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7 Lessons from Europe
#51
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Quote: (01-29-2012 01:23 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  

There was a hot girl who I wanted to bang, but she spoke no english, and I spoke no french.

...and this prevented you from fucking her why? Cuz 90% of all French girls I have fucked spoke 0 English.

Mixx
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#52
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Quote: (01-29-2012 01:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (01-29-2012 01:23 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  

There was a hot girl who I wanted to bang, but she spoke no english, and I spoke no french.

...and this prevented you from fucking her why? Cuz 90% of all French girls I have fucked spoke 0 English.

Mixx

You're right, it's a "game" problem, not a "language" one.
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#53
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Quote: (01-29-2012 12:45 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote:Hencredible casanova Wrote:

Also, they are hard to get

man, this is where you lost me. French girls have been the easiest lays for me throughout my player life! Easier than latin women.

Granted, I have NEVER been to France, but French-Canadian, and French girls in Miami (or anywhere else I've run into them) are about as easy at it gets for me. Usually, I'm having sex with them only after about 3 hrs of our first encounter! At most 3rd date tops!!!

I speak very basic French. I've had a huge fear that going to France or Montreal would ruin this "French girls are easy" mantra I've had all my life.

Why do you say they are hard to get? Keep in mind I know very basic French.

Mixx

When I was 20 years old, I did a "case study" of sorts.

I spent 5 months in Spain (Barcelona).

I spent 4 months in France (Biarritz).

My Spanish was way better than my French.

I swooped way more French girls than Spanish girls.


Read into this however you like.
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#54
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Quote: (01-29-2012 01:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (01-29-2012 01:23 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  

There was a hot girl who I wanted to bang, but she spoke no english, and I spoke no french.

...and this prevented you from fucking her why?

Stop talking, Start fucking [Image: kermit.gif]
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#55
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Quote: (01-28-2012 10:09 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I actually know this cool Polish chick in Miami Beach. She took me to Boteco, that Brazilian bar, for salsa night one time. She LOVES latin culture. Spent mad time traveling around Latin America and said that the culture and vibrant way of life is very similar to Polish culture. Latin brothers would do VERY WELL in Poland without question.

I hear Chicago has the largest population of Polish descendants of any city after Warsaw. I'd figure at this point, most of them have been completely Americanized, but maybe there's some room for hope.

Does anyone have any intel on Polish/Polish-American chicks from the Chi?

I have family in Chicago (Irish side) and many of them have married Polish guys or girls (depending on girl cousins or guy cousins of course).

From what I know, the Polish population is completely Americanized.

As much as the Irish.

There may be a whole "freshly arrived" crowd that I am not familiar with.

Maybe some of the Chicago Playboys can weigh in.
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#56
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Quote: (01-29-2012 12:45 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote:Hencredible casanova Wrote:

Also, they are hard to get

man, this is where you lost me. French girls have been the easiest lays for me throughout my player life! Easier than latin women.

Granted, I have NEVER been to France, but French-Canadian, and French girls in Miami (or anywhere else I've run into them) are about as easy at it gets for me. Usually, I'm having sex with them only after about 3 hrs of our first encounter! At most 3rd date tops!!!

I speak very basic French. I've had a huge fear that going to France or Montreal would ruin this "French girls are easy" mantra I've had all my life.

Why do you say they are hard to get? Keep in mind I know very basic French.

Mixx

I'm talking about Paris, which is where I spent most of my time in France. Canadian girls from Quebec are no problem. I love Montreal which is why I'm going back this summer. But Paris is a tough place to get a real French chick. Many of the girls there don't speak English and they are very pretentious.

I saw Luckystar say how Paris was the best city for day game. I would assume he at least speaks French.
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#57
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Quote: (01-29-2012 02:15 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (01-29-2012 12:45 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote:Hencredible casanova Wrote:

Also, they are hard to get

man, this is where you lost me. French girls have been the easiest lays for me throughout my player life! Easier than latin women.

