[komatiite]

Cattle Rustler it seems like you are really moving up and doing well in the patch — great to see, I remember s couple years ago you were a keen poster on this thread just about ready to take the plunge. Really happy to see your progress in the industry dude.

What is a typical program in west Texas? Plug and perf I imagine, how much sand per stage? How many stages? All slickwater? Is it almost always the Wolfcamp formation?

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-26-2018 10:06 PM)komatiite Wrote:  

Cattle Rustler it seems like you are really moving up and doing well in the patch — great to see, I remember s couple years ago you were a keen poster on this thread just about ready to take the plunge. Really happy to see your progress in the industry dude.

What is a typical program in west Texas? Plug and perf I imagine, how much sand per stage? How many stages? All slickwater? Is it almost always the Wolfcamp formation?

I'm not in WTX, and I'd refuse to go that shit hole if sent there. Fucking US 285 has accidents all the time. I'm doing mostly STACK jobs with some Eagle Ford and SCOOP fracs sprinkled in the mix.

But yeah, PnP all around. Only had one ball and sleeve job. Usually it's around 50 stages per well and 500K sand with the occasional oddball that uses less. 80% Slicks with a rare gel job and only in STX have I seen folks use X-linkers. I'll add some detail via PM. It's not like the old days anymore where they want to experiment with resin coated stuff or ceramic sand...just slicks, 100m+30/50m sand, and horsepower.

Most of this stuff is basic forum stuff....have some work ethic and make a hand. Most guys who job hop from company to company for a dollar raise don't make it far up since they quit so soon as EO1. Stay somewhere, learn shit, go on EO 1 -> EO2 -> EO3 or Fluid Tech 1 -> 2 -> 3....and now you can jump elsewhere and not being a EO1 or basic floorhand.

@Germanico: Vente wey, if you come I can get you in where I'm at.

[echelon]

complete newb here so forgive my ignorance. but is there any way i can work the oil fields in the middle east and make decent money? i graduated high school but dropped out of college. im only 20, american, and i have zero experience in the oil industry. what would be the first steps to take to work the fields in the US or middle east?

[scotian]

(07-29-2018 03:30 AM)echelon Wrote:  

complete newb here so forgive my ignorance. but is there any way i can work the oil fields in the middle east and make decent money? i graduated high school but dropped out of college. im only 20, american, and i have zero experience in the oil industry. what would be the first steps to take to work the fields in the US or middle east?

As far as I know the only expat types working in the middle east are highly skilled and experienced guys with 10+ years on the tools or experienced engineers who work the lucrative middle east jobs. The entry level and hands on types (tradesmen, labourers, etc) are mostly South Asians and Filipinos who work for peanuts.

If you're a US citizen and want to get into oil and gas, get your ass to Texas and pay attention to what Cattle Rustler is writing here.

[Tresdus]

3 more exams to get my bachelor degree and then I'll have enough points to apply for PR to Canada. Counting the days till I can move back

(07-26-2018 03:57 PM)Mr_Assmaster Wrote:  

I've been monitoring this thread for several days now. The amount of useful data here is astonishing. However, it seems like almost everyone who worked there is from either Canada or the US.

Is it even possible to get a job there as EU citizen by applying to various job postings online? I'm assuming that if anyone pulled that off he must have had a trade or previous job experience in the field, but what if I'm simply a muscle without any skills and experience who's not qualified to be anything other than a roughneck? Also, what sites would you recommend?

Don't monitor the thread, actually read it. There's like a dozen guys that came from overseas.

[scotian]

Nice! So what’s your plan bro, back to Alberta?

[echelon]

do entry level jobs for offshore rigs pay a lot more than land? what would the general figures be?

[hedonist]

Meant to be a bunch of work coming up soon in Ontario in the nuclear area but unionized

[scotian]

(07-30-2018 07:15 PM)echelon Wrote:  

do entry level jobs for offshore rigs pay a lot more than land? what would the general figures be?

The only unskilled jobs that I know of on an offshore rig would be cleaners and kitchen staff and even they need to do the offshore survival training course which in Canada is about $2500 US, probably similar down there. You'd be better off getting experience on a drilling rig onshore before trying to get offshore.

