[xmlenigma]

- Even though everyone here is just wanting chicks for pussy, its fine to WANT what you want

- The only thing is you cant JUST marry someone without having MADE the RIGHT CHOICE

- You cant be sure of your CHOICE.. if you have no EXPERIENCE..

- You have to get EXPERIENCE.. by dating several girls over the course of your next few years in medical school.. DO NOT GET ATTACHED to ANY ONE GIRL

- Yes MEDICAL school does help GUYS get chicks.. But as with MULTIPLICATION .. ANYTHING x 0 = 0. If your doctor in PUA group was a zero, then... You are 24 and can easily amp up your DATING ABILITIES.. i.e. GAME.

Trust me.. you can.. I had a trollish indian roommate from a small village in traditional / orthodox 3rd world indian village without any game knowledge, just hanging & hearing my understanding of SOCIAL DYNAMICS and go from no girl to ONS a latina and had her as a GF.

If he can do it, anyone can do it. Maybe you need a friend/ buddy/ guide around you to help you get kickstarted..

Guys - I know guys like this who have ZERO game. They for some reason have real bad women skills / experience.

If at all this fellow is real..

I'd say get a GUIDE.. find a local player or PUA types or natural and spend time with him.. make him your mentor and have him work on YOU.. build your foundations.. Pay him or in buy him dinner/ drinks if needed.

This kind of scenario needs a bunch of HAND HOLDING.. I've done it for guys in such states.

[Spartan]

xmlenigma,

1. I have asperger's ( a mild form of autism)
Do you know anyone with this condition who got better at game? Its a nurological condition that limits social skills. Its exactly like telling a guy missing one leg if he ever got any good at running marathons. Sure, with a prosthetic leg and lots of training you can get decent...but you can't compete against people who have all their limbs intact.

2. I don't have any buddys to help me out and I'm in Eastern Europe
I don't know how to find a mentor. Game isn't popular here and guys that are good/naturals are spending their time banging girls..not helping me.

3. I don't have time to spend on game when I need to be doing med school

4. I have already decided that I have no choice but to get married in the next 6 months, if you really believe I have another option, I'd like to hear your opinion

5. Don't bother banning me or go ahead, all the same..I'm leaving quite soon on my trip and won't be accessing this forum anyways. If you want to, just delete this thread entirely....

[Spartan]

Why did you bump this thread, anyways XML guy? It deserved to die. How do you suggest meeting these natural players..I dunno about you, but I don't want to meet Ukrainian dudes. Polish dudes are little better. They are tough guys..with caustic and sarcastic retorts. I've yet to befriend any of them...and how would I? I have a tough time meeting new people in general, not just women. But thats OK..once I have a wife I'll have someone to talk to.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Spartan,
if you believe getting married is going to make your life better, you'd be in for a very rude awakening. Specially if you bring her to the US.
Make sure you read these topics:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9640.html

Specially this one:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-8984.html

All the best man.

[Spartan]

(02-27-2012 11:07 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Spartan,
if you believe getting married is going to make your life better, you'd be in for a very rude awakening. Specially if you bring her to the US.
Make sure you read these topics:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9640.html

Specially this one:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-8984.html

All the best man.

Jesus christ dude..why would I ever go back to the USA?
Its not like I've got friends there anyways.

My response to your 7 points:

------------------------------
1. You may regret it.

People change...doesn't mean you shouldn't get close to them. Its a risk as with anything.

2. It will kill your sex life and you can never experience romantic or sexual variety again, at least not ethically.

I have no sex life. I could find prostitutes, but that won't make me happy.

3. Marriage does not necessarily make you happier.

It can't be worse than what I have now..unlike you, I have no friends or fun. In college, I managed to carve out a small niche for myself in a small fraternity..but the real world is much harder. I don't have any wild adventures I'd be giving up.