Granted, I have NEVER been to France, but French-Canadian, and French girls in Miami (or anywhere else I've run into them) are about as easy at it gets for me. Usually, I'm having sex with them only after about 3 hrs of our first encounter! At most 3rd date tops!!!

I speak very basic French. I've had a huge fear that going to France or Montreal would ruin this "French girls are easy" mantra I've had all my life.

Why do you say they are hard to get? Keep in mind I know very basic French.

Mixx

When I was 20 years old, I did a "case study" of sorts.

I spent 5 months in Spain (Barcelona).

I spent 4 months in France (Biarritz).

My Spanish was way better than my French.

I swooped way more French girls than Spanish girls.


Read into this however you like.

I never been to the Atlantic coast of France, but I would assume it's normal over there. I meant Paris when I said French girls are hard.
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#58
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Paris is not France. Think of it as a culture of its own.
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#59
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I would like to build a wall around France and fill it with water.

Ill bring my own bucket if need be [Image: smile.gif]
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#60
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In my opinion Paris has a very snobbish and pretentious atmosphere. People have that "whoever you are I'm just better than you" attitude. Funnily enough Parisians are much more friendly when they're outside of Paris.

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I never been to the Atlantic coast of France, but I would assume it's normal over there. I meant Paris when I said French girls are hard.

The Atlantic coast actually has a lot of very good places for the summer. Besides the Biarritz area, I also recommend the Ile de Ré. It's a small island on the Atlantic where middle/upper class girls from cities like Paris and all over France go in the summer. The whole island gets overcrowded in July/August. It's a very classy place and people are much more friendly than in the Mediterranean South. Tons of tourists from Germany and the Netherlands too.
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#61
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Quote: (01-30-2012 09:15 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

I would like to build a wall around France and fill it with water.

Ill bring my own bucket if need be [Image: smile.gif]

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#62
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Mofo, while some are ok, the vast majority of Frenchmen I have met piss me off no end. Everything from the high and mighty belief of superior culture to the condescending attitudes that seem ingrained in them. Everywhere from business to travel, I can count on one hand the number of Frenchmen I have time for. I dont know what it is, but for me as an Australian, its a culture clash of extreme proportions I think. They often behave in a way that is the polar opposite of what we find acceptable. So its a generalisation and needs to be taken as such, but one from an uncultured simpleton who thinks them snooty, pretentious, feminine weaklings.

Like I say, if ever the world wakes up to the blight that is the French and wishes to build a wall around the place and fill it with water, they know they can count on me to pitch up with my bucket so I can help them fill it [Image: smile.gif]
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#63
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That's a bit surprising
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#64
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Quote: (01-30-2012 10:10 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Mofo, while some are ok, the vast majority of Frenchmen I have met piss me off no end. Everything from the high and mighty belief of superior culture to the condescending attitudes that seem ingrained in them. Everywhere from business to travel, I can count on one hand the number of Frenchmen I have time for. I dont know what it is, but for me as an Australian, its a culture clash of extreme proportions I think. They often behave in a way that is the polar opposite of what we find acceptable. So its a generalisation and needs to be taken as such, but one from an uncultured simpleton who thinks them snooty, pretentious, feminine weaklings.

Like I say, if ever the world wakes up to the blight that is the French and wishes to build a wall around the place and fill it with water, they know they can count on me to pitch up with my bucket so I can help them fill it [Image: smile.gif]

How is your French?

As good as your Russian?

Do you put them same effort into adapting and understanding French culture as you do too Russian culture?

Quote: (01-30-2012 08:47 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Many of the girls there don't speak English and they are very pretentious.

Are they "pretentious" to you while you are speaking French to them?
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#65
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Interesting read here about French . I was with a anglophone girl this saturday and we talk about the difference in the 2 cultures and I always appear to be really rude to them in general . For my perspective I find anglophone people in general are to gentle and sensetive and that's annoy me a lot . I think like Harry said it's a clash of culture and to be accostum to or undersand the other culture you have to surpass your barrier . Anyways Like other here said Paris do not represent France and other francophone country . I have familly in Marseille and Aix-En-Provence and they are not like parisian at all . Someone have been there ? Maybe they can put some info form there it's a nice place .
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#66
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Plenty.