(07-30-2018 09:27 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Meant to be a bunch of work coming up soon in Ontario in the nuclear area but unionized

Ya it's going on now, huge expansion at Darlington. I tried to get on but can't pass the security clearance, oh well, oil biz it is!

[Tresdus]

(07-29-2018 12:34 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Nice! So what’s your plan bro, back to Alberta?

Yeah man, definitely wanna go back to the same work, but this time do proper shutdowns and not in-town work.

[misogynist]

Get a good education and good references and making more than 6 figures in Canada is not a big deal. I basically don't get this thread. 6 figures isn't a LOT of money. (in the $1xx,xxx bracket).

[scotian]

^I don’t get the point of your post.

[NFallin]

@misogynist

Not everybody wants to work 8-6, 49 weeks a year selling widgets man. This thread has opened up a lot of freedom for a lot of people.

[Disco_Volante]

I'm at a schlumberger training facility, with about 500 other workers training in various product lines. Most are in their 20s and very few above even 35.

One of the old instructors let slip that 3 out of 4 quit within their first year. Fucking 3 out of 4, and they pay us generously while we're here. It's all 'expensed' which reduces SLB's taxable income so it's like a political payoff shell game while the grizzled veterans hold the line in the field. SLB made a huge push to get more women engineers so there's all this nice 22 yr old tail running around, many of whom have never held jobs yet supposedly will be running frac crews lol. They won't last in the field but it makes it fun here.

I know what I'm getting in to and how valuable 100k a year is, and how there is probably an imminent economic depression within 5 years (if we're not already in it) but these new kids just don't know or care.

I learned my lesson last crash but these young kids, all talking about buying new cars are going to get ass reamed in a couple years either through the next crash or simply quitting thinking they will find good employment elsewhere.

[pants]

Training facilities on houston?

Is it for a field engineer in Schlumberger? then you are in for a ride..

[rdvirus]

Fuck I'm outta shape. Tripping in 300 stands beat the fuck out of me... happy to be out here again though. Got a solid crew, fill in hand is going back to his rig so I'll be full time. Going to try not to blow my whole wad this time haha..

[Seadog]

(08-05-2018 09:49 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

I'm at a schlumberger training facility, with about 500 other workers training in various product lines. Most are in their 20s and very few above even 35.

One of the old instructors let slip that 3 out of 4 quit within their first year. Fucking 3 out of 4, and they pay us generously while we're here. It's all 'expensed' which reduces SLB's taxable income so it's like a political payoff shell game while the grizzled veterans hold the line in the field. SLB made a huge push to get more women engineers so there's all this nice 22 yr old tail running around, many of whom have never held jobs yet supposedly will be running frac crews lol. They won't last in the field but it makes it fun here.

I know what I'm getting in to and how valuable 100k a year is, and how there is probably an imminent economic depression within 5 years (if we're not already in it) but these new kids just don't know or care.

I learned my lesson last crash but these young kids, all talking about buying new cars are going to get ass reamed in a couple years either through the next crash or simply quitting thinking they will find good employment elsewhere.

Haha, I don't envy you. Having been through that exact center and several others I also had an idea of what I was getting into, and was thinking "how bad can it be?"

3/4 in the first year might be an exaggeration, but after 10 years, I can honestly say 90%(myself included) had moved on. Probably 2/3rd of them quit, 1/3rd let go, and the remaining handful have moved up. For field engineers it's sort of an up or out progression. Money is great, Guaranteed time off for something short of a wedding(edit-specifically yours) is a question mark, and the lady who hired me told me about getting a call in Boston when she was changing planes with her husband to cancel her XMas holiday because there was a job. So it isn't just the work and the hours, it's also the non-stop BS, last minute changes, and zero predictability.

Keep on living like a student, you won't have time to enjoy anything you buy anyways, you can literally set yourself up for life in 7-10 years, especially if you can moved overseas for a couple years. But literally they expect you to make the job priority #1 even ahead of family.