4. Divorce rates are high and rising.

Perhaps..but I can squeeze a good 20 years out of a marriage. My father was an abusive alcoholic and gambler...but he managed to keep his wife for 2 decades. Lots of people stay married for long periods

5. A man could lose his property, assets and children in a divorce.

No, she can't take my money if I just leave to another country and work there. Especially if I move to a poor country like Thailand. I anticipate this and have no problem with leaving if I must.

6. Marriage is artificial and unnatural.

Not true. Humans evolved to pair bond..however, most humans would die by age 20-30 so there was never time for divorce. Who cares...worst case scenario I get a divorce..and no, she can't take my money (see above).

7. Marriage takes away your freedom.

I have freedom now..but living life alone is no fun. I have absolutely nothing to do today. I'm going to workout and go for a walk...I have no one to speak to.

[madcaptravels]

(01-27-2012 06:59 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Fuck, I don't think I can stand being alone for another 5 years (4yr MD, + at least 1 yr residency)
Could you imagine spending the next 5 years of your life alone?

I do have money...a shit more than guys in the FSU and still above average for Central Europe.
Plus, from what I've seen the guys there don't have much game either (esp. the poorer industrial areas).

jesus, man! you don't have to be married to 'not be alone'! get a girlfriend not a wife

[xmlenigma]

(02-27-2012 11:51 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

xmlenigma,

1. I have asperger's ( a mild form of autism)
Do you know anyone with this condition who got better at game? Its a nurological condition that limits social skills. Its exactly like telling a guy missing one leg if he ever got any good at running marathons. Sure, with a prosthetic leg and lots of training you can get decent...but you can't compete against people who have all their limbs intact.

2. I don't have any buddys to help me out and I'm in Eastern Europe
I don't know how to find a mentor. Game isn't popular here and guys that are good/naturals are spending their time banging girls..not helping me.

3. I don't have time to spend on game when I need to be doing med school

4. I have already decided that I have no choice but to get married in the next 6 months, if you really believe I have another option, I'd like to hear your opinion

5. Don't bother banning me or go ahead, all the same..I'm leaving quite soon on my trip and won't be accessing this forum anyways. If you want to, just delete this thread entirely....

1. You did not MENTION this upfront. Knowing your weaknesses is good. But I also know of a guy who climbed Mt. Everest with a single limb/ Artificial Limb. So, now its upto your WILL & MOTIVATION.

Let's say you wont get SUPER MAN GOOD at the GAME. Its fine. Let's not target this into making you Player no.1 in Central Europe.

But, never say never. You may have the potential to get better, become more social, become more attractive & so on. EVERYONE HAS some POTENTIAL to improve. You may not become TOM CRUISE.. but if you have the MCAT/ IQ that you do, then I am sure something can be done.

But 1st & most critical Question.. DO YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH? to BE MORE than what you THINK YOU ARE. ?

If the answer is YES, then there me a bit of journey and struggle but its not the end of the world.. but a new beginning.

Might I suggest to read this book for starters: Its not about the bike - Lance Armstrong.

2. If YES, then I will do my best to help you improve. Thats my promise.
I've helped many people BUILD a BETTER LIFE. We'll try to find you a local buddy as well.

But must importantly before you work on your GAME, you need to WORK on YOU. I'll help you do that, guide you. But you'll have to take steps.
You willing?

3. Fuck game. You have to create some time for YOURSELF! Create a stronger you! Do you want to feel more confident that you have in life?

4. CHOICE IS YOURS! .. There are options. If you think within 6 months you will find a FAITHFUL LOVING LIFE PARTNER.. Its possible, but NOT THE WAY YOU ARE RIGHTNOW! .. There's got to be some GROWTH & CHANGE.

5. Dont give up. If you've gotten into medical school despite your issues, you can get past whatever SYNDROME you have. Wanna bet?

(02-27-2012 09:27 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Why did you bump this thread, anyways XML guy? It deserved to die. How do you suggest meeting these natural players..I dunno about you, but I don't want to meet Ukrainian dudes. Polish dudes are little better. They are tough guys..with caustic and sarcastic retorts. I've yet to befriend any of them...and how would I? I have a tough time meeting new people in general, not just women. But thats OK..once I have a wife I'll have someone to talk to.