Been on holiday once, so have experienced what the South of France has to offer. Went on a rugby tour there about 6/7 years before that, and that was a 3 week trip in the south of France again. Also, a lot of the French banks invest heavily in Africa and Eastern Europe, so I have dealt with them a great deal and have had to actually go there for business, which would see me stuck there for a week at a time in many cases sometimes more. As I say, its an extreme culture clash on my part and I find their general demeanour and attitude poor. The rest of the world can dream of seeing Paris, I think its an expensive, overrated city full of people up its own arse and a million tourists who are despised by the locals.

Sorry mate, I find it over rated as a whole. The south of France is beautiful, but it will never see me again. As for Paris and Lyon, Ill go only by gun point. They dont need my money or time, I dont need their manners or attitude. Have such a strong dislike for the place I wont even connect through their airports.

It clearly appeals to a lot of people though. Paris gets more tourists than any other city in the world, but its certainly not for me. Dont take this personally if you are French, people think my little Perth is a boring hole and I think them insane too [Image: smile.gif]
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#67
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Quote: (01-30-2012 10:46 AM)Alfonzo Wrote:  

Interesting read here about French . I was with a anglophone girl this saturday and we talk about the difference in the 2 cultures and I always appear to be really rude to them in general . For my perspective I find anglophone people in general are to gentle and sensetive and that's annoy me a lot . I think like Harry said it's a clash of culture and to be accostum to or undersand the other culture you have to surpass your barrier . Anyways Like other here said Paris do not represent France and other francophone country . I have familly in Marseille and Aix-En-Provence and they are not like parisian at all . Someone have been there ? Maybe they can put some info form there it's a nice place .

My closest friend is French and speaks French fluently. He hates Parisians but loves the South (Montpellier especially).
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#68
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Don't appologies your are to gentle [Image: wink.gif] It's in your right to don't like the french culture . I have the same issue at the opposite . Do you have the same kind of issues with other latin country? like Italian,Greek,Spanish ?
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#69
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Quote: (01-30-2012 10:36 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (01-30-2012 10:10 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Mofo, while some are ok, the vast majority of Frenchmen I have met piss me off no end. Everything from the high and mighty belief of superior culture to the condescending attitudes that seem ingrained in them. Everywhere from business to travel, I can count on one hand the number of Frenchmen I have time for. I dont know what it is, but for me as an Australian, its a culture clash of extreme proportions I think. They often behave in a way that is the polar opposite of what we find acceptable. So its a generalisation and needs to be taken as such, but one from an uncultured simpleton who thinks them snooty, pretentious, feminine weaklings.

Like I say, if ever the world wakes up to the blight that is the French and wishes to build a wall around the place and fill it with water, they know they can count on me to pitch up with my bucket so I can help them fill it [Image: smile.gif]

How is your French?

As good as your Russian?

Do you put them same effort into adapting and understanding French culture as you do too Russian culture?

Quote: (01-30-2012 08:47 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Many of the girls there don't speak English and they are very pretentious.

Are they "pretentious" to you while you are speaking French to them?

I don't speak French but I was with a cool homeboy who does. Parisians are very elitist. It's not even just about speaking French, it's about whether you speak it with the accent that they have. I have quite a few North African friends (Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians) who naturally grew up speaking French. Even they have problems in Paris. Quebecois folks from Canada also complain about Parisians.

