 99% of women being willing to fuck you no matter how you act, when you approached wouldn't it be easier to just poke the girl in the arm and let her take it from there, or have your friend go do it for you in order to eliminate all possiblity of rejection?

I imagine that if the vast majority of men weren't pathetic betas who rewarded negative behavior with attention, you'd find the women would rapidly adapt and become better behaved.

I do agree with the last part.

But the reality is men are always being the one pressured/told to improve, women are doing nothing on their end to improve, and it sure would not hurt if men said publicly women need to lose weight just like how they don't mind saying o he needs to cut his hair, or shave etc. The only place where I know of this occurs is in porn, where men publicly say o she needs a boob job, lip job, etc.

As for the approach thing. O hot girls get lots of guys approaching them, but lots of them are what we see as the equivalent of fatties. My bet is the equivalent male 9 would not even need to club because he'd have such a large social circle and a non stop pussy rampage coming at him he'd never need to club much.

[Hotwheels]

(01-29-2012 09:27 PM)misterstir Wrote:  

(01-29-2012 03:37 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I'm in the "no major inventions" camp; but also "no major genocides" by women to be fair; assholes like Hitler and Mao made an awful lot more people miserable than any 1000 women.

Also, I believe women can read more different facial expressions and distinguish more colors than men.

Here's a picture of the other side of male greatness and heroism; Einsatzgruppen in WW2 killing a woman civilian and child.

Ordered by a man, carried out by a man.

Of course, how many chicks in Germany would've gladly fucked Hitler if he hadn't been too sick to want it.

If I recall correctly Hitler's dad was a dead beat and he was raised by his mother... so just goes to show you how smart women are.

The real reason why women aren't in the army is because you have to be able to carry something like 50-60 pounds. And when even a tall (5,8) women who are fit don't weigh much more 120 pounds, you'd have someone carrying half their weight. What's a girl who is 5'0 going to do carry 60 pounds when she was 100-90?

Hitler's dad was 48 when he married his 25 year old wife. Of course since they were second cousins that may have had something to do with his mental stability...

His dad died when he was young, but he wasn't a deadbeat from what I have read.

And there are loads of women in the US Army. Even some female Marines.

I don't think they SHOULD be, but they are.

[PDX]

And have you seen them play basketball? They can't even dunk! What a bunch of idiots.