You did not mention your Aspergers. We have to work on you, at a more FOUNDATIONAL level. Personalized Life fundamentals/ foundation changing.

(02-28-2012 07:19 AM)madcaptravels Wrote:  

(01-27-2012 06:59 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Fuck, I don't think I can stand being alone for another 5 years (4yr MD, + at least 1 yr residency)
Could you imagine spending the next 5 years of your life alone?

I do have money...a shit more than guys in the FSU and still above average for Central Europe.
Plus, from what I've seen the guys there don't have much game either (esp. the poorer industrial areas).

jesus, man! you don't have to be married to 'not be alone'! get a girlfriend not a wife

We'll focus on YOU as a PERSON and rebuilding you. Kapeesh?

As I said, you can get / try with a few girl friends while in medical school. Also, no girl is going to want to marry you UNLESS she has selfish MOTIVATIONS to do so. Risky!

PS: PM me your info.. City/ Location etc. and I'll guide you on how to BUILD your FOUNDATIONS.
If social retard from a 3rd world village can do it, so can you.

[Amour Fou]

I think Spartan is just too narrow and difficult to have a discussion.

If all you really want is for us to say "go find a wife and be happy" here it is:

Go find a wife and be happy!

The thread lost purpose a while ago, as seemingly you don't need any sort of advice from us, you already know what you want and are set to it.

Why bother having this type of discussion with us?

And as to how long it might take you to find a wife... how the hell can we know? This is something that most of us here couldn't bother with.

We might say work on your game and you reply "I have mild autism and will never be good at it" so what is the point? You want us to feel sorry?

Go find a wife and be happy!

This thread should be closed.

[SVK]

Dude if you have Asperger's, then you have to start an a much more fundamental level. You said you don't really have any friends; try to work on that first. Try to work on basic social skills; how to connect with people, etc. Forget girls for now, completely, for a year at least. Getting married will NOT solve your problems, if anything it will only create more problems. School would be a good environment for that, no doubt. See a psychologist if you can, and/or join group therapy for people with similar condition. Get a pet if you really feel that lonely. Take things slowly

[worldwidetraveler]

This thread is so full of delusions...

You got a guy who doesn't have friends or girlfriends, who has Aspergers which makes socializing difficult in his own culture.

He thinks hell, I can't be alone anymore and I can't make friends, I can't get girls so I will go to another country, adapt to a new culture, find a wife and make it work for a century.

Then he comes to an international playboy site asking how to find a wife in 6 months.

Did I miss anything?

[Spartan]

(02-29-2012 01:17 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

This thread is so full of delusions...

He thinks hell, I can't be alone anymore and I can't make friends, I can't get girls so I will go to another country, adapt to a new culture, find a wife and make it work for a century.

My dad didn't have friends and he had 2 wives. I know of other guys who also have difficulty making friends but got married. In some countries providing for your family > social skills. That's why its much easier for me here. I use my strengths (good career, reliable/dependable, not a heavy drinker/partier) to my advantage by going to a place where these are in high demand.

(02-28-2012 11:48 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

We might say work on your game and you reply "I have mild autism and will never be good at it" so what is the point? You want us to feel sorry?

No. If I thought "whats the point" I wouldn't do anything. I know of guys like me..I had a roomate and he loved playing computer games but had no friends. I said, I'm going to a poker night tournament..want to come? We can hang out, have a few beers, meet some people. NO. He didn't want to do that...he said "I don't get along well with people." Another guy, I showed him my online dating profile and he kinda snickered. "Well, what about you, what are you trying to do to get girls?" He kinda got akward and mentioned how he's content studying history and reading books.

You see, I'm the guy who's got a serious deficiency..but still believes in himself. I was told I should quit college by a doctor. Not just any doctor, the head of the department at his hospital. He told me I had no chance of completing it and that I should sit at home and find a quiet, stress-free hobby instead. Guess what, I finished college.