They just aren't open-minded people. Even getting a job and moving up within companies is hard in Paris if your French accent isn't localized. It's crazy.
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#70
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Quote: (01-30-2012 10:36 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (01-30-2012 10:10 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Mofo, while some are ok, the vast majority of Frenchmen I have met piss me off no end. Everything from the high and mighty belief of superior culture to the condescending attitudes that seem ingrained in them. Everywhere from business to travel, I can count on one hand the number of Frenchmen I have time for. I dont know what it is, but for me as an Australian, its a culture clash of extreme proportions I think. They often behave in a way that is the polar opposite of what we find acceptable. So its a generalisation and needs to be taken as such, but one from an uncultured simpleton who thinks them snooty, pretentious, feminine weaklings.

Like I say, if ever the world wakes up to the blight that is the French and wishes to build a wall around the place and fill it with water, they know they can count on me to pitch up with my bucket so I can help them fill it [Image: smile.gif]

How is your French?

As good as your Russian?

Do you put them same effort into adapting and understanding French culture as you do too Russian culture?

Quote: (01-30-2012 08:47 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Many of the girls there don't speak English and they are very pretentious.

Are they "pretentious" to you while you are speaking French to them?

Dude I cant speak French. I have no doubt France would be much better if you could, but its one of the last languages I would bother with. I would learn Spanish before French simply because its more widely spoken. I never experienced much animosity outside Paris for a lack of French, that seems to be particularly common trait for Parisians though.

One thing I am incredibly tolerant of is foreign culture. I make all efforts to never impose or expect my values or customs to understood or practiced. Im very outspoken, but Im not critical generally, be it with their history, politics or social conventions. Im well travelled now and life is too short.

I found them pretentious when I spoke English to them, although I think a lot of it has to do with the accent and their mannerisms. I dont think there is any malice in it, I just believe its the way they are.

As a result, I say we bomb the place flat and start again [Image: smile.gif]

Look I can understand the appeal of the place, Paris as a city is a world city and the south of France is amazing. But for this Aussie, I prefer blunt honesty over subtle innuendo any day, and as a result simply cannot stand the people in general.
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#71
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Quote: (01-30-2012 10:59 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Quote: (01-30-2012 10:36 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (01-30-2012 10:10 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Mofo, while some are ok, the vast majority of Frenchmen I have met piss me off no end. Everything from the high and mighty belief of superior culture to the condescending attitudes that seem ingrained in them. Everywhere from business to travel, I can count on one hand the number of Frenchmen I have time for. I dont know what it is, but for me as an Australian, its a culture clash of extreme proportions I think. They often behave in a way that is the polar opposite of what we find acceptable. So its a generalisation and needs to be taken as such, but one from an uncultured simpleton who thinks them snooty, pretentious, feminine weaklings.

Like I say, if ever the world wakes up to the blight that is the French and wishes to build a wall around the place and fill it with water, they know they can count on me to pitch up with my bucket so I can help them fill it [Image: smile.gif]

How is your French?

As good as your Russian?

Do you put them same effort into adapting and understanding French culture as you do too Russian culture?

Quote: (01-30-2012 08:47 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Many of the girls there don't speak English and they are very pretentious.

Are they "pretentious" to you while you are speaking French to them?

I found them pretentious when I spoke English to them, although I think a lot of it has to do with the accent and their mannerisms. I dont think there is any malice in it, I just believe its the way they are.

Same here. I even met Parisians who spoke some English but they would refuse to speak it when I asked for help with directions or information. They really believe their culture is the center of the world. It's funny to me.

That said, I do like Paris and will go back someday. It's a beautiful city and it does have a swagger that I respect. The fashion game there is out of this world (both men and women). I've never seen women dressed as well as I have there. Every girl had a unique style and sense of fashion.

That's why I said if you actually get a French chick in Paris, you're in a good place. They are ultra feminine, stylish, and sexy.
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#72
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Quote: (01-30-2012 10:46 AM)Alfonzo Wrote:  

Interesting read here about French . I was with a anglophone girl this saturday and we talk about the difference in the 2 cultures and I always appear to be really rude to them in general . For my perspective I find anglophone people in general are to gentle and sensetive and that's annoy me a lot . I think like Harry said it's a clash of culture and to be accostum to or undersand the other culture you have to surpass your barrier . Anyways Like other here said Paris do not represent France and other francophone country . I have familly in Marseille and Aix-En-Provence and they are not like parisian at all . Someone have been there ? Maybe they can put some info form there it's a nice place .