That said, some of my best friends were made in the company, it seems to attract a certain mindset and they even had a facebook like website called "brothers reunited" before facebook since it was accepted that invariably the majority would be gone, but want to stay in touch.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-29-2018 03:30 AM)echelon Wrote:  

complete newb here so forgive my ignorance. but is there any way i can work the oil fields in the middle east and make decent money? i graduated high school but dropped out of college. im only 20, american, and i have zero experience in the oil industry. what would be the first steps to take to work the fields in the US or middle east?

You can't work in the ME. The first steps have been described in the past 5 pages.

(07-30-2018 07:15 PM)echelon Wrote:  

do entry level jobs for offshore rigs pay a lot more than land? what would the general figures be?

Offshore is more dead than those Parkland HS kids. Actually inland wireline pays more than offshore from what I heard.

(08-05-2018 09:49 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

I'm at a schlumberger training facility, with about 500 other workers training in various product lines. Most are in their 20s and very few above even 35.

One of the old instructors let slip that 3 out of 4 quit within their first year. Fucking 3 out of 4, and they pay us generously while we're here. It's all 'expensed' which reduces SLB's taxable income so it's like a political payoff shell game while the grizzled veterans hold the line in the field. SLB made a huge push to get more women engineers so there's all this nice 22 yr old tail running around, many of whom have never held jobs yet supposedly will be running frac crews lol. They won't last in the field but it makes it fun here.

I know what I'm getting in to and how valuable 100k a year is, and how there is probably an imminent economic depression within 5 years (if we're not already in it) but these new kids just don't know or care.

I learned my lesson last crash but these young kids, all talking about buying new cars are going to get ass reamed in a couple years either through the next crash or simply quitting thinking they will find good employment elsewhere.

I doubt engineers will run frac crews or jobs, that what treaters are for. Not to mention engineers probably can't troubleshoot pumps or the line in case a hand needs guidance over the radio.

From what I heard, they leave because of pay or being tired of SlumberGAY's policies. Bigger companies are more about doing checklists than getting the job done, zero fucks given about customer service...all that matters is that you followed protocol. Homoburton's pump procedure takes 30 minutes to get all your pumps in gear, shouldn't take more than 5 minutes if you're not fighting pressure.

Even then, I joined my first crew almost exactly a year ago. Only one (out of 16) other guy is still with the company. Everyone else jumped ship because of pay, new rules/managers, and other crap. Calfrac is offer 22 an hour, compared to C&J's 16 or FTSI's 17.50. Personally, I prefer a bigger hourly rate (15 hrs @ $20) over HAL paying 18 hours at 16 because after 110 hours the gubbmint tax rapes you.

Let the first timers make bad decisions right now so they can say "Let me have on last boom, I promise not to piss it away this time" later on..... Those lifted Platinum Edition F-550s aren't gonna buy themselves son!

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[lakesideboss]

Hi guys
Kinda new on this site,I was on this forum before a few years ago but i was kind of a lurker and only made a few posts,I then forgot my password etc..but recently I rejoined as a new member, this is my background,I lived in grande prairie for 5 years working in construction and then had to return home due to family issues,but a couple of months ago I applied for Canadian permanent residency card and i will found out in September/October if i get it,if i do I'm heading back to Alberta,either fort mac or grande prairie,looking to get into the oil biz!!looking forward to giving input into this thread.

[Fillip]

Can someone please get info from camps and Americans up there on what an American needs to do to be able to working? Thanks.

[lakesideboss]

from what I hear its hard for a american to get into canada and vice versa for a canadian to work in america,is'nt their a oil boom in texas and north dakota,would you not try that first??

[komatiite]

Good luck with the Visa lakeside.
If you go to GP send me a PM and I can ask the guys I know there what’s poppin.

[Jet]

Try Texas:

[lakesideboss]

thanks komatiite,I might take you up on that offer,I'll post on the thread when i hear back on my permanet residency,I have a class one/cdl,so I'm ready to rock,take care

[lakesideboss]

winter season starting soon in Canada,what's everybody plans??any new guys gonna tackle the patch??or is it all veterans??