At the same time, I'm not a fool who thinks anything is possible. For example, I'm bad at sports. I have poor coordination (its part of my deficiency). I used to be fat and wanted to lose weight. A lot of people suggested basketball, tennis, etc. I'm bad at these things..but I still wanted to meet my goal of losing weight. So, I stuck to weight lifting and hiking. I met my goal, but found a different way to get there.

Same thing, I want a girl. But, I'm bad at game..and I've tried to improve, with minimal results for my effort. So, what should I do? If I was limited and narrow minded, I would either give up, or keep trying to get good at game even though its not likely.

Smart and creative people can achieve their goals by more than one path.

People who think you have to be rich and super good looking to girls and discount the value of game are fools. People who think game is the only way to get girls are just as deluded.

I do work on game, at a very basic level. I focus on good posture, speaking clearly, having interesting conversation topics, etc.

But, my main focus is on travel. I want to go where non-game factors are more important.
I also want to know how to accentuate my non-game assets and how to best select a quality girl.I want to learn about travel logistics. And, I want to know more about basic techniques to escalate with these foreign girls and do well with them.

I need this information because I am working very hard at achieving my goals. I know I'm going to reach that goal, as long as I maintain effort and be creative in my approach.
As you can see, I'm far from having a "what's the point" attitude.

[chairman]

Here just go to this website and find a wife http://www.elenasmodels.com/

[Deluge]

Spartan, I can't believe your still sticking to your guns on this issue. You're resigning yourself to marriage because you're "Bad at game", which is the worst reason to get married I've ever heard. Marriage is not an exit from the "SMP". Having weak game is a reason NOT to get married, because it will only make your marriage more miserable and increase the chances of ending up sexless, divorced and on the rope for paying half your income in alimony for a couple decades.

[Spartan]

(03-01-2012 02:36 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Spartan, I can't believe your still sticking to your guns on this issue. You're resigning yourself to marriage because you're "Bad at game", which is the worst reason to get married I've ever heard. Marriage is not an exit from the "SMP". Having weak game is a reason NOT to get married, because it will only make your marriage more miserable and increase the chances of ending up sexless, divorced and on the rope for paying half your income in alimony for a couple decades.

Hmm..
1. aren't you 18 and in high school? have you been outside your country, have you ever faced a tough situation...or even been away from your parents for more than a week?

2. you should read more carefully. I don't live in "the West"..alimony doesn't apply and I can always move to yet another country.

3. You're writing from a Western perspective. Broaden your horizons.
I just spent time with my family in Eastern Europe yesterday and am learning a lot.

I'm gonna quote myself since you obviously post before reading-

(02-29-2012 04:52 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

(02-29-2012 01:17 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

This thread is so full of delusions...

He thinks hell, I can't be alone anymore and I can't make friends, I can't get girls so I will go to another country, adapt to a new culture, find a wife and make it work for a century.

My dad didn't have friends and he had 2 wives. I know of other guys who also have difficulty making friends but got married. In some countries providing for your family > social skills. That's why its much easier for me here. I use my strengths (good career, reliable/dependable, not a heavy drinker/partier) to my advantage by going to a place where these are in high demand.

(02-28-2012 11:48 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

We might say work on your game and you reply "I have mild autism and will never be good at it" so what is the point? You want us to feel sorry?

No. If I thought "whats the point" I wouldn't do anything. I know of guys like me..I had a roomate and he loved playing computer games but had no friends. I said, I'm going to a poker night tournament..want to come? We can hang out, have a few beers, meet some people. NO. He didn't want to do that...he said "I don't get along well with people." Another guy, I showed him my online dating profile and he kinda snickered. "Well, what about you, what are you trying to do to get girls?" He kinda got akward and mentioned how he's content studying history and reading books.

You see, I'm the guy who's got a serious deficiency..but still believes in himself. I was told I should quit college by a doctor. Not just any doctor, the head of the department at his hospital. He told me I had no chance of completing it and that I should sit at home and find a quiet, stress-free hobby instead. Guess what, I finished college.