Hahahaha, this is spot on I think.
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#73
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Again, I concur with Hooligan.

I experienced a horrible wakeup call when I first went to Paris to hang out with a few of my friends there for the weekend (when I lived in London). This was in 2000. It costed 20 pound return ticket from Victoria Station.

I was going there with great excitement. I had these gigantic lofty expectations of France. The reputation was up in the heavens. I heard so much rave reviews about the place that I HAD TO GO.

When I arrived there, I was thrown back by the rudeness. Again, as some have mentioned, Parisians are very different from the rest of France and this can often be the case for any MAJOR or CAPITAL city of any country.
For instance, I know London mans can be dickheads but if you go outside of London, cats become extra cool and very welcoming plus the lizards become extra easy.

I was ignored openly, my requests for information were blatantly disregarded and the body language was quite disgusting.

Even, the ultimate one, me and my friends (3 of us) went to eat in KFC for lunch. We ordered what we had to and went to sit down.
I chose a seat by the window because I was extra chuffed that I was in France especially Paris and I wanted to engorge myself in the visual delicacies that Paris had to offer.
The security guard in KFC came up and said something to my friend (who is fluent in French) in French.
"Come, bruv", he said. "We have to go".
I was confused.
"What's going on?", I asked. "Do they have to wash the windows? Is the seat broken?"
"Nah", my friend said. "We just have to go".

I leave it to you lot to figure out what was going down. Bear in mind, that whenever I roll, even casually, unless I am going to play sports, I always roll professionally. Nice shoes, nice trousers, I would even wear a tie if I could get away with it. I love looking preppy and nice.
No exception for Paris. And yet...

Some have told me that the South of France is different. Maybe it is.
But the French experience has soured me and it has never been recovered much.

With this in mind, I have decided to focus on my Spanish studies for four months or so and see how far I progress.

I met with a chicana after my meeting with a few Rooshians this weekend past.
She taught me Spanish for two hours. She never discouraged my butchering of the language and never made weird faces when I fcuked up a word. Her vibe was very nice, warm and welcoming which falls exactly in line with any Hispanic cat I have ever met. When one learns something, we need to have a positive experience affixed to that in order to remember the material.
I have bust my azz for the past three years in personal private study to acquire French but the snooty attitude that I often meet when I try to trudge along speaking it with native speakers is quite discouraging.
Life is hard enough without trying to acquire something from those who are not accomodating.

I will see how Spanish ensues. And if I acquire more in that time than I have, struggling with French, then my theory will be correct.

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#74
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Quote: (01-30-2012 08:47 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I'm talking about Paris, which is where I spent most of my time in France.

I'm talking about France too.

I've fucked at least a dozen girls from France in the past decade, with zero to very basic English on their part. Granted, this has not been in France but in many countries outside of France where they are ether working part-time as restaurant hostesses, vacation or just plain killing time.


wait a minute, I just remembered something. I even fucked a girl from France (forgot which city she was from) IN COLOMBIA!!! She spoke ZERO SPANISH, ZERO ENGLISH...100% French, and we were fucking within 6 hrs of meeting each other.


So, I got my answer. Never go to France, and stick to fucking girls from France in other countries.

Montreal, is a goldmine, wether there or anywhere else. Got it!!

very good intel to know HC.

Mixx
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#75
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@casanova chicago does indeed have a good polish population, but they don't always hang out together. theyre anywhere and everywhere. seems like the eastern european crowd likes to frequent the 'see and be seen' type places.

from my limited interaction with them here, i can tell you they are just like any other kinda girl youll find out and about, especially at bars/clubs. don't have any experience day gaming them. they are there to be had with night game though.
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