At the same time, I'm not a fool who thinks anything is possible. For example, I'm bad at sports. I have poor coordination (its part of my deficiency). I used to be fat and wanted to lose weight. A lot of people suggested basketball, tennis, etc. I'm bad at these things..but I still wanted to meet my goal of losing weight. So, I stuck to weight lifting and hiking. I met my goal, but found a different way to get there.

Same thing, I want a girl. But, I'm bad at game..and I've tried to improve, with minimal results for my effort. So, what should I do? If I was limited and narrow minded, I would either give up, or keep trying to get good at game even though its not likely.

Smart and creative people can achieve their goals by more than one path.

People who think you have to be rich and super good looking to girls and discount the value of game are fools. People who think game is the only way to get girls are just as deluded.

I do work on game, at a very basic level. I focus on good posture, speaking clearly, having interesting conversation topics, etc.

But, my main focus is on travel. I want to go where non-game factors are more important.
I also want to know how to accentuate my non-game assets and how to best select a quality girl.I want to learn about travel logistics. And, I want to know more about basic techniques to escalate with these foreign girls and do well with them.

I need this information because I am working very hard at achieving my goals. I know I'm going to reach that goal, as long as I maintain effort and be creative in my approach.
As you can see, I'm far from having a "what's the point" attitude.

[The Fantasist]

(02-27-2012 11:51 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

xmlenigma,

1. I have asperger's ( a mild form of autism)
Do you know anyone with this condition who got better at game? Its a nurological condition that limits social skills. Its exactly like telling a guy missing one leg if he ever got any good at running marathons. Sure, with a prosthetic leg and lots of training you can get decent...but you can't compete against people who have all their limbs intact.

My cousin has Asperger's syndrome in a mild form. The guy has tighter game then anyone I have ever met,ever. He blows me out of the water constantly. His lack of social skills due to Asperger's makes him totally Alpha as he just says what he wants with no regard for the reaction of the people he is talking to. I have learnt a lot from observing him in action.

If you search for excuses as to why you can't get laid you will find plenty of them. I could use being bald or in my late thirties as a reason to not get good with women but I don't. I'm sure another could use lack of wealth or height. Just suck it up and get on with it.

[Spartan]

(03-04-2012 04:59 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(02-27-2012 11:51 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

xmlenigma,

1. I have asperger's ( a mild form of autism)
Do you know anyone with this condition who got better at game? Its a nurological condition that limits social skills. Its exactly like telling a guy missing one leg if he ever got any good at running marathons. Sure, with a prosthetic leg and lots of training you can get decent...but you can't compete against people who have all their limbs intact.

My cousin has Asperger's syndrome in a mild form. The guy has tighter game then anyone I have ever met,ever. He blows me out of the water constantly. His lack of social skills due to Asperger's makes him totally Alpha as he just says what he wants with no regard for the reaction of the people he is talking to. I have learnt a lot from observing him in action.

If you search for excuses as to why you can't get laid you will find plenty of them. I could use being bald or in my late thirties as a reason to not get good with women but I don't. I'm sure another could use lack of wealth or height. Just suck it up and get on with it.

Seriously? Wow, that's inspiring to hear. This is the first time I'm hearing of someone with Asperger's being successful at game. What stuff have you observed that makes him good at game?

I agree with the "charge in blindly" approach. I am using it now with more success, just going for it.

[WestCoast]

Amazingly I believe Spartan's story. My game was beyond omega weak when I started. 100 pounds, acne, broke, 0 stories. I was so pathetic I looked up mail order brides and almost paid for sex from a low end prostitute. My shit was so weak I had to drop xtac to talk to a Random GUY. Now life is a 180, 2-3 girls on rotation and no longer view a one night stand as good game.

Do not drop ur life for 7-14 months. Your logic is very male oriented "I can get straight A's easily so if I focus 100% on finding a wife I will find one" that logic is guaranteed failure, but I understand it bc I used to think like u. You want a,b,c wife here's the best I can give you.

A. Go take dance classes first alone, watch yourself I the mirror you'll see how god awful your body language is. My guess u'll walk in rub your hands, the throw them straight into ur pockets as u try to get as defensive as possible. Then when u partner up u wot be able to look the girl in the eyes and u'll quiver up. Welcome to step 1 of ur new life.

B. I'm a but crazy but video tape/watch urself at home in a mirror. Learn the body language f the INSTRUCTOR once ur body language is in par with him your confidence will go thru the roof.

C. Take said confidence go out and day game, if u run outta shit to say go take a cooking class. Food can bring people with nothing in common together.

Hope you take the jump, u won't regret it.

[The Fantasist]

(03-04-2012 05:49 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 04:59 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(02-27-2012 11:51 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

xmlenigma,

1. I have asperger's ( a mild form of autism)
Do you know anyone with this condition who got better at game? Its a nurological condition that limits social skills. Its exactly like telling a guy missing one leg if he ever got any good at running marathons. Sure, with a prosthetic leg and lots of training you can get decent...but you can't compete against people who have all their limbs intact.

My cousin has Asperger's syndrome in a mild form. The guy has tighter game then anyone I have ever met,ever. He blows me out of the water constantly. His lack of social skills due to Asperger's makes him totally Alpha as he just says what he wants with no regard for the reaction of the people he is talking to. I have learnt a lot from observing him in action.

If you search for excuses as to why you can't get laid you will find plenty of them. I could use being bald or in my late thirties as a reason to not get good with women but I don't. I'm sure another could use lack of wealth or height. Just suck it up and get on with it.

Seriously? Wow, that's inspiring to hear. This is the first time I'm hearing of someone with Asperger's being successful at game. What stuff have you observed that makes him good at game?

I agree with the "charge in blindly" approach. I am using it now with more success, just going for it.

Good question, a couple of examples:

His Aspergers for example means he does not use the facial signals most of us do. So for example if a girl tells him a story they find funny he still will not even smile,his face never changes. Just deadpan. This flusters people and often results in people qualifying themselves to him ( not just chicks but men too,I do too sometimes ). It's hard to explain without seeing it. Another thing is you will talk to him and half way through a story suddenly he will just start looking elsewhere as though he is bored of your company. It's so Alpha yet he is not trying to be so. Another side effect of his Aspergers is absolute bluntness regardless to who he is talking to. If he meets you and you have a nice girl with you he'll just say "I'd love to fuck your woman!". Again ultimate alpha behaviour ( he is a 6 foot 2 cage fighter so does not get into half as many fights as he would do were he built like a wimp ). I can't roll with him too much because I find it very hard talking to him and he's confrontational all the time which I don't like but I can still admire his skill set which his Aspergers has unintentionally given him.

[Spartan]

(03-04-2012 03:37 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Amazingly I believe Spartan's story. My game was beyond omega weak when I started. 100 pounds, acne, broke, 0 stories. I was so pathetic I looked up mail order brides and almost paid for sex from a low end prostitute. My shit was so weak I had to drop xtac to talk to a Random GUY. Now life is a 180, 2-3 girls on rotation and no longer view a one night stand as good game.

Do not drop ur life for 7-14 months. Your logic is very male oriented "I can get straight A's easily so if I focus 100% on finding a wife I will find one" that logic is guaranteed failure, but I understand it bc I used to think like u. You want a,b,c wife here's the best I can give you.

A. Go take dance classes first alone, watch yourself I the mirror you'll see how god awful your body language is. My guess u'll walk in rub your hands, the throw them straight into ur pockets as u try to get as defensive as possible. Then when u partner up u wot be able to look the girl in the eyes and u'll quiver up. Welcome to step 1 of ur new life.

B. I'm a but crazy but video tape/watch urself at home in a mirror. Learn the body language f the INSTRUCTOR once ur body language is in par with him your confidence will go thru the roof.

C. Take said confidence go out and day game, if u run outta shit to say go take a cooking class. Food can bring people with nothing in common together.

Hope you take the jump, u won't regret it.

Hey man, thanks for your advice. I really appreciate this stuff.

I will definitely sign up for dancing lessons when I'm in the Former Soviet Union this month..

I think I'll hold off on the marriage idea for now...If I do meet a quality girl, I might do it but I'm not worried if I don't find someone during my upcoming trip.

I'll definitely work on the body language and dancing...I tried it in the past and was the worst dancer in the class..but that just show how important it is to practice this stuff.

Thanks for the advice and motivation.

[WestCoast]

Cool dude, only part in your response I worry about is when you say "if I find a quality girl". That right there almost guarantees you'll be tricked into thinking u found a quality girl. But yeah you'll see massive ups and downs because it sounds like your position is similar to the drug addiction/drinks in my face/bitch shields I dealt with my first 2 years. Humiliation.

Think about the quality girl thing the day you wake up look in the mirror and without realizing it you say "wow I wouldn't change anything about my life". Then tell me you're looking.

My 2c on "dating" ony reason for a real relationship is if u want kids for sure. Otherwise there is no reason to ever commit. I don't want kids.

[SVK]

Vorkuta

That's quite interesting about the Asperger player, but it does make sense. As an Asperger you should be "natural" at aloof asshole game. Spartan, you should have stayed in USA, that is where this kind of game has the most success, ironically. However, you better have something going for you to back it up, a wimpy Aspie nerd is not going to get laid no matter how deadpan he is, but unnaturally aloof cage fighter - I can believe he gets more ass than a toilet seat. Once I've seen a video about this Asperger (or maybe even borderline autistic) surfer kid who got very good at it due to being able to focus on it so deeply. He also had super hot girlfriend despite his lack of normal social skills.

Spartan, you simple give too much of a fuck. You should turn your handicap into an advantage and roll with it. You will probably never be the smooth player that seduces girls with wit and charm, but you could be the aloof deadpan blunt asshole that simply doesn't give a flying fuck about what people think. I can see guy like that getting girls. It's probably not an easy road, but one to consider for your specific situation.

[jerome]

(01-27-2012 07:49 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

PERHAPS I NEED TO REFOCUS THE QUESTION:

Can I find someone in 7 months in the FSU?
Will 14 months improve the quality of the girl I can marry enough to warrant extra logistics hassle?

It seems like your looking for a shortcut, i.e. going to FSU to solve your dating issue with women.

As a man, to a man. Step up to the challenge. Why can't you meet a girl in Central Europe. Whats wrong there? If you can meet girls there, you will do better in FSU.

Its like guys who do online game versus daygame/nightgame. The guys who do online game always suck at meeting the best girls. When I mean the best. I mean smart, career wise, beautifull, and a great friend.

Sounds like your game is in question. I date girls in USA. I have to admit. It is fucking tuff. But I will not go to FSU to find a wife. Though Russian women are the best. I just know deep in my heart. That taking a short cut is bad. It sets up a bad outcome.

I think its okay, if you work on your game in Central Europe and And than go to FSU to find a wife. Than you will be able to find the right girl. Going there with limited dating experience will hurt you.

But if your game sucks in Central E. and than you go to FSU for 14 months. I think you will find the wrong girl.

Having good game allows you to spot the right girl.

I only date the top girls. ESPN reporters, Engineers, PHD in Chem. In the USA.

So Ive done well. These girls are hot, smart and not sluts or attention whores. Great social skills, can dance salsa.

J

[Amour Fou]

(03-06-2012 10:47 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

I think I'll hold off on the marriage idea for now...If I do meet a quality girl, I might do it but I'm not worried if I don't find someone during my upcoming trip.

[Deluge]

(03-04-2012 03:30 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 02:36 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Spartan, I can't believe your still sticking to your guns on this issue. You're resigning yourself to marriage because you're "Bad at game", which is the worst reason to get married I've ever heard. Marriage is not an exit from the "SMP". Having weak game is a reason NOT to get married, because it will only make your marriage more miserable and increase the chances of ending up sexless, divorced and on the rope for paying half your income in alimony for a couple decades.

Hmm..
1. aren't you 18 and in high school? have you been outside your country, have you ever faced a tough situation...or even been away from your parents for more than a week?

2. you should read more carefully. I don't live in "the West"..alimony doesn't apply and I can always move to yet another country.

1. Nope, 17. Yes high school. And for the record I've lived in a foreign country without my family before where I did not even speak the language and looked completely foreign to the people there. They would even take pictures of me on the streets.

2. Yes I know you don't live in the West. Doesn't Eastern Europe have alimony? And even if they don't, if you moved to the West and she divorced your ass you'd still have to pay it.

And I'm very glad our barrage of disgust has put you off marriage for the trip. But I'm still really worried about your mindset. Getting married isn't going to make you happy or solve your problems. If anything it will just make your life situation worse.

[LifeBeginsAt40]

Scary thread this. I look at this thread and I see myself 8 years ago, albeit I was 34 at the time and not 24 like the op. Sadly I was on a forum full of people convincing me it was the best thing I could do in my life as opposed to the realists here who will advise you of all the potential pitfalls. I hope the op has decided to throw away any foolish marriage ideas and wasn't just saying it to avoid people telling him of what a mistake it is.

I used pretty much the same reasons to justify going to Russia to find a wife as the op is doing and if I could go back in time to 8 years ago I would beat seven kinds of snot out of myself for even considering doing something as dumb as I did.

Although a lot of the people here do not speak from personal experience of being married to a Russki, they are pretty much spot on in what you can expect in the long run. I can speak from personal experience and it is not a pretty story.

Aside from the usual things of a Russki using you for a green card/citizenship then treating you like shit, you have a lot of other things you need to consider. Mine was all lovey dovey the first two years of our marriage. Then once she got her permanent residency the real her started to show. By the time she got citizenship sex was no longer part of the marriage and we didn’t even share a bed. I lived in a lot of denial for a long time in my marriage, believing her latter behaviour was only an aberration but the reality of it which I finally came to terms with was the first two years were the aberration.

For the op of this thread, if you think this is a one off, doesn’t happen often scenario you need to think again. I met 14 different Aussie/Russian couples. One of them is a rock solid marriage where you know the two of them will grow old together. Two of them are solid marriages but they have their ups and down. Five of them are going through stages of the slippery slide downhill I have just endured. Seven of them, myself included have ended in divorce/separation. Four of them the guy is an absolute mess now after the fuck jobs done on them. That’s 3 in 15 marriages I would consider solid from personal observations.

Again to the op, suppose you get lucky and find the one in five who is genuine. Your fun begins first in getting her to the US. The paperwork, visa, time, cost and all the other bullshit is extremely taxing. Once that is done and she is finally with you, aside from doing a whole load more paperwork and second stage of visa etc you have a woman who will be completely dependant on you and will occupy all your time.

You are a student with 5 years of medical school to go. Either your new bride or your studies will suffer. One will have to be sacrificed for the other. You try burning the candle at both ends both will suffer. Hope you have your own place and a decent income as well. Your new wife will not want to stay in a dorm room or with mummy and daddy. She will want her own place. She will need a new wardrobe and you can expect her to completely refurnish wherever you live. Trust me, at 24 and still studying the last thing you need is a wife, let alone a foreign one who will require a hell of a lot more attention than a local girl.

If you want some free pussy this isn’t the way. Ironically it will likely be the most expensive pussy you will ever have if you go ahead and get married. If you want to get a top notch qualification and set yourself up for life forget the whole marriage idea and follow the advice of the guys here and work on your game. Commitment in the form of a relationship is the last thing you need while studying. Don’t screw your life up mate. You mention America plus Doctor and the panties will fall off most women you meet in Russia. Go there, shag as many Russki’s as you can and leave it at that.

Also I can tell you from experience you need to live with a Russian woman for at least 3-4 years to see her true character. 7 or 14 months is a major mistake and a recipe for disaster. Been there, done that. Where you are in your life you do not need this aggravation.